Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

+75 yes plz

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Originally Posted by jeffanddane

I guess the only way to find out if they could fully benefit from the job is give them a random job take them to abyssea at lvl 30 then have them go do something that job could normally do that isn't insanely hard but isn't insanely easy either, also have another person lvl a job the normal way and see what happens. . . . i bet you anything the person who lvled normally whether they lvled solo or by party based would succeed in 90% of the things required of that job.

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Umm dude, it really depends on the person. Also Way to use opinionated percentages.

I've known countless people who have abyssea burned jobs and are ten times better than other people I know that have leveled the "old way."

Its all about how much effort the person wants to put into the job. Not how they gained exp.

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Originally Posted by jeffanddane

I guess the only way to find out if they could fully benefit from the job is give them a random job take them to abyssea at lvl 30 then have them go do something that job could normally do that isn't insanely hard but isn't insanely easy either, also have another person lvl a job the normal way and see what happens. . . . i bet you anything the person who lvled normally whether they lvled solo or by party based would succeed in 90% of the things required of that job.

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You clearly don't realize just how retarded people can be. Whether or not someone succeeds is entirely based on whether or not the person is retarded or not.

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Although it is true you learn way more advanced skill end game most of the chizzling and seasoning is done through your lower lvl partying.

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No. All you learn is how to act during a lower level party.

Prior to mid January, I had never leveled a melee job past SJ levels. I leeched Nin from 49-90. I also PL'd myself on ninja (along with other linkshell members) while dualboxing a whm and didn't bother tanking to get to 49 (prior to abyssea). So prior to mid January, I had no experience tanking mobs.

A couple weeks ago I dual boxed Yaanei Nin+Whm with little to no trouble. Where did I learn the skills to succeed at this? Dual boxing seals and other shit at 90.

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Granted, yaanei isn't the most difficult mob in the game, but that's the most recent example that I could think of.

Obviously players should have to go back and play like the "good olde days"; I don't mean that players should go back to the colibri parties etc... we should go beyond that! Let them experience the true hell of leveling to 75 in Moon/Krt when it took a lot more exp to get to 75 than it does now and you did so at 5k/hr at best. Oh the joys of the game before the addition of worthwhile gear and acc food. What fun is was to fight the same weapon type mob for over a minute.

I would hope it's obvious but I have my doubts on the merits of some of the posters here to pick up on sarcasm. I highly doubt most of them had the "true" FFXI experience as they call it. Maybe that experience has made me one of the "elite" they like to categorize us as, however, I feel that it honestly doesn't make a difference. I have a strong suspicion that the same people here arguing for the cap to be 70-75 are the same people who can't even figure out the most basic of game concepts of haste gear, stp gear, gear swaps, etc. I also have a suspicion that the people for this are also the same group of people I see taking 18 people to mobs like Shen and dying horribly.

Isn't making baseless stereotypes fun? You can claim you need to grind to develop "true skill" all you want, but it won't make it anymore true; much like your choices to tp in str gear wont let that be superior to tping in haste.

in a way i agree. almost every zone in the game that is not abyssea sits empty and unused it would be nice to see them have purpose again.

Can one of you idiots give me one plausible reason why you should have the right to force your obsolete way of leveling on us. In the end we have no right to ask you to leech your jobs and your free to level your way.

Once again, if your so tired of seeing old zones empty. Then fill them yourselves; people sometimes like to cool-down from abyssea; or want to conserve stones or just want nostalgia.

Do it your damn selves before forcing it on the rest of the population

This thread got civil or is it still a stupid argument?

lol i do fill the zone myself i often walk around in those empty zones. how do think that i know they are empty lmao.

They should just raise the minimum level to 90 and make it cost 500K gil to enter..

I'm tired of all those underperforming jobs lower than 90 leeching exp off all us hardworking max level people.

It's not right and we need to take a stand !!1!!one