[dev1000] Dynamis Reborn!

No miera.. they haven't made any changes to dynamis yet.. at all

They made this thread to discuss possible changes to it.

Other people took the opportunity to spread misinformation throwing out fake numbers for the cost of currency and such.


I wouldn't mind seeing dynamis made into a regular open zone.. sort of like abyssea w/o cruor buffs and atmas.

The mobs would all respawn super fast.. and wouldn't be crazy 50/60 monster links.

Then people could go in and farm AF gear and currency with their limited time allotted each day.

Could also make attestation NM's and zone bosses force pop... maybe a key item system similar to abyssea force pop NM's

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Originally Posted by Miera

Sooo, let me get this straight. Dynamis is no longer a reserved type In-game event anyone and anyone can just walk up in it, steal mobs and MPK players? I can see people shouting to sell certain hard to get relic armor such as THF hands and RDM head and body, ect and big bills.

If this is true then I sure hope they fix it. I'm not looking forward to having some douche-bag LS come join and ruin everything like those turds do in Walk of Echos.

I think Dyna should have servers of their own. It sucks waiting for people to finish their event, I don't think we should wait. There should be reserved servers for events like Dyna. Just my opinion.

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On that, i totally agree with you Miera.

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Originally Posted by Ilax

On that, i totally agree with you Miera.

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keep spreading your misinformation ilax >_>

Oh thank god, I was reading the first post and mistook it as it actually happening. I'm tired.. <_<

Yah.. I'm hoping others will start offering suggestions other than me...

I think a dynamis update has the potential to be great.

Biggest suggestion i have is *not walk of echoes style* lol

If it was similar to abyssea.. just an open zone with regular clusters of mobs that despawn if you die.. i wouldn't forsee mpk being a huge problem.

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Originally Posted by Miera

Oh thank god, I was reading the first post and mistook it as it actually happening. I'm tired.. <_<

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Don't worry Miera you did not read wrong, SE been talking about 'no reservation' which in my opinion mean anyone can come in your event and do what they wan. If it would be anything else, that long time a DEV would have come and say we wrong about it.... Those people here just trying to make a show and they love to point me saying how i am wrong when i just state the true fact of what SE announced.

No reservations won't ruin the update...

why don't you try being constructive and come up with solutions to problems..

instead of just complaining

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Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin

We get it ilax.. you don't want an update ...

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I wan the update if the clause 'no reservation' be lift* off. Keep going on beating a dead beef, is very smart ... of you.

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Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin

I'm only suggesting instead of arguing in this thread.. you start offering suggestions to make the dynamis update better...

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I already did but you just love to ignore it....

Hey guess what you converted me, i wan the update now... ( Are you going to .... now? )

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Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin

No reservations won't ruin the update...

why don't you try being constructive and come up with solutions to problems..

instead of just complaining

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It wont ruin it, i agree, i am converted now. Are you done?

Your suggestion of instancing isn't possible ilax.. not sure how many times i have to remind you of that...

the only viable option then would be an open zone..

why don't you try offering suggestions to alleviate the open zone concerns?

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Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin

Your suggestion of instancing isn't possible ilax.. not sure how many times i have to remind you of that...

the only viable option then would be an open zone..

why don't you try offering suggestions to alleviate the open zone concerns?

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Why you continue, already told you about how you converted me.

YES PLEASE let this update happen. ( Still not happy, what is your problem? )

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Originally Posted by Ilax

Why you continue, already told you about how you converted me.

YES PLEASE let this update happen. ( Still not happy, what is your problem? )

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Because you're not, you're still just flaming the opposision.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

Because you're not, you're still just flaming the opposision.

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Omg no.... I can make gil out of this after the update (Atm i can't because i am limited with 1 relic inmy ls) , is POSITIVE for me, why you keep fight? No matter what i end to say, you won't be happy....

Make your ..... ........ mind. I am not anymore again the update, how many time i will need to say? Now what, you going to fight again me how negative this update gonna be?

Idc if you are for or against the update...

I just think its more productive to

*Determine possible problems with the update

*and*

*offer solutions


Complaining helps nobody

I clear deffinition of what the update will intale would help. lol

I think its gonna be all teddy bears and rainbows

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Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin

...and rainbows

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Do you realy want to fight Carbuncle again? >.>

Since i got converted, i will point the positive in this update:

I can do another relic.
I can do dynamis 7/7 ( i always been hardcore player, that for sure don't scare me, not at all...)
I can sell AFv2 for gil since my crew do not need that.
I can sell the new drop from new NM.
I will be part of the monopolization of the zone, sorry for other, i refuse to talk about this anymore.
I got my relic for only 34m wile other will have to pay 186m, thanks you to make me feel even more special.

Is there anything else i forget?

Oh yes, almost forget the fact that most of us have multiple mule and multiple account, TY for giving us more opening to exploit the new dynamis V2.

And in the end, just you know i am one of the nicest linkshell leader, so imagine other LS that have no respect. (i don't need to name them) Of course i might sound like a full a$s hol$ in all this, but i start to just think 'injustice' is only what people are really looking for. Once again, thanks for converting me, and i am serious... Let this update happen and ill show you how will rock the system.

None of those are suggestions to the dev team

but its progress.. you are halfway there

Those seem like the identify problem part of an update..

now try your hand at coming up with solutions

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Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin

None of those are suggestions to the dev team

but its progress.. you are halfway there

Those seem like the identify problem part of an update..

now try your hand at coming up with solutions

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Oh because you do better here.... Why i would talk about problem or suggestion? Everything as i stated is perfect, not perfect for you? Why that should be my problem.

Also, i pay to play, i am not paid to tell them how to do they job, and as i state now, update is perfect for me. End of story.

I'll try to come up with a few solutions to those problems.. but it might make you feel like you had input if you offered some as well

lets see

hmmm

As for making another relic

*SE could adjust the drop rate so that currency doesn't become too common or rare

I can do dynamis 7/7 ( i always been hardcore player, that for sure don't scare me, not at all...)

*SE could implement a time limit to dynamis each day...

I can sell AFv2 for gil since my crew do not need that.

*Of course you can sell any gear in the game for gil.. however.. the drop rates and accessbility to mobs that drop armor could be adjusted to where people wouldn't be able to abuse this.

I can sell the new drop from new NM.

*I'm not sure they plan to add new NM's.. just adjust the zone and leave the same drops in them.. ie make it easier to farm for smaller groups.

I will be part of the monopolization of the zone, sorry for other, i refuse to talk about this anymore.

*Monopolization can be addressed much the same way abyssea addressed monopolization.. make mobs plentiful and respawn quickly

I got my relic for only 34m wile other will have to pay 186m, thanks you to make me feel even more special.

*The drop rate of currency can be adjusted so that currency won't become to common or rare. I'm still not sure how you are coming up with these fake numbers for post update lol.

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Originally Posted by Ilax

Also, i pay to play, i am not paid to tell them how to do they job, and as i state now, update is perfect for me. End of story.

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Well if you aren't here to be helpful.. why are you here?

This update is awesome, i can't wait to see it happen.

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Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin

Well if you aren't here to be helpful.. why are you here?

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To give my opinion, give idea and so on, apparently some can't accept other opinion. So over that don't ask me to do more.

Not here to offer a solution about how you\ can be lazy in the game and get everything you wan if that can answer better your question.

多芸は無芸 [Too Many Accomplishments Make No Accomplishments]

Well thank you for your opinion..

maybe you can stop monopolizing the thread now and let others make suggestions for the update?

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Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin

Well thank you for your opinion..

maybe you can stop monopolizing the thread now and let others make suggestions for the update?

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If you can stop pointing my name in all your suggestion of course, i rather read then feel i have to defend myself in all post you make...

Ok i really didnt read all the posts here, but when i first saw this i was all against it and i read some pages and everyone has good points to this, untill i actually looked at the dev post its self, and i see its pros and cons to this idea that SE is going to do.

Dyna is easy now with our lvl cap at 90, but the only thing i see thats being made easy with this update is the accessabilty to Dyna, cool, no more hour glass, no more 3 day wait, but now there will be competition for claims in dyna with the •Monster claim and item drops will work the same way as in regular fields and dungeons.
So pretty much, your pt, your monster, your drops, no one outside your group can lot, now dyna is gonna be treated like abyssea in that area, especially with the ceratin pops for for certain NMs deal, they should treat this part like salvage cells, you cant enter dyna if you have NM pops, or make them ex, or rar/ex, this can avoid price gouging for whoever has plans on selling these items for profit, but still treat them like salvage cells if they go ex or rar/ex, SE has to keep its rep for making things difficult, lol. If SE keeps to certain rules for dyna, like the once a run NM shot, what i mean by this, if you want a test or fragment from a NM and it fails to drop or you fail to kill, you have to wait the time to re-enter dyna and try again, but heres where some ppl see that the non reservation can be bad, unless SE says, ok group A, you killed your NM, group B can pop and kill, but group A has to wait 1 day to fight again, and cant claim the NM, even if group B wipes, but, can someone from group A join group B and lot treasure? who knows, if this happens, it kills the rule, and allot of players will exploit that, SE will have to do something to restrict player A to join party B and lot on drops. or will SE treat the non hourglass deal like WoE?, check the trail marks > you get a message that says group A is battling and this much time is left zone, NMs have been killed and group B cant pop because the zone is being cleared out by group A, so now group B must wait till they exit and they go in and start their slaughter, that can make some sense. But if both groups go in at the same time, let the competition begin, and may the best group win.

Now the relic weapon part that allot of ppl are talkimg about, that its gonna be easier to get one, i kinda disagree, sure it could take less time, or maybe not, Im a relic owner and i can agree with all the others relics out there that this part is a slap to the face if getting a relic just got easy, but since they are gonna lower the amount of currency obtained, this part is vauge, (thats SE for ya) do they mean there will be a cap to how much currency you get per run? or will the drop rates be lowered, either way, thats a difficulty factor added to getting a relic, so we could see currecny prices going up, and may never see more than 2 or 3 100s drop in a run, and we all know that this part of the relic quest is the most difficult, you can have all the items put away, but the gathering of currency is the hard part.

I guess SE still wants to honor the challenge that Dyna gave us back at 75 or maybe make it harder, they have the power to do so, either way, Dyna is fun, i've always enjoyed it, with this update I'll give it a chance, but i truly hope SE sticks to its views on relic weapons, and if most of you remember in a past interview, the dev team said that not everyone will have a relic, i think it was in the ffxiclopedia forums, when they talked about lowering the price of hourglasses, the dev team said that relic weapons is not for everyone but it will get easier, im sure SE still has that in mind with this new update.
/em fingers crossed

Also NM holding that you forget, some might do it on purpose, some might just not be skilled too kill fast enough. To issue that they would need to do something like AV, if NM still alive after 5~10 min, then the NM depop so next group have a chance to pop too. (Assuming they can't do multiple ??? as is the case in abyssea)

I think after a week or two the novelty of new dynamis will wear off and it will go back to being mostly ignored.

However i still think your idea of once a day/run NM limit would help alleviate some concerns with NM monopolization

I'm not sure how they would implement it tho

I certainly hope its nothing like walk of echoes.

Maybe something similar to the fov elite regimes.. where you have to be in the party when the NM is spawned to help fight the NM... and you can't join halfway.

That way the KI you received when you entered that dynamis run would be consumed and they could track whether or not you have killed the zone boss that day.

why do i get the feeling im gonna start seeing shouts like "dynamis lord (do you need it?) treasure (cast lots) X" -_- maybe if the zones were instanced it wouldnt be so bad but im gonna be guessing this nm is gonna be super camped. by people who eather will use others hard work for their own gain or people that dont need the drops but will camp it only to over charge people in the area tons of gil to buy their drops from it. i hope t doesnt come to that but i have a feeling that it will.

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Originally Posted by Valaris

why do i get the feeling im gonna start seeing shouts like "dynamis lord (do you need it?) treasure (cast lots) X" -_- maybe if the zones were instanced it wouldnt be so bad but im gonna be guessing this nm is gonna be super camped. by people who eather will use others hard work for their own gain or people that dont need the drops but will camp it only to over charge people in the area tons of gil to buy their drops from it. i hope t doesnt come to that but i have a feeling that it will.

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I don't think it will be too bad... they just need some sort of way to limit the amount of times a person can fight dynamis lord each day.

I'm thinking something like fov elite regimes... you have to be in the party when the NM is spawned to help with the fight or cure people.. and you lose your KI after its spawned.

That way each person can't take turns popping dynamis lord.. and you can't have people spawn the NM then invite others to the party.

Lets not ruin our chances of anything being done here.. stop complaining and let them fix
this thing.

If kids keep this up the dev's will be like "ya know what.. lets not do this.. instead check
out my FB page!" and then.. nothing will ever change.. -.-

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Originally Posted by Auriga

Lets not ruin our chances of anything being done here.. stop complaining and let them fix
this thing.

If kids keep this up the dev's will be like "ya know what.. lets not do this.. instead check
out my FB page!" and then.. nothing will ever change.. -.-

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I don't think the back and forth is necessarily bad...

identify concern >> come up with possible solution .... seems reasonable

The people that bother me are the ones that come in making up fake numbers like

OMG this update will make relics cost 186 million gil.. or other such nonsense

Personally my main worry is more about those ignorant player that come here and say that everything i am saying is wrong. [of course they use 100% speculation again me when i elaborate my worry with info that SE released and 6yr knowledge i have from dynamis]

No matter what, i told him already that i don't care anymore, i kinda find this update perfect for me since i can benefit more then anyone with my group, so let take avantage of it instead complain.

Anyway, we all know this guy don't give a shit about the subject, and he is only posting to cause trouble. Just an example of it, can see how he care with this:

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Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin

I think after a week or two the novelty of new dynamis will wear off and it will go back to being mostly ignored.

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But ya, anyone feel free to express your opinion/worry, just be ready to face that guy, because no matter what you will end to say, he will jump on your opinion because he such of GOD... he know everything, and we are all dumb knowing nothing, he probably have only 1hours dynamis experience, but he is the Chuck Norris of dynamis, he learned fast and know what is right and wrong. So please listen to that guy.

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Originally Posted by Ilax

Personally my main worry is more about those ignorant player that come here and say that everything i am saying is wrong. [of course they use 100% speculation again me when i elaborate my worry with info that SE released and 6yr knowledge i have from dynamis]

No matter what, i told him already that i don't care anymore, i kinda find this update perfect for me since i can benefit more then anyone with my group, so let take avantage of it instead complain.

Anyway, we all know this guy don't give a shit about the subject, and he is only posting to cause trouble. Just an example of it, can see how he care with this:



But ya, anyone feel free to express your opinion/worry, just be ready to face that guy, because no matter what you will end to say, he will jump on your opinion because he such of GOD... he know everything, and we are all dumb knowing nothing, he probably have only 1hours dynamis experience, but he is the Chuck Norris of dynamis, he learned fast and know what is right and wrong. So please listen to that guy.

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I think i missed the part where you added something constructive to the discussion >_>

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Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin

I think i missed the part where you added something constructive to the discussion >_>

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See what i mean guys, i am not joking lol Listen to that guy =) He is so perfect, even Chock Norris would probably have no match.

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Originally Posted by Ilax

See what i mean guys, i am not joking lol Listen to that guy =) He is so perfect, even Chock Norris would probably have no match.

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My perfection isn't the topic of discussion.. lets stay on topic .. kthx ;o

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Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin

My perfection isn't the topic of discussion.. lets stay on topic .. kthx ;o

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i will burn a candle tonight for you.

Open zone. Good.
Augments to existing gear. Bad.

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Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin

My perfection isn't the topic of discussion.. lets stay on topic .. kthx ;o

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The topic hammer, snap.