Can we have an update on the situation.

now if they did something like that via the player. for the current sistuation

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don´t tell raist to relax, he is the one updating us all with news about situation in japan, its simple: follow the news and you´ll see when japan has an intact energy (sorry, bad english but i´m german), than se will be up immediately, till than wait . dot.
breau, alexander/bastok

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You don't tell me what to do Breau, and i'll tell Raist to relax if i want to :)
He seemed to be getting a little ruffled back there and I'd hate to see him lose his cool demeanor.

And Raist is perfectly capable of defending himself. So no need to jump to his defense just cause someone tells him to relax. And our little back and forth had absolutely nothing to do with updates from japan - it had to do with where forums were operated from and the relevance of that to our discussion, so your point is moot.

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now if they did something like that via the player. for the current sistuation

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go back and reread the notice that was quoted. Section II is all about methods for th players to donate through services.

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Originally planned for 7 hours, water pumping operation at Fukushima reactors ends after 13 hours

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SDF began 1st water spraying at No4 reactor of Fukushima No1 N-plant this morning; plans to use 10 vehicles today, spray 80-90 tons of water

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more reports of engineering teams getting more roads rebuilt so aid is able to reach more people, but there is still concern over fuel supplies, gas may run low again

In general though, the atmosphere is more relaxed

Two posts in a row without Raisting? Forshame.

Raist

Well it may sound heartless, but I have to now agree with everyone else.. Yes it is tradgic what has happened over in Japan, but life.. as they say. has to go on.

Now I understand if FFXI can't come on due to power problems, last thing I want, as I am sure you will all agree, is just during a massive quest, your just about to do the final blow.. then the servers cut off due to power loss. lol, it is bad enough when you get D/C'd from your end.

We do now need to stop the whole bickkering about how people need to get a life (now I know I done it.. lol just last night actually, but I was in a foul mood anyway)

I am not really concerened about my "Campaign Medal" I can easily get that back, the thing I am worried about, is are the prices gunna get increased on the Auction House, due to being empty, some people may think.. hey.. there are no stacks of earth crystals here, I know.. I will try my luck by selling my stack for 5k ^.^

Thats just an example, but I predict it happening.

I do hope, though that the servers come on within the next week.

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You know its sad to see people are more concerned with a Video game than the actual well being of all The Japanese people. I mean seriously guys, you all don't think about it because we aren't over there feeling the impact first hand. All of you should be wondering if they are ok and all the help they could use. People have lost literally every possession they had to their name and all you care about is whether you will have more abyssea stones, if your chocobos will be ok, Campaign medals and many other trivial things. Come on guys there is more to life than FFXI try to think about that next time ok?

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I am not one to rant over most things but this, well this is really sad. Maybe you overlooked post's like this one:

Temporary Suspension of the Services Due to an Earthquake

An important announcement regarding the suspension of game service has been posted on the Information section. Please click the link below to view the official announcement.

Temporary Suspension of the Services Due to an Earthquake

Please be advised that we will continue to operate the official websites, forums, and the SQUARE ENIX Support Center to be able provide our customers with updates on the current situation.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, and thank you for your understanding of this unusual situations.

"Gravionblack, Odin server, i want to say SE that this was the right thing to do i believe. I have friends that I got to hear from yesterday so i know they are safe, but i did not get to hear from all that live in Japan. So i would just like to say i hope all goes well and please stay safe. Gives my best wish's to each and everyone's family."

Or maybe it was one of these you didnt see?

"Quote Originally Posted by Silentlucidity View Post
I do hope Japan, and the rest of the world for that matter, doesn't get the wrong idea of Americans because of a vocal minority. We will collectively do what we can in support of Japan.

SE has already stated we won't be charged for April. So please consider making a donation instead. U.S. players like myself can donate $10 by texting REDCROSS to 90999. More info and other ways to donate at RedCross.org.

My prayers go out to everyone affected or know someone who was affected by this disaster. Even outsiders like myself know how strong Japan is as a nation, and we wish you all a fast recovery."

"Thank you very much fro posting this, i sent my april fee to the redcross."

I still have friends that live in japan that i have not heard from, and yet you think all we do is care about a video game? The japanese people have already started moving on with their lives, trying to start over, i think the time for us to keep saying we're sorry for what happened a million times is over, don't you agree? I think i would rather move on instead or reminding them all what happened six days ago.

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more reports of engineering teams getting more roads rebuilt so aid is able to reach more people, but there is still concern over fuel supplies, gas may run low again

In general though, the atmosphere is more relaxed

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It is really nice to see that thing are started to get some what better at least, thank you for all the updates Raist.

more tweets from the JP press pool

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Spent fuel pool at Reac5 stabilized 37.1oC, Reac6 similar/ Confirmed 19,000dead PolicAgencyNHK

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M5.2 quake struck Iwate-ken about 3 mins ago (1010 JST).

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We are getting so used to "aftershocks" now. Quakes are becoming a regular feature of life.

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Wow that is sad to hear so many lives have been lost, well thank you again Raist.

Ty for all the info Raist, I shall share a Ginger cookie with you ^^

yeah Raist thanks for the information keep us updated im going thru massive ff withdrawls here lol

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yeah Raist thanks for the information keep us updated im going thru massive ff withdrawls here lol

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I also Apprechiate the information Raist. I think im having the same withdrawl effects. lol Just hange in their a little bit longer. lol

Looks like something went down while I was /away the last hour or so:

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NISA confirms it has been required to open SRV (Safety Release Valve) on unit 3 to release pressure; will pause plans on firefighting

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(info came from TBS) reminder : opening those valves has been common practice since day 1; better not, but no "end of the world" either...

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TEPCO to open vent on plutonium reac #3, never done before. Highest rad to go into air. NHK

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Plans to start again continuous dousing this afternoon (from 18h) pending on evaluation of new situation (release valve opened at unit 3)

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We repported earlier that option 1 to release pressure was "supression pool" within reactor building; Tokyo U prof says it may be full

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Just checked out BWR details on supression pool; it's normal it fills up as long as ECCS operation isn't restored; need electricity for it

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(guess this is why they are so determined to get power to the pumps)

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ECCS is Emergency Core Cooling System, and uses water from supression pool to spray/fill the core; H2O gets back to the pool as steam

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NHK: Release of gas from reactor #3 without going through supression chamber may increase radiation in area temporarily by 10X or so

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TEPCO to release steam again to relieve rising pressure in No.3 reactor vessel; work to restore electricity, spray water to be suspended.

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Think I'm just gonna watch the TokyoPost feed from now on... too much chatter about Libya everywhere, their twitter feed seems to still be more focused on JP.

Raist

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Cem started a "petition" of sorts to try to get some info from SE. Everyone needs to hop over there and /sign it. Maybe it will work.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ll=1#post33153

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Dude...you understand that they are giving us information, right?
You're either a troll or lacking brain-power.
Hopefully, the first.

you obviously haven't been on the forums long... might want to read the entire thread sometime. But, welcome to the party.

In my experience with any game on any forum, petitions are very pointless and never matter. You all can sign a petition to change the game mechanics, and even with 100 percent player base agreeing to it, they dont have to listen to a single thing, and almost 100 percent of the time, in my experiences, petition threads are just fail in the long run.

but you are far more likely to get results from a more organized, civalized, serious presentation of 100-200 on-topic posts versus a 1200 post flamefest that skews off-topic regularly.

So raist did they get some power restored to some reactor's as u previously stated or did that all change?

what server u from raist?

they were looking to have pumps in 1 & 2 up today--one was damaged and needed repairs.. forget which one. I've been bouncing around so much.. I forget the exact details. 5 and 6 pumps are going and they've cooled to tolerable levels. Radiation readings near the site has had 800 point drops in some locations, but they are still too high--they can't even spend much time in the main operations building just yet.. Those Fukushima 50 teams are simply amazing.

Raist

These numbers look a bit better then the one I got form the Police Agency earlier, but still...

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14.54 Reuters has supplied an update of the disaster in figures:

• 7,348 people confirmed dead.
• 10,947 people still missing
• 340,000 people evacuated from their homes.
• 256,819 houses without electricity, 1.03 million without running water.

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At Fukushima Plant I, power cables are connected at No. 1 and 2 reactors to reactivate the cooling system. 50 minutes ago

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still no word on if 1 is up and running yet... they just saying they are hoping to get 2 up today

Sorry I can't give more Kraatos--NHK is in a prerecorded loop again, and JP updates are coming like 1 in 8 against Libya... getting hard to find them sometimes

good grief.. one guy just tweeted this like 15 times... lol

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Jiji Press reports pressure in 3rd reactor going down. Pumping in of seawater yesterday probable cause of pressure

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kool, really hope they get em workin 100% soon im going nutz lol my PS3 is busted and no ff so its like ugh WTF

and now comes the official tweet from TEPCO:

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TEPCO announces pressure has stabilized inside No3 reactor vessel at #Fukushima N-plant, will not release steam for time being

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My info is the reactor was not being legally maintained, and the back up systems were not positioned properly - and if they had been none of this would be happening right now. In other words, the people who were running the reactor messed up big time.

While not to take anything away from the "Fukushima 50" - as they are obviously courageous - the people in charge of those reactors had best do everything they can to avoid a meltdown, else they will have a lot of blood on their hands.

A lot of people are simply blaming the earthquake and the tsunami. I'm not hearing near enough critisim of the actual people who were in charge of the reactors themselves - because if my info is correct, they are a lot more responsible for what happened than mother nature is.

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My info is the reactor was not being legally maintained, and the back up systems were not positioned properly - and if they had been none of this would be happening right now. In other words, the people who were running the reactor messed up big time.

While not to take anything away from the "Fukushima 50" - as they are obviously courageous - the people in charge of those reactors had best do everything they can to avoid a meltdown, else they will have a lot of blood on their hands.

A lot of people are simply blaming the earthquake and the tsunami. I'm not hearing near enough critisim of the actual people who were in charge of the reactors themselves - because if my info is correct, they are a lot more responsible for what happened than mother nature is.

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I would be curious as to the source of your information? This is the first I am hearing anything of the sort, that it was not being legally maintained. Are you refering to the saftey violations they received?

it's rather mute either way....the tsunami ripped up the fuel tanks for the deisel generators, took two of the transformers on the line supplying power to the pumps. So, both of their backup systems were rendered useless by the tsunami regardless.

edit: oh, and the flooding also caused damage to the pumps and circuitry controlling the systems as well.

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I would be curious as to the source of your information? This is the first I am hearing anything of the sort, that it was not being legally maintained. Are you refering to the saftey violations they received?

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A friend was filling me in about it earlier on the phone. I'll have to ask him tomorrow about it if you want a specific source.

Basically the gist of what he told me was it was found that the back up generators that was suppose to kick in and cool the reactor in the event of an emergency didn't because it was not placed properly - or legally - and if it had been neither the Tsunami or Earthquake would have caused this to happen.

When you take into consideration this company's background, it's not hard to believe, and a lot of them are probably going to wish they had been nuked to death when this is all over, cause they are going to be swimming in lawsuits.

bah.. last TEPCO conference wasn't very fruitful... again.
Back and forth about pressure levels in #3, which appear to have stabilized now. 1 & 2 pumps should be operational soon and cooling on their own, but they will not be able to start them at the same time (no details given).

Still progress... I guess

FIX EM!!!! les go turn FF on tomorrow D:
lolol

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it's rather mute either way....the tsunami ripped up the fuel tanks for the deisel generators, took two of the transformers on the line supplying power to the pumps. So, both of their backup systems were rendered useless by the tsunami regardless.

edit: oh, and the flooding also caused damage to the pumps and circuitry controlling the systems as well.

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Back up systems are designed to withstand floods and earthquakes. That's what they are there for.

Bottom line is this. If this had happened at a reactor where the company actually made safety a number 1 priority and had bothered to follow regulations, this wouldn't be happening right now.

The real lesson of this tragedy should be to start holding the people who run dangerous reactors accountable, and make the inspection progress much more vigorous instead of letting them throw the dice and gamble with our lives and just hope an emgergency doens't happen.

the tsunami ripped up the fuel tanks for the diesel generators, took two of the transformers on the line supplying power to the pumps.

Did you miss that... did you not see the pictures?

OK, from the one line - that the "generator was not placed properly" - I know the source already. I reas the same report.

I wasn't trying to shoot you down or cause conflict. I was just curious if I had missed something.

Thank you for clarifying. :)

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the tsunami ripped up the fuel tanks for the diesel generators, took two of the transformers on the line supplying power to the pumps.

Did you miss that... did you not see the pictures?

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Now that you mention it again, which I did read it the first time, I did not see any pictures of it.

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OK, from the one line - that the "generator was not placed properly" - I know the source already. I reas the same report.

I wasn't trying to shoot you down or cause conflict. I was just curious if I had missed something.

Thank you for clarifying. :)

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I didn't think you were trying to shoot me down or cause conflict, so no worries :)

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the tsunami ripped up the fuel tanks for the diesel generators, took two of the transformers on the line supplying power to the pumps.

Did you miss that... did you not see the pictures?

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MEGATRON NO!!!

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the tsunami ripped up the fuel tanks for the diesel generators, took two of the transformers on the line supplying power to the pumps.

Did you miss that... did you not see the pictures?

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Raist i understand that, but the point is if the back up systems had been correctly installed that woudn't have happened. They were a shoddy company that didn't take saftey regulations serious enough, and now a lot of people are going to suffer because of it.

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Back up systems are designed to withstand floods and earthquakes. That's what they are there for.

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They ARE designed to withstand floods and earthquakes, up to a certain point of "reasonable expectation". In this case, I suspect that they experienced a bit above their design specs. But we digress, this string is about requesting updates from SE, not about flaming he operators of a reactor plant, nor debating the safety of Nuclear Power.

Again, no offense intended

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Raist i understand that, but the point is if the back up systems had been correctly installed that woudn't have happened. They were a shoddy company that didn't take saftey regulations serious enough, and now a lot of people are going to suffer because of it.

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You may be right, and we probably will never know. They will never give the results of the final investigation out to us. That is not the way it happens.

I am still of the opinion that no matter how well they planned or how diligent they were, mother nature still probably wouold have had her way in this case.