Character name can't be hidden.

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Originally Posted by Dallas

If you hate being subpar, you'd only allow yourself to be seen next to me once. Chances are very good that I'd make you change to one of your melee jobs, since no one needs that buff cycle garbage.

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What melee job? Although I wish I had one I'd take you out into the field and show you what a real DD looks like. You sure do throw around alot of big talk and bravado for some who won't even let themselves be known

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

This thread is so funny. The only people people who care that their characters name/server are displayed are those with something to hide.
The only thing that remains is what they are hiding, whether they're hiding from an e stalker, or hiding their incompetence by trying to remain anonymous as they say nothing of value or just have no understanding of how the game works and don't want it to come back to them in game.

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Quoted for truth

So this is a very popular thread, this is an annoying issue for quite a lot of posters (including many that never linked due to this). As as can be seen by the arguments against, there really are none.

Any chance a rep can post if there is a possibility of a character hide privacy feature?

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

This thread is so funny. The only people people who care that their characters name/server are displayed are those with something to hide.

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"Only people with somethng to hide are worried about privacy"

That's a bulls**t argument. Always has been and always will be.

Privacy does not require justification.

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

"Only people with somethng to hide are worried about privacy"

That's a bulls**t argument. Always has been and always will be.

Privacy does not require justification.

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When it's something sillly like a character's name in a game that thousands of people have the potential to see anyway, it does kind of require justification.

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When it's something sillly like a character's name in a game that thousands of people have the potential to see anyway, it does kind of require justification.

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Silly to you but not to others maybe?

There are people that post their face in their avatar pic, post the state they live in etc..they don't care. Should that be forced too since they see no problem with it? You have nothing to hide, why keep secrets?

It's not if you consider something silly or not, it's that it's something makes people uneasy or they simply don't want to and that it serves no purpose except people being nosey, there is almost no justification for it. On a forum like ffxiah it's fine, you can simply decide not to post on it but these are the official forums, that are paid for by all of our monthly fees.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

Silly to you but not to others maybe?

There are people that post their face in their avatar pic, post the state they live in etc..they don't care. Should that be forced too since they see no problem with it? You have nothing to hide, why keep secrets?

It's not if you consider something silly or not, it's that it's something makes people uneasy or they simply don't want to and that it serves no purpose except people being nosey, there is almost no justification for it. On a forum like ffxiah it's fine, you can simply decide not to post on it but these are the official forums, that are paid for by all of our monthly fees.

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Comparing an ingame character to posting your RL info is very silly. The fact is thousands of people that you don't know already see your online persona, it's not like you're on a server with 4k+ people and they're all on your FList. It if implemented properly would have meant no one can be a tool on the forums and then run around the game with you having the chance to play with them unawares. As it stands nothing is lost by linking a character, no privacy there's already lots of people that can see your name etc. no security the information given is useless for hacking. The only thing lost is anonymity, and why is that such a big deal you need to log in anyway so anonymity is partial on the forums anyway. You can choose not to post on these too.

What I more or less left out of my first post here, is that I sort of always expected any official forum to have the users connected to their in-game account and thus, I never really saw it as a privacy issue. It's part of the game, so to speak.

I am one of the most paranoid about security and privacy, but even I don't see this as a privacy issue. If you do, then don't use the forum feature or create a secondary account to post with. That would also clear the paranoidness about the account being "hacked" via said feature though in reality, it would be granting one a false feeling of safety, since if it was possible to get "hacked" via this forum like that, then the account would probably be in danger already, no matter what. ^^;

Sure, it's not as simple to create and maintain a secondary account since it is SqEX we are talking about, but it is an option.


If they were forcing to display more information than the name of a character, job, and level which you can all select yourself (level being tied to job obviously), say your real-life location (country for example), then it would be becoming an issue. Again, I understand that the account management of SqEX is not great and that additional characters cost money, so I would be angry too, if this was an issue to me.


Keep your voices heard, but I'd say don't waste your time with pointless arguments which I see a lot here and some are quite heated up even and serve for no purpose other than draining the effort and nerves of some, fersure.

Personally I would welcome an option to hide our character name, job, and level. I have nothing against that. I would probably prefer it, actually, since I do enjoy having options with everything.


Again, just my thoughts, and none of this is towards anyone in particular, just a general view of the situation. ^^

I love how the posters in this are now the "Rebels with out a cause" its not so much the fact that people have something to hide, its that the are "forced" to do something. Its like those people that rebel against the govt. because they are "forced" to pay taxes. Just ridiculous. Because as i said before, if you want something kept private..... then don't put it on the internet, or there is this really cool thing called password protection and only allow certain viewers to view your private items. Crazy concepts of protection, if an avatar that (usually, in which case you obviously don't care because you posted your RL name in a video game as your character) doesn't bare your name doesn't already give you anonymity or a dual persona by which can barely have any association with you in RL aside from the fact that you play the character.

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Originally Posted by Razushu

When it's something sillly like a character's name in a game that thousands of people have the potential to see anyway, it does kind of require justification.

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Go over to /v/ on 4chan, post a screenshot of your character without the name blacked out.

Note that this would not be a wise thing to do. Every horrible thing you've heard concerning 4chan is true.


There is a reason I keep all personal info hidden on the internet, even something as innocuous as a character name in an MMO. It's because anything can be used to track you and there are people out there that will ruin your life just for lulz.

Er... I've seen screenshots from all manner of games with players' names not blacked out on 4chan.

Good lord, you people are paranoid.

It doesn't matter what our reasons are we have them and since this forced feature doesn't even do what they wanted it to (since we are here using mules) why anger a portion of your paying subsribers pointlessly? Just add a hide feature and everyone is happy, that's all those of us with an issue have here.

We aren't saying those that want to share this information should not be allowed to, just that those of us that don't want to should not be forced to. In light of how stupid they did it there should be no argument against this at all...unless you just want something that annoys some people for no reason at all.

the thing that makes me really LOL is that SE / FFXI is one of the most uninformative/secretive games i ever seen and lack clear and concise disclosure of whats happening before hands. This being updates or emergency maintenance or whichever and any one who has played this game for more then a month knows exactly how frustrating this can be. Yet they try to force us to disclose information against our will. Give us the option to do so and they need to quit being so secretive... like people asking earlier in other posts how do you activate fool killer or fatality belt.... they just tell us go figure it out...

I know the mods here read this post, can we get a word as to whether there is a chance of a hide feature at all?

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Originally Posted by Runespider

I know the mods here read this post, can we get a word as to whether there is a chance of a hide feature at all?

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I hope they don't offer any hide feature.
Why? Because anyone who hides on a mule isn't contributing anything worthwhile, if they were, they wouldn't be hiding on a mule. Personally I think it would be nice if this site made you log in with your main characters name and post from that and it displayed your server as well as linked to your linkshell community beta page, and they should update LS community to be as awesome as guildwork or ffxiah, it would eliminate a lot of the stupid ideas/rants/posts and make these forums a lot better. Giving people the ability to hide will result in more hordecores and stupid trolling, why would anyone want that?

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I hope they don't offer any hide feature.

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The post was asking the staff, I'm well aware some love seeing peoples char names but I wasn't asking that.

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it would eliminate a lot of the stupid ideas/rants/posts and make these forums a lot better.

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The vast majority of stupid posts I've read on here were made by a linked poster, your idea although nice does not work out that way in reality. Check the forums yourself.

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Because anyone who hides on a mule isn't contributing anything worthwhile

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What have you done that's worthwhile to this forum? Almost everything everyone posts here is garbage, don't even try that "worthwhile contributor" rubbish.

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Giving people the ability to hide will result in more hordecores and stupid trolling, why would anyone want that?

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I and many otehrs are hiding behind mules, we don't care enough to troll anyone. If certain people are a problem, ban them.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

The vast majority of stupid posts I've read on here were made by a linked poster, your idea although nice does not work out that way in reality. Check the forums yourself.

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The vast majority of dumb posts/threads came from hordecore, who doesn't post anymore, lets keep it that way.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

What have you done that's worthwhile to this forum? Almost everything everyone posts here is garbage, don't even try that "worthwhile contributor" rubbish.

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All I've ever really done is crusade against bad ideas for ninja. I did do/post the math for why throwing is terrible, why ranger is terrible, why ninja is terrible on anything remotely difficult and why yonin and innin are garbage though.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

I and many otehrs are hiding behind mules, we don't care enough to troll anyone. If certain people are a problem, ban them.

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SE won't need to ban them if they make them link their character name and server, then people will be more careful about what they say, or just become a joke in game and not just on the forums where it didn't matter what you said, until now.

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The vast majority of dumb posts/threads came from hordecore, who doesn't post anymore, lets keep it that way.

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He didnt post from behind a mule.

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All I've ever really done is crusade against bad ideas for ninja. I did do/post the math for why throwing is terrible, why ranger is terrible, why ninja is terrible on anything remotely difficult and why yonin and innin are garbage though.

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Yeah so nothing any better than anyone else.

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SE won't need to ban them if they make them link their character name and server, then people will be more careful about what they say, or just become a joke in game and not just on the forums where it didn't matter what you said, until now.

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If people want to be a problem knowing their ingame name won't stop them doing it, they don't care >.> If people are using a mule it doesnt make them a troll/bad poster either. Nobody cares about what you post on a forum ingame as to it ruining a persons rep for being a dumbass, even moreso in the abyssea age.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

He didnt post from behind a mule.

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Oh, you mean Hordecore is still posting? last I saw he hadn't registered a character.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

If people want to be a problem knowing their ingame name won't stop them doing it, they don't care >.> If people are using a mule it doesnt make them a troll/bad poster either. Nobody cares about what you post on a forum ingame as to it ruining a persons rep for being a dumbass, even moreso in the abyssea age.

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It helps a lot, because people who hide behind a mule are basically known to be full of it. Look at that melee SMN guy for instance, and as I said, Hordecore doesn't even post anymore and never registered a character, that alone was worth it.

On the other hand, you could have just listed a low level job on your main so everyone would assume it's a mule.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

The vast majority of stupid posts I've read on here were made by a linked poster, your idea although nice does not work out that way in reality. Check the forums yourself.

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Still waiting on examples.

You know, there are stupid people in the world and sadly a good majority of them play online games. I'm always telling my LS guys that they need to be careful of the enemies they make, otherwise some grand SE idea (Such as this one) Will make it a very hard situation for them.

While I don't think it's entirely a bad idea, I think that sometimes it makes things harder on people than it has to be because of said stupid people.

Makes me think of the mantality of CS vs. Halo.(CS being superior of course.)

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Still waiting on examples.

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Runespider and Atomic_Skull, in a sense, are providing examples in this thread: themselves. It's unfortunate that their examples run counter to their argument, but that's hardly a stumbling block in public discourse these days. Thinkin' and logic is for nerds. The correct line of argument is the one that feels right, man.

Cha Ching!

Point for The Opposition: Tsukino_Kaji doing massive safeface and backpedaling in emergency maintenance thread.

Thanks to this wonderful forum tool I now know to avoid Siren world transfer at all costs!

edit - Holy crap @ youtube rant in FFXI limited due to XIV thread... Siren, abandon ship! There is no hope!

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Oh, you mean Hordecore is still posting? last I saw he hadn't registered a character.

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You said people posting from mules, many of us post from mules and do nothing negative towards the forums. You are picking one person that posted ages ago and trying to base an argument off that, he might of been banned for all you know.

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It helps a lot, because people who hide behind a mule are basically known to be full of it. Look at that melee SMN guy for instance, and as I said, Hordecore doesn't even post anymore and never registered a character, that alone was worth it.

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Many post from mules as I say and post lots of things on here that have nothing bad to be said about them, many which offer as valuable contributions as everyone else. If you want to make an argument against mule posters/hide feature then you have to show that people that would use it would be any more negative than the norm, of the small number of posters you can show that were bad "in the past" they should of been the people that would of been best suited to being banned.

You're the one who made the initial claim that the worst posters on this board were "advertising their names" rather than being anon.

Instead of backpedaling, can you please give the class a few examples? Who are these forum nightmares that show off their character name as a badge of honor?

No one is making any sort of ridiculous claim that "All anon posters are evil". But if you want to claim that the worst posters on this board are non-anon, you have to back it up. Likewise, other people are going to counter you by saying that the absolute worst posters on this board are anon. Does that mean all anon posters suck? No. Stop inferring that it does. But it does mean that Hordecore, Dallas, et al are all anon posters and are considered by some here to be some of the worst trolls/posters on these boards.

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No one is making any sort of ridiculous claim that "All anon posters are evil".

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Yes they are and have done many many times. I'll quote a recent one for you.

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Why? Because anyone who hides on a mule isn't contributing anything worthwhile, if they were, they wouldn't be hiding on a mule.

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I actually said many of the most stupid and pointless posts are from named posters, that doesn't mean regular posters. That EU maintenance post sticks in my mind, I could name regular posters that I consider worthless to these forums and that love to flame/spam up posts but I would rather not make it personal.

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Originally Posted by GG

But it does mean that Hordecore, Dallas, et al are all anon posters and are considered by some here to be some of the worst trolls/posters on these boards.

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*cough*Starcade*cough*Kingfury*cough*

OK, Starcade might technically be anon, but we all know who he is. Hey, we all know who Marcus is, too!

edit - Not arguing for or against anything in particular, just pointing out two counter-examples where knowing not only the player's in game name, but also their actual real life name, has done nothing to curb their stupidity. Shit goes both ways.

Starcade was just crazy, he doesnt count, since he uses that name for everything.
Kingfurry you can have though.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

Yes they are and have done many many times. I'll quote a recent one for you.



I actually said many of the most stupid and pointless posts are from named posters, that doesn't mean regular posters. That EU maintenance post sticks in my mind, I could name regular posters that I consider worthless to these forums and that love to flame/spam up posts but I would rather not make it personal.

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I'll reiterate for him.

no one reasonable in this thread is calling every single anon poster evil. Only that when told "The bad posters show their name" naturally we say "Well, I see more bad Anon posters..."

Then we provide evidence to support our opinions on the matter, All we want is simple evidence from you on the matter. You say some of the worst posters are not Anon, We simply wish to know who you consider the "Worst" posters.

Nothing more nothing less, from me anyway, and probably GreatGuardian. We just simply want to see the forum through your point of view. Trying to understand your opinion.

Then again this post is probably useless because you seem to lump me and GG in with the people who do call you and all anons useless/evil, when its clear neither of us think that (We both can name examples of bad Anons, but we can both name examples of bad non-anons too, its a neutral things). So no doubt your post will likely be as hate-filled as the others.

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Originally Posted by 5x

You're the one who made the initial claim that the worst posters on this board were "advertising their names" rather than being anon.

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You are a strong contender. Note that I have given you a name that better represents your contribution to the board.

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Originally Posted by Dead Weight

You are a strong contender. Note that I have given you a name that better represents your contribution to the board.

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And I've given you one, because as usual you show and hurt the side of the argument you're on.

I say people believe what they want to believe. I think anon posters should let the content of their post speak for itself like any other poster. You can defend your position on either side until you're blue in the face and still folks may not agree with you. The way I look at it the accuracy/merit of each post speaks for itself.

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Originally Posted by Neonii

I say people believe what they want to believe. I think anon posters should let the content of their post speak for itself like any other poster. You can defend your position on either side until you're blue in the face and still folks may not agree with you. The way I look at it the accuracy/merit of each post speaks for itself.

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Valid point.
Good reply, you get straight to the point. I like that. =)

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Originally Posted by Razushu

And I've given you one, because as usual you show and hurt the side of the argument you're on.

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Quick check...

Raz? Check.
Angst? Check.
Copycat? Check.
Content-free? Check.

Yeah, still you. So, Razushu of Fenrir, think we can find someone to vouch for your competency at BP/release?

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Originally Posted by Dallas

Quick check...

Raz? Check.
Angst? Check.
Copycat? Check.
Content-free? Check.

Yeah, still you. So, Razushu of Fenrir, think we can find someone to vouch for your competency at BP/release?

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Anyone I've ever played with can vouch for my skill, So you hidden of Carbuncle can we get anyone but a sock puppet to vouch for you? Or is your own idiocy enough to condemn you?

Whats this BP/release dream you keep clinging to? That died with the 75 cap.

Do you think you're the only one that can see my character name and server? I mean I used the link feature to show my main, so everyone can acutally see this information just above your silly little replies.

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Originally Posted by Razushu

Who cares.

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You know what? It's obvious this is all you are. I'm going back to cutting you off. You are down to one thread (not this one) and I may very well shut that one down too.

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Originally Posted by Dallas

You know what? It's obvious this is all you are. I'm going back to cutting you off. You are down to one thread (not this one) and I may very well shut that one down too.

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Lmao you really really over estimate yourself in every aspect don't you? You were cutting me off? I didn't notice.