[dev1017]* Dancer Support/Healing Redux Idea (also /Dnc suggestions)

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Originally Posted by Kimble

/DNC is only usefull solo and very low man grouping.

And Dancer was not loldnc at 75, anyone who thought so was just a moron and didnt know what DNC could do.

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Sadly that was what I was told when I wanted to level it upon release in '07, and people didn't take DNC seriously enough. OMG it's only worthy for subjobing. Yes Abyssea has changed DNCs perspective a bit, but for the most part, it's still the same from way back in '07, everyone whoring /DNC.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

It can't have a cast time if it is instantaneous. In case you don't know what that means, it means that you do it instantly, no casting, you hit the button and it comes on, like a light bulb.

Magical in what way? I mean, you are converting your TP into an en-effect or cure or debuff. But for the en-effect to work, you have to hit the mob. In order for the debuff to work, you have to hit the mob. Curing doesn't require you to hit the mob, but to maintain cures, you have to gain TP, which means you have to hit the mob.

Spellcasting does not require you to have to hit anything. You can do it as long as you have the tools or MP to do so, or instruments to make it happen.

Your examples require you to hit the mob for it to take effect. Even though almost all does not do any damage (with the exception of Violent Flourish) you still have to hit the mob for the added effect to take place. When you wiff your round of hits, your samba effect on the mob wears off until you hit it again. If you don't land a step, it won't take effect. Both require accuracy for you to be effective. What spell do you know requires you to hit something to take effect?


Go ahead and close it, you lost anyway, and closing this thread is a sign of defeat.

Knock yourself out if you want to close this. Just don't bring it up again.

But thanks for the laughs.

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Actually i offerd to close it because i didnt see my own mistake in not makeing clear that im not 100% if Skill is the right solution to the overwriteing and the not increasing Potency of Ablitys.
You made me laught too so it was fun to discuss my Idea no?

Anyway IF anyone has a better Idea to Address these Issues im open to other sugestions.
Closeing is not a Sign of defeat to me but it will stay so ppl that may have Ideas (better Ideas?) can add them aswell!

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Originally Posted by Chrisstreb

Sadly that was what I was told when I wanted to level it upon release in '07, and people didn't take DNC seriously enough. OMG it's only worthy for subjobing. Yes Abyssea has changed DNCs perspective a bit, but for the most part, it's still the same from way back in '07, everyone whoring /DNC.

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Abyssea didnt change DNCs perspective, getting Merits (namely haste samba merits) did.

And honestly, only morons you find in pick up groups /DNC. Anytime I do shout for something and someone comes melee/dnc, I tell them to use a real sub or dont bother taking them.

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Originally Posted by Eri

Actually i offerd to close it because i didnt see my own mistake in not makeing clear that im not 100% if Skill is the right solution to the overwriteing and the not increasing Potency of Ablitys.

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I THINK I understood what you just said here, but not sure. If you made a mistake in your original post, you can always edit it so people can read it now and prevent "misunderstandings" like this. XD I mean, that's likely the first thing people read when they open the thread.

was meaning moreso the lowman groups (that and alt WHMs, but hey, thats their $12.95 lol)

Added an Edit to the OP for this Matter.

I still say you want a full change of Dancer job, one that would no longer be anywhere near what Dancer is today.

Why not ask for a new job instead of completely changing Dancer and still call it Dancer?

Omg lol... How about you add something productive that you would like to see
which doesn't change the Job to your understanding?
(instead of makeing rather weird asumptions)

I mean really i think we discussed my Idea and it seems to not be the best one around
(more like the only one around). However there could be better better ideas to adress the outlined Problems! Oh dont be that destructive, try to think of another plan.

(to distract me from 'wanting to change everything' >:). If its only for that reason thats fine too)

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Originally Posted by Eri

Omg lol... How about you add something productive that you would like to see
which doesn't change the Job to your understanding?
(instead of makeing rather weird asumptions)

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what if i think the job is pretty much right where it needs to be, at least outside abyssea?

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Originally Posted by Eri

Omg lol... How about you add something productive that you would like to see
which doesn't change the Job to your understanding?
(instead of makeing rather weird asumptions)

I mean really i think we discussed my Idea and it seems to not be the best one around
(more like the only one around). However there could be better better ideas to adress the outlined Problems! Oh dont be that destructive, try to think of another plan.

(to distract me from 'wanting to change everything' >:). If its only for that reason thats fine too)

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Wait, because I stated my opinion on the matter, it is not productive?

What do you want me to say? That I agree with you 100% and you are absolutely right, SE should change the job into your idea of what it is?

Because you are not going to get that.