PS2 Limitations: What are Rumors, What is Truth?

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03-20-2011, 02:13 PM
Zyeriis

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Originally Posted by Nattack

everyone accepted a user and software agreement when they joined the game, covering SE's booty - and spelling out "someday, all things will come to an end. your account does not belong to you, and we can take it away at any time."

I think you took the conversation out of context. They were talking about getting SE to urge ps2 owners to mod their system which would result in some form of lawsuit from Sony.
03-20-2011, 03:17 PM
RAIST

they may have had some funky contractural agreement with Sony that went along with the them selling the network adaptor/harddrive/FFXI bundles.. but considering those aren't being sold worldwide by Sony anymore, yet the game IS on other platforms...I'm sure SE has some wiggle room.

Raist
03-20-2011, 10:58 PM
Kaych

Assuming that its the PS2 that is holding SE back from creating "new & better" content, I think they should do most of theyr new content on PS3 and PC. That way, the PS2 players can still play FFXI, Zilart, CoP ToAH, WotG and Abyssea. Nothing gets taken away, but if they want new stuff, do as the rest of us. Upgrade your platform^_-

I am not a big WoW fan, but what I do like about it is that they upgrade stuff each expantion-pack. Areas are completly new, monsters, bosses etc. This is what SE should IMO.

The point of this thread was to give facts so that the rumors gets busted once and for all. PLease, if you make a statement, can you have a link or something that confirms what you sayO.o?

And please SE, can you answer some of the questions that has been asked and discussed here?
03-21-2011, 01:38 AM
Teraniku
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Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo

Dropping support for the PS2 is a red herring.

A total rewrite of the code base from the ground up, a "Final Fantasy XI All-Stars" or "Final Fantasy XI: The Wiley Wars." It involves almost as much work as making a new game entirely. It involves almost as much money as making a new game entirely. And this for a game that has a declining player base, in spite of a price tag as low as $10 (or $5 digital download)? Even if the publisher in question weren't hemorrhaging cash on Final Fantasy XIV, Adam Smith would have words for you.
The way to get around this issue is to actually develop a solo FF game that takes place in Vana'diel. Then adapt the code of the solo game to the MMO. Only problem is file compatibility.
03-22-2011, 10:27 PM
Volkai

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Originally Posted by Teraniku

The way to get around this issue is to actually develop a solo FF game that takes place in Vana'diel. Then adapt the code of the solo game to the MMO. Only problem is file compatibility.

That doesn't get around the issue at all. Then they're making TWO games! Also, "adapt the code of the solo game to the MMO"? Do you really think that would be quick and easy to do?

What you're talking about may sound simple, but involves far more work than even rewriting the code to FFXI from the ground up.

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Originally Posted by Kaych

The point of this thread was to give facts so that the rumors gets busted once and for all. PLease, if you make a statement, can you have a link or something that confirms what you sayO.o?

And please SE, can you answer some of the questions that has been asked and discussed here?

I second both of these.
03-23-2011, 01:55 AM
Bigtop

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

SE could encourage people to mob thier PS2s, the HDD is the just a standard one, you can actualy use just about any size you want with a slight rewiering.

I am not a computer-whiz at all, but I know my son took his hard drive from his PS2 and somehow used it on his PS3 (its wired to it just double checked ) he plays ffxi just fine has been using PS3 since we bought it for him.
03-23-2011, 08:56 AM
Yarly

This thread is the only PS2 related thread that should be in existence.
03-23-2011, 10:39 AM
Gwynplaine

I wrote a blog post that discusses why re-skinned content doesn't "save disc space", as the myth goes. Some of you might find it interesting/useful.
http://parchmentpaper.blogspot.com/2...hics-dont.html
03-23-2011, 11:17 AM
rog

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Originally Posted by Gwynplaine

I wrote a blog post that discusses why re-skinned content doesn't "save disc space", as the myth goes. Some of you might find it interesting/useful.
http://parchmentpaper.blogspot.com/2...hics-dont.html

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This just makes natural sense but I think the problem is when people extend this same method to zones. Zones do not work in the same way.

That's actually false. They could certainly use the same zone file for multiple zones. However they would have to be identical zones (except npc, mobs, etc), which none are.
03-23-2011, 11:24 AM
Gwynplaine

I suppose they could. But they never have, and there's no purpose. That's what instancing is for.

I get your point though. It's not so much a matter of "working that way" as it is more like, it's just now how they're utilized.

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