It's offiical....SE no longer gives a darn about FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

*sighs and facepalms* i was replying to one part of your post not all of it. since basically replying to the other part of your post would be kind of pointless as there was no room to discuss anything minus derailing this thread even farther.(it's already derailed to heck anyways thanks to trolls so why bother to save it at this point?) and as i said before i don't need to prove myself to you or anyone for that matter.

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Then why bring up the argument that you did? To quote a specific part of it:

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i really don't need to prove anything along those lines but to prove a point. Everyone has a field or two of skills they are not great in. Just because one is a professional in something does not mean they do not have their own problems. no one is perfect after all. I help people all the time irl but that don't mean i can solve my own problems just as easily...funny thing isn't it?

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Okay that's most of it, but the point remains. You don't "need" to prove anything, but you feel the urge to anyway. You are contradicting yourself, good sir. You have also claimed that you were a professional psychologist in response to someone's sarcastic use of the Kübler-Ross model, once more trying to provide yourself with some sort of backing in order to provide some credibility to your statements. Well, I could say that I'm the president, but that doesn't make me one, nor does that do anything besides make me look more foolish for making a wildly implausible claim. Especially since I'm only a law student who is a semester away from finishing his undergraduate...

Also, in response to the derails... don't reply to the trolls, and the topic won't get derailed. You are as responsible for the derail as anyone else, therefore contradicting yourself yet again. Case closed, the community's verdict is in: You are a childish, ill-tempered person who expects everything to come out as they want it, with no credibility or standing in the community, who cannot remain consistent to save his life. And a good day to you, sir.

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Originally Posted by Kazen

Generally when you want someone to take you seriously you speak (or post in this case) in a professional manner. I'm sure a psychologist should know how important using language correctly is. The English language especially can be very critical when used in the wrong form; as a psychologist shouldn't your vocabulary consists of the least offensive forms of language as possible?

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now you just patronizing me....-_-; i'm not at work atm so i don't see why i should bother with such things. i do my job. i help those in need. and i go home and can relax and loosen up. the sterotypes on psychologist are overrated. >.>;

check mate?

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i'm not at work atm so i don't see why i should bother with such things.

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I guess, but I would assume a position of your caliber would cause your habits to bleed into your "off duty" life.
Like myself, I will be at home watching a movie or tv, or playing a game, and will always take note of the Lower Thirds, the Cut Aways, lighting effects and cinematics, even though I'm not working.

What was this thread about?
No one cares, or ever cared.
I'm goin to bed.

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Originally Posted by Kensagaku

Then why bring up the argument that you did? To quote a specific part of it:



Okay that's most of it, but the point remains. You don't "need" to prove anything, but you feel the urge to anyway. You are contradicting yourself, good sir. You have also claimed that you were a professional psychologist in response to someone's sarcastic use of the Kübler-Ross model, once more trying to provide yourself with some sort of backing in order to provide some credibility to your statements. Well, I could say that I'm the president, but that doesn't make me one, nor does that do anything besides make me look more foolish for making a wildly implausible claim. Especially since I'm only a law student who is a semester away from finishing his undergraduate...

Also, in response to the derails... don't reply to the trolls, and the topic won't get derailed. You are as responsible for the derail as anyone else, therefore contradicting yourself yet again. Case closed, the community's verdict is in: You are a childish, ill-tempered person who expects everything to come out as they want it, with no credibility or standing in the community, who cannot remain consistent to save his life. And a good day to you, sir.

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I state things as they come to mind. and as for "the need to prove myself" you confusing "need" with simply"bragging" one can brag about their profession or skills. i only defended my earlier statement attempt to make a valid point on people in general irl. it could be taken as defending or "the need to prove myself" but that's all a matter of perspective. what one wants to see or what one is taught that "this is the norm". as for consistency. i believe i proved my point by what i just said. i have not "attempted to prove myself" in any major manner. you simply saw what i typed and took it as you saw it from your perspective which in terms "creditability" is not an issue here.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

I state things as they come to mind. and as for "the need to prove myself" you confusing "need" with simply"bragging" one can brag about their profession or skills. i only defended my earlier statement attempt to make a valid point on people in general irl. it could be taken as defending or "the need to prove myself" but that's all a matter of perspective. what one wants to see or what one is taught that "this is the norm". as for consistency. i believe i proved my point by what i just said. i have not "attempted to prove myself" in any major manner. you simply saw what i typed and took it as you saw it from your perspective which in terms "creditability" is not an issue here.

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Okay, so let me point out a few things that I noticed in your reply:

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and as for "the need to prove myself" you confusing "need" with simply"bragging" one can brag about their profession or skills.

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Bragging in order to defend yourself or establish some sort of credibility in order to discount someone else's words (such as your belief that he was using a mind game, but because you 'are a psychologist' they wouldn't work) is proving yourself. You're trying to make yourself seem bigger than you are, to establish some sort of respect and boost your own ego with an easily seen-through fabrication.

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i only defended my earlier statement attempt to make a valid point on people in general irl.

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Derailing the argument at hand. Making a 'valid' point on people in general irl had nothing to do with the situation, and once more, you contradict yourself. You really should stop trolling with those derails, you did make a remark in big angry red letters that trolls weren't welcome here. After all, SE won't take your thread seriously if you troll in it.

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i believe i proved my point by what i just said. i have not "attempted to prove myself" in any major manner.

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These two statements contradict each other. You proved your point but you didn't try to prove yourself? Hm.

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you simply saw what i typed and took it as you saw it from your perspective which in terms "creditability" is not an issue here.

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First off, the sentence makes no sense, the usual grammatical errors aside. Ten points off of your grade, good sir. That being said, credibility is a major issue in any situation where you are interacting with other people. By having credibility, you increase the odds of people listening to you and/or taking seriously the things that you say. Conversely, when you don't have credibility, things are just the opposite; people will ignore you, make fun of you, or simply point out that what you are saying is wrong so that others will continue to do the same. This credibility is a strong foundation from which you are able to interact with the other members of the community around you.

My point remains the same, as you can see: You are trying to give yourself some form of credibility by creating fabrications and falsehoods, and when people are pointing out that the mistakes are glaringly obvious and that you have an undesirable personality, making you unfit for socialization among the people here, you try to derail their arguments with feeble, weak replies that do not have any standing on the statement before it. In other words, every post here has been a shambles of easy to pick apart fallacies.

Please just stop trying, it will do you more good in the long run.

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Originally Posted by Kensagaku

Okay, so let me point out a few things that I noticed in your reply:

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Bragging in order to defend yourself or establish some sort of credibility in order to discount someone else's words (such as your belief that he was using a mind game, but because you 'are a psychologist' they wouldn't work) is proving yourself. You're trying to make yourself seem bigger than you are, to establish some sort of respect and boost your own ego with an easily seen-through fabrication.

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Derailing the argument at hand. Making a 'valid' point on people in general irl had nothing to do with the situation, and once more, you contradict yourself. You really should stop trolling with those derails, you did make a remark in big angry red letters that trolls weren't welcome here. After all, SE won't take your thread seriously if you troll in it.

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These two statements contradict each other. You proved your point but you didn't try to prove yourself? Hm.

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First off, the sentence makes no sense, the usual grammatical errors aside. Ten points off of your grade, good sir. That being said, credibility is a major issue in any situation where you are interacting with other people. By having credibility, you increase the odds of people listening to you and/or taking seriously the things that you say. Conversely, when you don't have credibility, things are just the opposite; people will ignore you, make fun of you, or simply point out that what you are saying is wrong so that others will continue to do the same. This credibility is a strong foundation from which you are able to interact with the other members of the community around you.

My point remains the same, as you can see: You are trying to give yourself some form of credibility by creating fabrications and falsehoods, and when people are pointing out that the mistakes are glaringly obvious and that you have an undesirable personality, making you unfit for socialization among the people here, you try to derail their arguments with feeble, weak replies that do not have any standing on the statement before it. In other words, every post here has been a shambles of easy to pick apart fallacies.

Please just stop trying, it will do you more good in the long run.

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once again perspective is an issue here. that aside. i have not made a single attack at you and yet you're attacking me in every post. along the lines of you saying my statement contradicted each other. it did not. proving one's point and proving one's self are two very different things. you simply saw those two as one thing. as for creditability. no it is not an issue here. due to the fact devs don't pay attention to this forum worth a dang as far as i can tell. among other players and forum posters i could care less if i have creditability with them or not. i post on this forum to "try" to have a decent conversation with other players and end up in *bleep*fights half the time.(mostly due to my short fuse being lit. so that's my screw up) so as i said before it is not an issue here.

Credibility*

I couldn't care less*


And for the record, you started this thread with a post attacking everyone that would possibly post something you weren't going to like, before they even did.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

i can't help but lol at this...if you want to play mind games with me you got light-years to go bub.XD i'm a professional psychologist irl.^^

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I'm a Tarutaru astronaut, irl.

Isn't pretend fun.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

once again perspective is an issue here. that aside. i have not made a single attack at you and yet you're attacking me in every post. along the lines of you saying my statement contradicted each other. it did not. proving one's point and proving one's self are two very different things. you simply saw those two as one thing. as for creditability. no it is not an issue here. due to the fact devs don't pay attention to this forum worth a dang as far as i can tell. among other players and forum posters i could care less if i have creditability with them or not. i post on this forum to "try" to have a decent conversation with other players and end up in *bleep*fights half the time.(mostly due to my short fuse being lit. so that's my screw up) so as i said before it is not an issue here.

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Um... credibility is always an issue, especially considering the topic. To most right now, you sound like a raving rumor-monger, trying to think up conspiracies and looking around for someone to point blame at. How do you know that the devs don't pay attention to this forum? Because they don't come up with pretty little responses to say "hey, this is a good idea, here's a gold star for you!"? For all you know, they're taking down notes even as we speak on topics that actually interest them, using the ideas as a baseline in order to create new content for the game. Since when did they have to be accountable to you?

Also, you probably should care about your credibility with other players and with the other forum posters. See how many people dislike and/or ridicule your posts? That is because of poor credibility and standing. If a person knew you acted like this in the game? They would probably be less inclined to invite you to something you wanted, unless you jumped servers and changed your name in the process to restore your anonymity.

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i post on this forum to "try" to have a decent conversation with other players and end up in *bleep*fights half the time.

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Gee, that last part sounds mature. that aside, you don't try and have a decent conversation. You try and have a one-sided one where your side has to be right or you start denouncing people as trolls. That's not a conversation, that's a dictatorship.

Also, as a note from a friend: The phrase is "I couldn't care less." By saying you could care less, it means you do care and that this topic is indeed getting to you, which means that credibility does have some importance in your mind, and as a result unravels every argument you've made thus far. You're a very easy to read little guy, aren'tcha?