Rant About Current End Game - ADL and Voidwatch = Old FFXI, No Thanks

K so its bad to get the tp faster and have occasional overflow, got ya lol. Better off building tp slower and doing less ws damage. Good call.

You are an idiot. He said it is not as good as what you think it is. It's not enough to say "I'm getting 50% double attack so I'm getting 100% more weapon skills". When will you math out empy sam vs mythic sam already ?

I have 90 masa, and I have seen 95 koga, and I get shit on haha. K so 40% double attack and 20% triple attack that proc on ws for THREE minutes, is not worth it because I could tp overflow. That makes no sense lol. That's like saying thf shouln't stack triple attack gear because it will cause them to occasionally go over 100 lol. Man oh man.... Get a mythic or go on the test servers and try it out. Relic sam and drg don't come close to mythics.

math it already and prove him wrong. FOr a job liek sam its really easy to calculate your average #hits/melee rounds and #hits/weapon skills, so its also easy to evaluate overTP. For info @ lv 75 for 6-hit build SAMs, over TP was about 15%, i.e 15% of your tp didn't contribute to WS. For example, you don't TP in ganesha's mala (I hope).

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Originally Posted by Fupafighter

I have 90 masa, and I have seen 95 koga, and I get shit on haha. K so 40% double attack and 20% triple attack that proc on ws for THREE minutes, is not worth it because I could tp overflow. That makes no sense lol. That's like saying thf shouln't stack triple attack gear because it will cause them to occasionally go over 100 lol. Man oh man.... Get a mythic or go on the test servers and try it out. Relic sam and drg don't come close to mythics.

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I already explained that 300 TP is impossible to maintain and that the paper calculs explain that AM3 kept 100% makes mythics (slightly, like 10-15% maybe) ahead of other weapons. That's the problem, it's impossible too maitain. Not only do you need maxed haste buffs, but for every action you do that consumed seconds during the fight - reengaging a mob, using an item, using a job ability, missing the exact moment to use WS, missing - you lose a few percent of the advantage over the normal TP > 100% >WS >TP weapons. All this is quantifiable, and is a penalty for both type of weapon, but obviously more for mythics. The ONLY reason DRG'weapon doesn't suck is because it's usable @100 TP, same for PUP. The ability to use it for zerg is the cherry on the cake.

Theres no reasoning with quetz noobs, don't even bother.

Ask your LS noobs to transfer already. We sold the 5 marrows we got yesterday instantly.

Also today's VU is good news for the second SMN in the PT, as ramuh will get PD and won't depop (I think..).

Sad that people buy marrows 40-50 mil like it's nothing. Guess people like paying 250 million gil for their relic upgrades. People on my server sell for 40-100 mil and they sell.

K so your forgetting the point lol. How can a sam not maintain a aftermath lvl 3? meditate gives 180 tp....while your gaining that tp, your also swinging. I get 300 tp in 1 meditate timer. That's 20 seconds to basically get 300 tp. 1 rana at 300 = 3, yes I said THREE minutes of aftermath. Meditate timer is 2 minutes, 30 seconds for me. How would it be hard to maintain aftermath level 3. Drg. Drg should be using /sam or /war. Prefered /sam, so they get 60 meditate, and then 2 jumps within 3 minutes. Most jumps average how much? I see my cousin jump for 120 all the time. That doesn't seem like it would take more than a minute to save 300 tp. Give up already, some mythic shit all over relics, and just because you have relic 99s, doesn't mean they're the best in the game. I purposely don't have spharai and amano because they are worse damage wise than my damn 90 empies, and I would gladly make mythic before I made those fail relics.

1) meditate gives 180 tp to an empy sam too which is is about 2 ws.
2) You can't maintain AM3 because there is basically no mob that last more than 3 minutes, even ADL, which has 100K HP, lasts the equivalent for maybe 45 sec... So unless you solo everything with BRD/COR/WHM and your mobs always have 400K HP you can't maintain AM3 without wasting it.
Therefore in 99% of the content you are switching between mobs that may or may not be at camp already, runing from position A to B etc. It's clear at this point that the only thing you do is voidfail, good for you, but that alone doesn't justify doing a mythic SAM.
3) I've explained you that PUP (and *maybe* DRG) will rape any DD with mythic or not, with AM3 or not, because the WS doesn't suck @ 100 TP. Any alex wasted on other jobs is fail, unless you have tremendous amount of gil of course.
4) Where is the best gear right now ? Think about it.