[Suggestion] How to reintroduce HNMLS gameplay in FFXI Lv99‏

It's 3AM as I crawl out of bed and reach over to my cellphone while wiping away the crust from my bloodshot eyes as the phone's light hits my face and causes me to look away. I scroll down the list to my HNMLS' newest recruit and fire off a text bearing one word: Sandworm.

Don't show up to those 3AM runs? As Mitt Romney once said to much opposition: "I like to fire people."

I agree with the general consensus that these ideas are pretty bad. But this one's just retarded:

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Originally Posted by Hercule

-Theses mobs should be deseigned to be fight from old school 6 man Party.

-Optional idea: 2 type of camp could be reintroducing "easy camp" like was Greater Colibri on lv 75, and advanced camp that require a realy old school setup with a real Tank, healer, black mages, DD, and based on Skillschain/Magic burst to deal real Damages of course with a reward from theses "advanced camp" more "Valor exp" per mobs.

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Right, let's go back to the old 6 man parties where only a handful of jobs were invited and most people all had to wait around for hours until a Bard or WHM put their flag up, only to have them reject the invite with "NIN tank only" or "2 Bards only" or whatever other unreasonable demand.

Oh, and let's have a crappy selection of acceptable camps, and try to get TP burn melees to greatly reduce their output by setting up skillchains and magic bursts. Oh, and let's force it to be outside Abyssea, so all the mages can struggle with MP and ride their Convert timers just praying they don't run out at a crucial moment. Then they get to be useless for a few minutes while resting MP back, and if they're the healer, no more Exp for anyone until they're ready.

Yeah, let's go back to all that. It was SO much better.

Seriously WTF is wrong with you idiots that want the old Exp party format back? It was awful. It was the worst thing about this game. I've played this game for over 8 years, there's no way in hell I'd ever want to go back to that unmitigated sh*t.

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Originally Posted by Dazusu

Ah, yes. I remember my first Fafnir kill back in 2005. Sitting there waiting for pop with my three Atma(cites) taking my Crit Rate almost to cap, Regain+2 and STR+50 from nowhere. Not to mention the auto-reraise from my brand new Destroyers. Also had boosted HP while in Dragon's Aery taking me to 4K HP and a never ending supply of temporary items replenished by the Darters we claimed mid-fight.

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Sarcasm begets more sarcasm i suppose.

But on a serious note. Who is talking about Abyssea? I'm talking about Voidwatch, and Legion. Atmacites may exist in voidwatch, But they are nowhere near as powerful as Atmas were, and don't even come remotely close to providing the buffs you listed.

Legion is the whole HNM Experience, Without the botting and drama. Voidwatch gives players buffs, Mostly from Temp items, as those are what make Voidwatch easier, atmacites are like a side-bonus.

What my statement is driving too is that, Past or present FFXI, the game is easy. 2005 Fafnir, even being back in the Stupid ages of FFXI, was still easy to kill. FFXI has always been easy for good groups. The only difficulty was in getting the drops you wanted.

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It was tougher to proc mobs back then though, but if you got a rolling proc on Fafnir you could burn it down in 9-10 minutes without it once using Hurricane Wing. At least you had Fanatics Drink to fall back on though. Even below 25% when it seemed to spam Hurricane Wing on our alliance 3-4 times in a row, but when anyone else claimed it - it only ever appeared to roar. Bastard thing. Almost wiped us - but our Revitalizers saved us.

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You're taking my statement out of context, because you know darn well I was talking about Difficulty in battles, Not the actual content of said battles. I know you know this because i do not believe you to be an idiot.

but if we were going to take this posts seriously, and you are describing the negative aspects of recent changes, according to this post, All you want out of FFXI is mindless zerg fights with no real goal in battle other than killing the enemy. At least in voidwatch and legion there's some REAL form of co-ordination and teamwork with calling out procs and hitting them, Or managing 3 bosses at a time, which is ironically what you "miss".

I just can't see what was so fun about HNMs, but i understand you do. Still, They spawned 24-72 hours (Hydra/cerb long windows), Longer for HQ HNMs, You had to fight a horde of bots to claim, even if you claim, You had to hope they didn't try to MPK you, as well as deal with their berating remarks and drama, waiting for you to wipe. It was a horrible experience for all involved, the only reason people ever did it was for the gear.

One guy asked, Why we're so against them introducing it. If they introduced new World-Spawn HNMs, they'd have to give them new drops. Those drops would likely be useful. Meaning we as players couldn't just "ignore it" anymore than you can Ignore Abyssea, Voidwatch, or Legion if you want to get your good armor. It would introduce an Element of FFXI the majority do not want back, and if the armor was good, force them to participate.

We don't hate you guys, Just world spawn HNMs make my blood boil.

For the record, Sandworm, Dark Ixion, Hydra, Cerberus, and Khimaira are all still available for you to camp.

Edit: Vrtra, Jormungand, and Tiamat as well.

I feel like I present well thought out and valid points for my desires, but I'm grouped in with retarded mouth breathers that think World Spawn HNMs are a good idea.

Its not that we don't want you people to enjoy FFXI, its just your enjoyment conflicts, and like everything else in the world, If someone disagrees with you, they'll voice their opinion on it. We don't hate you, we just hate World-Spawn HNMs. Nothing more, nothing less.

That's the thing, I've never said one thing in support of HNM or window camping, ever. I absolutely abhor the thought of more world spawns, but because I want content that requires a static 6-18 man group, that's well organized and coordinated I'm lumped together with people that want retarded world spawn HNMs. So unfair...

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Originally Posted by Return1

That's the thing, I've never said one thing in support of HNM or window camping, ever. I absolutely abhor the thought of more world spawns, but because I want content that requires a static 6-18 man group, that's well organized and coordinated I'm lumped together with people that want retarded world spawn HNMs. So unfair...

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I think I like you more.

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Originally Posted by Return1

I feel like I present well thought out and valid points for my desires, but I'm grouped in with retarded mouth breathers that think World Spawn HNMs are a good idea.

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You may take this the wrong way, but I can't help it. Stop throwing about words like "retarded," "mouth breathers," and "fags." How you communicate is just as important as what you're communicating. You come off in this thread as rude, obnoxious, and disrespectful and not just because of foul language. Your attitude just seems really bad, and your points are easily lost because of it. I mean, I would still disagree with a lot of what you've said even if you were nicer about it, but I could at least respect your opinions. You probably don't care what someone like me thinks about anything, but what the heck.

1.5 hours of camping is much too long. They should lower it to 10-15 minutes like the current abyssea system. Procs are good too, keep those.

otherwise good post op!

After doing a ton of 2am to 4am Fafnirs, I never want to deal with world spawns again like that. Fuck that shit.