Final Fantasy XI 2.0

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Originally Posted by Vitus

It is logical to invest in a project that offers opportunity and growth. FFXIV is new and has great potential. That's where their money should go. FFXI on the other hand is almost a decade old and its population is the remain of mostly hardcore/adddicts. The hardcore/addicts are very easy to please, a few patches here and there a year will make them happy. That's what SE is doing. They left a few devs to create a few bones a year and dangle them in front of our faces and make us labor as hard and as long as possible. The longer we get to the bones, the longer FFXI lives and the more money they get to invest in FFXIV

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FFXIV is inhabited by fanboys, who are even easier to please than hardcores and addicts (case and point, they're playing FFXIV). Your definition of "potential for growth" basically boils down to graphics that could compete in the current market, which would be one of the facets of updating FFXI.

Nostalgia is marketable too, and FFXIV v2.0 isn't going to be able to shake the first half of its name.

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Originally Posted by Reyn

Also: FFXI still lags even on top of the line PCs in certain areas, so...

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Whitegate still has terrible lag even when there's only 15-20 people in the zone. It's rediculous.

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FFXIV is inhabited by fanboys,

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Um, so is FFXI.

FFXI fanboys hate FFXIV.

FFXIV fanboys don't hate FFXI, though.

Honest question: Whos gonna want to play FFXIV when everyone who managed to stick through that BS of the past year has every job maxed out? Whos gonna want to play catch up to that extent?

Remember what FFXI was like when NA's got involved.

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Originally Posted by Nynja

Honest question: Whos gonna want to play FFXIV when everyone who managed to stick through that BS of the past year has every job maxed out? Whos gonna want to play catch up to that extent?

Remember what FFXI was like when NA's got involved.

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I seem to remember FFXI still growing at that time and reaching half a million paid subscribers.

Having a decent portion of high levels on a server means the economy is established and there will be plenty of goods and items to support newer players. It's not a bad thing.

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Originally Posted by Nynja

Honest question: Whos gonna want to play FFXIV when everyone who managed to stick through that BS of the past year has every job maxed out? Whos gonna want to play catch up to that extent?

Remember what FFXI was like when NA's got involved.

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I'm assuming the release of their new job line ups will coincide with 2.0, although I could be wrong. If that's the case, seasoned players will be leveling along with everyone else. Maxed out is only level 50 right now.

FFXI did just fine with the 360 version was released, and the length of catching up there was for new players then was far greater than XIV will see.

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Originally Posted by Deadvinta

Very few of you people know how to argue, or to view a situation from a decent perspective to make an argument from.

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Dialectic reasoning and critical thinking aren't taught seriously in NA schools any more until the 4-yr University level, so there you have it.

It doesn't help that most people aren't fact-checking or reading the thread for comprehension either.

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Originally Posted by svengalis

LOL sure dude. Everytime I log into the game I log into the same area in Uldah it is just as laggy as when the game launched. I have a GTX 460 and it still lags in that city in that game. LOL they still have not optimized that game at all. No wonder there is no PS3 version, the game can't even run on mid ranged PCs properly.

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The lag in Uldah (as well as as other cities near adventurer guild) is due to the amount of characters around you so it's basically server lag, and has nothing to do with graphics. When SE mentions they will adapt display to the user's configuration they are thinking about landscape and quality of display for instance. I got nearly the top graphic card+ cpu form when FF14 was released and the game is awful when I have max graphical settings so they do have serious problems with their engine. It's not only the fact that the graphicx are so cool that you need an expensive config to run it. I think it's more due to the fact that their engine doesn't work very well. Add to this retarded server lag ... Nevermind the fact that you can barely read text when you display it on HDTV which is quite facepalmesque since you have to drop the resolution to even read the menu or people's names.

http://www.square-enix.com/jp/recrui.../plbattle.html

SE is looking to hire additional people for FFXI Battle Planning.

Camate, could we get some additional information on what this pertains to and what it means for us? Any info on an updated roadmap would be good as well.

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Originally Posted by Nynja

Honest question: Whos gonna want to play FFXIV when everyone who managed to stick through that BS of the past year has every job maxed out? Whos gonna want to play catch up to that extent?

Remember what FFXI was like when NA's got involved.

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Ehh, I think a lot of people actually.

Plus, they will be releasing new servers for 2.0 (even language-specific ones) so you can start fresh with everyone.


Btw. People need to understand why they are doing this: XI wasn't a fail, XIV was, it destroyed their reputation. And they want to show that it can be regained, that's why their putting so much work into it. If they only worried about current costs then they would just close down XIV. Instead they allowed people to play it for free while giving them updates. What Yoshida is attempting is quite insane, but if he succeeds then it will mean a lot for the whole company, and if 2.0 is just another fail, then well... S-E can just pack bags :p