Temper info

If you were having trouble with cycles and screaming party leaders, its highly unlikely that you are good enough at support / enfeebling to move to the front line and still perform as well. I don't really see why her being a newly leveled red mage should change that for everyone else.

Are you suggesting that red mages need melee boosts more than improved enfeebles buffs etc. because you partied with mean people that yelled at you to "haste moar!" when you were doing just fine? or are you saying that they yelled at you because your actually not good at buffing / enfeebling so you want to melee instead?

In a perfect world how exactly would a %5~ DA rate get you into more parties or make events go smoother? Are you suggesting that groups would invite you to melee, and then get another red to haste / cure / enfeeble / refresh everyone etc.?

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

If you were having trouble with cycles and screaming party leaders, its highly unlikely that you are good enough at support / enfeebling to move to the front line and still perform as well. I don't really see why her being a newly leveled red mage should change that for everyone else.

Are you suggesting that red mages need melee boosts more than improved enfeebles buffs etc. because you partied with mean people that yelled at you to "haste moar!" when you were doing just fine? or are you saying that they yelled at you because your actually not good at buffing / enfeebling so you want to melee instead?

In a perfect world how exactly would a %5~ DA rate get you into more parties or make events go smoother? Are you suggesting that groups would invite you to melee, and then get another red to haste / cure / enfeeble / refresh everyone etc.?

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I think they were just mentioning that because ppl that aby-burn a job don't deal with all that stuff, they stand there and do nothing terribly constructive and suddenly they have a lvl 90 job, then she comes in here telling them in a very attitude-driven, condescending way about certain playstyles and why they are wrong and whatnot.

Furthermore, I don't think Cid/Rayik/whoever else want to melee instead of enfeeble, they just don't want a job that's listed as a jack-of-all-trades to be regulated to a backline buffer, in the same vein as whm or brd...they want to be able to jump in there and be more active. That's my interpretation anyway :)

I think it's already been said that Temper is going to scale, so it's not just 5% anymore, plus it's just simply a step in the right direction from SE to help rdm out in the melee dept :)

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Originally Posted by Bubeeky

I think they were just mentioning that because ppl that aby-burn a job don't deal with all that stuff, they stand there and do nothing terribly constructive and suddenly they have a lvl 90 job, then she comes in here telling them in a very attitude-driven, condescending way about certain playstyles and why they are wrong and whatnot.

Furthermore, I don't think Cid/Rayik/whoever else want to melee instead of enfeeble, they just don't want a job that's listed as a jack-of-all-trades to be regulated to a backline buffer, in the same vein as whm or brd...they want to be able to jump in there and be more active. That's my interpretation anyway :)

I think it's already been said that Temper is going to scale, so it's not just 5% anymore, plus it's just simply a step in the right direction from SE to help rdm out in the melee dept :)

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This is all I've been trying to say. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by saevel

Sorry but no, there is a significant difference between someone who actually leveled with cycles and screaming party leaders, and someone who leveled while AFK or opening box's.

Leveling inside abyssea isn't bad, but she's missing a few years worth of experience before her opinions will carry any weight, and seeing the tone used in her posts it's obvious she has no plans to actually play the job.

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that's gold, hahahahahahaha

Ty for the laugh, lolol

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If you were having trouble with cycles and screaming party leaders, its highly unlikely that you are good enough at support / enfeebling to move to the front line and still perform as well. I don't really see why her being a newly leveled red mage should change that for everyone els

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See this argument can never be won, I mention something and the immediate retort is "your doing it wrong so therefor you must suck". Its no longer a rational debate, these posters have turned it into a flame contest on who can come up with the wittier come back.

And this they get added to the ignore list.

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Originally Posted by saevel

Sorry but no, there is a significant difference between someone who actually leveled with cycles and screaming party leaders, and someone who leveled while AFK or opening box's.

Leveling inside abyssea isn't bad, but she's missing a few years worth of experience before her opinions will carry any weight, and seeing the tone used in her posts it's obvious she has no plans to actually play the job.

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Oh dear...

I played with her when she was on RDM back in 2008. We didn't have them there Abysseas in those days.

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Originally Posted by saevel

See this argument can never be won, I mention something and the immediate retort is "your doing it wrong so therefor you must suck". Its no longer a rational debate, these posters have turned it into a flame contest on who can come up with the wittier come back.

And this they get added to the ignore list.

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Translation: I can't cope with people disagreeing with me, so I ignore them.

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Originally Posted by Miitan

Oh dear...

I played with her when she was on RDM back in 2008. We didn't have them there Abysseas in those days.

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Except people have claimed to have seen her aby chest burning on RDM under 75. So which is it...

http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Sylph/Kozuki

wat

Also level 61 RDM in 2003 on my char "Shalis" named "mayoko" now and I use it as a mule, leveled in onzozo and valley of sorrows etc before I quit, but pretend you know me <3

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Originally Posted by saevel

Except people have claimed to have seen her aby chest burning on RDM under 75. So which is it...

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I'll take "New Characters" for 500 Alex.