Why complain about balance - recent job changes.

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Originally Posted by Sparthos

You'll never find more COR than BLM because the class is inherently expensive to maintain and was released years after BLM.

Pre-Abyssea, COR was one of the most useful jobs you could use in an alliance setup and worked beautifully alongside a BRD in a party setup. The same will be true post Abyssea as well.

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Lolz. Pup is more expensive than cor just saying. Rdm too. Stop trying to find excuses. Seeing as only einherjar was done in alliances at 75, and after considering how crappy the rewards were, you understand why cor is so bad.

No, PUP and RDM are a one time investment on attachments and Spells. After you make that investment, its done. COR is pricey to keep up on bullet and card cost, if you actually use COR currently and get DD bullets.

I wouldnt take "MarkovChain" aka Pchan seriously, he was the guy that said BRD was useless at 75 esp for Salvage.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Lolz. Pup is more expensive than cor just saying. Rdm too. Stop trying to find excuses. Seeing as only einherjar was done in alliances at 75, and after considering how crappy the rewards were, you understand why cor is so bad.

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PUP pays one time for attachments and some cheap oils.
COR pays continuously for consumable cards, ammo and once for rolls.

Steel Bullets are currently 22k/stack at the lowpoint in desirability for COR today. 2 years ago, that price was more like 30k+/stack. Even if you cheap'd it, NQ bullets have always been around 9-14k/stack.

I won't even bring up Oberon's.

Elemental Cards are about 4-5k/stack from the NPC but are more commonly on the AH for around double that.

Good to know you haven't changed one bit and can't even tell the difference between continuous operating costs and upfront startup costs.

Corsair as a job is useful as far as FFXI goes. It provides buffs, it offers debuff/damage utility through Quick Draw and it can offer ranged damage while doing all this.

It's the mage's Bard.

Goddammit I'm paying 75k for a stack of red curry buns and you complain about a stack that costs 20k at a time where npcing absolutely everything gives money and 20k of today is 2k of yesterday? I think you are really trying to find excuses. You can play cor without card who cares ; most melees or mages do not use food either. The truth is that using a bullet on cor serves no purpose you are here for rolls or else a melee or a mage is doing the job 10 times better. The truth is that putting a cor in the party increases the farming speed by zero and that why nobody wants them before whm blm mnk war nin brd. Because having all of haste, marches, avatars favors, cor rolls, enspells serves no purpose when the best way to farm in a party of 6 is to brew in stacks of 12. Because nothing is "zerked" when you spent most of your time with your back turned until it "procs". After seeing what they did to dynamis (moar procs) I have no hope in cor ever becoming useful.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

But that's what making them good in any way other than another sideways use will do. Either they won't be good enough and will never be used (outside of what we already use them for), or they will be so good that they will get used more than avatars.

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I don't think you thought that through. If something being better than something else means it replaces it, why does more than one melee job still exist?

People are silly, and pick jobs based on what they like. Same would be with spirits and avatars. People would use the ones they liked the most. Us versatile players would use both, because we like to mix our play styles.

Besides, there are already different content for different pets.

- Spirits: Fast nuking on mobs that do not AOE too much, and have no absorb damage.
- Avatars: Controlled damage, great on absorb monsters or AOE stun/silence monsters. Extra good against magic resistant. Allows MBing for extra damage.

We just miss that actual "fast nuking" part on spirits. Fix that and suddenly we are a strategic job, instead of a "toss more predator claws at it" job.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Goddammit I'm paying 75k for a stack of red curry buns and you complain about a stack that costs 20k at a time where npcing absolutely everything gives money and 20k of today is 2k of yesterday?

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2 years ago when that census came out, you weren't eating Red Curry Buns because up until Abyssea only a handful of people would even touch Red Curry when Colibri were more than happy to take it away from you.

In '09 COR was expensive to maintain relative to other classes like dirt cheap BRD, dirt cheap SAM and other popular classes of the day. For the average player, why pick up a job with financial burdens when BRD plays close enough to it?

This doesn't mean COR isn't a good class.
It means people rather take the path of least resistance.
Surprise, Surprise.

Corsair in 2011 isn't played because Abyssea has completely undercut the power of buffs. When BRD is in the toilet, its obvious the more expensive BRD-variant will also be in the toilet.

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I think you are really trying to find excuses. You can play cor without card who cares ; most melees or mages do not use food either. The truth is that using a bullet on cor serves no purpose you are here for rolls or else a melee or a mage is doing the job 10 times better. The truth is that putting a cor in the party increases the farming speed by zero and that why nobody wants them before whm blm mnk war nin brd. Because having all of haste, marches, avatars favors, cor rolls, enspells serves no purpose when the best way to farm in a party of 6 is to brew in stacks of 12. Because nothing is "zerked" when you spent most of your time with your back turned until it "procs". After seeing what they did to dynamis (moar procs) I have no hope in cor ever becoming useful.

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Except I was never talking about Corsair in today's FFXI up until my commentary above.

If you dont quick draw on COR you're are pretty useless. Armaggddon changed COR DD for much better. Guess what? COR uses food as well so add that to even more costs.

Sorry Gimpchan, COR was good at 75, and is still good at 90, even for things outside of abyssea. COR rips Voidwatch.

Everyone knows once SMN gets to use spirits better they're just going to raep the entire game. Better level that SMN up guys!

spirits sucked when SMN was new, they suck now, and they'll suck forever. Forget about them, just steal their MP and move on.

My bad on COR it managed to beat PUP this year lolz. Seems I was correct with the 6 winners and the 3 losing jobs too. And to kimble bard lost like 6 places so yeah completely useless.