Sublimation: "You are unable to cast Refresh [II] on that character."

{Yes, please.}

Tired of wasting MP and having to wait to recast Refresh and/or Refresh II. I would really like a system implemented where one could not attain the effects of Refresh, if one were to be under the effect of Sublimation. To be more specific: Don't allow RDMs or anyone with the spell "Refresh" or "Refresh II" to be able to cast it on someone with "Sublimation: Charging" or "Sublimation: Charged" active in the first place. Please!

That is all. Thank you for your time.

I agree, I think this is a good idea.

Just tell them to stop using sublimation?

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Originally Posted by Alkalinehoe

Just tell them to stop using sublimation?

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But. I loves it. ;o

Besides, Its pretty dang useful outside of Abyssea with the Hat Club earrings and body that enhances it. ;o

I'd hardly ever use it inside abyssea unless we are dealing with mobs that sleep you.

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Originally Posted by Miera

But. I loves it. ;o

Besides, Its pretty dang useful outside of Abyssea with the Hat Club earrings and body that enhances it. ;o

I'd hardly ever use it inside abyssea unless we are dealing with mobs that sleep you.

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Refresh 2 would still trump it no? Or how much ticks can you get now? Only situation I wouldn't use Sublimation (WHM/SCH) is when i have a RDM, otherwise it's sublimation for me. I'm not saying Sublimation is bad.

Isn't it like 9 mp per tick for 2 HP at naked 90?

I don't think the subjob Sublimation gives the same effect as the main 90 Sublimation. I think it's probably 2 HP -> 4 MP, which still isn't anywhere near as good as Refresh II.

I'm more or less hating on the fact that it wastes a recast of Refresh II. It has a very long recast on its own, and Haste does little to make it less... well, lengthy. So I'd like for a similar system for Raises (which is still so confusing to me), wherein you can't cast Refresh on someone if they've got Sublimation on. It does nothing for the target - so why waste the caster's resources? And it's really (seemingly) easy to code - copy-paste what they have for Raise, and change it up a bit.

That's all I ask, really. I find it rude and inconvenient to always ask, "Do you have Sublimation on? I want to cast Refresh [II] on you." And that alone could spur some kind of disagreement. I'd rather not people waste their time on Sublimation when Refresh II is available (i.e. all the time mostly if I'm in the party). But some people are just ignorant, and arrogant at that!

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Originally Posted by Raxiaz

I don't think the subjob Sublimation gives the same effect as the main 90 Sublimation. I think it's probably 2 HP -> 4 MP, which still isn't anywhere near as good as Refresh II.

I'm more or less hating on the fact that it wastes a recast of Refresh II. It has a very long recast on its own, and Haste does little to make it less... well, lengthy. So I'd like for a similar system for Raises (which is still so confusing to me), wherein you can't cast Refresh on someone if they've got Sublimation on. It does nothing for the target - so why waste the caster's resources? And it's really (seemingly) easy to code - copy-paste what they have for Raise, and change it up a bit.

That's all I ask, really. I find it rude and inconvenient to always ask, "Do you have Sublimation on? I want to cast Refresh [II] on you." And that alone could spur some kind of disagreement. I'd rather not people waste their time on Sublimation when Refresh II is available (i.e. all the time mostly if I'm in the party). But some people are just ignorant, and arrogant at that!

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Subbed, Sublimation gives 2HP->3MP/tick. Obviously better to get Refresh2. Wiki states that SCH main gets 7/tick naturally. However they do get a lot of enhances sublimation gear so they can most likely hit quite higher than that. Either way, Sublimation main would outdo Refresh 2 (So stop bugging them to stop using it RDMs). But if it's someone who is /SCH, ask politely for them to stop using it and let you Refresh 2 them. If they don't want it, don't use it.

Sch still use sublimation?

Yeah, every time I've been annoyed with someone using Sublimation, it's always been a WHM, RDM, SMN, whoever subbing SCH. It's not like they're getting anything useful from it in Abyssea. And SCH mains know the deal - every time I've met a SCH, they're always gracious enough to let me know when Sub is down so I can cast Refresh II on them. Communication fixes the problem entirely - but that's asking too much of some people in this game.