[dev1028] Sending Bazaarable items

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09-09-2011, 09:29 PM
Sargent

[dev1028] Sending Bazaarable items

I know the post itself focused specifically on the Ex items that can be sent to the same account, but I know many people including myself who would like to see certain Bazaarable items that you cannot currently send via the delivery box to another character on their account. Specifically:
- Sky pops
- Sea pops
- Abjuration tatters and Seal scraps.
09-09-2011, 09:58 PM
Airget

I would say that since the majority of mules don't have access to sky/sea the aspect of actually trading said items might not make sense since they have no means of obtaining those items if you are referring to the rare/ex versions. By allowing people to trade said items to mules it would encourage people to horde loot rather then have their fellow allies hold onto it.

Consider that you can put loot in your d-box then have it sit in the recieve box without having to grab it. So techincally you would be able to horde 8+ of the same pop item if you wanted to for sky/sea. I"m pretty sure that's the consideration they took into not allowing those pop items to be delivered through the delivery box.

As for abjuration if you are giving it to your "mule" to get them a piece of abjuration then that means they must be strong enough to do it themselves so why not just go as that character to get them. By allowing abjuration to be d-boxed you run into the same issue that people might horde the abjurations for themselves instead of letting it go to those that might need it.

So basically the reasons those will most likely remain undeliverable is because by allowing them to be delivered to another character you leave the door open to allow RMT to stockpile said pop items and sell them as they please which may cause said RMT to pidgeon-hold certain events because they aren't limited by the rare/ex aspect of the item anymore.

As for things like empyrean gear that is a different beast. While sure it can be said that people might get it on one character then use it on another the items in question are more plentiful and the aspect of being able to trade said items is to relieve the time sink if you do happen to have another character on the same account that needs said item but no one else needs it. Abyssea has more options to obtain said gear while things from sky/sea and abjuration mobs are a single NM that's either timed or popped depending on the conditions.
09-10-2011, 01:28 AM
Easykiller

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Originally Posted by Airget

I would say that since the majority of mules don't have access to sky/sea the aspect of actually trading said items might not make sense since they have no means of obtaining those items if you are referring to the rare/ex versions. By allowing people to trade said items to mules it would encourage people to horde loot rather then have their fellow allies hold onto it.

Consider that you can put loot in your d-box then have it sit in the recieve box without having to grab it. So techincally you would be able to horde 8+ of the same pop item if you wanted to for sky/sea. I"m pretty sure that's the consideration they took into not allowing those pop items to be delivered through the delivery box.

You can low man sky, we used to do it with 6 people back in the day, kill every god except Kirin. We ended up giving away trigs because we couldn't hold the amount we got between times we could have a shell merc Kirin's for us. Now you don't even need to Merc kirin, but the same thing can apply where you could end up with 8 byakko kills and 5 genbu just because of how many trigs for each NM you were able to obtain and not have enough people to hold them. Having to have an LS mate trade your mule theirs is an inconvenience.

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Originally Posted by Airget

As for abjuration if you are giving it to your "mule" to get them a piece of abjuration then that means they must be strong enough to do it themselves so why not just go as that character to get them. By allowing abjuration to be d-boxed you run into the same issue that people might horde the abjurations for themselves instead of letting it go to those that might need it.

You can mule Abjuration equipment. It makes no sense if you can't mule the abjurations themselves. I would like to be able to mule my kirin's osode and other parts of that set. You would think since you could give someone or sell someone a kirin's osode you'd be able to send it to a mule, but no... that makes no sense. Failing that at least allow the sky equip porter tag to store that set.

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Originally Posted by Airget

So basically the reasons those will most likely remain undeliverable is because by allowing them to be delivered to another character you leave the door open to allow RMT to stockpile said pop items and sell them as they please which may cause said RMT to pidgeon-hold certain events because they aren't limited by the rare/ex aspect of the item anymore.

Your logic is completely flawed, you can trade seals, RMT have a few people with several accounts, if they had mules across all the accounts they would just trade the equipment to the mules. Being able to send them via delivery box wouldn't stop them from being able to do this. Allowing them to be sent to mules would not open up any new avenues that didn't already exist.

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Originally Posted by Airget

As for things like empyrean gear that is a different beast. While sure it can be said that people might get it on one character then use it on another the items in question are more plentiful and the aspect of being able to trade said items is to relieve the time sink if you do happen to have another character on the same account that needs said item but no one else needs it. Abyssea has more options to obtain said gear while things from sky/sea and abjuration mobs are a single NM that's either timed or popped depending on the conditions.

You can store empyrean equip, NQ, +1 and +2 in porter moogles, the need to mule it is moot unless you have a mule that has the same job leveled as your main and then it would be nice if you didn't have to farm equipment twice. Though the only people I know who did that have 2 separate accounts and they did it so they could PL themselves and sending to another account isn't happening, so I think being able to send empyrean equipment is 99.9% useless.