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Raxiaz
06-16-2011, 12:37 AM
I gotta wonder why these areas aren't included in the "Ease of Exploration" super kupower. Those who scream "GAME TOO EASY" should know that this isn't making the game easier, just more convenient. Which is only a stem a difficulty!

But no, the ease of exploration list should look more like:
San d'Oria
Bastok
Windurst
Selbina
Mhaura
Jeuno
Kazham
Rabao

All of these areas fall under the "Super Kupower" treatment. Why, then, are they neglected by the Explorer Moogles? What was your reasoning when limiting the choices to only the three main cities and the two sidetowns that no one really gives a rip about?

[An alternative adjustment would be to remove the R/E tags from the teleport earrings attained through synergy, allowing them to be sold just like the teleport rings for the crags.]

Zagen
06-16-2011, 12:50 AM
Maybe because Kazham/Norg, and Tavnazian Safehold are accessed after completing quests/missions.

Not sure about Rabao tbh since I've always started as a Bastok Character or progressed decently through the game on other characters before going there.

Raxiaz
06-16-2011, 01:41 AM
They could make it like they made the current listings - only allow you access once you've visited them and have reached a certain level.

Dfoley
06-16-2011, 01:54 AM
Add Juneo to the list as well.

Also can this be seperate from the moogle powers? I mean seriously, I wonder why things this nice aren't a permanent feature. Just make it as others said where you have to visit it to unlock it, and during moogle powers times, it unlocks even if you haven't visited.

Zagen
06-16-2011, 02:07 AM
They could make it like they made the current listings - only allow you access once you've visited them and have reached a certain level.
You just need to be level 20 there is no previous visit requirement. Used this on a new character to get access to the Chasm/Canyon Maws by warping to Mhaura.

I'm guessing since currently there is no "previous visit" requirement it isn't coded that way and will likely mean it isn't going to happen.

Korpg
06-16-2011, 02:42 AM
You don't need kupopowers to get to Tav easy.

all you need is the outpost, and you can be there in less than 20 seconds.

Raxiaz
06-16-2011, 03:18 AM
The outpost warp requires Chapter 3 completion, and I do agree that that is the quickest way. Coincidentally, this idea occurred to me as I'm doing the Chains of Promathia missions for my second account.

Bumbeen
06-16-2011, 04:08 AM
use the earrings fool

Raxiaz
06-16-2011, 04:14 AM
The earrings are R/E and leveling synergy is a chore that I do not wish to endeavor.

If they take the R/E tags off of them and made them available at a decent price on AH, I would repeal this suggestion.

Lynchilles
06-16-2011, 04:30 AM
The earrings are R/E and leveling synergy is a chore that I do not wish to endeavor.

If they take the R/E tags off of them and made them available at a decent price on AH, I would repeal this suggestion.

No they don't require you to level up synergy. At all. You can obtain the earrings simply by unlocking synergy, buying the waystone and silver earring, and finding a friend or even random person to make one for you. I've made them for a lot of friends on my server.



Stop being lazy and cheap.

Legomike
06-16-2011, 04:39 AM
yes please would be helpful for those of us still playing on a dead machine with broken npcs

Raxiaz
06-16-2011, 05:16 AM
No they don't require you to level up synergy. At all. You can obtain the earrings simply by unlocking synergy, buying the waystone and silver earring, and finding a friend or even random person to make one for you. I've made them for a lot of friends on my server.

I'm glad you're the generous and social type, but I'm not you. My experiences with others in the game is different than yours in that I don't know anyone in the game who has synergy leveled. I could shout for it, yes, but the whole process is more complicated than it needs to be. Why go through all that trouble when I -should- be able to just buy it off AH? It's like FFXIV at launch, with the backasswards markets.

Bumbeen
06-16-2011, 05:38 AM
Dude you can level synergy to 30 and do the earrings yourself in like 3 hours for probably under 200k

Lynchilles
06-16-2011, 06:38 AM
Those who scream "GAME TOO EASY" should know that this isn't making the game easier, just more convenient.


I could shout for it, yes, but the whole process is more complicated than it needs to be. Why go through all that trouble when I -should- be able to just buy it off AH?

Waystone: 10,000g
Silver Earring: ~1,250g
/shout Synergy {Do you have it?} 10k {You can have this.]

Tada! Duchy Earring

And guess what? After you use it, you can use it 29 more times!

Raxiaz
06-16-2011, 07:08 AM
I already have a Duchy Earring, after crafting one with my measly level 7 synergy. That level alone took me 30 painstaking minutes to acquire. Utilizing the "power-level" method with a behemoth knife, it costed me a good bit of gil just to get 7 levels. Sorry, but I'm not interested in synergy for the solution to my problem. I've looked at it, considered it, and decided that that is NOT how I would like to spend my time in-game.

Ravenmore
06-16-2011, 07:32 AM
Really all those places can be reached in about 10 mins tops. Would it be nice to add them, yes needed no. Shouting for someone with synergy is the safest of all the crafts to get some one to make it for you. As for Safehold finish up to the point you get the ring then you can teleport there every 24 hours, and the OP warp you can use when ever you want.

Korpg
06-16-2011, 08:39 AM
Most earrings can be solo synergy made.

I can make all but Whitegate myself, and I have crappy synergy skill.

Raxiaz
06-16-2011, 08:42 AM
Tavnazian ring is obtained in chapter 8. Might be after the final boss but I can't remember. And it's only once every 24 hours... unless SE changed it.

Korpg
06-16-2011, 08:45 AM
Tavnazian ring is obtained in chapter 8. Might be after the final boss but I can't remember. And it's only once every 24 hours... unless SE changed it.

Chapter 8-1, it is the reward for killing the 9 Aerns outside of whatever zone you go inside of (lazy to look up).

Octaviane
06-16-2011, 08:59 AM
I'm glad you're the generous and social type, but I'm not you. My experiences with others in the game is different than yours in that I don't know anyone in the game who has synergy leveled. I could shout for it, yes, but the whole process is more complicated than it needs to be. Why go through all that trouble when I -should- be able to just buy it off AH? It's like FFXIV at launch, with the backasswards markets.


Good suggestions here that you appear to "toss" aside. Don't like it? Don't play. Simple.

Bumbeen
06-16-2011, 09:17 AM
I've looked at it, considered it, and decided that that is NOT how I would like to spend my time in-game.

Lol, and hoping SE is going to add the locations to the moogle is the better route? I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

Raxiaz
06-16-2011, 09:55 AM
Chapter 8-1, it is the reward for killing the 9 Aerns outside of whatever zone you go inside of (lazy to look up).

My sincerest apologies for having been on my phone at the time, bored, riding around in a car. But hey, it's straight, I stand corrected. Didn't remember exactly at the time.

As for the laziness aspect, how do you get from Jeuno to any of the three nations quickly? Or from the nations to Jeuno? Can't exactly remember any routes 'cept for tidal talisman, but meh. I like to use that for other things sometimes. Just sayin', when the boat rides are 15 minutes, I don't enjoy waiting on the boat to Nashmau much, y'see. I know, I know, there's an earring... /sigh.

Enlighten me.

Bumbeen
06-16-2011, 10:16 AM
Really the earrings are worth it. It's the only method of transportation I use now. I keep all of them in satchel.

Fiarlia
06-17-2011, 12:26 AM
As for the laziness aspect, how do you get from Jeuno to any of the three nations quickly? Or from the nations to Jeuno? Can't exactly remember any routes 'cept for tidal talisman, but meh. I like to use that for other things sometimes. Just sayin', when the boat rides are 15 minutes, I don't enjoy waiting on the boat to Nashmau much, y'see. I know, I know, there's an earring... /sigh.

Enlighten me.

From Jeuno to nations without Earring: Warp to the Abyssea - Attohwa maw, walk a few steps to the Kolshushu Outpost (the one in Buburimu) and Outpost Warp home. Could also do Vunkerl, Ulegeuarand, Misareaux since they're close to outposts as well. And if all the areas are occupied by beastmen (incredibly unlikely) you can use the Maws to Tahronghi, La Theine or Konschtat and then use the Field Manuals for Repatriation. If you talking about specific nations, Abyssea - Altepa is right next to Bastok, Abyssea - La Theine is very close to Sandy, and Abyssea - Tahronghi is quite close to Windurst, though Windurst still remains the most annoying to get to (moot if your nation or home point is Windy though.) Not to mention going to Upper Jeuno, trading 300 gil to warp to Aht Urgahn, then silver piece warping to home nation.

Going from any of the nations to Jeuno: Trade 300 gil to the respective Mercernary Warp NPC > Silver Piece to the Taru and go to Jeuno, or take the free taru and walk a bit if you want, whatever.

Getting to Nashmau is the only annoying one, and only if the Candy is gone. Dvucca Staging point and walk, simple simple. (Think it's Dvucca, been a while, and I have a Tidal Talisman so meh.)

Getting anywhere in the game is pretty quick and easy nowadays.

Zaknafein
06-17-2011, 12:33 AM
If your too lazy to invest the paltry time needed to make earrings then you deserve to walk places.

Fiarlia
06-17-2011, 12:43 AM
If your too lazy to invest the paltry time needed to make earrings then you deserve to walk places.

^This is one of the correct answers.

lowkey
06-17-2011, 01:21 AM
^This is one of the correct answers.

I'm afraid not. It's thinking like that that has turned FFXI into The Care Bears Adventure in Vana'diel. Everyone should have to walk everywhere, at all times. All this fast travel nonsense is taking all the challenge right out of the game. Back in my day we had to walk to Sky. We grudgingly accepted that the only way to initially reach Kazham was to ride one of them newfangled airships, but we would have preferred the challenge of having to swim there. I personally wanted my character to spit in that liberal douche-bag, the Archduke's face, when he forced me to accept the airpass for doing rank 5, but alas SE didn't give us the ability to spit--PS2 limitations and all.

Camate
06-17-2011, 03:35 AM
After talking to the lead developer about this, he mentioned that he would look into it; however, since this is only one of many possible effects from the mog tablets’ super kupowers, implementing the requested cities might be a bit iffy.

Raxiaz
06-17-2011, 03:48 AM
Thank you for your response, Camate.

Raxiaz
06-17-2011, 03:52 AM
Going from any of the nations to Jeuno: Trade 300 gil to the respective Mercernary Warp NPC > Silver Piece to the Taru and go to Jeuno, or take the free taru and walk a bit if you want, whatever.

This is the one that I'm fairly unsatisfied about. From nations to Jeuno you either take the airship, chocobo, or go through Aht Urhgan. But I don't like that method because it's so round-a-bout, if you know what I mean. I'd like the occasional ability to teleport between cities to affect all civilized establishments across Vana'Diel. More specifically, any cities affected by the Super Kupowers.

Bumbeen
06-17-2011, 04:05 AM
If you're on valefor i'll make the earrings for you if you'll delete this thread.

Kiba
06-17-2011, 04:06 AM
I figured since it worked for Raxiaz maybe it will work for me. Please pardon my interception. /bow

After talking to the lead developer about this, he mentioned that he would look into it; however, since this is only one of many possible effects from the mog tablets’ super kupowers, implementing the requested cities might be a bit iffy.
Well then with all due respect Camate, hear me out on the Relic & Mythic Weapons Reborn thread!
ATTN: Dev/Comm. Rep -Relic & Mythic Weapons Reborn {Yes, Please} (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/2528-ATTN-Dev-Comm.-Rep-Relic-Mythic-Weapons-Reborn-Yes-Please-%E3%83%AC%E3%83%AA%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%81%A8%E3%83%9F%E3%82%B7%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%81%AE%E5%BC%B7%E5%8C%96?p=119836&viewfull=1#post119836)

Bumbeen
06-17-2011, 04:11 AM
I figured since it worked for Raxiaz maybe it will work for me. Please pardon my interception. /bow

Well then with all due respect Camate, hear me out on the Relic & Mythic Weapons Reborn thread!
ATTN: Dev/Comm. Rep -Relic & Mythic Weapons Reborn {Yes, Please} (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/2528-ATTN-Dev-Comm.-Rep-Relic-Mythic-Weapons-Reborn-Yes-Please-%E3%83%AC%E3%83%AA%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%81%A8%E3%83%9F%E3%82%B7%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%81%AE%E5%BC%B7%E5%8C%96?p=119836&viewfull=1#post119836)

I agree, your request is actually more legitimate than this thread is:

"Please put smaller towns that I rarely ever need to go to on the explorer moogle that most of the time we can't even use so I don't have to spend 2 hours to make three earrings that will last 3 months and can be used anywhere, all the time."

Raxiaz
06-17-2011, 04:15 AM
I don't appreciate the snide remarks, Bumbeen.

I suppose I'll concede as far as just adding Jeuno to the list. The other towns aren't as important, I admit. And it's weird for Jeuno not to be included, yet the three starter cities + selbina/mhaura are. Alongside Jeuno ought to be Kazham and Rabao as well, just for completion's sake. Norg is supposed to "hidden"; and Tavnazia, well eh. Tavnazia ring is for that, as is the "teleport -> dimensional rift -> sea" route.

I think there should be visitation requirements for areas before you can teleport to them via Explorer Moogle. That could be why they don't have Rabao and Kazham, because they're expansion data (but...really, who -doesn't- have RotZ?), and they wouldn't want newbies or trial people to get level 20 and then crash their client after trying to warp to an area they can't even access.

I'm holding my flame shield ready for having suggested visitation requirements for this.

Juilan
06-17-2011, 05:27 AM
After talking to the lead developer about this, he mentioned that he would look into it; however, since this is only one of many possible effects from the mog tablets’ super kupowers, implementing the requested cities might be a bit iffy.
shouldnt be hard to do unless someone drugged the devs... these were the same one that made ease of exploration no

Bumbeen
06-17-2011, 06:10 AM
I believe explorer moogles were around before I quit in 2009. So it was added by the old dev team.

Misi
06-17-2011, 06:23 AM
Really like the idea of Kazham being on that List. Taking a ship is getting boring, and with how far and complex the OP there is its better to just airship. I don't mind Norg so much, being the OP isn't that far and is a bunch of right turns through SSG.

Luvbunny
06-17-2011, 06:44 AM
The fact that this has not been implemented is very baffling. Jeuno has the magian trial and the npc that keep the seals/crest. The fact that they now have abyssea npc in all 3 cities are amazing fix. But they should have magian moogle, crest/seal npc as well in all 3 starter nations plus Aht Ungat, Rabao, Norg, and Kazham. This would help to ease the congestion in a big way.

Ravenmore
06-17-2011, 06:53 AM
What I still find funny is the fix the OP wants is something that is random on what we get as powers.

Luvbunny
06-17-2011, 07:01 AM
Well, since it is random, it does not always happen, so SE should be able and willing to implement this since it does not always happen. And it does take gill out of the population everytime you use it. I mean, this moogle should be a permanent addition in all cities, big and small so that you no longer need to take ship or airship. This would make the game more convenient. SE developer should focus on ease of exploration and reduce timesink when it comes to traveling between areas. This way you have options to explore at your leisure if you prefer, or get to the said destination ASAP when you run out of time.

Korpg
06-17-2011, 07:08 AM
As for the laziness aspect, how do you get from Jeuno to any of the three nations quickly? Or from the nations to Jeuno? Can't exactly remember any routes 'cept for tidal talisman, but meh. I like to use that for other things sometimes. Just sayin', when the boat rides are 15 minutes, I don't enjoy waiting on the boat to Nashmau much, y'see. I know, I know, there's an earring... /sigh.

Enlighten me.

From Jeuno to 3 Nations: Set your homepoint for your home nation, and level WHM to 37. Easy as pie, and 1/3 of the time the time it takes to get to starter nations takes as long as a cast and a zone. Bonus points for having the 2 outposts for the two nations that are not your home nation.

From the 3 Nations to Jeuno: Tidal Talisman, or if you don't have that, Qufim Island OP warp. Warp to your home nation homepoint from there.

From the 3 Nations to Whitegate: Stop being lazy and do the Whitegate warp quests in all 3 nations + Jeuno. Set your homepoint to your home nation and memorize the NPC to warp to Whitegate.

From the Whitegate to Nashmau: Nyzul Isle, there is a quick and easy way there, first port to the right if I remember correctly. Doesn't bother me since I have the Nashmau Earring.

In case you didn't realize it: Set your homepoint to your home nation, make some earrings, do some outpost warps, and stop being lazy.

Luvbunny
06-17-2011, 07:12 AM
Your list is A LOT of crap to do. The point of this post is to make traveling easier and MORE convenient for EVERYONE instead of having us to do boat loat of shit and have to yet have more items in our already maxed out inventory slot. Making the game enjoyable and convenient should be the focus of the developer. That, and fixing stuffs already in the game that needs fixes, example: Voidwatch...

Raxiaz
06-17-2011, 07:32 AM
From Jeuno to 3 Nations: Set your homepoint for your home nation, and level WHM to 37. Easy as pie, and 1/3 of the time the time it takes to get to starter nations takes as long as a cast and a zone. Bonus points for having the 2 outposts for the two nations that are not your home nation.

From the 3 Nations to Jeuno: Tidal Talisman, or if you don't have that, Qufim Island OP warp. Warp to your home nation homepoint from there.

From the 3 Nations to Whitegate: Stop being lazy and do the Whitegate warp quests in all 3 nations + Jeuno. Set your homepoint to your home nation and memorize the NPC to warp to Whitegate.

From the Whitegate to Nashmau: Nyzul Isle, there is a quick and easy way there, first port to the right if I remember correctly. Doesn't bother me since I have the Nashmau Earring.

In case you didn't realize it: Set your homepoint to your home nation, make some earrings, do some outpost warps, and stop being lazy.

Excuse me Korpg, but could you please refrain from calling me lazy? I've done every single Lure of the Wildcat quests in all cities (including Jeuno). I've used that method numerous times. I'm getting tired of doing that for Jeuno when quicker methods are available for the three starter cities and Mhaura/Selbina at that.

I'm not lazy, I'm tired. I'm tired of having to go to Ibwam, select "trade" from my inventory and put in 300 gil (because just talking to him is not enough), confirm, and then confirm again, and then wait on load times, run to the Tarutaru near MH (I have more than enough silverpieces, so that isn't my issue with this), trade an imperial silverpiece, select Jeuno (I've selected home nation on two occasions before by accident), then I'm in Ru'Lude Gardens. Then run to MH, hit the elevator button (because Ru'Lude is the bastard child of city areas with MHs), wait on a CS, wait on load times again, select my door, select different area, select Port Jeuno. Load time, done.

When I could just go to the Explorer Moogle when he's up and select Jeuno from the list. He doesn't even need me to trade my gil - he just takes it! (Another example of inconsistency in this game...)

I keep my home point in Jeuno just because of this. I feel that, for major cities, I should not have to do more than two zone jumps to get to the city itself, in the most convenient way possible to me not granted to me by a $40 item.

Luvbunny
06-17-2011, 07:38 AM
Raxiaz, awesome post!! EASE of exploration should be the NUMBER ONE focus on this game. Do you even listen developer? It is never the big things you do to the game... the little things that aggravate most players will quickly turn off a lot of people and sooner or later, canceling their subscription. FIX the most annoying little things!!! FOCUS on that!

Bumbeen
06-17-2011, 07:42 AM
So what are you gonna do when the moogle is down? Which is most of the time.

Raxiaz
06-17-2011, 07:50 AM
Bumbeen, are you serious? I'd already accounted for that before I made this topic.

When that Moogle's down, I would cheerfully go to Ibwam and redundantly select trade from the menu, give him the 300 gil, wait on load times, run to that warp Taru, and go about my merry way. All the while knowing that convenience is a three out of eleven chance every week, for a whole week. And a guarantee during the anniversary season.

Luvbunny
06-17-2011, 07:56 AM
Yes Bumbeen, it is an option, I wish it is a permanent moogle. But I rather have occasional options that grants me ease of exploration, in the TRUEST sense of the word.

Bumbeen
06-17-2011, 08:45 AM
But that has nothing to do with kazham norg or rabao which is in the thread title. How do you get to those areas without explorer moogle up? The thought of outpost or airship is so detestable to you that you would make a thread asking the developers to change the game but at the same time don't wish to spend the 2 hours it takes to make the earrings.

The convenience you say is 3/11 chance is 100% chance for me and everyone else who cares to spend the paltry amount of time and gil to make it that way.

Korpg
06-17-2011, 08:52 AM
Excuse me Korpg, but could you please refrain from calling me lazy? I've done every single Lure of the Wildcat quests in all cities (including Jeuno). I've used that method numerous times. I'm getting tired of doing that for Jeuno when quicker methods are available for the three starter cities and Mhaura/Selbina at that.

I'm not lazy, I'm tired. I'm tired of having to go to Ibwam, select "trade" from my inventory and put in 300 gil (because just talking to him is not enough), confirm, and then confirm again, and then wait on load times, run to the Tarutaru near MH (I have more than enough silverpieces, so that isn't my issue with this), trade an imperial silverpiece, select Jeuno (I've selected home nation on two occasions before by accident), then I'm in Ru'Lude Gardens. Then run to MH, hit the elevator button (because Ru'Lude is the bastard child of city areas with MHs), wait on a CS, wait on load times again, select my door, select different area, select Port Jeuno. Load time, done.

When I could just go to the Explorer Moogle when he's up and select Jeuno from the list. He doesn't even need me to trade my gil - he just takes it! (Another example of inconsistency in this game...)

I keep my home point in Jeuno just because of this. I feel that, for major cities, I should not have to do more than two zone jumps to get to the city itself, in the most convenient way possible to me not granted to me by a $40 item.

You have done the worst part of the whole "getting from point A to point B" part.

And you know what, you are lazy. You can't even make a simple and easy (plus cheap) earring by yourself to get from point A to point B. You want the whole game handed to you on a silver platter. Well guess what, things are not like that and demanding something that won't happen more than 1/6th of the time on average just because you are "tired" is not going to help you at all.

Why not just stop complaining, get some friends, and make the earrings yourself if you don't think you can make the earrings by yourself, like almost everyone else does...

Edit: Also, that $40 item was the real life version of the pendant, not the actual in-game item, which was a bonus. That pendant looked really cool, so I got it for myself. Still have it too, just to show you that some people like real life instead of in game items.

Raxiaz
06-17-2011, 08:59 AM
I never meant to demand, I never meant to complain, I never meant to be an annoyance. I was simply stating why I made this suggestion. When you've done the Aht Urhgan warp as much as I have you begin to get tired of it.

I don't want the whole game handed to me on a platter. I like working towards my goals, thanks. To better get them done, the occasional warp to Jeuno would be nice.

I can't see how I'm lazy either when I've always gone where I needed to go. Sure it may be tedious and redundant when there could be a better option available (could be, key phrase), but I still do it. I still wait at that god damn ship in Whitegate to go to Nashmau. At least three to four times a week.

By the way, I -DO- have a Duchy Earring. Not many charges left on it though. Would have more if they had *cough* EoE include Jeuno in the list. I'm not lazy, because I went through hurdles to craft that thing (level 30 synergy recommended, IIRC) at level 7 synergy.

Please do not call me lazy. I'm only looking to make things more convenient. I'm on floor 77 of Nyzul Isle. If I was suggesting there be a way to skip to 100 so I could finish my mythic WS, yeah, that'd be lazy. But I'm only wanting convenience, without sacrificing more inventory space.

I don't think I'm gonna respond to this topic any more. I've stated my case, and here people continue to belittle me, even after I've politely asked them not to. It's very disappointing - I was hoping the official forums would have more decency, but I guess not. Still the ole' internet, I suppose.



Edit: Also, that $40 item was the real life version of the pendant, not the actual in-game item, which was a bonus. That pendant looked really cool, so I got it for myself. Still have it too, just to show you that some people like real life instead of in game items.
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu308/ultimanernx/2011-06-16_20-03-11_878.jpg

I will humbly rest my case on that. ^^; Made me want to dust off my original soundtrack collection for FFXI, but eh... I suck at navigating through boxes I haven't used in a few years.

Bumbeen
06-17-2011, 09:02 AM
Convenient is having an earring you can use wherever you are, whenever you want, no matter what kupopowers there are.

In fact I should make a thread asking the devs to remove explorer moogle kupopower since it has no use for me at all! It's just taking up valuable space that could be used for a more useful kupopower.

Korpg
06-17-2011, 09:15 AM
If you have a duchy earring, why are you always in Jeuno?

There really isn't any reason for having your HP in Jeuno or Whitegate anymore, since AH is worldwide now.

Raxiaz
06-17-2011, 09:20 AM
I make sole sushi for a living, and ground wasabi is most easily accessible to me through Lower Jeuno. I don't trust the other NPCs. Really, I don't. ;)

Duchy earring also only has 30 charges on it. It's gonna run out soon. Could've been long gone by now if I had not been so stingy with it. Just checked, has 5 charges on it. Whew. Time to start worrying about another one soon.

Khajit
06-17-2011, 12:23 PM
Are you seriously trying to claim you aren't lazy when you just claimedTRADING 300 GIL TO AN NPC is too hard?

Korpg
06-17-2011, 12:37 PM
I make sole sushi for a living, and ground wasabi is most easily accessible to me through Lower Jeuno. I don't trust the other NPCs. Really, I don't. ;)

Norg NPC. As long as you don't go down there during darkday, you have much better odds of getting wasabi there cheap than in Jeuno.

Besides, after the 30 charges are up, whats keeping you from chunking that and getting a new earring with 30 more charges?

Cruentus
06-17-2011, 04:07 PM
After talking to the lead developer about this, he mentioned that he would look into it; however, since this is only one of many possible effects from the mog tablets’ super kupowers, implementing the requested cities might be a bit iffy.

There is an easy way to make it not so iffy. Just add a clause or something to the coding, so that the Explorer Moogle won't offer that city as an option for teleportation unless you've already been there at least once.

Raxiaz
06-17-2011, 10:43 PM
Are you seriously trying to claim you aren't lazy when you just claimedTRADING 300 GIL TO AN NPC is too hard?

I never said it was too hard - I said that it was redundant when other NPCs will just take the 300 gil from you (read: Explorer Moogle, Outposts, etc). I respectfully ask that you don't put words in my mouth.

@Korpg: I almost always get ground wasabi for 1,945 from Amalasanda in Lower Jeuno. The Norg NPC is also less convenient than the Lower Jeuno one. Weighing a five minute trip against a forty five second walk? If it's not Earthday, I'll go with the second, thanks.

The thing keeping me from getting another earring is the headache I endured getting the first one. I might take some time to level synergy, but I honestly hate the craft. Takes 5 minutes to make one item when it only takes 30 seconds for other crafts. And what, pray tell, short of fashion gear and earrings does Synergy allow people to make? More advanced craft support furnishings? Ugh... Waste of time, resources, and effort if you ask me.

Korpg
06-17-2011, 11:24 PM
@Korpg: I almost always get ground wasabi for 1,945 from Amalasanda in Lower Jeuno. The Norg NPC is also less convenient than the Lower Jeuno one. Weighing a five minute trip against a forty five second walk? If it's not Earthday, I'll go with the second, thanks.

The thing keeping me from getting another earring is the headache I endured getting the first one. I might take some time to level synergy, but I honestly hate the craft. Takes 5 minutes to make one item when it only takes 30 seconds for other crafts. And what, pray tell, short of fashion gear and earrings does Synergy allow people to make? More advanced craft support furnishings? Ugh... Waste of time, resources, and effort if you ask me.

Unless you only do Sushi on your character, and never have to move from one point to another a lot, I could see your reasoning. However, you are asking for specific movement enhancements, so I take that as a no.

It is still easier to set your HP to your home nation and walk to Norg than it is to set your HP to Jeuno, and have to go all the way to your home nation every time you need to go somewhere that is not abyssea. Also, it is cheaper to sell sushi at home nations than it is to sell them in Jeuno, so just by setting your home point at your home nation would save you a lot of travel time.

Also, about the synergy complaint? Is Synergy complete, or as complete as other crafts, like cooking? Do you not expect SE to add more synergy stuff, like the new system they just did for sky gear? And speaking of which, some sky gear have become the new standard for gear thanks to synergy. High synergy skill means better chance for HQing augments on sky stuff. I don't think Synergy is a waste of time, and by the looks of it, it will continue to grow.

Bumbeen
06-17-2011, 11:29 PM
You can make a lot of gil with it. Straight easy profit off people like OP here who don't want to level the fastest leveling craft in the game. It is after all a waste of time compared to maintaining a thread on the forums that give a 1% chance that there will be a 3/11 chance that you'll be able to talk to a moogle and teleport to jeuno/norg/kazham/rabao.

It took me about 8 hours to get to 60. Wouldn't take but probably 3 more to cap it.

Raxiaz
06-17-2011, 11:31 PM
Point taken on synergy. I retract my former statement.

When I go to Norg, I typically just Teleport-Yhoat and chocobo it. I'm so familiar with the path, I don't even open my map on my way to Norg. And it's faster, to me, to set my HP in Jeuno and then when I need to go to my home nation I would either walk outside and go FoV Repatriation or Teleport-Vahzl and walk to the OP. My tabs have actually gone from about 3k to 400 recently, just from doing CoP missions.

The occasional ability to teleport between Jeuno and the three nations freely is something that everyone would welcome. Even you.

Korpg
06-17-2011, 11:34 PM
The occasional ability to teleport between Jeuno and the three nations freely is something that everyone would welcome. Even you.

Even a permanent ability to teleport between Jeuno and the 3 nations is acceptable.

But nobody is complaining about not having that ability, nobody except you.

wildsprite
07-02-2011, 06:33 AM
But no, the ease of exploration list should look more like:
San d'Oria
Bastok
Windurst
Selbina
Mhaura
Jeuno
Kazham
Rabao

All of these areas fall under the "Super Kupower" treatment. Why, then, are they neglected by the Explorer Moogles? What was your reasoning when limiting the choices to only the three main cities and the two sidetowns that no one really gives a rip about?

[An alternative adjustment would be to remove the R/E tags from the teleport earrings attained through synergy, allowing them to be sold just like the teleport rings for the crags.]

I think it would make more sense if the list was more like
San d'Oria
Bastok
Windurst
Selbina
Mhaura
(the below become available once you have been to that city/town)
Jeuno
Kazham
Rabao

Tsukino_Kaji
07-02-2011, 09:05 AM
But no, the ease of exploration list should look more like:
Windurst
San d'Oria
Selbina
Mhaura
Kazham
Rabao
LastokFixed.

Superfluous text.

Tsukino_Kaji
07-02-2011, 09:24 AM
(the below become available once you have been to that city/town)It would aply to all of them actualy.

wildsprite
07-02-2011, 06:27 PM
I'm pretty sure you are incorrect on that one, right now I think the only requirement for the explorer moogle is that you are level 20 not that you visit the area first, although I could be wrong on that

Raxiaz
07-03-2011, 04:36 AM
It needs these restrictions for all areas:

1. Level 20 on at least one job.
2. Have visited the city/town before.

wildsprite
07-03-2011, 08:31 AM
It needs these restrictions for all areas:

1. Level 20 on at least one job.
2. Have visited the city/town before.

that is how I thought they would have done it but my friend who reached level 20 but never visited Selbina, Basty or Sandy before was able to use the explorer moogle to go to those places

Khajit
07-03-2011, 12:27 PM
Sounds like you guys forgot the EXPLORATION part of ease of exploration. Kinda hard to explore a place you've been to before if you wanna take things literally.

Zaknafein
07-04-2011, 12:03 AM
What's needed is permanent swift shoes in all areas.

katz
07-04-2011, 02:00 AM
What's needed is permanent swift shoes in all areas.

Its called sprinter shoes from campaign.

I like the earrings from synergy gives them something to do. Hate the fact I can never find someone on to make them. Hate that they are ex rare and cant be bought on the AH. If the moggle route doesnt pan out, at least change the ex rare status so we can buy new ones on the AH. Also hate that they take up more inventory space. Maybe you could give the synergist people the recipe for a multi location transporter earring lol that is sellable on the ah.

Raxiaz
07-04-2011, 02:32 AM
No it's called Talaria from one of the 11 mog tablets you can acquire... ;)

katz
07-04-2011, 03:24 AM
Anyone else know of any other speed shoes, Raxiaz, I wasnt aware of those thanks for pointing them out. We now know of 2 different pairs of shoes.

Tsukino_Kaji
07-04-2011, 05:14 AM
Anyone else know of any other speed shoes, Raxiaz, I wasnt aware of those thanks for pointing them out. We now know of 2 different pairs of shoes.Brd empyrean feet. ^^
Get burnin'!

Miiyo
07-04-2011, 08:05 AM
Amazing that this is a "hot topic." It's 3 areas that don't receive alot of traffic. Why would they take time to worry about something that would affect so few (especially when there IS a way to access them easier. It's YOUR choice if you choose not to utilize this method). Even still, you can hope for them to make grass a little taller. It's your right as a human being. There's so many useless threads on here that it's hard to sort through the ones that are worth reading. SE provided a forum to invite good ideas. They only get ideas lacking any "good."

Khajit
07-04-2011, 08:20 AM
Its called sprinter shoes from campaign.

I like the earrings from synergy gives them something to do. Hate the fact I can never find someone on to make them. Hate that they are ex rare and cant be bought on the AH. If the moggle route doesnt pan out, at least change the ex rare status so we can buy new ones on the AH. Also hate that they take up more inventory space. Maybe you could give the synergist people the recipe for a multi location transporter earring lol that is sellable on the ah.

I made one at lv 2 synergy when spamming one for skillups( i screwed up by not ending synergy fast enough though). It might be really hard to make at low lv but it's not as impossible to make at low lv as you make em sound.

JackDaniels
07-04-2011, 08:33 AM
I already have a Duchy Earring, after crafting one with my measly level 7 synergy. That level alone took me 30 painstaking minutes to acquire. Utilizing the "power-level" method with a behemoth knife, it costed me a good bit of gil just to get 7 levels. Sorry, but I'm not interested in synergy for the solution to my problem. I've looked at it, considered it, and decided that that is NOT how I would like to spend my time in-game.

Wow if you spent all the time that you've been whining and giving stupid suggestions on these forums on synergy, you'd alread have it 30+.