10hrs before I can play????? any way round this?

[Gaurav]

I just brought ffxi the ultimate collection, which is the latest version of the game I can buy.

I go through playonline updates, and now onto ffxi updates, and it gives me an estimated time of 10hrs???

i downloaded the game in 2hrs lol!

anyway to speed this up?

[Soundwave]

Should install while you sleep, play next day.

[Byrth]

Go ask the same question on the BlueGartr Random Question Thread, or look carefully at the FFXI: Advanced forum thread listing.

[Gennadi]

I just brought ffxi the ultimate collection, which is the latest version of the game I can buy.

I go through playonline updates, and now onto ffxi updates, and it gives me an estimated time of 10hrs???

i downloaded the game in 2hrs lol!

anyway to speed this up?


Someone tell SE this is 2011 not 1991. We need modern ways to update our gamefiles. Not wait for dial up like speeds.

[Byrth]

Just to spare you the potential warning, SE specifically prohibits distribution of game files in the TOS.

[Kazen]

Yeah I guess it was. I'm not too concerned about it, I don't really see the huge issue with it; it is their forums so they can do as they feel fit.

Other than doing "other" methods you can always wait until you go to sleep to finish it. If you interrupt the download by stopping it now it'll resume where it left off when you restart it at a later time. Although that's probably not an issue if you have a decent internet connection as the download rate from playonline is so slow usually that you can't even notice that it's downloading.

[Alhanelem]

I just brought ffxi the ultimate collection, which is the latest version of the game I can buy.

I go through playonline updates, and now onto ffxi updates, and it gives me an estimated time of 10hrs???

i downloaded the game in 2hrs lol!

anyway to speed this up?

Not unless you already had the game previously, in which case you can copy the old files over the ones you just installed and not have to spend a lot of time updating.

Unfortunately, Steam doesn't handle updating of MMO titles, it only gives you the data that would be on the disc if it were available in a store. And sadly, that means you have all the expansion's data from the time it was released, which means a ton of updating still needs to be done.

As long as you have a reliable connection though, you can expect that estimated 10 hours to shrink faster than the actual time taken. Most people finish in 6 or 7.

[Habiki]

It would be nice if when they released a new collection or disk if the content was up to date to alleviate having to update files that have already been implemented years ago.

This way you would only have to update if a new update came out, I quit playing on the xbox because of the issues of the game crashing or d/cing and and after crashing or d/cing the disk become unreadable. Having to do a full reinstall and update of 10 years of content every week is a huge annoyance.

Suprised there aren't any get rid of xbox threads, like there are for getting rid of PS2, since you couldn't even do besieged once lvl 7 came out without d/cing at the end and then having to do a full reinstall and update, problem started when microsoft updated the xbox dashboard and ffxi could no longer be saved to the harddrive, even buying a new disk doesn't fix the problem.

[RAIST]

unfortunately, that isn't cost effective with updates coming out several times per month--1 major, then several followups. They'd have to constantly push updated packages to all the vendors online, and let's not even talk about if you were dealing with Pressed DVD's--YIKES!

What they need to do is provide a link to a direct download through a partner (like the main forums they actually monitor and invite to the Developer Q&A's) to push out. This could be a quarterly released ISO used specifically for updating that you download and burn to a disc. Have a link in POL to update from Data Disc and you feed it the burned DVD to update. that way, worst case scenario you would only have 3 months of data to download through POL and not like a whole year's worth.

[Selzak]

Yes- and it's already been posted.

Is it really against the ToS to update manually as some have posted? I can't imagine why that would be the case...


Distributing game files I guess I can understand, but if you're only downloading them you aren't distributing unless you're using P2P software and are sharing.

[Byrth]

3.1 Prohibited Activities:
(d) Any intellectual property infringement or trade secret violation; this includes the unauthorized use, duplication, transmission, display, performance or distribution of any intellectual property relating to the Game or PlayOnline Service, or owned by any third party, or any other commission of any act of copyright, trademark, or patent infringement, trade secret infringement or misappropriation;


2.4 Restrictions.
To the maximum extent permitted by law, you may not: ... (b) rent, lease, sublicense, distribute, or transmit the Licensed Software to any third party;


4.2 Restrictions.
To the maximum extent permitted by law, you may not: ... (b) rent, lease, loan, sell, sublicense, distribute, transmit or otherwise transfer the Software, ... (c) make any copy of or otherwise reproduce the Software

I agree that it's silly that they provide downloads of unpatched versions of the game. It's probably done out of laziness. Still, they put it in all three of the documents people are referring to when they say "the TOS."

[Alhanelem]

Um... yea....

[Ryozen]

I don't think the license agreement actually specifically addresses this situation.
It's frankly amazing that you posted this right after Byrth quoted the appropriate sections of the various forms of ToS.

[Alhanelem]

It's frankly amazing that you posted this right after Byrth quoted the appropriate sections of the various forms of ToS.
It was posted while I was writing my post, actually. I clicked reply but got distracted by something and didnt click post until later.

That said- US law allows for backup/archival copies of software. But you need to have it personally.

[Yarly]

It was posted while I was writing my post, actually. I clicked reply but got distracted by something and didnt click post until later.

That said- US law allows for backup/archival copies of software. But you need to have it personally.

Distribution is a different story, though. Also, the US is not the world. The reality is: there are people from other parts of the world that play FFXI.

[Alpheus]

It would be nice if when they released a new collection or disk if the content was up to date to alleviate having to update files that have already been implemented years ago.

This way you would only have to update if a new update came out, I quit playing on the xbox because of the issues of the game crashing or d/cing and and after crashing or d/cing the disk become unreadable. Having to do a full reinstall and update of 10 years of content every week is a huge annoyance.

Suprised there aren't any get rid of xbox threads, like there are for getting rid of PS2, since you couldn't even do besieged once lvl 7 came out without d/cing at the end and then having to do a full reinstall and update, problem started when microsoft updated the xbox dashboard and ffxi could no longer be saved to the harddrive, even buying a new disk doesn't fix the problem.

actually all you have to do for the 360 to recognize the disc again is to play music from a usb device and as the music plays load the disc and it'll run, it'll then say that data may have corrupted and give you the option to proceed with POL boot up or to do a re-install. Simply proceed and everything should be in working order.

I don't know why this works but it does.

[Saefinn]

Leave your computer or 360 on overnight as suggested. It seems there's no way around it without breaking the ToS. Inconvenient, I know, but it's still quicker than ordering a game from Amazon. :)

[Alhanelem]

Distribution is a different story, though. Also, the US is not the world. The reality is: there are people from other parts of the world that play FFXI.
Of course you need to check your own country's laws. Where did I say that US is the world? I'm not that egotistical or nationalist. If I was acting like the US was the world, I wouldn't have specified "US."

The key word in all of those phrases is "To the maximum extent permitted by law." If your law allows for something that conflicts with the license agreement, your laws trump the license agreement.

[Habiki]

actually all you have to do for the 360 to recognize the disc again is to play music from a usb device and as the music plays load the disc and it'll run, it'll then say that data may have corrupted and give you the option to proceed with POL boot up or to do a re-install. Simply proceed and everything should be in working order.

I don't know why this works but it does.

Well thats all well and good if you own a mp3 player to hook up to your xbox, but it doesn't fix the issue. Shouldn't have to go out and buy one for 100-200 dollars to fix an issue with d/cing or crashing and having to do reinstall + updates. They might as well get rid of the xbox as well since its had issues since its inception and SE and microsoft can't get on the same page to fix these issues. When you call customer service at microsoft or SE they both blame the other, I've even had a rep at SE hang up on me to avoid the issue.

[Alpheus]

It doesn't have to be a mp3 player it can be any USB compatible storage device that can hold a mp3 file, just to clarify it simply can't be an mp3 file found on the 360 hard drive but rather from an outside source that connects to the console's USB.

I do agree with you that it is BS that SE doesn't officially address the issue and by taking no action at all seems to expect their customers to make do with band-aid solutions like the mp3 solution i mentioned and to go out a buy a cheap USB device; cheap or not I understand that it's the principle of the thing to have to go out and buy anything at all: since you have to do it every time the disc magically becomes unreadable.

[Heady]

Or just have both xbox edition discs to boot with. Once you go through the corrupted file screen/restart pol your good, can exit and boot on either disc. Also for some reason I seldom get the disc error / boot fail on my ultimate edition and it usually goes to the pol restart screen no problem. My xbox release edition is just for backup or when the ultimate rarely fails, because if it crashes on the original I *always* get disc error.