[dev1000] Healing Magic Skill up

[Mikumaru]

This is possibly the most difficult Magic to skill . Why ? It's frustrating that i spend hours on WHM (or RDM or SCH for that matter) doing nothing but curing , hasting , removing negative status effects , and reapplying protect and shell to have my Enhancing Magic (erase is an enhancement ? really?) go up 5+ Lvs but never see one healing magic skill up . Even with martial master kupower (if it even affects it) i have yet see a significant gain in skill level .
Every magic skill except for Divine and Healing is well over 325 at this point . I neglect divine , but even when i cast Flash or Holy for Weaknesses i will see a skill up 30%+ of the time (and its usually 0.5 or 0.4 with the occasional 0.9). Is there a secret to Leveling this most important White Mage Skill ? Am i doing something wrong ? why is my Black mage's Elemental Skill capped but my White Mage's Healing magic isnt even over 300 ?

[Economizer]

Hello. I have my Healing Magic capped (My Enhancing Magic is also capped, and I've been working on Divine Magic too. The thing I have issues with is Enfeebling to be honest.) on my WHM. Now while the main thing I did was lots and lots of cure spam in high level parties, alongside debuff removal, but one thing I tried, and had great success with nuking high level undead with cure spells.

Here is a guide for a relatively safe camp in Abyssea you can solo. (http://www.zam.com/forum.html?fjob=1&mid=130265159629177794&page=1)

Use your healing magic offensively, and it will fly up pretty fast, I believe one mob using the guide I linked will get you between 3-5 skillups, perhaps more.

[Bumbeen]

Ignore it, it will cap on it's own eventually.

[Mikumaru]

thnx for the advice . i got some advice on GW that seems to be workin very well . Cure spamming on High Lv Undead . 30 minutes : 5 Magic skill lv , 8 on club , 6 on Shield . Skellys in Attowha .

[Daniel]

If you look at the healing formulas, as long as you have decent cure potency +, your healing magic gains you 1 hp every 13 + levels meaning that the difference between say 100 and 360 skill is only 20 hp. On a spell like Cure V where you can already do 1100 hp that is hardly noticeable.

[Aleste]

^ wat.

The base power on a cure5 varies depending on what region you're in. 5 SKILL often gives you about 1 HP on a cure5.

That said, higher skill doesn't seem to have much of an effect on anything else noteworthy. Unless you're a hardcore WHM looking for e-peen style perfect numbers, then don't worry about it.

[Ganukay]

Healing magic is very useful to me. It may not do much for my cures, but don't forget that higher skills prevent interrupts, which is very useful when pulling/cataclysm'ing mandies, meleeing, and other times when you're getting hit.

[Mikumaru]

my concern with it is more along the removal of Doom from some of the high Lv NMs in abyssea and Voidwatch . Feel like i am not doin my job when tanks are dying from it because i cant remove it . I have found using Apollo's Staff , instead of Surya+2 has a higher chance of removal (duh?) but even then it can still end in failure . We were farmin Glavoid lastnight , i was on SCH and using Apollo i was able to remove when our WHm wasnt (they were using Surya+2) but it still took a few tries . Had some real nail biter moments there lol . the other whm was @ 339 base skill with AF3+2 body (+20) and Sirona Ring (+10) Vs SCH Light Arts 341 . If Apollo is the deal maker its a bit disappointing . but who knows . need moar testing

[Kasandaro]

The thing I have issues with is Enfeebling to be honest.

Dia II. On everything that won't need to be slept. It won't miss. It's driven mine right up.


I have found using Apollo's Staff , instead of Surya+2 has a higher chance of removal (duh?) but even then it can still end in failure . ... need moar testing

It would...make a bizarre sort of sense that Cursna tests for some for of magic accuracy - skill would increase that, and the Light Magic Affinity on the Light/Apollo/2597 Surya+2 would outperform the 2599 Surya+2's Cure Potency. I'm not sure I want to test this though... (And why the rest of the -nas are automatic, I don't know.) I can tell you it's not Apollo's alone. If only.

On topic, though, I have done the schnitters in Attohwa and can verify they work very well. Cycle in Flash for Divine and use enfeebles as well, and have yourself a field day.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Ignore it, it will cap on it's own eventually.That's the reasoning that lead to my healing not capping for 3 years.

[Bumbeen]

That's the reasoning that lead to my healing not capping for 3 years.

Worked for me, probably under 3 months. You must be a crappy curebot!

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I am not a bot anything, I am a whm.

[DebbieGibson]

You ever cast cure!?

[Bumbeen]

I am not a bot anything, I am a whm.

Do you cast cure?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Constantly, took 3 years of heavy sky activity to cap. SKill ups were extremely rare.

[Bubeeky]

I have to agree with Kaji...I've been a career whm across 5 years and the skill ups are just really few and far between unless you're using cure offensively and even then it's iffy at best

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Good 'ol undead spam.

[Aleste]

idk, i remember capping my healing skill back at the 75 cap just through regular use.

Then they increased the rate/quantity at which skill-ups occur, and I've been capped every update...

[Eldelphia]

Healing magic just caps over time if you use it. I don't believe it took you three years to cap at 75 unless you're playing WHM once a week for an hour. It took me less than three months. Healing magic isn't just about cures. Quite a few of our other spells are healing magic too. If you're telling me you've never cast a ~na or a raise then you're definitely doing it wrong. At 90, its a little trickier but it happened for me. The last 5 points were slow but if you actually use your spells you will get it done. I found the schnitter were too slow for me once I reached the 350s - I did a couple of mobs and got bored. It capped during normal events.

I wouldn't moan about Healing magic in comparison to other skills.

[Raxiaz]

Healing magic isn't even noticeable in increased effectiveness at higher levels. Unless you do some serious number crunching.