+1 seals another way

[ShadowHeart]

Well with the introduction of the new KCNM battles u can now aquire seals randomly in the coffers dropped after battle.

The new and upcoming update allows you to destroy chests for cruor so they are able to manipulate chests within abyssea so why not add seals into the chests from parties into abyssea that can be added to lots!! not frequent drops but fairly rare so not everyone has every job done in a day. would give people another way to aquire these seals which SE mentioned there would be new ways to get +1 and +2 items in the first abyssea areas ... they gave us the +2 but not the +1's. So i ma just throwing the idea out there as something that would help people get seals while xp'ing partying feet farming etc...

same as the bastion ops u could make the seals respective to the region head seals in attowha only feet seals in vunkrel only etc etc. just a thought.

[Bumbeen]

If it's easier than salvage drops then it's fast enough already

[Korpg]

Its not hard to get +1 seals now as it is.

I have 41 +1 armors, some of which are +2, including 2 +2 armors for jobs that can't equip them yet.

My mule has 50 different "stacks" of +1 seals of various amounts, ranging from 1 to 9 (depending on the type of armor) just waiting for more seals to get gotten from various NMs that nobody wants.

Its not that hard to get seals at all. Dominion and Bastion gives out too many seals that many just toss. Although I do like the whole "random in treasure pool" idea though, if we could do that in Dominion too....

[Rexen]

I disagree about +1 seals been easy to get. Blue Mage body for example are horrible to get. They made it so easy to get +2 armor, and the +1 head/hands/legs/feet are easy to get, but the body armor really isn't. Could get 9 stones of ardor easily before you even get 1 Mavi seal: body.

Unless you have an infinate amount of gil then body seals are not easy to get.


My mule has 50 different "stacks" of +1 seals of various amounts, ranging from 1 to 9 (depending on the type of armor) just waiting for more seals to get gotten from various NMs that nobody wants.

How many of those are Dancer or Paladin or Blue Mage?

[Wagram]

I don't share your view. The game already has too many options when it comes to +1 and +2 items. Honestly the new +2 items on NMs was completely unnecessary as well. I understand that some things are hard to acquire but the satisfaction in acquiring it is so much better in the end.

[Korpg]

I disagree about +1 seals been easy to get. Blue Mage body for example are horrible to get. They made it so easy to get +2 armor, and the +1 head/hands/legs/feet are easy to get, but the body armor really isn't. Could get 9 stones of ardor easily before you even get 1 Mavi seal: body.

Unless you have an infinate amount of gil then body seals are not easy to get.


My mule has 50 different "stacks" of +1 seals of various amounts, ranging from 1 to 9 (depending on the type of armor) just waiting for more seals to get gotten from various NMs that nobody wants.

How many of those are Dancer or Paladin or Blue Mage?

I neither have an infinite amount of gil nor buy any seals at all.

I have friends who help me, and I help to get +1 and +2 seals, along with all the emp weapons my linkshell has. Its amazing how much you can get done with 4-5 people nowadays.

As for your query, I have 5/5 +1 BLU, including 2 +2 BLU armors (Body and Feet, I'm 1 stone away from +2 legs also). I didn't get the body from NMs though, I got it from a quest.

Also, I have 1/5 +1 PLD, even though my PLD is at level 37. I also have 1/5 +1 DNC, which my DNC is at level 49.

I don't drop any seals at all, unless I already have the +1/+2 armor. What I do is, when my friends and myself fight NMs for seals, any seals that nobody wants, I'll lot, unless I have the +1 already. Thanks to the Mog Storage, my friends have started doing that too, and nobody really cares anyway. Sometimes we give seals away to other people who want to fight the NM we are fighting, depending on how that other group treats us in turn.

Point being, its already easy enough to get +1 seals. Adding any other method to get +1 seals is just pointless, because quests are probably the easiest to get seals from.

[Rexen]

I just think that how some seals are obtained should be balanced a bit more. Jobs which have +1 seals from tier II VNMs in Heroes areas have it easy, all the other +1 body armor is a pain to get and I don't agree that they're all extremly easy to get. Just another thing that's slightly unbalanced in the game imo.

[Greatguardian]

Abyssea grants you an infinite amount of gil. If you are having such significant problems farming Blu body, start a Cruor party with a friend or two (or yourself and a mule, or yourself solo) and turn your Cruor into Gil for pop sets.

[Korpg]

I just think that how some seals are obtained should be balanced a bit more. Jobs which have +1 seals from tier II VNMs in Heroes areas have it easy, all the other +1 body armor is a pain to get and I don't agree that they're all extremly easy to get. Just another thing that's slightly unbalanced in the game imo.

There isn't any NM that drops seals that can't be fought with a NIN, WHM and BLM trio party. Nothing is that hard.

[Zaknafein]

Yeah lets nerf the game even more than it's already been.... shame on you

[Olor]

I wish the seal drops from Dom ops were not so random, but they aren't terrible either. Without farming AT ALL I already have 2 seals for my highest job (BST). I also already have 2 seals for a job I want to level (BLM). It doesn't really seem that difficult to get them. Is it really impossible for you to form a party to farm them?

If it is, then you might need to work up your marketable and or social skills.

I am pretty resigned to the fact that I might need to level whm to have something more to offer small groups - but that's okay. I mean, exp is super fast in Abyssea for a reason.

[Glamdring]

There isn't any NM that drops seals that can't be fought with a NIN, WHM and BLM trio party. Nothing is that hard.

not that I'm agreeing about making seals easier to get (and I need a truckload myself), but it's entirely possible for a player to have neither nin, whm or blm at endgame levels, I play a ton and I don't. Nin I find playing to be about as pleasant as a colonoscopy, whm and blm are on my to do list, but with about 8 jobs ahead of them.

That being said, bst, pup, dancer and thief can solo a bunch of them too. I know plenty or rdm that can solo the +1 stuff, blu owns for the most part, smn and drg (if you know what you are doing) don't really have much to worry about either. I even know a sam and a dark that solo aby NMs fairly well.

[Olor]

Nin I find playing to be about as pleasant as a colonoscopy

Gosh, me too. Props to all the NIN's out there - I can't stand playing it.

[Alhanelem]

They don't really need to make any further changes to this.

[Khajit]

not that I'm agreeing about making seals easier to get (and I need a truckload myself), but it's entirely possible for a player to have neither nin, whm or blm at endgame levels, I play a ton and I don't. Nin I find playing to be about as pleasant as a colonoscopy, whm and blm are on my to do list, but with about 8 jobs ahead of them.


Nin Sj isnt exactly hard to level up if you dont want to be nin main for greelow. Not having nin at 90 is no excuse.

[Sparthos]

I just think that how some seals are obtained should be balanced a bit more. Jobs which have +1 seals from tier II VNMs in Heroes areas have it easy, all the other +1 body armor is a pain to get and I don't agree that they're all extremly easy to get. Just another thing that's slightly unbalanced in the game imo.

What? T2 VNMs are frequently overcamped by people doing Emp trials so I don't see where you're going with that argument.

The body seal NMs pops can be bought off the AH. If you don't have the gil, throw your time at quests or convert cruor to gil. Create a PUG group where everyone brings a set and before you know it, you'll have the 10 seals.

There is nothing more than can be done. It's not hard and only 2 NMs off the top of my head are truly issues to fight in a small party, the Moblin in Grauberg and the Cactuar in Altepa.

[svengalis]

not that I'm agreeing about making seals easier to get (and I need a truckload myself), but it's entirely possible for a player to have neither nin, whm or blm at endgame levels, I play a ton and I don't. Nin I find playing to be about as pleasant as a colonoscopy, whm and blm are on my to do list, but with about 8 jobs ahead of them.

That being said, bst, pup, dancer and thief can solo a bunch of them too. I know plenty or rdm that can solo the +1 stuff, blu owns for the most part, smn and drg (if you know what you are doing) don't really have much to worry about either. I even know a sam and a dark that solo aby NMs fairly well.

I don't know how anyone playing the game right now with so many jobs doesn't have the most important ones leveled. Anyways TC may be partly right about body seals they are harder to obtain then regular seals. Not sure this needs to be adjusted though.

[Fincat]

I disagree about +1 seals been easy to get. Blue Mage body for example are horrible to get. They made it so easy to get +2 armor, and the +1 head/hands/legs/feet are easy to get, but the body armor really isn't. Could get 9 stones of ardor easily before you even get 1 Mavi seal: body.

Unless you have an infinate amount of gil then body seals are not easy to get.



How many of those are Dancer or Paladin or Blue Mage?

Dhorme Khimaira drops BLU body seals like it's his job.

[Ravenmore]

I thrown away a whole stack of blu body seals after +1 my body. If you having problems fighting the NM the quest is really easy and takes all of 7 mins. Got all but 1 seal from it, and that came from a OP.

[Hoshi]

I can't think of a time that dominion/bastion ops gave me a seal I actually needed. I've had far more success in ls and pick-up NM seal farming groups. Regardless of seal you're after there's usually a NM that favors that seal. Make a group to go after that NM and make the seal you're going after reserved: you'll be done with the +1 in one session.

[wish12oz]

I disagree about +1 seals been easy to get. Blue Mage body for example are horrible to get. They made it so easy to get +2 armor, and the +1 head/hands/legs/feet are easy to get, but the body armor really isn't. Could get 9 stones of ardor easily before you even get 1 Mavi seal: body.

Unless you have an infinate amount of gil then body seals are not easy to get.



You're doing it wrong. BLU body seals come from Dhorme Khimeira, which you need for your lvl 90 almace, or your friends 90 kannagi. It shouldn't be difficult to acquire them if you're doing abyssea content right.

EDIT: Maybe I should say how to do it right.
Make 4-8 friends, farm empyrean weapons with them, get everything else you could want on the side as a result of farming those weapons.

[Korpg]

You're doing it wrong. BLU body seals come from Dhorme Khimeira, which you need for your lvl 90 almace, or your friends 90 kannagi. It shouldn't be difficult to acquire them if you're doing abyssea content right.

Thats basically how I got most of my +2 legs. I even have +2 legs for jobs I don't have to 75+ yet.

[Glamdring]

Nin Sj isnt exactly hard to level up if you dont want to be nin main for greelow. Not having nin at 90 is no excuse.

fyi, I have nin at 49, and it's not moving again until all other 19 jobs are 90, fully equiped, all other content in the game is finished, and quite possible the same is true on all 15 of my mules.

[Glamdring]

I don't know how anyone playing the game right now with so many jobs doesn't have the most important ones leveled. Anyways TC may be partly right about body seals they are harder to obtain then regular seals. Not sure this needs to be adjusted though.

bst, brd, thf, dnc and pup, all 90, ranger on the way. I got lots of jobs that get stuff done.

[Khajit]

fyi, I have nin at 49, and it's not moving again until all other 19 jobs are 90, fully equiped, all other content in the game is finished, and quite possible the same is true on all 15 of my mules.

You are a very confused individual(at minimum) if you think that you need to take subjobs to lv 90 in order to use them.

[Korpg]

You are a very confused individual(at minimum) if you think that you need to take subjobs to lv 90 in order to use them.

Think he meant that he doesn't like NIN that much....

[Khajit]

Think he meant that he doesn't like NIN that much....
I know but that doesn't make his statement any less stupid. Nin's role in "endgame" amounts to proccing greelow if you play worth a damn. You have near unlimited mp on the whm. essentially everything can tank when being spammed with cure 6. He is essentially using the excuse that his not having nin 90 makes him worthless in certain situations and he's pretending(?) to not understand the concept of using spells your sj has for certain roles.
Nothing he's saying at all makes any sense outside of pure ignorance or trolling and im inclined to say ignorance.
(red doesn't technically count because nin and war are mostly interchangeable. if war only has scythe and gsword a nin can cover everything else while if a nin only has gkt and katana the war can cover everything else. Even if one of the two main red jobs didn't skillup all of their weapons they can get by at minimum with 2)

[Glamdring]

I know but that doesn't make his statement any less stupid. Nin's role in "endgame" amounts to proccing greelow if you play worth a damn. You have near unlimited mp on the whm. essentially everything can tank when being spammed with cure 6. He is essentially using the excuse that his not having nin 90 makes him worthless in certain situations and he's pretending(?) to not understand the concept of using spells your sj has for certain roles.
Nothing he's saying at all makes any sense outside of pure ignorance or trolling and im inclined to say ignorance.
(red doesn't technically count because nin and war are mostly interchangeable. if war only has scythe and gsword a nin can cover everything else while if a nin only has gkt and katana the war can cover everything else. Even if one of the two main red jobs didn't skillup all of their weapons they can get by at minimum with 2)

where the hell did you get any of that from? I brd/nin all the time for yellow if needed, otherwise I /brd on anything else if in a group. nin is 49 and staying there. my job points is that I have 4 90s that solo well and another 90 that rocks in groups, seals are thus not hard to come by. This was in response to the guy that said if u have a nin, whm and blm you could get pretty much anything. I have none of those at 90 and can still get pretty much anything. that's all I was saying.

Granted, i do have to pick the right NM to pick on if soloing...

[Zumi]

Most seal NMs can be soloed fairly easy just takes time. Its not difficult to shout for members in jeuno and make your own group either if you want to get seals faster.

[Romanova]

If you having problems fighting the NM the quest is really easy and takes all of 7 mins. Got all but 1 seal from it, and that came from a OP.

requoting this simply because I think people tend to forget that you can quest the body seals (as well as OPs). If you don't have the money/friends and want blu body spam these quests:


http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Slacking_Subordinates

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Look_Out_Below

[Coldbrand]

I love how the official forums have devolved into a place for the same two or three posters to bash everyone's ideas in attempt to flaunt their ego constantly over a bunch of minor unimpressive achievements. Great stuff.

[Yarly]

IMO, the game should just check for your jobs and send you the required +1 seals once every conquest.

For example:
If i have NIN WAR THF BLM WHM RDM freshly leveled up in abyssea over one week.
I should be able to just get all the necessary +1 seals for all my jobs (head/body/hands/legs/feet) every Sunday morning after conquest.
It's only fair for those who can't compete against the players who have no lives and play every day to get all their +1 items. ALL I ask for is 42 seals for each of my jobs for free. I STRUGGLE enough to just level my jobs in abyssea for a couple of hours each job and I feel like anyone who goes through that should deserve the seals. It will also make many players come back to the game!!!!

My idea is AMAZING.

[Hoshi]

I love how the official forums have devolved into a place for the same two or three posters to bash everyone's ideas in attempt to flaunt their ego constantly over a bunch of minor unimpressive achievements. Great stuff.

I don't really think they're flaunting. They're telling Rexen that they're struggling with something that is not difficult. It might be difficult to him but a majority of the game population is able to handle most +1 upgrade NMs without incident.

[Korpg]

IMO, the game should just check for your jobs and send you the required +1 seals once every conquest.

For example:
If i have NIN WAR THF BLM WHM RDM freshly leveled up in abyssea over one week.
I should be able to just get all the necessary +1 seals for all my jobs (head/body/hands/legs/feet) every Sunday morning after conquest.
It's only fair for those who can't compete against the players who have no lives and play every day to get all their +1 items. ALL I ask for is 42 seals for each of my jobs for free. I STRUGGLE enough to just level my jobs in abyssea for a couple of hours each job and I feel like anyone who goes through that should deserve the seals. It will also make many players come back to the game!!!!

My idea is AMAZING.

I'm not sure if you are serious or not.

[Yarly]

I'm not sure if you are serious or not.

I'm sure most of the people on this forum will agree with me that this game is too hard for people who have lives. It's bad enough we have to kill ridiculously hard monsters like Bennu for af3+2 gear. I'm saying we should ease the transition and give everyone easier access to some of the "elite" gear that's out there.

[Korpg]

I'm sure most of the people on this forum will agree with me that this game is too hard for people who have lives. It's bad enough we have to kill ridiculously hard monsters like Bennu for af3+2 gear. I'm saying we should ease the transition and give everyone easier access to some of the "elite" gear that's out there.

Still not sure if you are serious.

I have a life outside this game and yet I have 4/5 SMN +2 gear. My friends have 2+ emp weapons and are strongly encouraging me to get mine done.

This game is geared more towards casual players, hardcore people already got their stuff. Let them bask in the glory for being the first to have XX armor/weapon, while within a week I'll have the same thing they do.

[Sparthos]

You're being trolled well.

[Xerius]

Compared to pre-abyssea stuff Empy armor is easy to get but, what is the point of us getting all of those seals that aren't useful to more casual players that don't have 10 jobs leveled to 90 and when you only have a couple of hours to play a night getting the KIs for one run of the +2 items is hard enough.

[Karbuncle]

I love how the official forums have devolved into a place for the same two or three posters to bash everyone's ideas in attempt to flaunt their ego constantly over a bunch of minor unimpressive achievements. Great stuff.

your type post is way more "Devolving" to these forums than anyone having a P***ing Contest about their Armor. At least they half contribute, providing reasons why they disagree. While you just randomly start bashing people for bashing people.


Anyway...

I have 13 jobs to get +1 Seals for, I know as well as anyone how annoying it is to get them. But they are very abundant. I rarely if ever "Seal farm" and I've completed dozens of Emp+1 and Emp+2 (Emp+2 cause of helping people with Empyrean Weapons...), They are not difficult to come by as long you actually focus on doing it.

Friend asked for help on DRK armor, We took 1 night, maybe ~6/7hours (slacking off a lot too :O), and got a friend Entire DRK+1 Set. well, ~2 pieces of +2 because he had them from Empyrean weapon farming.

We are by no means an "Extraordinary" group, We're all pretty tarded, But we just come together and focus on helping eachother.

People Just needs to make friends, Or bite the bullet and shout for people, and really focus on their goals. There needs to be no more methods for +1 armor.

Would i adamantly Oppose additional ways to obtain them? No, In fact adding them to old zones might not be a horrible idea (+1 seals off NMs in zones like (A)Tahrongi). But do i think we need them? Absolutely not.

[Linh]

On Mon-Thurs when I'm off work I usually play for 4 hours before I go to bed.

Fri-Sun when I'm off work I play around 2 PM (when I wake up) all the way to 4 or 6 AM-ish. When I'm eating lunch etc I break and watch Anime instead.

I refuse to visit my family cuz they're a bunch of elitist idiots and it would be time away from FF11.

My friends sometimes nag me to play MTG or D & D with em on my days off but I mostly refuse cuz it'd be time away from FF11.

So essentially, I literally live and breathe RL work and FF11.

And I wholly support the OP of this thread.

[Miiyo]

if anyone is having a problem getting any +1 or +2 upgrade items, there is a simple explaination. Your linkshell's teamwork is horrid. If we focus on getting any one job +1 and +2 of all pieces, it could be done in a few hours with the main amount of time taken be due to moving zones. There's plenty of ways to get seals. The only things you guys haven't asked for is to receive seals for sneezing. I'm sure that's coming up soon tho. You guys do realize if things don't take time to get, you'll have nothing to do after you've done everything in a quick amount of time.