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jamieg
05-20-2011, 01:14 PM
The leecher issue has caused plenty of problem in FFXI. People are leaving the game because they can't level up. Higher lvl players are allowing leechers in and they should be trying to help prevent it. A lvl 70 level cap for entering abys should be implemented. I have a lvl 90 drg that I struggled to lvl up and now I'm trying to lvl my nin and it is stuck at 60 because I can't find a pt anymore. If this continues, me and wife are going to quit the game and find another online game that is better. We may try everquest for all I know.

blowfin
05-20-2011, 01:18 PM
Yes there is a problem.

Making the cap 70 isn't the answer though.


If this continues, me and wife are going to quit the game and find another online game that is better.

Levelling in a duo is probably an excellent way to do it at the moment. Have you not tried this yet?

The term is "keymaster" by the way. Leeching implies you're doing nothing.

rog
05-20-2011, 01:20 PM
I agree with the OP. It is just too hard to level up anymore, because no one wants to exp outside abyssea. We should force them to exp outside abyssea, to make it easier for everyone else, even if that would make life harder for everyone else.

Ravenmore
05-20-2011, 03:08 PM
Just going to copy paste from the other thread about this.



Considering that most people that are key whoreing wouldn't have touch any of the jobs they are leeching. So 65/75 entry would do nothing for low leveling parties outside of abyssea. There were few parties outside of merit parties pre-abyssea. Even then those choose to level sync at 20 and 37.

Runespider
05-20-2011, 03:15 PM
Too far gone, it was an issue when they released Aby but now it's kinda too late to try fix it. People capped out all their jobs that cared, just go solo in FoV.

Amazed Square actually didn't fix it sooner, kinda odd a company would let it's users blast through the leveling process which is the meat of the game. They sure won't add any more jobs or anything else..and if they did we could cap those lightning fast anyway. Hard to sustain a game long-term where they made leveling so fast, while afk no less.

Akujima
05-20-2011, 03:26 PM
Too far gone, it was an issue when they released Aby but now it's kinda too late to try fix it. People capped out all their jobs that cared, just go solo in FoV.

Amazed Square actually didn't fix it sooner, kinda odd a company would let it's users blast through the leveling process which is the meat of the game. They sure won't add any more jobs or anything else..and if they did we could cap those lightning fast anyway. Hard to sustain a game long-term where they made leveling so fast, while afk no less.


Exactly what Runespider just said.

Give people the opportunity to exploit things, and they will to the fullest extent possible. Not everyone does though, and I'm proud to never have Key-Leeched 1 job. I know many others that won't either.

Ravenmore
05-20-2011, 03:27 PM
It was the same at 75. Those that cared for a job already had it at 75 and were not leveling new jobs. The game been top heavy for years so nothing has changed. As others have said they really were banking on FF14 pulling a WoW (yeah I want some of what they were smoking).

Akujima
05-20-2011, 03:58 PM
It was the same at 75. Those that cared for a job already had it at 75 and were not leveling new jobs. The game been top heavy for years so nothing has changed. As others have said they really were banking on FF14 pulling a WoW (yeah I want some of what they were smoking).


And they not only were smoking something, but ate some magical shiitake when they got the munchies too. Because if the same team that's been "improving" FFXI is also giving/getting pointers from the team that's working on FF14... They seriously need to take a step back and try a different approach altogether.

Allowing extreme power leveling? Skip 90% of the games area's/quests/missions... Yea I understand it would appeal to the Veterans, since they already did that stuff, but if you want new players (to stay for long) then there has to be more of a dynamic interesting edge to hook them AND keep them hooked. Just some advice for XIV~

Meyi
05-20-2011, 04:07 PM
The leecher issue has caused plenty of problem in FFXI. People are leaving the game because they can't level up. Higher lvl players are allowing leechers in and they should be trying to help prevent it. A lvl 99 level cap for entering abys should be implemented. I have a lvl 90 drg that I struggled to lvl up and now I'm trying to lvl my nin and it is stuck at 60 because I can't find a pt anymore. If this continues, me and wife are going to quit the game and find another online game that is better. We may try everquest for all I know.

Fixed your suggestion. :D

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Panthera
05-20-2011, 10:40 PM
Considering that most people that are key whoreing wouldn't have touch any of the jobs they are leeching. So 65/75 entry would do nothing for low leveling parties outside of abyssea.
I think your premise is based on a reasonable speculation, but not facts. Was there a poll, or statistics, how do you know this? Sure, maybe someone was leveling a job only because it can be done while afk, but it could just as well be because they didn't get around to it for other reasons; preoccupation with any number of game or real life matters.


The game been top heavy for years so nothing has changed.
There were other events to do other than just Abyssea every day, all day. Leveling was a fraction of the speed it is now, and drop rates of "current" gear went up drastically. FFXI barely resembles the game it was only a few years ago.

Miiyo
05-20-2011, 11:48 PM
Well, I want people to do what I want. I want everyone to use the subscription they pay for to assist me without getting anything for themselves. I want eveyone to dedicate their time to getting all the AF3 and jobs leveled that I want. Since I can't get what I want, I shall randomly choose... eh... Wings of the Goddess. It is due to SE adding WOTG, that I can't have my way. I want to quit now. x.x

That's about how stupid, threads, like this, sound to me.

Not to mention this same thread has been posted at least 8 times before.

Miiyo
05-20-2011, 11:55 PM
I'm proud to never have Key-Leeched 1 job.

Proud of what? What did you accomplish by choosing to grind over not choosing to grind? So you spent more time leveling than others chose to. Congratulations. You win... nothing.

Melodicya
05-20-2011, 11:55 PM
Hello Everyone!

While we appreciate the discussion on the topic at hand, there is all ready one active thread about this topic. So, in the interest of keeping the forums organized we will be closing this thread.

You can continue your discussion here:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/8142-Raise-the-Minimum-Requirement-for-entering-Abyssea-to-Lv70-or-75

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