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Duzell
05-17-2011, 03:12 AM
Please add the Destrier Beret to the list of sendable items, It is unfair to expect us to spend $20 for every character we want to have this hat on the same account. The hat should have been given to all characters on the same account like the charity cap.

For those that don't know the Destrier Beret is a bonus item for buying the ultimate abyssea edition, but when using the code you may only select 1 character to give the hat to. Since the system to obtain the hat is now already in place the only fix is to make it sendable to our alternate characters.

Netheos
05-17-2011, 03:18 AM
Please add the Destrier Beret to the list of sendable items, It is unfair to expect us to spend $20 for every character we want to have this hat on the same account. The hat should have been given to all characters on the same account like the charity cap.

For those that don't know the Destrier Beret is a bonus item for buying the ultimate abyssea edition, but when using the code you may only select 1 character to give the hat to. Since the system to obtain the hat is now already in place the only fix is to make it sendable to our alternate characters.

^^ Signed.

Sydebeheln
05-17-2011, 03:28 AM
Please add the Destrier Beret to the list of sendable items, It is unfair to expect us to spend $20 for every character we want to have this hat on the same account. The hat should have been given to all characters on the same account like the charity cap.

For those that don't know the Destrier Beret is a bonus item for buying the ultimate abyssea edition, but when using the code you may only select 1 character to give the hat to. Since the system to obtain the hat is now already in place the only fix is to make it sendable to our alternate characters.

/Signed ^^v

Vivik
05-17-2011, 03:41 AM
Yes, you should be able to send this hat between characters on the same account.

Jeph
05-17-2011, 03:44 AM
Please add the Destrier Beret to the list of sendable items, It is unfair to expect us to spend $20 for every character we want to have this hat on the same account. The hat should have been given to all characters on the same account like the charity cap.

For those that don't know the Destrier Beret is a bonus item for buying the ultimate abyssea edition, but when using the code you may only select 1 character to give the hat to. Since the system to obtain the hat is now already in place the only fix is to make it sendable to our alternate characters.

/signed
Let us hope.

Bonbonspi
05-17-2011, 04:09 AM
/signed x6
...
by myself and ALL my mules/alts

Registeel
05-17-2011, 05:44 AM
Definitely agreed. I could understand it not being deliverable if it was a reward item like the Nexus Cape that all your characters get, but since this is not the case...

/signed :)

Zyeriis
05-17-2011, 06:41 AM
Definitely agreed. I could understand it not being deliverable if it was a reward item like the Nexus Cape that all your characters get, but since this is not the case...

/signed :)
Which is what the case should be but isn't.

Deadvinta
05-17-2011, 07:44 AM
I sign this.

Francisco
05-17-2011, 11:10 AM
Absolutely.

Signed.

Jile
05-17-2011, 12:27 PM
<Yes, please.> /signed

Ordain
05-17-2011, 03:25 PM
Signed.

Doubt it will make a difference however.

Thoraeon
05-17-2011, 04:07 PM
And why can't people who already bought all the expansions get it automatically? Why not reward your loyal long time customers?

Runespider
05-17-2011, 06:07 PM
Why make a petition, they never work..least of all online ones.

Just make your post and hope that a forum rep sends it on, since that's how this stuff works. Making a petition and being too pushy could indeed have the opposite effect, you realise that right?

Kjara
05-17-2011, 10:23 PM
/signed
Same goes for my Tidal Talisman, and the Recruitment Program rewards too (Timepiece, Mini-Arship, etc.)!

Volkai
05-17-2011, 11:01 PM
Please add the Destrier Beret to the list of sendable items, It is unfair to expect us to spend $20 for every character we want to have this hat on the same account.
You're not spending $20 for the hat. You're spending $20 for PlayOnline, FINAL FANTASY XI Online, Rise of the Zilart, Chains of Promathia, Treasures of Aht Urhgan, Wings of the Goddess, A Crystalline Prophecy, A Moogle Kupo d'Etat, A Shantotto Ascension, Vision of Abyssea, Scars of Abyssea, and Heroes of Abyssea.

The hat is a free bonus 'thank you' for buying the collection.

If you're buying stuff you already have just for a bonus 'thank you' gift, you have only yourself to blame.


For those that don't know the Destrier Beret is a bonus item for buying the ultimate abyssea edition, but when using the code you may only select 1 character to give the hat to. Since the system to obtain the hat is now already in place the only fix is to make it sendable to our alternate characters.
Bolded for emphasis.

This is a bonus. It is not what you're paying for. Only getting it on one character is, I'm pretty sure, something SE intended. It's not broken, so it doesn't need a fix.

Could it use an improvement? Probably. But that's not the same as a fix.



And why can't people who already bought all the expansions get it automatically? Why not reward your loyal long time customers?
Because people who already bought all the expansions get a statue of Prishe automatically. That's a reward for 'loyal long time customers'.

Carth
05-17-2011, 11:43 PM
The only reason why I'm not foaming at the mouth myself is because this only works under level 30.

A lot of my jobs are already over 30 so this wouldn't have much use outside of sync parties. Obviously this is a ridiculously good item (my sister got it when she bought the game and damn, it is really freaken good), but this is obviously meant to make leveling all jobs to 30 easier for new players.

Alcidias
05-18-2011, 12:08 AM
Well, I would actually prefer getting this on my account on which I've already bought Abyssea...but this would still be a great idea.

/signed

ShinChuck
05-18-2011, 12:23 AM
Signing this!

Strikes me as odd it's limited in the first place. In WoW, Rift, and FFXIV, any special items automatically go to every created character on the account. So I can appreciate people's confusion here, it definitely threw me off!

bungiefan
05-18-2011, 03:48 AM
Because people who already bought all the expansions get a statue of Prishe automatically. That's a reward for 'loyal long time customers'.

Except the people buying the Collection also get the statue. They get the extra item, plus the item we get, and they pay less total. It's a slap in the face to people that didn't wait for expansions.

I'm finally leveling melee jobs for the first time, and the increased amount of levels you have to solo, and how you gain levels now much faster than you gain combat skill, makes it very difficult to survive. Not being on a mage job means I can only bring one inexpensive reraise with me, maybe two if I eat a scroll before I leave town. New players get infinite reraise during the solo leveling range, free with purchase. I have to spend even more than I have already (on buying the same thing). It feels like this situation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl67TNDW-0Q

Duzell
05-18-2011, 04:17 AM
Except the people buying the Collection also get the statue. They get the extra item, plus the item we get, and they pay less total. It's a slap in the face to people that didn't wait for expansions.

I'm finally leveling melee jobs for the first time, and the increased amount of levels you have to solo, and how you gain levels now much faster than you gain combat skill, makes it very difficult to survive. Not being on a mage job means I can only bring one inexpensive reraise with me, maybe two if I eat a scroll before I leave town. New players get infinite reraise during the solo leveling range, free with purchase. I have to spend even more than I have already (on buying the same thing). It feels like this situation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl67TNDW-0Q

Actually the situation to me is more like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx46hk93FfU

Netheos
05-18-2011, 05:15 AM
Except the people buying the Collection also get the statue. They get the extra item, plus the item we get, and they pay less total. It's a slap in the face to people that didn't wait for expansions.

I'm finally leveling melee jobs for the first time, and the increased amount of levels you have to solo, and how you gain levels now much faster than you gain combat skill, makes it very difficult to survive. Not being on a mage job means I can only bring one inexpensive reraise with me, maybe two if I eat a scroll before I leave town. New players get infinite reraise during the solo leveling range, free with purchase. I have to spend even more than I have already (on buying the same thing). It feels like this situation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl67TNDW-0Q

As stated in a prior post, you are not paying for the hat when you buy this collection. You are paying for the collection, the hat is an extra bonus. No one is going to debate that some people are going to be angry that they cannot obtain this item because "They are long time Customers" because this item was not intended to be obtained by "Long time Customers". It is to attract new players that need a boost getting to level 30 so they can get a piece of the real action that this game has come to be, which is Abby.

So all in all, everyone please stop your complaining that SE doesn't care about you. If they wanted you to have the item, you would have the item. Most of are you stating you don't even need the item because you are 30+ on all of your jobs anyway. YOU ARE JUST ANGRY SOMEONE IS GETTING SOMETHING YOU AREN'T. Get over it and deal with it.

Duzell
05-18-2011, 05:55 AM
As stated in a prior post, you are not paying for the hat when you buy this collection. You are paying for the collection, the hat is an extra bonus. No one is going to debate that some people are going to be angry that they cannot obtain this item because "They are long time Customers" because this item was not intended to be obtained by "Long time Customers". It is to attract new players that need a boost getting to level 30 so they can get a piece of the real action that this game has come to be, which is Abby.

So all in all, everyone please stop your complaining that SE doesn't care about you. If they wanted you to have the item, you would have the item. Most of are you stating you don't even need the item because you are 30+ on all of your jobs anyway. YOU ARE JUST ANGRY SOMEONE IS GETTING SOMETHING YOU AREN'T. Get over it and deal with it.

Would it harm you in some way if this item could be shared between main and alternate characters? This is just a request that SE change it so those who buy the collection can share it among their main and there alts on the same account, not an unreasonable request. Almost none of us are upset we need to pay $20 for a special item, many people in this thread bought tidal talismans and soundtracks for the limited edition items, we would just like this item, since it is technically tied more to practical use than the others be shareable among mains and alts on the same account.

Reiterpallasch
05-18-2011, 08:14 AM
Signed.

I'll likely never own one. I just don't need it. I only want one (like everyone else that's QQing over how they feel they deserve it. waaah).

bungiefan
05-18-2011, 11:10 AM
Perpspective is what matters, and you'e expressed one viewpoint on the matter, while we have expressed another. How we see it affects how we feel about it, and we see it as paying for that item. There's nothing else we get if we already bought Abyssea, even a day before they announced the bundle. It's an annoying divider. I had a friend start in March, just before the quake, to play with me, and he doesn't get the cap, and he's not 30 yet. So he had to pay full price for Abyssea, and even though he's a "new" customer, people buying this bundle are "newer" and get the item. There should be no line in the sand for an item like this, when just tying it to game purchase. I'm upset because I'm a super-casual player and so I'm "new" when it comes to all but my main job, as well as any friends I brought in recently missing out on it.

Do we want the Nexon-style fees in our game...?

Netheos
05-18-2011, 11:21 AM
Would it harm you in some way if this item could be shared between main and alternate characters? This is just a request that SE change it so those who buy the collection can share it among their main and there alts on the same account, not an unreasonable request. Almost none of us are upset we need to pay $20 for a special item, many people in this thread bought tidal talismans and soundtracks for the limited edition items, we would just like this item, since it is technically tied more to practical use than the others be shareable among mains and alts on the same account.

Man, I was 1rst to sign this after OP. Of course I stand behind the OP's cause. I just don't stand for the complaining about above stated.

Vivik
05-18-2011, 12:25 PM
Looks like all of the whiners came from the old thread to here. Nobody cares if you think you deserve it. This is not the thread for it. This thread is to support allowing us to transfer the hat between characters on the same account. Take that whiny crap back to the other thread and have a pity party.

Zyeriis
05-18-2011, 12:40 PM
Looks like all of the whiners came from the old thread to here. Nobody cares if you think you deserve it. This is not the thread for it. This thread is to support allowing us to transfer the hat between characters on the same account. Take that whiny crap back to the other thread and have a pity party.

Not a thread for the self-righteous "i'm better than you cause I'm complacent" either. Nobody cares what you think.

Edit not directed at the ridiculously self-righteous:
Here's a thought: Why not give it to those of us who already bought the content (like should be the case regardless)...so I don't know...we have a reason to level a job we haven't yet...to give the "new" people this is "supposedly" for...some one to party with...? I don't know, that makes too much sense, forget I said it.

Netheos
05-18-2011, 12:59 PM
Looks like all of the whiners came from the old thread to here. Nobody cares if you think you deserve it. This is not the thread for it. This thread is to support allowing us to transfer the hat between characters on the same account. Take that whiny crap back to the other thread and have a pity party.

/like+10 Thank you.

Netheos
05-18-2011, 01:00 PM
Not a thread for the self-righteous "i'm better than you cause I'm complacent" either. Nobody cares what you think.

Edit not directed at the ridiculously self-righteous:
Here's a thought: Why not give it to those of us who already bought the content (like should be the case regardless)...so I don't know...we have a reason to level a job we haven't yet...to give the "new" people this is "supposedly" for...some one to party with...? I don't know, that makes too much sense, forget I said it.


What aren't you getting about this...THE ITEM IS NOT FOR EXISTING SUBSCRIBERS. It is meant to draw in NEW subscribers. WTF MAN.

Zyeriis
05-18-2011, 01:09 PM
What aren't you getting about this...THE ITEM IS NOT FOR EXISTING SUBSCRIBERS. It is meant to draw in NEW subscribers. WTF MAN.
LOUD NOISES.

Now how does existing customers, who already paid for the content and the monthly fees that keep the game going long enough to be able to release such things in the first place, getting the very same item negatively affect people who don't play the game again?

Panthera
05-18-2011, 01:29 PM
Please add the Destrier Beret to the list of sendable items, It is unfair to expect us to spend $20 for every character we want to have this hat on the same account. The hat should have been given to all characters on the same account like the charity cap.

For those that don't know the Destrier Beret is a bonus item for buying the ultimate abyssea edition, but when using the code you may only select 1 character to give the hat to. Since the system to obtain the hat is now already in place the only fix is to make it sendable to our alternate characters.

Signed and
DOUBLE SIGNED!

Netheos
05-18-2011, 10:02 PM
LOUD NOISES.

Now how does existing customers, who already paid for the content and the monthly fees that keep the game going long enough to be able to release such things in the first place, getting the very same item negatively affect people who don't play the game again?


It doesn't negatively anyone because SE says what it is and the players don't. If the players want to run the company, get a job. If they wanted everyone to receive the item they would. It's just like on FFXIV and the CE Hat, not everyone gets it because they didn't purchase that specific package. It's not SE's fault that you have been playing this game this long and they came up with a great marketing strategy that made their current players jealous of the buyers of this package. You are a number, unfortunately you are not the number that will be receiving this item, that is unless they bend to the "omg i am so angry that I didnt receieve a hat! I have been here forever; since the beginging! Man you guys suck! This game is going in the wrong direction! blah blah blah."

Here is a great tid bit of information to relax that mush in your head. Maybe this will make you realize that you ARE JUST A NUMBER:

All database numbers are from FFXIAH.com and updated frequently:

Total Active Accounts: 300,530
SE Monthly Fee for FFXI: 12.95

300,530X12.95 = $3,891,863.50

3,891,863.50 x 12 (Months) = $46,702,362.00

I would be willing to bet, they could get away without your 12.95. So if you are pissed that you aren't being taken care of as a long time customer, write a letter, lose you account, and GTFO.

Miiyo
05-18-2011, 10:35 PM
they are trying to recover from major financial losses.
I'm pretty sure that FFXI alone has generated enough funds that these "major financial losses" you speak of, are comparable to a commoner losing a dollar. For them to be running FFXIV as an extended beta should say something about how much that "major financial loss" isn't as major as you'd think.

Sure they want the games they produced to succeed and we are fortunate to be in an age that they are trying to communicate with us directly, but no one should get over their heads. They don't owe the players anything.

Volkai
05-18-2011, 10:44 PM
I'm pretty sure that FFXI alone has generated enough funds that these "major financial losses" you speak of, are comparable to a commoner losing a dollar.
You'd think so, but that's because you're not taking into account operating cost. You're looking at the gross value, not the net value.

For them to be running FFXIV as an extended beta should say something about how much that "major financial loss" isn't as major as you'd think.
It's definitely a major cost. But the plan is that eventually FFXIV with its subscription costs will have a large gross income and will eventually net significant profits, as FFXI did and does. But the longer XIV remains free, the larger a hole it will have to dig itself out of.


Sure they want the games they produced to succeed and we are fortunate to be in an age that they are trying to communicate with us directly, but no one should get over their heads. They don't owe the players anything.
Agreed.

sruon
05-19-2011, 12:32 AM
It doesn't negatively anyone because SE says what it is and the players don't. If the players want to run the company, get a job. If they wanted everyone to receive the item they would. It's just like on FFXIV and the CE Hat, not everyone gets it because they didn't purchase that specific package. It's not SE's fault that you have been playing this game this long and they came up with a great marketing strategy that made their current players jealous of the buyers of this package. You are a number, unfortunately you are not the number that will be receiving this item, that is unless they bend to the "omg i am so angry that I didnt receieve a hat! I have been here forever; since the beginging! Man you guys suck! This game is going in the wrong direction! blah blah blah."

Here is a great tid bit of information to relax that mush in your head. Maybe this will make you realize that you ARE JUST A NUMBER:

All database numbers are from FFXIAH.com and updated frequently:

Total Active Accounts: 300,530
SE Monthly Fee for FFXI: 12.95

300,530X12.95 = $3,891,863.50

3,891,863.50 x 12 (Months) = $46,702,362.00

I would be willing to bet, they could get away without your 12.95. So if you are pissed that you aren't being taken care of as a long time customer, write a letter, lose you account, and GTFO.

Your numbers are flawed, FFXIAH still hasn't removed the retired servers, some people are and will be counted twice for 90 days or so, and you're not accounting for account mules either.

bungiefan
05-19-2011, 01:19 AM
Especially now that mules show up on the global AH, so every mule can be counted now.

Netheos
05-19-2011, 03:15 AM
Your numbers are flawed, FFXIAH still hasn't removed the retired servers, some people are and will be counted twice for 90 days or so, and you're not accounting for account mules either.

So mules are on the game for free now? That's interesting. So take away the old servers from the numbers yourself, even take 1/3 of the population and count it as $1. You are still going to be banking nicely. You are still a number.

Volkai
05-19-2011, 03:18 AM
So mules are on the game for free now? That's interesting. So take away the old servers from the numbers yourself, even take 1/3 of the population and count it as $1. You are still going to be banking nicely. You are still a number.

Your numbers are flawed if you assume $13/month for each character, because mules (and secondary main characters) are $1/month. That may potentially alter your numbers by a considerable amount.

Instead of reacting to the statement with snark, why not modify your numbers to account for this? I'd like to see what the numbers are after taking into account the deactivated servers and the first character vs. additional character cost difference.

On a related note, did you actually mean 'Total Active Accounts', or should that have read as 'Total Active Characters'?

Zyeriis
05-19-2011, 03:34 AM
It doesn't negatively anyone because SE says what it is and the players don't. If the players want to run the company, get a job. If they wanted everyone to receive the item they would. It's just like on FFXIV and the CE Hat, not everyone gets it because they didn't purchase that specific package. It's not SE's fault that you have been playing this game this long and they came up with a great marketing strategy that made their current players jealous of the buyers of this package. You are a number, unfortunately you are not the number that will be receiving this item, that is unless they bend to the "omg i am so angry that I didnt receieve a hat! I have been here forever; since the beginging! Man you guys suck! This game is going in the wrong direction! blah blah blah."

Here is a great tid bit of information to relax that mush in your head. Maybe this will make you realize that you ARE JUST A NUMBER:

All database numbers are from FFXIAH.com and updated frequently:

Total Active Accounts: 300,530
SE Monthly Fee for FFXI: 12.95

300,530X12.95 = $3,891,863.50

3,891,863.50 x 12 (Months) = $46,702,362.00

I would be willing to bet, they could get away without your 12.95. So if you are pissed that you aren't being taken care of as a long time customer, write a letter, lose you account, and GTFO.

Where'd you answer the question? Oh right, you didn't because you can't. Going off on a tangent about something else to deflect the question doesn't resolve the question no matter how hard you try. (Not even including your total lack of understanding about net income that has absolutely nothing to do with anything plus the fact that you seem to think they are making quite a good bit of money which is detrimental to your non-existant "argument" in that they are making an even larger grab at money by trying to lure people who have already paid for the content into buying said content yet again. You want to argue that? Then answer the question I popped without deflecting it, which is the heart of the matter that you and a few others seem to dodge at every turn.)

Edit: Oh and we're done with the LOUD NOISES? That's too bad, the yelling made you sound intelligent.

Netheos
05-19-2011, 03:41 AM
Your numbers are flawed if you assume $13/month for each character, because mules (and secondary main characters) are $1/month. That may potentially alter your numbers by a considerable amount.

Instead of reacting to the statement with snark, why not modify your numbers to account for this? I'd like to see what the numbers are after taking into account the deactivated servers and the first character vs. additional character cost difference.

On a related note, did you actually mean 'Total Active Accounts', or should that have read as 'Total Active Characters'?

Went back and did some math,

Took all servers with 5000+ Active Accounts - 247,115

12.95 X 247,115 = 3,200,139.25

Lets just say for giggles that 1/3 Population is Mules.

This would make 82,290 Accounts MULES.

You take this number away from the grand total: 164,825 are paying 12.95 while 82,290 are accounted for $1.

164,825 X 12.95 = 2,134,483.75

82,290 X 1 = 82,290.00

Grand Total = $2,216,773.75
X12
Yearly ~ Total = $26,601,285.00

Sorry, I know there are a ton of numbers right there. The mule percentage is the only number I cannot honestly account for and can be more or less. I am sure we all get the idea though. I don't mean to get angry and fed up, but from a business standpoint as large as SE's, folks we honestly are just a number. And the only way to change the way things go is to not subscribe. You take the money away, you cut the head off of the snake. Some people have it in their head that SE really does care about what you as an individual has to say. Unfortunately, this shown through their customer service base and through decisions made at an executive level shows that this is untrue. Your PoL # is your identity with SE, fitting, you are a number. This isn't Joe's Bakery down the road in your local town, this is an empire that is solely trying to make a buck and will do just about anything to make it.

When I say this, it means, for example:

The new collection: $19.99 US DOL. This includes the all the content up until recently. And also an item to interest players that may be new to the game needing it to catch up to the action. It also attracts existing customers because it creates a NEED/WANT for this item included. They are using a 'Take-Away" Sales method with you as a consumer to entice you to spend more money. With you not being able to occupy this item, they believe they can use jealousy to buy it. More than you could believe in this population will purchase this collection just for the item. And their plan has worked. Not only are they getting the 12.95+ from you but also tack on that nice 19.99 as well.

As a consumer, it is your duty to recognize this when it happens. If you can distinguish your needs/wants better then they can pitch the item to you, you as the consumer wins. Getting angry in their forums is not going to solve anything. Yes, there is a chance someone may read this at some point and say "alright, new plan". But guess what, you are still not getting that item for free consumer. Be prepared to have to purchase this item at a different cost, right around the general range of $5.00. Or if they are feeling generous, may even give you the opportunity to purchase it in game. Judging by the recent statement in the press about losses, this will not happen. This company is looking for ANY chance to turn a profit.

let's discuss.

Netheos
05-19-2011, 03:44 AM
Where'd you answer the question? Oh right, you didn't because you can't. Going off on a tangent about something else to deflect the question doesn't resolve the question no matter how hard you try. (Not even including your total lack of understanding about net income that has absolutely nothing to do with anything plus the fact that you seem to think they are making quite a good bit of money which is detrimental to your non-existant "argument" in that they are making an even larger grab at money by trying to lure people who have already paid for the content into buying said content yet again. You want to argue that? Then answer the question I popped without deflecting it, which is the heart of the matter that you and a few others seem to dodge at every turn.)

Edit: Oh and we're done with the LOUD NOISES? That's too bad, the yelling made you sound intelligent.

I did answer the question, in the first sentence? It doesn't negatively affect anyone.

Sama
05-19-2011, 04:01 AM
This isn't Joe's Bakery down the road in your local town, this is an empire that is solely trying to make a buck and will do just about anything to make it.

This sounds terrible but very true; if that's the case, we should all united and be one to go against SE's stupid marketing tactics. We pay them for their food and shoes. Customer is always #1 and making a win-win situation is your priority!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SE should know it!

I don't know what you are up to, again this is simply a SE's stupid decision, they can just make a +1 version for the n00b and everyone got the NQ hat, then all will be happy.

If i'm not wrong you are one of the players who pay SE for entertainment/joy/gaming, none of us wants to pay and get pissed you need to get that right.

I gave you a 'LIKE' not because I agree with you; you do got a point from greedy corporation point of view.

Netheos
05-19-2011, 04:08 AM
This sounds terrible but very true; if that's the case, we should all united and be one to go against SE's stupid marketing tactics. We pay them for their food and shoes. Customer is always #1 and making a win-win situation is your priority!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SE should know it!

I don't know what you are up to, again this is simply a SE's stupid decision, they can just make a +1 version for the n00b and everyone got the NQ hat, then all will be happy.

If i'm not wrong you are one of the players who pay SE for entertainment/joy/gaming, none of us wants to pay and get pissed you need to get that right.

I gave you a 'LIKE' not because I agree with you; you do got a point from greedy corporation point of view.

I am almost in the same boat, however a little different. I have 3 accounts, all active. I am buying the new collection for 2 of the 3. None of my accounts had the Abby/Scenario content on them. I saw this as an opportunity to save a little money on the Abby stuff as separately they would cost 10/each and I didn't have the scenarios. However, no more than 2 days before they made the announcement of the new collection I was extremely close to paying for the abbys one by one. The only thing that stopped me was a discussion in LS about leeching. I decided I didn't want to be a leech and at least go as high as I could before I couldn't get a regular XP party outside of Abby. Then, viola, new collection shows up.

ah forgot this part. When the abbys started coming out I saw them all coming out one after another, from a consumer standpoint, you had to guess eventually there would be a collection made. That was a few months ago though and I was ready to buy separately as stated above. That kind of goes back to what I was saying about Wants/Needs. I was a smart enough consumer to hold off on getting the items with the impression there would be a better deal when I was more suited for using it.

Sama
05-19-2011, 04:21 AM
Took all servers with 5000+ Active Accounts - 247,115

12.95 X 247,115 = 3,200,139.25

Lets just say for giggles that 1/3 Population is Mules.

This would make 82,290 Accounts MULES.

You take this number away from the grand total: 164,825 are paying 12.95 while 82,290 are accounted for $1.

164,825 X 12.95 = 2,134,483.75

82,290 X 1 = 82,290.00



Based on your assumption: 164,825 ID who is pissed and go purchased the $20 for that hat, that's

164,825 x $20 = $3,296,500.00

So 3.3 million dollars for something you already paid for... Does that sound right to you? I don't think so... I guess you just got caught in the very good timing. Please thing of us who paid full price and before you know, you may be one of us in the very near future.

Netheos
05-19-2011, 04:25 AM
Based on your assumption: 164,825 ID who is pissed and go purchased the $20 for that hat, that's

164,825 x $20 = $3,296,500.00

So 3.3 million dollars for something you already paid for... Does that sound right to you? I don't think so... I guess you just got caught in the very good timing. Please thing of us who paid full price and before you know, you may be one of us in the very near future.

As I can feel the frustration you are experiencing yes for over paying for content now discounted, I am however not suggesting that all of the population goes and buys the new content they already have. I stated that more of the population then we could probably guess will buy the content just for the item.

lol however, could you see the look on their faces at SE if all of the current subscribers did go buy that? OMG that would be terrible. They would all have Grinch smiles on.

Volkai
05-19-2011, 05:57 AM
Based on your assumption: 164,825 ID who is pissed and go purchased the $20 for that hat, that's

164,825 x $20 = $3,296,500.00

So 3.3 million dollars for something you already paid for... Does that sound right to you? I don't think so... I guess you just got caught in the very good timing. Please thing of us who paid full price and before you know, you may be one of us in the very near future.
Look at it this way: 3.3 million dollars of potential revenue Square-Enix loses by giving the Destrier Beret to all existing players.

Netheos
05-19-2011, 06:37 AM
Look at it this way: 3.3 million dollars of potential revenue Square-Enix loses by giving the Destrier Beret to all existing players.

Well said.

Claquesous
05-20-2011, 12:16 PM
I too was very upset when I found out the Destrier Beret didn't go to all of my characters.

SE, please at least make this deliverable.

Duzell
05-22-2011, 07:30 AM
Hey Camate were calling you out, how bout a comment here please.

Zarabeth
11-17-2011, 06:24 PM
/signed it's silly i can't use this on all my characters

blankman42
04-16-2012, 12:26 AM
Completely agree! What a waste of a nice incentive to get ppl back playing when only 1 character gets the item.

Signed

Daniel_Hatcher
04-16-2012, 01:14 AM
It's absurd to begin with, forget being sendable just do it properly and do it so EVERY character linked to a PlayOnlineID gets it.

Krysten
07-11-2014, 05:25 PM
/Signed i would love this!!!

Lordkyron
07-13-2014, 02:41 AM
/signed
i came back and restated the game with a new char and to my surprise my new character doesn't have it.
Square this game is not Old FFXI were we had to eat some crow because we loved the game.
The game has changed and so are the times.
Please allow this.

Raydeus
07-13-2014, 04:38 AM
To be honest I've always wondered why you don't get both a destrier beret and a chocobo shirt for each character you have in your account, and the same thing can be said about all the promo items you may obtain throughout the years.

And it's not like the MHMU system couldn't do it because they have done just that in many occasions before.