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Nezha
05-11-2011, 05:28 AM
Cyranda, we have not met, but I really would love to shake your hand. I do not think you could have summed up my emotions with any greater literary craftsmanship. My name is Nezha and I'm a PUP diehard on Fenrir Server. I have literally played no other job since PUP came out. I have sat through all the false hope SquareEnix has given us, and I even told myself last update that it was okay that SquareEnix forgot about us as long as they had something nice planned, I was willing to wait. But no.... they weaken the job? I'm sorry SquareEnix, but you can take you lame attachments and useless weapon skills back. I have done everything for this job that I can think of. I wasted 2 years of my life getting Kenkonken, I slaved for weeks in Abyssea soloing Verethragnas. And the update everyones been waiting for, that I need not remind you, should have been a long time ago, is just a mere slap in to the face of the entire Puppetmaster community. Burattinaios revolutionized PUP, it was the first time I could solo damage deal worthy foes without needing to use SpiritReaver frame. It finally gave us, the well deserved power to say "the hell with parties and LS events, I can do it and get it myself". To me playing Puppetmaster, was playing a whole different game, so much strategy went into mixing Head and Frame combinations, attachments, and gear, unlike mindlessly spamming weaponskills or magic as a Samurai or Black Mage. I went through all this trouble, to final allow people to see the greatness that "was" Puppetmaster, and for what? Just to be stifled yet again. So yeah, lets bring back the LOL PUPs, and "<Puppetmaster><No Thanks.> I must say not only am I very disappointed with SquareEnix, but I am also on the verge of quitting FFXI for good. Obviously if you thought that your shiny WS and new attachments was compensation, you have a thing or two to learn about Puppetmaster (Did you guys actually test this stuff???) I'm apologize for my blatant rudeness, but after all these let downs this was the straw that finally broke the Automatons back. But I doubt you guys even read these anyways... so much for transparency. In any case, I'm starting a new Puppetmaster LS called FUSE... I'll let you figure out the meaning. Now recruiting... Let the Puppetmaster movement begin.

Ineedmoney
05-11-2011, 05:39 AM
Wish i was on your sever brother i would be filling out a Ap for your LS in a heart beat and i would SHOUT for ppl FUSE LS do you need it for months on end

Xanaduu
05-11-2011, 06:53 AM
from the way the new attachments and WS's work and the burts nerf... i dont think any1 at SE has ever really played the job... if they did they would have made on comment about it atleast on the forums already... but i guess wyvern color and npc placement is more important :/

Miera
05-11-2011, 07:20 AM
/Applaud. That is all I have to say.

I was actually hoping some LS members would help me Convert my T2 and get me those H2H that I obviously wouldn't be able to solo the NM for. But now I wont be needing them anymore since they are broken, I suppose getting the -Damage Taken Magian Trials H2H would be the next best thing for my ValorEdge that I was going to replace for the Burts.

Lyrminas
05-11-2011, 09:01 AM
totally agreed with nezha, i've read of your adventures on talk pages on various baddies and challenges you've overcome. It really makes me angry when I see updates like this, they keep, literally, putting band aids on a gaping wound. Even to this date they only add confectionery fixes that doesn't help the job, ignored blatantly terrible AI, and introduced even more conflicting and terrible WS's ( VE's Ws isn't bad but still ), as well as attachments with incredible collateral requirements for poopstain returns.

I haven't gone as far as your crazy accomplishments and kenkonken, but ever since I lvled pup and discovered this gem in the myriad of jobs, it was a keeper. It has been a road of getting lifted into the air and dropped to the floor on various occasions and the sheer lack of consideration in their recent updates have me /jobemote pup'ing.

What really drives me nuts on this forum is how Garbage concerns get the dev teams utmost attention. It leads me to believe this forum is just for saving face. Every major concern was met with " We can't do that, it would take too much time ". Honestly they're going to lose more than people of the pup community, they're actively rehashing old garbage and slapping fancy names to them. They keep inventing crap content that requires specific 'triggers' that further alienate jobs that didn't have good standing in the generally accepted mob psyche to begin with.

Clearly all knowledgeable and intelligent approaches made, Anza to name a one, have been completely ignored. Core problems with the job simply overlooked on a problem they even claimed was a problem ( The AI ) a while back. What is going on with this dev team? are they cutting and pasting a template, programming a random stat generator on their Iphone, and plugging them into new gear, then googling archaic names of lore for gear names? Everything they have been doing is gungho, up-side-fracking-down.

I'm generally understanding with modifications to the job, I usually am not this expressive on forums as I tend to keep from posting unless necessary, but THIS.... * smashes face into monitor *. I'm also sick and tired of the masochistic people who take it and claim " They're doing their best ". And the sad part is, they're probably listening to you people lmao. I don't know anymore. If nothing changes with the effort of an orderly and peaceful means of persuading the dev team to take a good look at what they're doing. I'm probably gonna be out of faith to stick with the title.

Siviard
05-11-2011, 11:30 AM
Hey Lyrmy.....it's Yeagity....remember me??

Lyrminas
05-11-2011, 01:38 PM
yes, how are you doing :)

Glamdring
05-11-2011, 11:14 PM
not AS angry as you (I just got pup to 83), but even as a new pup I'm disappointed. The burritos thing... a nerf was fine with me as they did seem a bit overpowerred (I was thinking a reduction to 5/tic), but what we got was clearly overkill. More concerned about the AI not being addressed, no dialogue to suggest it ever will be addressed, and the changes doing alot of damage to our attractiveness in parties.

Seriously, the lolpup thing kept pup out of alot of parties for years, but at least it had utility as a soloer. End-game that sufferred a bit, but atma coverred some of that. Along came burritos, making your non-mage pups very viable, and-BONUS-they work in that great big world that doesn't have atma, too. SE has taken that away entirely with their nerf. Burritos now provide 1 extra WS every 100 tics. You'ld be better off with a weap with pet Store TP +6 if I remember the math on TP accumulation correctly. Me, I just started an Emp weap for pet acc/racc since the non-mage pups seem to always be lacking in school. Too bad, I was building for burritos non-mage and my +MAB for mage. At least I have my NPC now to help with the 2nd trial while I level it up.

Get with the program SE, you have ALOT of angry pup players that would like to have a chat with you, but that's hard to do when you are apparently speaking with a deafmute.

Mizuharu
05-11-2011, 11:48 PM
OP, if I was on Fenrir, I'd join your linkshell.

Siviard
05-12-2011, 01:07 AM
yes, how are you doing :)

Pretty good, as I now happen to be on Fenrir with Nezha. :)

Lyrminas
05-12-2011, 03:24 AM
awesome :D, i found out i knew some old friends from valefor on ragnarok so it is lookin good :) other than the update. but they're modifying the attachments in their next update it seems.

Siviard
05-12-2011, 03:36 AM
I can see the Devs now....

"Whose bright idea was it to do Puppetmaster instead of Necromancer??? We should have just gone with Necromancer...."

Dfoley
05-12-2011, 04:23 AM
Meh, i think everyone crying of the burts 'nerf' needs to wake up and smell the roses. Maybe Im jaded cause pre-burts, there were way fewer pups, and it just became bandwagon with burts. An OMG easy weapon to get that instantly took the job to #1 DD, yeah didnt see that nerf coming.

1) When the dat mining first came out, everyone assumed it would be 1 a tic like every other pet regain item (see smn and bst)
2) It would also match the previous weapons we got that added refresh/regen (1 a tic again)
3) 10 / tic was so rediculously over powered it took pup from decent dps, to face smashing every other dd in the game. Frankly, we arent supposed to be number 1 dd by a land slide, we are supposed to be just as viable an option as everyone else.

With the new ws, 10 tp regain would have been retardedly broken. Ripper is already nice, and its being made even better. A PET with a 3k ws...our SP being buffed by the changes to crit dmg.... I mean we got a lot, and they are working to make the useless attachments better.

xbobx
05-12-2011, 04:50 AM
I agree that 10 tp a tick was too much, but like SE always does, they take something ok, or mediocre and make it alot harder to get then equivalent gear from other jobs. See bst axe.

this weapon is supposed to be the elite jse weapon for pup and it is not a good weapon. Look at the other jse weaposn, some of them are very good. This weapon sucks in comparison. This should be 3 tp a tick I think, then it would be balanced.

what I am pissed about is a group got together to do the vnms for magian for victory smite, i stopped because I got burts, now the set is well past done and now will not be able to do.

then you get the anger of all of this and mix THEY DID NOT FIX THE DAMN BUGS THEY ADMIT WERE BUGS FOUR DAMN YEARS AGO......... crap again.

they add new ws and attachments, but of course in SE fashion they F up the weaponskills because they dont like to test, and they F up the attachments because they never think.

mix all that together, of course pups are going to go off the deep end. We are fed up, and they yet to answer the AI question.

Lazus
05-12-2011, 04:52 AM
3) 10 / tic was so rediculously over powered it took pup from decent dps, to face smashing every other dd in the game. Frankly, we arent supposed to be number 1 dd by a land slide, we are supposed to be just as viable an option as everyone else.

With the new ws, 10 tp regain would have been retardedly broken. Ripper is already nice, and its being made even better. A PET with a 3k ws...our SP being buffed by the changes to crit dmg.... I mean we got a lot, and they are working to make the useless attachments better.

But then how are pup's suppose to stand there while they put up a dark maneuver and nothing else and let the automation do the work. /sarcasm. And I have seen a few mention doing just his, don't remember if it was this forum or not.

Actually i agree with you Burt didn't fix pup, basically it made the pup strategy either use nukes (which always been one) or spam wsing. To me pup always been about thinking outside the box and not being like all the other dds. The job is still broe, but burt isn't the "fix" we need or deserve.