R.I.P Burratinaios

[Siviard]

"The potency of the "Automaton: Regain" effect has been adjusted"

So long, Burts......I hardly knew ye.....

[Lushipur]

to all that said pupdate was not a fail....

and lets add this too:

The issue in which improper TP values were occasionally displayed when using the job ability "Tactical Switch" with either a Cirque Scarpe +1 or Cirque Scarpe +2 equipped.

i dont know if 360 tp was better damage or not... i know that was causing a bug with aftermath level 3 not working properly but...

[Daremo]

Woe my daughter, woe my Burattinaios! *wail*, *gnash teeth* *rend clothes*

Eh, I kind of knew it was coming...

[Glamdring]

did they say HOW it was being adjusted? I can't find the original post. Still want mine.

[Miera]

I don't know how it was adjusted, what if its a Hidden or latent effect? ;o

what if it was 5tick instead of 10?

[Etrigan]

Why does SE hate pup so much? It's not like 10TP/Tic regain on these was broken >.>

[Zargosa]

The issue in which improper TP values were occasionally displayed when using the job ability "Tactical Switch" with either a Cirque Scarpe +1 or Cirque Scarpe +2 equipped.

i dont know if 360 tp was better damage or not... i know that was causing a bug with aftermath level 3 not working properly but...

Nah, but if you were /DNC you could get off a waltz or samba and it only used the excess above 300% TP. Otherwise once u did anything to normally gain TP it would reset back to 300%

[Siviard]

If they do it like the BST Pet: Regain Axe (Glyph Axe) it'll only be 1 TP/tic

[Daremo]

Why does SE hate pup so much? It's not like 10TP/Tic regain on these was broken >.>

Of course not, don't be absurd. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlatantLies)



It certainly didn't make Sharpshot an Armor Piercer spewing weapon of mass destruction, if that's what you were thinking. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuspiciouslySpecificDenial)

[Lushipur]

Nah, but if you were /DNC you could get off a waltz or samba and it only used the excess above 300% TP. Otherwise once u did anything to normally gain TP it would reset back to 300%

so ws was still at 300 tp?
i never really tried it...

[Etrigan]

Of course not, don't be absurd. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlatantLies)



It certainly didn't make Sharpshot an Armor Piercer spewing weapon of mass destruction, if that's what you were thinking. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuspiciouslySpecificDenial)


Even if it was throwing out Armor Piercer every 30 seconds, it still wasn't like it was doing 2000 damage in abyssea, much less outside...

Sure inside abyssea if you wanted a normal mob killed faster and didnt care about ruby light let er rip. But on NMs it's hardly a WMD...

[Daremo]

Er... you weren't getting 2k Armor Piercers in Abyssea on NMs?

[Etrigan]

Er... you weren't getting 2k Armor Piercers in Abyssea on NMs?

The few times I got to take pup into abyssea thanks to the whole proc BS I was lucky to get 2k, my regular ws attacks were around 1.5k, all in the atmas you pick I guess...

[Volkaru]

I'm kind of on the way of agreeing to both spectrums here...It was a very fun month while I had them...But we can't really be kidding ourselves. Anyone who has been playing this game long enough knows something's up when you have something that's an insane 10/tic regain...Especially with stuff like Sea Daughter only giving 5/tic for something like 25% slow, that's how much SE cares about their regain balances.

But at the same time...

I also think that the job really does need something like 10/tic, or at least 5/tic to keep going, Unless these new WS are godly amazing SE is going to have a lot of unhappy subscribers on their hands. Because most pups were struggling big time in abyssea, especially with how hard it is to control our automaton to manage in the high speed kind of combat of abyssea. The H2H really helped a lot of people with issues like this.


P.S. And look at how amazingly powerful a lot of the other job-specific lvl 89 weapons are. With stats like you see on some of the other weapons, 10/tic or at least 5 seems within the realm of possibility to still be balanced.

[Lordleo]

I sure hope its an upgrade, just got the weapon not even couple weeks ago and was solo'n some rather difficult nm's w/ my valor frame with ease... granted took me 30-40 mins to kill said nms but I was feeling proud to be a main pup. But yeah w/ sea daughter and burts 15 tp/tic may just be overpowered in their eyes.

Side note to previous comment, you can't compare this to bst's glyph axe or w/e its called. lvl 77 weapon vs 89... and bakka (i think i can't remember what drops it) is just a laughable nm compared to the t3vnm that drops these.

[Bhujerba]

my first reaction I laughed... well, that's explain the new TP Attachments.
No AI adjustments xD , I was hoping they put it under issue segment (ofc it's probably working as intended!) on version update or general job adjustments with traits changes and such..


who still hoping for a ninja fix? anyone?

Edit: - possible ninja fix:
these old attachments were listed under new items alongside the new ones from data mining which means possibly been adjusted:
Coiler
Flashbulb
Hammermill
Replicator
Shock Absorber
Steam Jacket

Possible Items adjusted:
Animator +1

Edit 2:

New item:
Deluxe Animator: An improved version of the animator. Boasts vastly simplified operation over the standard model.

[Robban]

new regain seems to be a sad 1/tick ; ;

[Faule]

Such a massive amount of fail.

[Daremo]

My world, she is crumbled...

[Bhujerba]

wow lol

Such a massive amount of fail.
from 10 to 1 , not 5 or 3 or even 2... its now equal to level 77 bst weapon...

LOLPUP! (I know we are still in decent position but still...cant help it)
I think when we said AI must be broken because its acting stupid, we probably insulted their intelligence..

[Drac]

To confirm, Yes it's 1 tp / tic regain. /toss

[Faule]

I feel incredibly violated. D:

[wolfshadow]

This is...unacceptable...how far does it need to go to demonstrate that you hate pups SE? ; ;

[Miera]

I guess I was wrong to look on the brighter side of this.

/ragecutsself.

[Siriso]

why can't they ever leave well enough alone....

[Niyariko]

Big disappointment on this nerf , SE should just delete pup and say...

"Is our mistake to release this job, pup will be deleted on the coming version update, please look forward to it. In compensation to players who took this job to level 90, we will offer you an earth crystal, please check your delivery box."

[Lazus]

Big disappointment on this nerf , SE should just delete pup and say...

"Is our mistake to release this job, pup will be deleted on the coming version update, please look forward to it. In compensation to players who took this job to level 90, we will offer you an earth crystal, please check your delivery box."

If they did that they will have to unbreak the mail system first, lol.

[Xanaduu]

lol... general discussion forum has a post about abyssea npcs being in heavens tower and how pple hate it... and guess what! they got a dev response!! *starts pouring the gasoline*

[AyinDygra]

I don't think this needed to be changed. Really.

The Burattinaios is a weapon with fixed stats that will dwindle down to inferiority when compared to new Pup weapons that are certain to come out as we reach level 99 (and beyond.) Sure, this may still be the all-time best automaton-centric weaponskill weapon in certain situations, but those Puppetmasters who never upgrade from this weapon will fall behind on the master's side which, in recent years with gear upgrades, has become a signifigant consideration. I'm pretty sure Verethragna will be upgradable beyond its current stats and will overcome the power of Burattinaios.
(A similar weapon existed for Monks: Destroyers, which held its own against the Spharai for a long time)

Looking at it in the big picture sense, it's certainly a powerful weapon, but it won't always be the best even at 10/tick regain. A more sensible nerf (I'm only suggesting this because they think it was necessary) would be to make it only 5/tick regain. This is still powerful, but it would also become outclassed in the future.

[Dohati]

yeah, i was so sure it was gonna be at least 2TP/tick. i flipped multiple tables upon the discovery it was only 1TP/tick.

[Dfoley]

Dohati begins to cast raise III on "a dead horse".
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The spell was only partially affective.

So um, did you quit after getting burts then come back 3 months later?