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InspectorGadget
05-04-2011, 10:34 PM
Walk of Echoes needs to make some updates in order for it to become a more attractive event. One of the main reasons why people do Walk of Echoes is to complete an Empyrean Weapon Skill weapon in less time that it would take to complete a full-fledged Empyrean Weapon. However due to competition and limits placed on entering Walk of Echoes, it can actually take MORE time to complete a WoE weapon! Here's some improvements that should be considered:

1. Lessen or Remove the waiting time between obtaining a Kupofried's Medallion. Being able to only enter once per game day only needlessly delays a player from obtaining a weapon they are trying to finish.

2. Increase droprate of Coins significantly. Too many times participants are spending 45minutes to an hour fighting only to come away empty handed. Currently the droprate of coins is anywhere from 1 in every 3 to 4 kills. This is too low and droprates should be increased to at least 2 per monster and 5-6 per Boss.

3. Lessen or Remove the 30 minute waiting period between battles each Conflux. After a Battle, waiting aroung doing nothing for 30 minutes while you wait for the Conflux to open again only needlessly delays a player from obtaining a weapon they are trying to finish.

4. Ability to use Abyssea buffs and Atmas inside Walk of Echoes.

5. More battlefields. Right now only 6(?) battlefields are open, and only 1 of them can be completed with a small group. Having more battlefields that can be finished with a smaller group of members can help ease competition as well as make it faster for everyone to complete their weapons.

Leonlionheart
05-04-2011, 10:54 PM
The only idea here I agree with is 1. Lessen or remove waiting time, and 3. Lessen or remove the 30 minute waiting period between running the same conflux.

There's no point to that stuff :[

But the drop rates are already very high for coin sacks after winning any of the higher tier conflux's.

It would be bad to make these weapons TOO easy to obtain, because quite frankly some of them are significantly better than relics inside abyssea. (Revenant Fists +2 come to mind, Maschu and Badelaire may also be considered better for DPS, along with Harrier and Bedlam, but some of those are a long shot.) However in comparison to Carabosse/Cirein-Croin and Briareus/Sobek, Coins are actually harder to get. (Carabosse is a huge joke, CC even more so.) Some balancing should be done, but seems like it would be too complicated to do at this point in the game.

Having atma and cruor buffs in WoE is suuuuper lol and a horrible HORRIBLE awful idea.

More battlefields sounds cool though, but not really needed just for making WoE weapons, since you can already make them relatively quickly with the right know-how. Other gear maybe? or future expansions to the weapons?

Miera
05-04-2011, 11:19 PM
I would actually go back to Walk of Echos because there are some items you can get from there that are pretty decent such as the Fugacity Beret and Mantle

Atma maybe over kill some confluxes can be pretty much low manned, I'd take it if you could use one or two atmas instead of all three or just Cruor Buffs.

If i am not Mistaken I have also seen people Proc red on The Slime mega boss before and i thought I was going crazy but other people confirmed they witnessed it too which is weird, does that even help you get things in WoE? What does it all mean? I still don't understand the zones fully.

I'd like them to fix the mobs where you don't need to Sacrifice pull, I know they have stated they fixed behavior but I haven't noticed it much, also I think they should add more items to the Zones maybe add stones/Cards/Coins/Jewels and even seals to make people want to play in it more?

InspectorGadget
05-04-2011, 11:26 PM
It would be bad to make these weapons TOO easy to obtain, because quite frankly some of them are significantly better than relics inside abyssea. (Revenant Fists +2 come to mind, Maschu and Badelaire may also be considered better for DPS, along with Harrier and Bedlam, but some of those are a long shot.) However in comparison to Carabosse/Cirein-Croin and Briareus/Sobek, Coins are actually harder to get. (Carabosse is a huge joke, CC even more so.) Some balancing should be done, but seems like it would be too complicated to do at this point in the game.

I hear ya on that, however, thats a whole 'nother issue that can also be fixed. Even when the cap was 75, I had never seen, for example, Metatron Torment outdamage a well equipped Raging Rush. Adjusting the Damage formulas for the Relic weapon skills to be on par or better than Empyreans is something thats definitely past due.

But back on topic, some other minor things that could or could not work:

6. The ability to sell or trade coins. However we actually WANT people to do the event for the weapons instead of just being able to buy em on the Auction House.

7. The ability to trade unwanted Coins for a Coin of your choice, have a Goblin NPC in the back of Walk of Echoes have the ability to trade, for example, 2 Coins of Ruins (nobody ever wants those, the only weapon that uses them is Staff and Mages in the front line meleeing has been frowned upon since the game began), for a single Coin of Glory, and so on and so forth.

8. Higher tier Coin pouches from the higher tier confluxes.

Dooom
05-05-2011, 01:43 AM
Isn't WoE already getting a make-over in the version update, or did I dream that?

Eri
05-05-2011, 02:36 AM
Yes an update is Planned but NOT in this Update.

As of atm i Like WoE the way it is
Sure its not like you get you Weapon incredibly fast... and its not ment to be fast...

1. If you happen to enjoy WoE then do a Weapon!
2. If you happen to want a Weapon but dont like the Event or want it faster, buy some bad Weapon and stop moaning.
3. If Woe is to Hard for you move on to 2.

Theres a WoE on the scedule Plan but it will not happen until Autum.
I'd wish for some NPC that warped ppl from Port Jeuno to WoE and back,
more ppl in the fight more fun! Hell WoE aint exp loss its pure fun <3
Mabe free RR items to everyone? lol


On the Other hand i CAN see a slightly increased droprate would befit ppl maybe BUT then again, ppl would come get Drops and leave WoE....
a few would stay since its fun to them so.... rather have an event that keeps ppl at it then a short time thingy.

Im earning my Coins for my third Weapon atm and its fun. The Weapons are Bonuses to that WoE fun and i dont see any Issue with it as of now...
Other then not a lot ppl doing WoE since its to hard for them, but theres also ppl that like a Challenge. And WoE can be a Challenge and Fun! Why change things so and make them casual? Helps Killing the Event hihihi
I guess i'll just say: Deal with it!

Enjoy WoE till then.

Fincat
05-05-2011, 03:42 AM
How about you just remove the stupid and annoying cut scene everyone has to sit through EVERY time we enter? That would be delightful.

svengalis
05-05-2011, 04:28 AM
Add atmas and abyssite to WoE all problems solved.