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DoctorWho
05-08-2011, 11:38 PM
To be fair, a lot of people do seem to be missing the fact that the Abyssea trio item is a Prishe Statue that we WILL get even if we bought them separately. So it's not paying another $20 for something you paid $30 for already. The hat is an item for buying the entirety of FFXI. SO paying another $20 for something you've paid more than $100 for...

That being said... it really puts me in mind of this commercial. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl67TNDW-0Q

Yopop
05-09-2011, 02:45 AM
{True Strike}

This is the funniest thing I've seen in these threads and very accurate.




That being said... it really puts me in mind of this commercial. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl67TNDW-0Q

bungiefan
05-09-2011, 04:11 AM
That being said... it really puts me in mind of this commercial. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl67TNDW-0Q

And that issue in that video is exactly why those of us that are upset in this thread feel the way we do. Newer customers are being treated better than those of us that have been supporting the company for a while, at higher prices. That situation is probably the simplest way to show it.'

The statue is just a slap in the face since it is much less useful. It only gives one furniture storage space, at the cost of a safe space, so it reduces accessible inventory in all but one town by one slot. With the previous add-ons, everyone got a useful item regardless of how they bought the add-ons. Now the useful item is reduced to new people (or those that want to spend an additional fee on top of the already full-price expansions) getting it.

JensenM
05-09-2011, 09:04 PM
When I bought the Vanadiel collection, I didn't get any type of special item. No big deal though.

Volkai
05-10-2011, 12:59 AM
Well as someone who just restarted a couple months ago AND bought all the Abyssea expansions, I feel totally stabbed in the face by this. I only have 3 jobs at 30 or higher - so this would be incredibly useful but I guess my business isn't wanted.
Is it that you have one job you usually stick to, or did you buy all the Abyssea expansions before you could utilize them? If the former, then you don't really NEED the hat -- but if you want it you can buy the expansion. If the latter, then why did you buy the add-ons before you could use them?

I feel I should take this opportunity to point at that it's really no surprise that SE has released a collection after the latest add-on set was completed. They did this with the Ultimate Collection after ACP/MKD/ASA was finished. And is it really any surprise that they're offering an extra incentive to buy the new collection? I don't think so.

Volkai
05-10-2011, 01:01 AM
So you're happy with people jipping you out of your money?

And how is it our fault that they failed on FFXIV? But you seem to think it's okay for us pay for their mistakes, all the while we get trash dumped on FFXI and it's player base.
How are you getting jipped? Nobody's forcing you to buy a new collection that gives you nothing but a hat that's only useful (beyond being a costume item) below level 30.

Ajuk
05-10-2011, 01:03 AM
Hmmm. I would have to say that a HUGE part of this bonus for newer players is simply because not ALL veteran players are friendly or helpful. My THF was levelled mostly solo apart from short bursts durning level ranges 15-20, 30-35 and then 60-65. Sadly, most older players just don't want to help bring people up to speed - have lost count of the times where I've heard people complaining that there's no BLM/Tank/DD about when there are at least 40 of that job in the same area, just at a lower level DESPERATE to get their class up high enough that they CAN actually join that.

... I'm just sayin', is all... chill out! This hat is obviously a very clever ploy to help us all out in the long run! Although - yeah, I'll probably buy it just for the Chocobo outfit xD

Volkai
05-10-2011, 01:04 AM
I won't cry at night for not having a hat, but it's incredibly stupid that I'm not allowed to get it because I bought the same stuff before they offered the cookie to encourage people to do the same thing I've done already. It's just really upsetting, it doesn't make any sense.
Except you are allowed to get it. You have to shell out twenty bucks for it, but that's not the same as saying you can't get it. Furthermore, it's exactly the same as what a new player has to shell out to get it.

Heck, if you wanted to you could buy it, use the hat code on your account, and give the registration code to a friend, perhaps someone who buys a used (i.e. no registration code) copy of FFXI for the XBox 360. Then you have your hat, your friend gets to play FFXI for cheap(er), and SE has twenty bucks plus another thirteen a month. Everybody wins.

Enki
05-10-2011, 05:48 AM
I think a lot of you are missing the point.

Sure, they could have just put up the beret code for microtransaction sale in their store for $20. Would you be less upset by this, seeing as you're not rebuying a bunch of expansions you already have?

If you haven't noticed, there's been a big influx of players returning to the game that haven't played for 1-5 years. Most of my LS just returned with me from WoW cause we've been bored lately. Some players I haven't been able to convince because they either don't want to get back into FFXI (crack) or they just can't afford to buy the game again (unsurprisingly, the economy is still bad). Some want to play but haven't been motivated to buy the box set.

And here's where this deal comes in handy. Most of us already have all three abyssea expansions. Some of us even purchased not one, but two abyssea addons (the equivalent price of this collection) this past week because we wanted to play THEN and not wait until the 16th. Now, some of them will use the collection to give us the hat and the last abyssea expansion they need. The rest of us can buy the collection, keep the hat, and then give our reg code for all the expansions to another friend who was thinking about playing with us. They'll be more motivated to rejoin us, and we'll be happy to have another LS member back. I'd venture they're more interesting in pulling back old addicts than truly new players...and these old addicts truly do know how nice that hat is if they have to start completely over.

Things go on sale. Especially MMOs and their expansions. You bought the expansions when you wanted them and used their content, probably because you didn't want to sit around LFG all day for obsolete content that no one is actually grouping for any more, or you didn't want to spend 1-75 sitting around in dunes and Qufim looking for a group (then comes the fun part of soloing Kindred's seals and crests). Some of us bought as late as last week because we wanted to play together, and that was worth more than saving $20.

It's all what it's worth to you. If the hat is not worth $20 to you, don't buy it. If you want to give your reg key to a friend who's thinking of playing, maybe split the cost between the two of you?

If you want some kind of customer loyalty system that rewards how long you've been paying or playing, take a look at City of Heroes loyalty rewards and suggest something like that in a new thread. This hat really has nothing to do with it and is just a perk intended to entice the maybe 3 new players that are looking at the game and the 10,000ish who would consider returning.

Edit: The guy above me gets it!

RushLynx
05-10-2011, 06:30 AM
lol, this whole thing reminds me of little children bickering over something entirely irrelevant... it's hilarious...

Here's the thing people, the item is obviously designed to get people to start playing, or attract the tons of players that quit the game over the past years for one reason or another, and make it easier for them to level without much help so they can quickly get up to par with the rest of the community... it's a marketing strategy, one that literally EVERY market takes advantage of whether you want to acknowledge it or not...

For the love of god, act your own age and stop whining. Waaaaah, he got a shiny star sticker and I didn't! I WANT A SHINY STAR STICKER TOO! ::stamps foot and pouts::

Zyeriis
05-10-2011, 06:49 AM
lol, this whole thing reminds me of little children bickering over something entirely irrelevant... it's hilarious...

Here's the thing people, the item is obviously designed to get people to start playing, or attract the tons of players that quit the game over the past years for one reason or another, and make it easier for them to level without much help so they can quickly get up to par with the rest of the community... it's a marketing strategy, one that literally EVERY market takes advantage of whether you want to acknowledge it or not...

For the love of god, act your own age and stop whining. Waaaaah, he got a shiny star sticker and I didn't! I WANT A SHINY STAR STICKER TOO! ::stamps foot and pouts::

I love these posts that are so full of wrong and "i'm more mature than you, hahah!"

I don't see you trying to give a reason why we, who have already bought the things, do not receive the hat, and I never will cause you can't see what's not there. Only thing I see are the reasons why the hat is useful, thanks for pointing out the obvious.

RushLynx
05-10-2011, 08:03 AM
I love these posts that are so full of wrong and "i'm more mature than you, hahah!"

I don't see you trying to give a reason why we, who have already bought the things, do not receive the hat, and I never will cause you can't see what's not there. Only thing I see are the reasons why the hat is useful, thanks for pointing out the obvious.

As I said, it's a marketing strategy... If you really want the item -that- much you're more than welcome to fork over another $20 to obtain one for yourself... otherwise you can do without, it's entirely unnecessary that you have one... And a good many people can't even take advantage of this item's latent effects any longer because they've already leveled their jobs above 30... As such, the item also serves as a costume piece for collectors...

At least they aren't like Blizzard, who regularly comes out with in-game items for real-world money... and has an entire card game structured around the idea that you may come across a special card in a booster pack with a code that can be exchanged in game for a worthless costume piece...

Olor
05-10-2011, 08:11 AM
Is it that you have one job you usually stick to, or did you buy all the Abyssea expansions before you could utilize them? If the former, then you don't really NEED the hat -- but if you want it you can buy the expansion. If the latter, then why did you buy the add-ons before you could use them?


I bought the expansions after getting my first job to 30 because I wanted to start accumulating stones. I have one job at 66, one in the 40s and 1 at 30. I plan on using a lot of my other jobs too.

At first I only bought the one expansion but then my LS started talking about doing some more activities in Aby so I picked up the others so I would be prepared. I still don't think I should be punished for paying more for Abyssea...

Draakoan
05-10-2011, 09:38 AM
My only real problem with them doing things like this is simply this, ur most dedicated fans buy the expantions and add-ons the day they are available and begin exploring and enjoying them. Its fine to try and make it easier for new people to get into the game and offering collectors edition bonus'. But it doesnt seem right to not give ur dedicated fan base the same gift if they have already paid and used the expantions. At the very least u could make it a buyable item ingame for the people who have had the expantions and would like to have the item/items. Just my thoughts.

Didgist
05-10-2011, 10:08 AM
Take away everything you've earned on your account since Abyssea came out and replace it with the Berret. Still feel cheated? Just level yourself a pocket WHM if you need the hat so bad. Oh yes, erase all your stones too. You paid for a huge head start compared to people who will be buying the expansion now and will have nothing to show for it but a hat that is worthless to half of the community.

I agree it's good marketing (ie: Corporate money scheming), but thinking a hat is worth more than how many months of access to the content is absurd.

In before stones are easy now, Abyssea is easy now, and everything else is easy now. Getting to 30 on all jobs has been easy since before the USA release.

Didgist
05-10-2011, 10:15 AM
At least they aren't like Blizzard, who regularly comes out with in-game items for real-world money... and has an entire card game structured around the idea that you may come across a special card in a booster pack with a code that can be exchanged in game for a worthless costume piece...

Not to mention WoW is what, 120 dollars for the full game? That's with a discount too.

bungiefan
05-12-2011, 10:23 AM
Is it that you have one job you usually stick to, or did you buy all the Abyssea expansions before you could utilize them? If the former, then you don't really NEED the hat -- but if you want it you can buy the expansion. If the latter, then why did you buy the add-ons before you could use them?

Buying Abyssea before you could use it would allow you to start gaining stones stockpiled for when you could use it. Also, buying expansions at launch is habit for anyone playing on PS2, since Collections were rare and expansions went out of print a month or two after release.

Tsukino_Kaji
05-12-2011, 10:25 AM
While you're at it, you can give everyoen the items that were given out at Vana'fest and not just the individuals that have access to tokyo. lol

Bhujerba
05-12-2011, 10:51 PM
does anyone know if the item can be sent to mules?

Volkai
05-13-2011, 01:44 AM
I still don't think I should be punished for paying more for Abyssea...

You aren't being punished. You simply aren't getting an extra reward. There is a difference.

Secondplanet
05-17-2011, 12:06 PM
as for my wifey and myself we're both disgusted over the fact that like most of the people have said, the loyal players who have bought each and every expansion at full price are left without.

This isn't a marketing ploy to get you to give them more money, this is to save from the loss known as FF:XIV and we're still paying SE for not going over to it and staying on FF:XI. The more we dish out to SE for these things the less of a loss they can claim on that repulsive game.

Until SE actually says they are attempting to make a real update for XI i personally think all money made from this game is being dumped into XIV. Pull the plug on XIV not the PS2 of XI lol.

JackDaniels
05-17-2011, 12:14 PM
as for my wifey and myself we're both disgusted over the fact that like most of the people have said, the loyal players who have bought each and every expansion at full price are left without.

This isn't a marketing ploy to get you to give them more money, this is to save from the loss known as FF:XIV and we're still paying SE for not going over to it and staying on FF:XI. The more we dish out to SE for these things the less of a loss they can claim on that repulsive game.

Until SE actually says they are attempting to make a real update for XI i personally think all money made from this game is being dumped into XIV. Pull the plug on XIV not the PS2 of XI lol.

Yeah.. xiv is pretty bad.. even with all the new changes. And you are exactly right, this is kind of a last hurrah, they are going to make every penny they can off of ffxi

Akujima
05-17-2011, 12:17 PM
Not to mention WoW is what, 120 dollars for the full game? That's with a discount too.

Yea but those in game items are just for fun, and don't have amazing stats. It's a completely separate thing from when you purchase the expansions. It reminds me of RMT. But instead of gil, they sell you in game items that you can get nowhere else.

And WoW has more Class(Job) balance than FFXI, and it has PvP that people actually participate in.

While we're on that topic, why haven't they update Ballista/Brenner to make PvP more appealing?

Volkai
05-17-2011, 08:57 PM
While we're on that topic, why haven't they update Ballista/Brenner to make PvP more appealing?

Because there's no money in it.

Secondplanet
05-17-2011, 09:15 PM
I think the comment on SE now being the RMT is more true then anything else i can really say, making us pay real money to get a new helmet that will help with leveling any other jobs we want to dabble in isn't right, just like that new skill-up ring that is from the brown chests, something everyone wants/needs.

SE needs to stop worrying about fixing 14 and start refocusing on XI to fix some big issues, not rehashing old content. Its like throwing a stick for a sick dog to chase, makes him happy to get attention but not really taking care of the problem.

Volkai
05-17-2011, 09:55 PM
I think the comment on SE now being the RMT is more true then anything else
SE doesn't spam you with /tells
SE doesn't camp NMs to sell the drops (both Rare/Ex and otherwise)
SE doesn't undercut items on the AH, then jack prices way up once nobody else is selling
SE doesn't deflate the value of gil by selling tons of items to NPCs
Oh, and SE doesn't sell you gil for cash, either.

Pretty sure SE isn't looking very much like RMT.



i can really say, making us pay real money to get a new helmet that will help with leveling any other jobs we want to dabble in isn't right,
SE isn't making you pay real money to get a new helmet, either.

This is what you pay money for: PlayOnline, FINAL FANTASY XI Online, Rise of the Zilart, Chains of Promathia, Treasures of Aht Urhgan, Wings of the Goddess, A Crystalline Prophecy, A Moogle Kupo d'Etat, A Shantotto Ascension, Vision of Abyssea, Scars of Abyssea, Heroes of Abyssea.

This is what you get for free as an extra 'thank you' for purchasing the new collection: A reward code to give one character on an account a Destrier Beret.


If you buy PlayOnline, FINAL FANTASY XI Online, Rise of the Zilart, Chains of Promathia, Treasures of Aht Urhgan, Wings of the Goddess, A Crystalline Prophecy, A Moogle Kupo d'Etat, A Shantotto Ascension, Vision of Abyssea, Scars of Abyssea, Heroes of Abyssea without actually having any need for any of it, just to get an extra 'thank you' for purchasing the new collection then you have no one to blame but yourself.


just like that new skill-up ring that is from the brown chests, something everyone wants/needs.
Nobody needs that. You might feel you need it, but you don't. That's just impatience speaking.

Don't get me wrong, it's a nice item. But it's a want, not a need.


SE needs to stop worrying about fixing 14 and start refocusing on XI to fix some big issues, not rehashing old content. Its like throwing a stick for a sick dog to chase, makes him happy to get attention but not really taking care of the problem.
What? No. SE needs to worry about fixing XIV because they need it to be good enough to charge subscription fees for it. Even though it will never be the fiscal powerhouse they had hoped for, there are a lot of people playing it for free right now, and if they can get the game to the point where most of those players will pay subscription fees for it, then it will eventually break even and turn a (likely modest) profit.

Dropping FFXIV, dropping PS2 support, neither of these will substantially increase the development time devoted to FFXI or remove the 'PS2 limitations' from the game.

PS2 limitations, such as they are, are tied into the way the game was made, the way the server code was made. Dropping active PS2 support does not remove the limitations that were written into the code when it was made in first place.

If SE drops FFXIV as a failed project, they are much more likely to send that staff to a new project than they are to send them back to FFXI. You get a lot more money out of a successful new game launch than you do out of a modest increase in subscription fees from a nine-year-old game.

svengalis
05-18-2011, 01:09 AM
Is there a way to get helm without redownloading the game?

Volkai
05-18-2011, 01:25 AM
Is there a way to get helm without redownloading the game?

Kinda-sorta-not-really.

Steam requires you to at least start installing a game to access your 'CD Key' (Registration and Reward codes.)
If you already have a retail version of FFXI installed, even starting this process and immediately pausing it will cause your registry entries for FFXI to be altered from your retail version to the steam version.

At this point you have two options: 1) uninstall retail version, uninstall steam version, reinstall steam version;

2) copy your entire PlayOnline folder ( C:\Program Files\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\ ) into your Steam folder ( C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\ffxi\SquareEnix\ or C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\ffxi\SquareEnix\ ) and then launch POL and use the Check Files command before logging into your POL account to run a file check/error fix on both POL and FFXI. The file check and error fix will take quite a while, but it's still much faster than reinstalling and patching, and you should keep all your macros (but you want to back them up before you do this anyways.)

The better option is to get your registration or reward code off of a computer you don't have FFXI already installed on. That avoids having to deal with registry fun times.

Iamcanadian
05-18-2011, 01:50 AM
Is there a way to get helm without redownloading the game?
buy it from direct2drive and it will give u the codes without that crappy steam software.

bungiefan
05-18-2011, 03:36 AM
Is there a way to get helm without redownloading the game?

Buy the game on Amazon and view the key in your web browser.

Treefiddy
05-18-2011, 03:53 AM
Well, I've already voiced my displeasure on this forum about having to shell out 20 bucks in order to get this item. I will reiterate my opinion that everyone who has previously purchased all 3 Abyssea add-ons should be able to receive this item at no extra charge. The Prishe statue is cool and all, but anyone who buys this new collection gets that too. To force us to buy this new collection in order to receive this item is a slap in the face to long-time players such as myself. Just because I've played for 8 years doesn't mean I have all jobs over level 30. This item would be very useful to me so I don't want anyone responding to me asking why I'm bitching about a useless item. It's the principle of the matter. On top of all this it's only available on PC?! This is ridiculous. My Dad purchased the last collection for Xbox when the world merger was scheduled for March. He wanted to play with me on Siren, but was prevented from creating his account due to the postponement of the merger. Now that his account is created (after spending his money and sitting on a useless game for months), this new collection comes out and he can't even get it! He would benefit greatly from this new hat as well as being able to get all 3 Abyssea add-ons. His only choice is to buy each one individually at 10 bucks, and another 20 bucks to get the hat. I am so angry with you right now SE. This is a slap in the face to long time players as well as new players on Xbox who would benefit greatly from this collection. So congratulations on ripping off my dad who is a brand new player. 20 bucks for the last collection he couldn't even use for months, 30 bucks more for all 3 Abyssea add-ons, and another 20 in order to get this hat that would be awesome for him as a new player. So 70 bucks? Really guys? You could at least offer this collection for download on the Xbox with the free hat. How hard is that? SE you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Sama
05-18-2011, 04:17 AM
SE please don't destroy the earth just sell the god damn hat for $20 if that's what you want. Making all that plastic disks and packages for some old discounted content is not environmental friendly (of course you can download but I met they made 20k hard copies).

And you should know it, most of us already got the 3-abys so what you are doing is asking for another $20 but you are making it like it's a new fresh stuff for the others with all the advertisement.

Also what's the logic behind this I just don't get it. You can simply make an +1 version of the hat, with little stat increase (i.e. latent last up to level 35), for those who buy the package now, and give us the normal one then everyone will be happy.

I'm very disappointed.

Netheos
05-18-2011, 05:19 AM
As stated in a prior post, you are not paying for the hat when you buy this collection. You are paying for the collection, the hat is an extra bonus. No one is going to debate that some people are going to be angry that they cannot obtain this item because "They are long time Customers" because this item was not intended to be obtained by "Long time Customers". It is to attract new players that need a boost getting to level 30 so they can get a piece of the real action that this game has come to be, which is Abby.

So all in all, everyone please stop your complaining that SE doesn't care about you. If they wanted you to have the item, you would have the item. Most of are you stating you don't even need the item because you are 30+ on all of your jobs anyway. YOU ARE JUST ANGRY SOMEONE IS GETTING SOMETHING YOU AREN'T. Get over it and deal with it.

Sama
05-18-2011, 05:30 AM
So all in all, everyone please stop your complaining that SE doesn't care about you. If they wanted you to have the item, you would have the item. Most of are you stating you don't even need the item because you are 30+ on all of your jobs anyway. YOU ARE JUST ANGRY SOMEONE IS GETTING SOMETHING YOU AREN'T. Get over it and deal with it.

Everyone is upset of SE's failed decision and direction not just over this stupid hat which only works up til level 30. I assume, even they make it for everyone, may be only part of the population will have it obtained.

The problem is, SE no longer makes win-win decision and keep on making, especially those 'old people', relatively angry and disappointed.

bungiefan
05-18-2011, 07:58 AM
His only choice is to buy each one individually at 10 bucks, and another 20 bucks to get the hat

Actually, no. If he buys the Collection for the hat, it includes all 3 Abyssea expansions. He's already downloaded them if he's up to date, he just has to add them to his account with the code. The PC code will work on a console. Add-ons are installed for everyone when they are released, they just aren't enabled until you buy the code. So $30 for the previous collection + $20 for the Abyssea bundle means he spends $50.

If I hadn't bought Abyssea to max out just one of my jobs when they were all released, I'd see this as a good deal, but as it adds nothing new except the hat, which can't be obtained any other way, and more than half my jobs are under 30 (never leveled a melee job, only mages) it's annoying. The video link posted the previous page or so explains the viewpoint succinctly.


As stated in a prior post, you are not paying for the hat when you buy this collection. You are paying for the collection, the hat is an extra bonus. No one is going to debate that some people are going to be angry that they cannot obtain this item because "They are long time Customers" because this item was not intended to be obtained by "Long time Customers". It is to attract new players that need a boost getting to level 30 so they can get a piece of the real action that this game has come to be, which is Abby.

So all in all, everyone please stop your complaining that SE doesn't care about you. If they wanted you to have the item, you would have the item. Most of are you stating you don't even need the item because you are 30+ on all of your jobs anyway. YOU ARE JUST ANGRY SOMEONE IS GETTING SOMETHING YOU AREN'T. Get over it and deal with it.

See the YouTube link posted a page or two ago. Infinite Reraise on a lowbie job while stuck in the extended soloing levels is nothing to scoff at. Now that you don't jump into a party at 12-13 anymore, you tend to solo to 30, and for a completely different job than you've ever played before, you're not going to have the combat skills to keep up easily.

Volkai
05-18-2011, 10:10 PM
New XBox360 players can start with a simple solution here:
1) buy used version of either FFXI Collection 2008 (FFXI2k8) or FFXI Ultimate Collection (FFXIUC)
2) buy FFXI Ultimate Collection - Abyssea Edition (FFXIUCAE) on a computer
3) install FFXI/RotZ/CoP/ToAU/WotG on XBox360, launch POL, begin process to create new account
4) use FFXIUCAE Code to create POL account, and again to register FFXI/RotZ/CoP/ToAU/WotG/ACP/MKD/ASA/VoA/SoA/HoA.
5) Create character (use a Gold World Pass if you know someone that's already playing.)
6) Use Reward Code from FFXIUCAE, give Destrier Beret to newly created character.

Cash cost estimation:
FFXI(+RotZ/CoP/ToAU) used from Amazon: $4.00
WotG used from Amazon: $6
FFXIUCAE new on Steam: $20

Total: $30 (plus shipping)

That sounds about right to me.

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...My Dad purchased the last collection for Xbox when the world merger was scheduled for March. He wanted to play with me on Siren, but was prevented from creating his account due to the postponement of the merger. Now that his account is created (after spending his money and sitting on a useless game for months), this new collection comes out and he can't even get it! ...

Your dad can use the new collection, because registration codes are (as far as I know) not platform-specific.

The XBox360 collection he bought is not wasted, however, because you still need a disc to play on the XBox.

Invadaru
05-19-2011, 11:11 AM
:mad::mad:
IF U DON'T FEEL BETRAYED BY SE VIA THIS REALLY HOT HAT DONT POST DONT READ AND GO PLAY. that being said im so mad i could beat the retard who decided since i payed 30 bucks for 3 addons and not 20bucks for everything i dont get this game changing hat. im madder than a skin head watching the jeffersons. watch SE wont give us this hat but will continue to pay lip service but do nothing, and make the game less fun by charging for somthing we bought with hard earned money just cause a new in game hats included. japan had a natural disaster i get that ppl who donated got a charity hat magian moogle looking hat. im american we are in resession moneys tight and we still pay for these add ons and the game fee. bottom line SE give us this hat cause u know we deserve it or dont and show you dont care about the loyal players and we will know not to show u any loyalty in return. theres many other MMORPGS released besides that horrible ff14 flop we can always go to those see if they value our time/money better cause i know u obviously have some kinda grudge against us 11 players. (ONE REPLY FROM A COMMUNITY REP FOR 29+ PAGES OF TOPIC SHOWS MY POINTS VERY VALID JUST LIKE MY CREDIT CARD)
if u didnt get it i want this hat if its not provided i promise i will quit cause im sick of bring punished for loyalty by traitors. "nothing personal its just bussiness"? its personal to me
:mad::mad:

Akujima
05-19-2011, 11:39 AM
LOL I wonder how long the post above lasts

Randwolf
05-19-2011, 11:56 AM
:mad::mad:
....
:mad::mad:
I'm not happy about the hat thing. But, dude, WAY OVER THE TOP!

Volkai
05-19-2011, 12:34 PM
SQUARE ENIX PROVES MONEY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN MAKING US HAPPY

SquareEnix is a publicly held company. It exists as a business entity to make money for its shareholders.

Therefore, yes, money is more important than making customers happy.



Except, you see, there's one little thing: game companies make money by making games that make people happy. Happy enough to buy said games, anyways.





If having the Destrier Beret makes you happy enough that you're willing to pay $20 for it, then SE has successfully performed their duty to their shareholders.

If a new player who was on the fence about purchasing the FFXIUCAE has been swayed to buy it thanks to the Destrier Beret, then the SE employees who determined the method of its distribution have done their job.

Treefiddy
05-19-2011, 02:35 PM
Can anyone confirm if you can buy the new collection on PC and then activate Abyssea on Xbox? I called SE and they told me I couldn't do that, but who knows if what they say is true or not. Before I waste my money, anyone please let me know if you have done this before. Do they send you the actual Abyssea registration codes to use or can you only download the game to the PC? Any help is appreciated.

Volkai
05-19-2011, 08:58 PM
Can anyone confirm if you can buy the new collection on PC and then activate Abyssea on Xbox? I called SE and they told me I couldn't do that, but who knows if what they say is true or not.


I can think of no reason why you wouldn't be able to use the registration code on the XBox version -- although you would need an XBox game disc to install everything on your XBox and to actually launch the game.

Worst case, even if you have to use POL on PC to register everything, you would still be able to then use your POL account (and by extension your FFXI account with everything registered on it) on the XBox version.


Before I waste my money, anyone please let me know if you have done this before. Do they send you the actual Abyssea registration codes to use or can you only download the game to the PC? Any help is appreciated.
WHat you are sent is a single registration code that, if used on an existing account, will register all expansions, add-on scenarios, and battle area add-ons available at the time of this posting. Including (but not limited to) all three Abyssea add-ons.

However, the install data is PC-only, and (at least for the steam version) you have to begin the downloading process to view your registration code. (You don't have to fully install it, but it has to begin, which will affect any retail FFXI you have installed, and may mean you can't view your registration key on a Mac.)

But really, even if you don't have a PC of any sort, you could borrow a friend's or go to a LAN cafe that has (or will allow you to install) Steam, have it downloading FFXI for 30 seconds, look at your registration key, cancel the download, and you should be set.

Raksha
05-20-2011, 01:45 AM
Has anyone been able to buy a European version of this somewhere other than steam? Since I'm in the US steam wont let me buy an EU game, /sigh.

EDIT: or does anyone have any tricks to create a European steam account?

Treefiddy
05-20-2011, 04:36 AM
Thanks for the info. I'll give it a shot.

Raksha
05-21-2011, 10:47 AM
Has anyone been able to buy a European version of this somewhere other than steam? Since I'm in the US steam wont let me buy an EU game, /sigh.

EDIT: or does anyone have any tricks to create a European steam account?

No one? /sad

rog
05-21-2011, 10:57 AM
No one? /sad
Use a proxy.

axlzero
05-22-2011, 04:20 AM
buy it get the code out of box and enter it in get item then put the disc on shelf next to wow and other games you bought that never play cause your on this game like crack

Raksha
05-22-2011, 04:30 AM
buy it get the code out of box and enter it in get item then put the disc on shelf next to wow and other games you bought that never play cause your on this game like crack


If you're replying to me, then you should know that this collection doesnt come in a box And an american code wont work with a european game (I had to buy an EU + NA version of WotG for example)

Raksha
05-22-2011, 07:46 AM
Use a proxy.

Using Tor to create a swedish account still results in the same error. Suck less SE/Steam.

EDIT: looks like POL was updated with a couple of european places to buy, so guess i'll just use one of those.