Why not add a way to buy rainbow mog pells?

[Chromium]

With the addition of the character change service, there is now a way for a player to buy an account activation that allows an NPC to recognize that purchase in the game.

This could be a way to sell mog pell rainbows to players.

Given inflation being the way it is and Square Enix obviously being upset about that, this would be a way to add an additional optional revenue source to the game. Could even add more items to it.

Yoshida was complaining about inflation in regards to ff14 and then being more reliant on the cash shop than the sub now, cause of how much value it has lost over the years.

[Fahzewn]

Please. No cash shop for XI. Extra revenue or not, I enjoy that this game is not an overly marketed costume party that you can buy your levels/story progression with.

Also, XIV likely equals more money to sustain than XI (if we are looking at separating the games and not as one CB3 entity), so the sub (+mules, +wardrobe, +server change, and now +race change along with limited employees working on it) is likely more than enough.

[Alhanelem]

because they were given out for specific reasons and because YOU DON"T HAVE TO COLLECT EVERY ITEM EVER MADE.

Seriously, the game was NOT designed as a collect-a-thon and there is no reward at the end of the rainbow if you were somehow able to get literally everything.

[Chromium]

Please. No cash shop for XI.

Inflation is a serious issue for a game with a set fee that has not increased in 23 years, in effect the game loses money every year compared to the last, and the costs to run it are constantly rising. Normally it's pretty small but since Covid it's been out of control.

I made this post because I read Yoshda talking about ff14 and how important the cash shop is for that game, due to global inflation. They even stated they don't want to be forced to increase the sub, and only the cash shop allows them to not have to do that.

XI has a smaller population, as the game becomes less profitable due to inflation they just start reducing the size of the dev team (they literally already did that 2 years ago. The problem with this is A) demoralization of those who remain and B) they can't make content even comparable to what came 3 years ago cause there are less people making it

This creates a spiral that damages the game, and reduces content for the thing you're putting 20-30+ hours into a week.

I don't want a standard increase in sub, so suggesting optional items that you can already get in other ways should not be a problem.

Expecting a company to not rises prices inline with inflation isn't customer greed, usually it's just ignorance to how inflation works. However being against them finding ways to offset inflation is incredibly dumb, and counter productive if you care about the thing existing. For instance mog wardrobes among other things are why the game is still running, and the management didn't already pull the plug.

[Alhanelem]

Inflation is a serious issue for a game with a set fee that has not increased in 23 years, Well they haven't increased the fee because their costs on this game are quite low. There are only a handful of developers on staff and if they need more, they borrow them from other teams. So they are profitable enough despite not having changed the fee.

[Chromium]

This is a post made about FFXIV by Yoshi P, who is also directly in charge of XI funding.


POST ABOUT FF14:

Some may say that Square Enix is to blame for trying to make money by demanding that players spend extra on optional items. We operate our servers and data centers twenty-four hours a day, three-hundred-sixty-five days a year with the hope that our players can enjoy a reliable gaming experience. Currently, global inflation is taking its toll at a rapid pace, driving up server electricity costs, the cost of land, and even the price of servers themselves. We do not want to increase subscription fees for players, if at all possible─but keeping our game running requires sufficient income. If we start creating a deficit, FFXIV may no longer be able to operate. This is an example of damage dealt to the services we provide.

[Alhanelem]

This is a post made about FFXIV by Yoshi P, who is also directly in charge of XI funding.
1) At the very beginning of the post is a request not to cut snippets or summarize it, because cutting parts out eliminates a lot of the context which you have also eliminated from the post.

2) The post was about the implications of modding and the negative impact certain mods were potentially having on their revenue (among other things).

3) None of that post has anything whatsoever to do with XI

4) As I said above, XI has far lower operating costs and thus less need to have things like a cash shop etc.

5) because XI has far lower operating costs, they've been leveraging it to increase revenue with the XI crossover raid and the resulting interest getting some people to try XI, particularly with the incentive of occasional discounts on the XI sub fee. Clearly this has had at least a modest impact because XI player activity has increased and XI's highest pop server got closed to character creation and server transfers.

[Chromium]

A game having lower operating costs is irrelevant, if it has less money coming in (btw most costs of running xi are shared with xiv, including server staff, electric and gm steams etc).

It's the same, just with bigger or smaller numbers.

If a game making more money can't even function without a cash shop, that means a game with less players and less money coming in and that hs the same price sub has even more problems dealing with constant inflation cost rises.

Also, added to this: due to how SE operates, the money XI and XIV brings in is not a lump sum but is initially split between 3 regional operations. The money NA, EU and JP bring in goto each region (SE Japan, SE NA, and SE EU), to the point the EU version (for example) may not even be a viable product if not for it being fully attached to XIV and counted on all finance reports as being XIV.

[Alhanelem]

A game having lower operating costs is irrelevant, if it has less money coming in (btw most costs of running xi are shared with xiv, including server staff, electric and gm steams etc).It's not irrelevant, if the costs are lower, the bar to make money is also lower.



If a game making more money can't even function without a cash shop, that means a game with less players and less money coming in and that hs the same price sub has even more problems dealing with constant inflation cost rises.You are heavily misreading this. This post doesn't in any way imply they are close to losing money and mods are just completely breaking the bank. They're simply trying to communicate that the mod in question was damaging to their profits- not that it was going to bankrupt them. You are making a false implication that the online FF games are in some kind of financial danger and that is simply not the case.

They don't need to be in financial peril to be concerned about a mod that discourages people from using the Online Store.

[Chromium]

He specifically states the game can't run without the cash shop, due to inflation.

He literally says he would have to increase the subscription without it, or the game may not even be able to continue. FFXIV has hundreds of developers, its costs are incredibly high.

I know you have a pathological desire to argue just for the sake of it, and I make allowances for the way you are, but you're wrong and inflation is a big deal and they do need to constantly find ways to counter it in order to keep both games profitable.

[Alhanelem]

He specifically states the game can't run without the cash shop, due to inflation..
That's literally not what he stated. You're taking snippets out of context from the post, which is exactly what he cautioned against.



I know you have a pathological desire to argue just for the sake of it,This is literally false.


and I make allowances for the way you are It's not the way I am, and I don't want any "allowances" from you or anyone.

I discuss topics with passion because I care about them, I don't "argue for the sake of it" at all. You don't have to like me or my posts, but any claim that I'm here purely to argue and troll is completely and totally false. I'm here because FFXI (and FFXIV) mean a lot to me, I care about it, and I enjoy talking about it. All opinions given by me are sincerely held opinions and not just bait statements to stir trouble.



He literally says he would have to increase the subscription without it, or the game may not even be able to continue. FFXIV has hundreds of developers, its costs are incredibly high.He listed EXAMPLES of how mods can damage their service and profitability. He did not say they were ACTUALLY planning to increase prices or considering shutting down the service.
EXAMPLES. EX. AM. PLES. You are framing this as a statement that SE's MMO division is actually in some kind of financial trouble when it's not. Do you think they'd be offering discount programs and sales if the games were in such dire straits? No. Yoshida is only saying that mods like the one they sent a C&D letter to are damaging to their operations and please don't make or use them. The entire post was about mods. You are reading beteween the lines, just like you do with FFXI lore, to suggest something they aren't saying.

[Beastorizer]

They really don't need to add a cash shop imo.

Login rewards can act as a cash shop. If they actually put good stuff in the login rewards, folks would fork over $12 to get them.....Even if they don't play often. It is the novelty.

Example, VII fans who don't even play XI would purchase and try XI if, idk.....A Barret trust was available or something.

I downloaded and played the MMO Crystal of Atlan just to get the Digimon collab summons........Have not played the game since......Will if they add something else which interest me.

Novelty.

[Dwreck]

I support a cash shop if it means they make new lockstyle items for it that are quality pieces! If the stuff looks bad I wouldn't buy it though

[Alhanelem]

They really don't need to add a cash shop imo.

Login rewards can act as a cash shop. If they actually put good stuff in the login rewards, folks would fork over $12 to get them.....Even if they don't play often. It is the novelty.

Example, VII fans who don't even play XI would purchase and try XI if, idk.....A Barret trust was available or something.

I downloaded and played the MMO Crystal of Atlan just to get the Digimon collab summons........Have not played the game since......Will if they add something else which interest me.

Novelty.
So are you saying you want something like a battle pass?

[Fawkes]

I wouldn't mind if they did reruns of the merch that came with one.