Abyssea and returning BST

[Tym]

Hi all ! I'm a BST 64 just returned to the game and was wondering what do i do in Abyssea, party, solo, ect.? I have read up on it but can't seem to find a BST soloing thread in Abyssea or if it is even possible at lvl 64. Any info would be greatly appreciated ! Thank you fellow bsts in advance! :D

[Morgantisthedon]

well I have no clue where you can even solo in abby that low ... you most likely will wind up leaching or "key whoring" till you are higher. One good pt will rock you to 90 and you will be able solo all kinds stuff then prob grab some sheep or w/e in case u need pet pull laterish. But ya i dont think that low you can contribute much in abby other than opening boxes.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Nothing you can do in Abyssea at that level except open chests or leech.

[Xilk]

The only way to solo at that level would be if you already have really good atma and you were in a visions zone.
Otherwise you need levels first.

(edit: grrr forums on mobile makes for poor spelling problems)

[Glamdring]

only mage jobs are effective at your level in Aby. Later? an entirely different matter. Once you have gotten your 3 Atma abyssites and some of the better Atma you will find that bst can solo SOME content or do well in a party. The problem is, beast does not have the native capacity to get the correct light balance for sustained Time extension chests. Honestly, only red mage, blue mage and a fully skilled pup can do that. You will also need higher end gear to solo effectively, and to get your skills up. Empyrean weapons are pretty much a must-have as well. You can-if you find a group-get bestia gear (level 87, gained by trophies) to tide you over until you get the AF3 +1 (note than without at least the +1 your AF3 is NOT good gear). Relic/AF1 +1 and/or the stuff from the expansion packs is worthwhile as well.

Honestly, without knowing more about where you are makes it hard to comment intelligently. Get your skills up, and get used to working with jugs and the "ready" command instead of sic; once you hit Abyssea your charming days are over for the foreseeable future.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

only mage jobs are effective at your level in Aby. Later? an entirely different matter. Once you have gotten your 3 Atma abyssites and some of the better Atma you will find that bst can solo MOST content or do well in a party. The problem is, beast does not have the native capacity to get the correct light balance for sustained Time extension chests. Honestly, only red mage, blue mage and a fully skilled pup can do that. You will also need higher end gear to solo effectively, and to get your skills up. Empyrean weapons are pretty much a must-have as well. You can-if you find a group-get bestia gear (level 87, gained by trophies) to tide you over until you get the AF3 +1 (note than without at least the +1 your AF3 is NOT good gear). Relic/AF1 +1 and/or the stuff from the expansion packs is worthwhile as well.

Honestly, without knowing more about where you are makes it hard to comment intelligently. Get your skills up, and get used to working with jugs and the "ready" command instead of sic; once you hit Abyssea your charming days are over for the foreseeable future.

Fixed that for you. :)

[Tym]

Thanks guys!! I am just returning so i am assuming just lvl up the old school way unless i leech in Abyssea . Thanx again for clearing things up for me! ohh on a side note , I didn't know there was a "Ready" command i will look it up! thnx :)

edit: LOL duh just remebered what command "Ready" was lol been a long time :rolleyes:

[Glamdring]

Thanks guys!! I am just returning so i am assuming just lvl up the old school way unless i leech in Abyssea . Thanx again for clearing things up for me! ohh on a side note , I didn't know there was a "Ready" command i will look it up! thnx :)

edit: LOL duh just remebered what command "Ready" was lol been a long time :rolleyes:

leech or old school is a personal choice. Since you play beast one assumes you are comfortable soloing; good thing since finding a mid-level party is not all that common. My personal preference is old school, at least to 75. After that, burn to 90 in Abyssea (1 or 2 good Ops parties will get your there) and then recap skills working on your Emp weapons and seal farming. The AF3 +2 really is worth it, and it's probably powerful enough to carry you all the way thru the 99 cap they plan to reach. Although Twilight body set for RR3 is superb for a soloer as well, and beast can wear it.

You will want to find a source for the end-game jugs, some are just stupid expensive on AH. If you've got the cooking/synergy levels yourself, good for you. If not, make friends. You'll notice one other change from long ago, Beast gets love now. People finally accept that the old XP penalty is gone, so beast and jug are welcome in parties now. Good luck, and enjoy yourself.

[Pikel]

Once you get 76 and some decent atmas bst does excellent in abyssea. I often solo / duo almost everything I need. Some of the shouts you'll be looking for to start getting things rolling would be mega boss wins for lunar abyssites. You will want atma of the razed ruin, atma of mounted champion, atma of the Ducal Guard for a nice basic solo setup. Look into getting a mage friend for lights as Glamdring mentioned bst has a hard time building lights. Unless you get magic atmas too and /nin your not gonna be able to get azure.


The problem is, beast does not have the native capacity to get the correct light balance for sustained Time extension chests. Honestly, only red mage, blue mage and a fully skilled pup can do that.

While this is pretty much true for bst aside from luck at the start Nin can also build Azure and Solo TE quite effectively.

[blowfin]

The problem is, beast does not have the native capacity to get the correct light balance for sustained Time extension chests. Honestly, only red mage, blue mage and a fully skilled pup can do that.

Kill speed combined with ruby lights (open azure chests) will do the trick for BST. You're obviously not going to build lights as fast as jobs who can get native Azure kills, but it can work. Magic kills aren't the only way to build Azure lights.


The problem is, beast does not have the native capacity to get the correct light balance for sustained Time extension chests. Honestly, only red mage, blue mage and a fully skilled pup can do that.

Also BLM. For the reasons mentioned above. Except you want to be opening every Ruby chest with pearl instead of Azure.

[Glamdring]

Kill speed combined with ruby lights (open azure chests) will do the trick for BST. You're obviously not going to build lights as fast as jobs who can get native Azure kills, but it can work. Magic kills aren't the only way to build Azure lights.

This is a gamble, and it doesn't always work, which is why I never list it as a given the way it is for Blue, Red and Pup (with a red or black frame). Chest drops are random, so it CAN work, but it's not something to depend on.






Also BLM. For the reasons mentioned above. Except you want to be opening every Ruby chest with pearl instead of Azure.

Yeah, the reason I didn't list blm (or scholar for that matter) in the above list is because their melee is so weak. When the mobs you fight all have several thousand HP it's very hard to tell if that little sliver on their health bar indicates 30 HP or 350, so targeting it with a specific damage type is hard. Granted, I would think a blm could-when they see that sliver-use exclusively break|Stun|Sleep to allow them to run in and melee the mob down, but woe be them if they get interrupted.

A player mentioned Ninja being able to do this (like a blm in reverse) meleeing it down and then getting Ninjitsu kills. I didn't list them for the same reason I didn't list blm; that health bar is hard to read. Couple that with how few nin I've met have botherred with the :San ninjitsu to get the highest damage from their ninjitsu and taking off that last little bit of Mob HP can be hard to target. But yes, in both cases it's possible.

Using ruby chests, it's theoretically possible for any job that can solo to get the light balance to start gettign TE chests (or gold for that matter), but it requires fast, steady kills and a hell of alot of luck. I wouldn't bother unless I had stones to burn. MUCH safer to join a party for a bit and help get their lights maxed, or even form a group of people who intend to solo but between them can get the lights. You can also /tell the mage soloers going after NMs and offer to help them max the physical lights while farming pop items, some of them will be willing to go for that, and it's good karma.

[Pikel]

A player mentioned Ninja being able to do this (like a blm in reverse) meleeing it down and then getting Ninjitsu kills. I didn't list them for the same reason I didn't list blm; that health bar is hard to read. Couple that with how few nin I've met have botherred with the :San ninjitsu to get the highest damage from their ninjitsu and taking off that last little bit of Mob HP can be hard to target. But yes, in both cases it's possible.

By this theory Rdm, Blu and Pup Can't solo TE's either. Rdm's require people to buy spells off AH. Blu's Require people to learn spells threw farming. Pup's require people to buy attachments and quest frames. To make matters worse all these jobs require the appropriate skills to be leveled up.

I agree black mage can be hard to do physical kills with but Nin can kill 3 eph Murex's quite easily for max or close to azure. It only takes about 15 min depending on how many others are doing this and then you can focus on melee kills. To scratch a job off the list of possibilities because some of the player base may be gimp or lazy doesn't mean it shouldn't be recommended or brought up for discussion. I personally let all my friends leech up their subs while i solo farm dark rings with Nin/dnc.

[Charismatic]

I'd like to mention that DRG/BLU can also get Azure very easily on ephemerals. Take em down to 5~10% ish, turn your back/disengage(if you think wyvern is going to kill) and spam physical spells. BST/BLU could do the same but I don't know how much utility you'd get from /BLU overall, dunno if it'd be enough to say that's worth doing. It's a different story for DRG due to the healing breaths though.

If all else fails though, ask someone to help you for a bit and keep soloing after they leave?

[Glamdring]

By this theory Rdm, Blu and Pup Can't solo TE's either. Rdm's require people to buy spells off AH. Blu's Require people to learn spells threw farming. Pup's require people to buy attachments and quest frames. To make matters worse all these jobs require the appropriate skills to be leveled up.

I agree black mage can be hard to do physical kills with but Nin can kill 3 eph Murex's quite easily for max or close to azure. It only takes about 15 min depending on how many others are doing this and then you can focus on melee kills. To scratch a job off the list of possibilities because some of the player base may be gimp or lazy doesn't mean it shouldn't be recommended or brought up for discussion. I personally let all my friends leech up their subs while i solo farm dark rings with Nin/dnc.

The mention on nin was simply that the : San line does more damage than the : Ni line of ninjitsu. It was simply that San-doing more damage-is more likely to take off that last sliver than Ni. Obviously, you can keep spamming either until that last sliver of HP is gone. That's one good thing I've seen out of Abyssea. Prior to it and !! processing, rare was the ninja I ever saw who ever used anything but Utsu and the stealth spells, and so when aby 1st showed, so did the lack of ninjitsu skill. Most have closed that gap nicely now. As you can tell, I'm kind of a skill snob.

[blowfin]

Kill speed combined with ruby lights (open azure chests) will do the trick for BST. You're obviously not going to build lights as fast as jobs who can get native Azure kills, but it can work. Magic kills aren't the only way to build Azure lights.


This is a gamble, and it doesn't always work, which is why I never list it as a given the way it is for Blue, Red and Pup (with a red or black frame). Chest drops are random, so it CAN work, but it's not something to depend on.

It does though. Not many reasons you shouldn't be able to get TE's rolling in on BST. This is especially true in the last expansion.


Yeah, the reason I didn't list blm (or scholar for that matter) in the above list is because their melee is so weak. When the mobs you fight all have several thousand HP it's very hard to tell if that little sliver on their health bar indicates 30 HP or 350, so targeting it with a specific damage type is hard. Granted, I would think a blm could-when they see that sliver-use exclusively break|Stun|Sleep to allow them to run in and melee the mob down, but woe be them if they get interrupted.


Once again, you don`t need to melee kill things to get pearl lights.


A player mentioned Ninja being able to do this (like a blm in reverse) meleeing it down and then getting Ninjitsu kills. I didn't list them for the same reason I didn't list blm; that health bar is hard to read. Couple that with how few nin I've met have botherred with the :San ninjitsu to get the highest damage from their ninjitsu and taking off that last little bit of Mob HP can be hard to target. But yes, in both cases it's possible.

Any ninja who isn`t poorly geared or gimped on spells is capable of it.


Using ruby chests, it's theoretically possible for any job that can solo to get the light balance to start gettign TE chests

Totally correct, unfortunately I had to take it out of context though.