This is a discussion forum.

[Alhanelem]

I've seen a number of cases over the years (including, but not only, recently) here where people post suggestions to SE and don't want to hear from anyone unless they agree with them. Such people need to understand that this is not merely a suggestion box and it is definitely not an echo chamber, unless of course you block everyone who doesn't agree with you.



Forums are for discussion. When you make a thread, you are opening up your thoughts to all the other users of that forum. They are free to respond and share their own thoughts and opinions.
Discussion has little value if everyone has the same opinion or perspective. If we all agreed on everything, there would be very little to say. Thus different viewpoints should be expected.
SQUARE-ENIX provides channels on their support site for feedback and suggestions directly to them. If you do not wish anyone to discuss, analyze or debate your suggestion or opinion on something, these may be your best option. This forum is for everyone and you can not tell anyone not to post. If a user's opinion offends you and you don't want to hear from them, the forum provides an ignore list. Use it. Everyone will have a better experience. That said, if you only read posts of people who agree with you, you will not get an accurate picture of the situation. While SE invites suggestions to be posted here, you should expect and assume that someone (not necessairly me) out there will have something to say on the topic.
Everyone here has the privilege to respond to any and every thread they wish to respond to. You can not tell someone they can't reply, because SE gave everyone the privilege to do so, as long as they follow the Code of Conduct and Terms of Use.
At least from me, a disagreement with a post is not personal. In fact, this should be generally assumed from everyone.
Post count has no meaning or value whatsoever. Like most of you, I'm here because of a passion for this wonderful game that has consumed thousands and thousands of hours of my life over the last 20+ years. I'm not here to just make a number go up.
If you can not accept that others can and will comment on your threads, you should consider not posting them.

I don't disagree with everyone on everything. But more often than not, supporting an idea or agreeing with an opinion can be simply signaled with a "like" on the post, which I often do. It is for this reason that there is a bias towards dissenting viewpoints. When people agree on things, there often isn't much to say.

I invite you to disagree or debate me on the particulars of this. You will not find me telling anyone not to reply like I have observed recently. I always speak honestly and often bluntly, but as noted above, this isn't personal.

Thank you for your time.

[Uroah]

No it isn't. Especially not for you and people like you, who are desperate for attention and argue no matter what the topic is for said attention. You and that behavior belong on reddit, 4chan, or twitter.

Touch grass. And don't try to reply to me, this is not a discussion. And do not reply to him, when he tries to reply to me. Do not reward this behavior.

[Haldarn]

I just wish there was more for us to discuss.

[Sirmarki]

No it isn't. Especially not for you and people like you, who are desperate for attention

Coming from you, that's the funniest thing I've ever read here.

[Ahalee]

Coming from you, that's the funniest thing I've ever read here.

You got anything to back that up with? She's kind of onto something with this guy to say the least imo. Just from what I've seen and dealt with of him so far on this forum.

[Gwydion]

I appreciate the thoughtfulness, eloquence and effort you put into this post, but you tend to make a recurring mistake in the context and content of your replies.

Your posts often lack empathy. This means that you often fail to put yourself in the shoes of the poster to see were the request is coming from. It's much too easy to post about all the reasons why you think someone's opinion is wrong, in the context of a discussion. The purpose of this forum, from SE's perspective is for us (players) to find common ground that can help them make decisions about the best course of action to take in developing the world of Vanadiel.

Just like your replies and evidenced by your post here, your replies are not gospel. You are not in charge of the forums. Finally, I disagree with Likes being sufficient for positive discussion. Even if you disagree with someone's post, try to find a narrative that establishes common ground.

TLDR: You have a tendency to be very divisive and just shutdown whoever you're talking to. It's easy to dismiss people in a reply, and a simple Like is not sufficient for discourse. Instead, find common ground about what you'd like to see in the context of another person's request. Show SE that we can agree on things.

[Alhanelem]

No it isn't. Especially not for you and people like you, who are desperate for attention and argue no matter what the topic is for said attention. You and that behavior belong on reddit, 4chan, or twitter.

Touch grass. And don't try to reply to me, this is not a discussion. And do not reply to him, when he tries to reply to me. Do not reward this behavior.
There is no one on this forum who craves attention more than you. It's pretty funny to see you reply to threads made by users you've blocked. Selective hearing I guess.

The hilarity of you thinking I care who replies or doesn't reply. I'm not doing this for a reward.

And also, as I noted, you can't tell anyone not to reply, including me. We all have the privilege to do so by the grace of SE.

[Alhanelem]

I appreciate the thoughtfulness, eloquence and effort you put into this post, but you tend to make a recurring mistake in the context and content of your replies.

Your posts often lack empathy. This means that you often fail to put yourself in the shoes of the poster to see were the request is coming from. It's much too easy to post about all the reasons why you think someone's opinion is wrong, in the context of a discussion. The purpose of this forum, from SE's perspective is for us (players) to find common ground that can help them make decisions about the best course of action to take in developing the world of Vanadiel.

Just like your replies and evidenced by your post here, your replies are not gospel. You are not in charge of the forums. Finally, I disagree with Likes being sufficient for positive discussion. Even if you disagree with someone's post, try to find a narrative that establishes common ground.

TLDR: You have a tendency to be very divisive and just shutdown whoever you're talking to. It's easy to dismiss people in a reply, and a simple Like is not sufficient for discourse. Instead, find common ground about what you'd like to see in the context of another person's request. Show SE that we can agree on things.

No. You're right, I don't run these forums. But there are those who seem to need a reminder that they don't either. Everyone is free to post what they want, where they want, as long as it's within SE's established rules. And that's the key thing people don't seem to understand (particularly Uriah/oh/ah/whatever on his 10th account).

As far as empathy.... It's not that I don't have any. But again, my general position, particularly when it comes to suggestions, is that I realize that we are going to get very little new in the future. Because of this, it is even more important that we prioritize the community as a whole. For example, with the thread that provoked me to write this, a user made a rather self-centered suggestion. Now I get it- this could have had special meaning to them; the point wasn't to just be a party pooper, the point was to help the community as a whole by my attempt to steer the devs towards ideas that would be more generally beneficial to the playerbase as a whole. I'm trying to put literally the entire community above myself or any one other person when I say things like "I don't think this is a good idea" or what-have-you. This doesn't come from a lack of empathy, but out of a sense of greater good to the entire remaining playerbase. I have tons of selfish wishes and ideas, but I don't post them here because of the reasons above. And it is essentially 100% certain that they would get shot down by people here. So why would I post them?

That said, when I comment, it is my true thoughts coming through. I can not simply agree to something just for the sake of it, just as I am oft accused of the reverse, that isn't true either. Ultimately, it is as I said:
Affirmations are usually conveyed by likes or maybe a short comment indicating support. I support a lot more things than you or most others seem to believe- There simply isn't much to say when I do, so again, it's either a simple ackbnowledgement or a "like" on the post.



and a simple Like is not sufficient for discourse. I respectfully disagree. When people agree, there is usually little need for discourse in the first place, unless perhaps an idea is incomplete and needs fleshing out. Thus a like generally is sufficient. Square Enix often itself uses the system and asks people to like posts instead of responding on the same topic. (see: FFXIV forum) And obviously, if I agreed with you, there wouldn't really be any need for any of these words at all. That doesn't mean a like covers everything, but it is a reality of life that we talk about things we don't like or support than those that we do. Anger and frustration often compel us to speak. There are certain key topics that do not belong on this forum that I would point to as evidence of the human nature.

Like I said: People are baised into thinking that I simply disagree with everything or deliberately try to create discord. I have backed and supported many ideas and cool things the community has done over the years- you just don't see me post a lot in those cases, because I have little to say. In other cases, you suggest trying to find common ground. And I do. But common ground is a two way street, the other person has to want to find it too, otherwise there simply isn't any.



The purpose of this forum, from SE's perspective is for us (players) to find common ground The primary purpose of this forum is to discuss the game. That's why it exists. Yes, it has also been used at times for SE to collect feedback which is facilitated by us coming together on good ideas, but like I said before, this isn't simply a feedback system. This forum is here for players to meet and talk about the game in all ways- not just to give SE feedback and suggestions. This ends up happening a lot because we as players have lots of ideas, but it is not the explicit purpose of the forum.

You know, I have more respect for you than you might think. I appreciate your comments and you are always thoughtful respectful, even in the face of opposition. I sometimes get the impression that some of you think I dislike everyone or something and that just really isn't the case, with possibly one exception. That said I accept and agree that I can and should do better. But I have to do so while remaining honest.

[Alhanelem]

You got anything to back that up with? She's kind of onto something with this guy to say the least imo. Just from what I've seen and dealt with of him so far on this forum.
You are welcome to your opinion of course, but you couldn't possibly have a less accurate view of the situation. Maybe you're not familiar with that poster's 20 mile long thread screenshotting STF reports that falsely accuse THE ENTIRE PLAYERBASE of botting Exemplar Points, simply for being in a particular zone. It is straight up malice. (Also, they are not a she.) This user falsely reports entire groups of people for cheating with no evidence, reporting "Everyone in the zone for third-party automation" when all it takes is one single person to enter the zone for any reason for that to become a false statement.

I've been nothing but respectful to you, but you regularly make inaccurate assumptions about what I'm trying to say. I'm close to giving up at this point because no matter what I say, you just assume I have some ulterior motive or that I'm trying to disparage you in some way, neither of which is true. You keep going on about these "contexts" that I neither reference or intend to referencee- you just assume the worst. I truly wish the circumstances were different, and I am still entirely willing to try to come to an understanding. But for that to happen you have to stop assuming that I'm simply out to get you or something like that. I'm not.

There are no secret meanings or contexts from me. Please read my words at face value don't assume there's some unspoken meaning. I'm blunt and honest and that just isn't something I do.

[Sirmarki]

You got anything to back that up with? She's kind of onto something with this guy to say the least imo. Just from what I've seen and dealt with of him so far on this forum.

Yep:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/58360-The-STF-does-nothing-and-I-m-going-to-post-every-report-I-file-as-proof.

[Gwydion]

There are no secret meanings or contexts from me. Please read my words at face value don't assume there's some unspoken meaning. I'm blunt and honest and that just isn't something I do.

This is my point, and I hope you read this ten times and that it actually sinks in: If you attempt to be so direct, so succinct, and so clear in your replies, it actually comes off as dismissive and callous, to many readers. You're not helping your cause by doubling-down on being so rigid.

[Alhanelem]

This is my point, and I hope you read this ten times and that it actually sinks in: If you attempt to be so direct, so succinct, and so clear in your replies, it actually comes off as dismissive and callous, to many readers. You're not helping your cause by doubling-down on being so rigid.
Well the problem here is what you say conflicts with what I responded to. The problem I'm illustrating is how certain people are assuming things that simply aren't there. And knowing what I'm saying here, you should understand now that I'm not simply being "dismissive and callous." I write with a full understanding of the situation and simply say what I mean. There's no subterfuge, no hidden agenda.

I think it's pretty ridiculous to suggest that being direct, succinct and clear is a bad thing. These are all positive attributes in my view. What benefit is there in NOT being clear? That just misleads people. Everyone should strive to be as clear as possible to avoid misunderstandings. Which it seems like we might have one right now, because this... just really doesn't make a lot of sense to me. There's no malice behind that, it just doesn't.

However. You have a point about being more empathetic. I will revisit some past discussions to evaluate how that could have an impact. I have accused others of assuming the worst but I realize that there have been times where I have done that as well.

[Ahalee]

Yep:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/58360-The-STF-does-nothing-and-I-m-going-to-post-every-report-I-file-as-proof.

The person in that post posting the SS is not the same one.


You are welcome to your opinion of course, but you couldn't possibly have a less accurate view of the situation. Maybe you're not familiar with that poster's 20 mile long thread screenshotting STF reports that falsely accuse THE ENTIRE PLAYERBASE of botting Exemplar Points, simply for being in a particular zone. It is straight up malice. (Also, they are not a she.) This user falsely reports entire groups of people for cheating with no evidence, reporting "Everyone in the zone for third-party automation" when all it takes is one single person to enter the zone for any reason for that to become a false statement.

I've been nothing but respectful to you, but you regularly make inaccurate assumptions about what I'm trying to say. I'm close to giving up at this point because no matter what I say, you just assume I have some ulterior motive or that I'm trying to disparage you in some way, neither of which is true. You keep going on about these "contexts" that I neither reference or intend to referencee- you just assume the worst. I truly wish the circumstances were different, and I am still entirely willing to try to come to an understanding. But for that to happen you have to stop assuming that I'm simply out to get you or something like that. I'm not.

There are no secret meanings or contexts from me. Please read my words at face value don't assume there's some unspoken meaning. I'm blunt and honest and that just isn't something I do.


I'll look into the screenshots. Regardless, you haven't been respectful to me. Don't lie. You falsely accuse me of bad performance and then try to cover it up by lying about what you posted and attacking me for calling you out. The context I pointed out was real. You knew what you were referring to and all anyone has to do is read your original post to know that. I'm not "assuming" anything, it's all right there.

[Rinuko]

No it isn't. Especially not for you and people like you, who are desperate for attention and argue no matter what the topic is for said attention. You and that behavior belong on reddit, 4chan, or twitter.

Touch grass. And don't try to reply to me, this is not a discussion. And do not reply to him, when he tries to reply to me. Do not reward this behavior.Seems like OP triggered you.

[Rinuko]

The person in that post posting the SS is not the same one.




I'll look into the screenshots. Regardless, you haven't been respectful to me. Don't lie. You falsely accuse me of bad performance and then try to cover it up by lying about what you posted and attacking me for calling you out. The context I pointed out was real. You knew what you were referring to and all anyone has to do is read your original post to know that. I'm not "assuming" anything, it's all right there.
You’re not respectful to anyone either. You live in your little bubble.

[Ahalee]

You’re not respectful to anyone either. You live in your little bubble.

I have been very respectfully actually. I think you should find something constructive to do instead of trolling others.

[Catmato]

It seems like recently there was a multiple-month period on these forums with very little drama and personal attacks. I wonder what caused that and what we could do to attain it again.

[Rinuko]

I have been very respectfully actually. I think you should find something constructive to do instead of trolling others.

That’s pretty rich coming from you.

[Ahalee]

It seems like recently there was a multiple-month period on these forums with very little drama and personal attacks. I wonder what caused that and what we could do to attain it again.

Banning Rinuko would be a good start.


That’s pretty rich coming from you.

Says the person trying to instigate more stuff

[Sirmarki]

The person in that post posting the SS is not the same one.

Yes, it is, they have just been banned multiple times from the forum and have a million and one accounts (so it seems) in order to keep posting.

[Sirmarki]

I think it is safe to say, given the toxicity that seems to rear its ugly head more than it should do: ..


Players are frustrated...

[Ahalee]

Yes, it is, they have just been banned multiple times from the forum and have a million and one accounts (so it seems) in order to keep posting.

So there was no mention of that in there and to me, there is still no proof either.

[Rinuko]

Banning Rinuko would be a good start.



Says the person trying to instigate more stuff
Ban me for what?

[Ahalee]

Ban me for what?

For trolling other people and trying to bait people into another flame war. That sort of thing.

[Sirmarki]

So there was no mention of that in there and to me, there is still no proof either.

Whatever you want to believe. The proof is pretty evident.

[Alhanelem]

This thread took a really bizzare turn, lol. But I guess engagement has increased?


I think it is safe to say, given the toxicity that seems to rear its ugly head more than it should do: ..


Players are frustrated...
No doubt. It's hard for us to get even the most basic things now, if it was ever easy in the first place.



So there was no mention of that in there and to me, there is still no proof either.
Uh, the proof is in his thread. Notice how the user name has changed multiple times but the behavior is the same. It's really not hard to see. At least, if we're talking about the person making the STF reports, as there's not really anyone else I can think of fitting the description of making multiple accounts to evade bans.

[Alhanelem]

Don't lie. You falsely accuse me of bad performance

I never made any such accusation. There is no lie. I said "IF" there was bad performance. This is not the same thing as saying there actually was. This is called a hypothetical situation. I don't have any data or information other than that which you have provided. I am simply being logical. There is nothing more to it than that. IF, that's an IF, you perform poorly a party can kick you. It doesn't matter if there was a business arrangement or if you were there for some other reason. Your actual performance isn't even relevant. You can be kicked for a party from any reason. This came up because you cited the Terms of Service, which does not cover kicking people from parties. LATER, you did say that the reason you cited that was because you feel you were scammed. In that case, you can certainly call a GM, and ultimately whether there was a violation will be up to them.

One more time:
This is NOT an accusation. This is merely an explanation. I DO NOT KNOW what happened other than what you have told us. I can not determine any guilt or innocence. All I attempted to do was explain to you what the rules actually allow.

I hope that clears this up.

[Catmato]

Uh, the proof is in his thread. Notice how the user name has changed multiple times but the behavior is the same.

Uroah has only posted once in this thread. Does he have some other current name you're aware of?

[Beastorizer]

OP is 100% spot on........but it is kind of like The Cookie Monster giving nutritional advice......
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/08/73/a7/0873a7b4b3f8c517a1ffbf920cf0489d.jpg

[Alhanelem]

Uroah has only posted once in this thread. Does he have some other current name you're aware of?
They're not talking about this thread you're in now. They're talking about this one:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/58360-The-STF-does-nothing-and-I-m-going-to-post-every-report-I-file-as-proof.

The OP, Uriaoh, Uriah, and several other accounts you'll see in that thread are all the same person. He's been banned at least 4 or 5 times for spamming. There are multiple reasons why they don't take firmer action, but all you really need to know is that this guy has made it his life work to call out RMT/botting. He thinks his STF reports get auto-deleted or are never read or something, so he takes screenshots of them all and posts them here. The reality is they do read them and they do ban bots, but their process is so slow that it doesn't really make a dent. And honestly, they probably do ignore his reports at this point, because they have no substance anymore. He just posts every day saying "everyone in the zone is botting in Crawler's Nest [S]," Which, as I noted, is a false statement if even one person enters that zone for any other reason. This means that innocent people are very likely caught up in his reports which makes them impossible for anyone to take seriously.

It's incredibly obvious all of those accounts are the same person. No person with their sanity intact would even do what he's doing in the first place. They'd make one thread complaining about the bots and then either keep playing the game or quit because of it. Most people simply speak with their wallet. :p

[Alhanelem]

OP is 100% spot on........but it is kind of like The Cookie Monster giving nutritional advice......
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/08/73/a7/0873a7b4b3f8c517a1ffbf920cf0489d.jpg
Hey man, even I thought it was funny. +1 to you :)

[Ahalee]

Whatever you want to believe. The proof is pretty evident.




This thread took a really bizzare turn, lol. But I guess engagement has increased?


No doubt. It's hard for us to get even the most basic things now, if it was ever easy in the first place.



Uh, the proof is in his thread. Notice how the user name has changed multiple times but the behavior is the same. It's really not hard to see. At least, if we're talking about the person making the STF reports, as there's not really anyone else I can think of fitting the description of making multiple accounts to evade bans.


So I scrolled up and there is a case that they are the same person maybe. Either way, it doesn't invalidate their opinion in this topic. So I'm not sure what valid overall point anyone thinks they have in trying to say that.


I never made any such accusation. There is no lie. I said "IF" there was bad performance. This is not the same thing as saying there actually was. This is called a hypothetical situation. I don't have any data or information other than that which you have provided. I am simply being logical. There is nothing more to it than that. IF, that's an IF, you perform poorly a party can kick you. It doesn't matter if there was a business arrangement or if you were there for some other reason. Your actual performance isn't even relevant. You can be kicked for a party from any reason. This came up because you cited the Terms of Service, which does not cover kicking people from parties. LATER, you did say that the reason you cited that was because you feel you were scammed. In that case, you can certainly call a GM, and ultimately whether there was a violation will be up to them.

One more time:
This is NOT an accusation. This is merely an explanation. I DO NOT KNOW what happened other than what you have told us. I can not determine any guilt or innocence. All I attempted to do was explain to you what the rules actually allow.

I hope that clears this up.

So again, I wasn't saying that if performance was bad they would be wrong for booting me. But it wasn't and you were implying a straw man argument by saying that's what I was saying. The actual performance IS relevant because it is tied to an implied agreement. I didn't say I FELT I was scammed. I explained why I was.

One more time: Don't stuff words in my mouth that I didn't say. Don't presume to know what happened and act like you do based on hearsay.

[Catmato]

They're not talking about this thread you're in now. They're talking about this one

Sorry, I misread "his" thread as "this" thread.

[Ahalee]

Sorry, I misread "his" thread as "this" thread.

Don't need to be sorry his whole point is moot anyway lol

[Alhanelem]

So again, I wasn't saying that if performance was bad they would be wrong for booting me. But it wasn't and you were implying a straw man argument by saying that's what I was sayingThere was no straw man. THere wasn't even an argument. I only said that performance is a valid reason for a kick (and any reason other than provable harassment is also a valid reason for that matter). I made no statement or implication that your performance was bad. My opinion on that doesn't even matter- The only opinion that matters is that of the person who kicked you.




One more time: Don't stuff words in my mouth that I didn't sayI never did any such thing. You are being way too defensive.

One more time: I never stated or implied any knowledge of your performance in a party. I never made any kind of argument whatsoever. I only stated the simple fact that they can kick you if they don't like your performance (no matter how good it is), or for ANY REASON AT ALL, for that matter.

If you feel you have been scammed, the burden is on you to prove that- and only a GM can decide on that. I can't, and no one else here can either. We can have opinions, sure. But we don't know what really happened, because none of us were there, and you haven't provided any screenshots, chat logs, or whatever that the community could use to decide.

You are continuing to make assumptions about my feelings towards you that simply do not exist. Stop assuming the worst in others.

It's honestly incredible how long this has gone on. I'm not attacking you, and I'm not making judgements on you. Perhaps the best thing for you to do at this point is just leave well enough alone. If you think you're innocent that's all that matters. Who cares what a bunch of randos on the internet think?

[Ahalee]

There was no straw man. THere wasn't even an argument. I only said that performance is a valid reason for a kick (and any reason other than provable harassment is also a valid reason for that matter). I made no statement or implication that your performance was bad. My opinion on that doesn't even matter- The only opinion that matters is that of the person who kicked you.


I never did any such thing. You are being way too defensive.

One more time: I never stated or implied any knowledge of your performance in a party. I never made any kind of argument whatsoever. I only stated the simple fact that they can kick you if they don't like your performance (no matter how good it is), or for ANY REASON AT ALL, for that matter.

If you feel you have been scammed, the burden is on you to prove that- and only a GM can decide on that. I can't, and no one else here can either. We can have opinions, sure. But we don't know what really happened, because none of us were there, and you haven't provided any screenshots, chat logs, or whatever that the community could use to decide.

You are continuing to make assumptions about my feelings towards you that simply do not exist. Stop assuming the worst in others.

It's honestly incredible how long this has gone on. I'm not attacking you, and I'm not making judgements on you. Perhaps the best thing for you to do at this point is just leave well enough alone. If you think you're innocent that's all that matters. Who cares what a bunch of randos on the internet think?

There was definitely a straw man and you definitely implied that you thought that either my performance was bad or that I was feeling that it was and that it was ok to expect a second run due to that. There are other opinions that matter other than the offending party. Give me a break and stop trolling. I think you're projecting on the defensiveness part of things.

And again, one more time: You did and they can't without violating the ToS. Please read this time.

The burden is not on me to prove anything to defend myself in this forum after someone brought me into this out of nowhere and then you decided to start launching unprovoked and ignorant attacks on me. You're right, you don't know what happened. So stop acting like you do. I'm not assuming anything. You are.

What's "incredible" is the level of self-serving trolling you seem to be doing for your own amusement. Perhaps the best thing for you to do is admit you were wrong and just stop this stuff and stop wasting everyone's time. Thank you.

[Alhanelem]

There was definitely a straw man and you definitely implied that you thought that either my performance was bad or that I was feeling that it was and that it was ok to expect a second run due to that. There are other opinions that matter other than the offending party. Give me a break and stop trolling. I think you're projecting on the defensiveness part of things.

And again, one more time: You did and they can't without violating the ToS. Please read this time.

The burden is not on me to prove anything to defend myself in this forum after someone brought me into this out of nowhere and then you decided to start launching unprovoked and ignorant attacks on me. You're right, you don't know what happened. So stop acting like you do. I'm not assuming anything. You are.

What's "incredible" is the level of self-serving trolling you seem to be doing for your own amusement. Perhaps the best thing for you to do is admit you were wrong and just stop this stuff and stop wasting everyone's time. Thank you.
There you go again claiming I'm implying things that I'm not. It's really hard to tell if you're being this paranoid on purpose or if you were just traumatized by some conspiracy against you and now assume everything is a conspiracy.

You are impossible. You keep searching for some secret hidden meaning in everyone's words that generally isn't there. It is literally impossible to talk to you, because no matter how I phrase what I say, you think I'm implying something else.

You have to stop treating people like this. It's not just me you're doing this to. It would really be in your best interest to simply not reply, I think.

I responded to the initial topic out of a genuine interest to understand what was going on and I gave you every benefit of the doubt. But from your point of view, everyone is conspiring against you and you are unable to take people's words at face value.

[Rinuko]

There you go again claiming I'm implying things that I'm not. It's really hard to tell if you're being this paranoid on purpose or if you were just traumatized by some conspiracy against you and now assume everything is a conspiracy.

You are impossible. You keep searching for some secret hidden meaning in everyone's words that generally isn't there. It is literally impossible to talk to you, because no matter how I phrase what I say, you think I'm implying something else.

You have to stop treating people like this. It's not just me you're doing this to. It would really be in your best interest to simply not reply, I think.

I responded to the initial topic out of a genuine interest to understand what was going on and I gave you every benefit of the doubt. But from your point of view, everyone is conspiring against you and you are unable to take people's words at face value.

It’s the normal ahalee cycle. People tried to tell him to let things go since December 2023. He assume everyone is out to get him and he was a victim of a “scam”, when it boils down to the partyleader kicked him from a party, although it might been rude without telling or explaining. But making a 2+ month drama around it, is odd to me.

If you say anything, you’re just a troll.

He been stalking people, harassing people both in-game and on online platforms.

I have him blacklisted everywhere for peace of mind.

[Alhanelem]

Yeah. Seems I've met my match. Lol.....

[Beastorizer]

All I am saying, is all those years of making enemies caught up with ya..........You kind of made your bed brah........

[Alhanelem]

I'm not trying to make enemies, I'm just on the spectrum with an inherently defective personality. There are so many people out there far more deserving.

[Ahalee]

There you go again claiming I'm implying things that I'm not. It's really hard to tell if you're being this paranoid on purpose or if you were just traumatized by some conspiracy against you and now assume everything is a conspiracy.

You are impossible. You keep searching for some secret hidden meaning in everyone's words that generally isn't there. It is literally impossible to talk to you, because no matter how I phrase what I say, you think I'm implying something else.

You have to stop treating people like this. It's not just me you're doing this to. It would really be in your best interest to simply not reply, I think.

I responded to the initial topic out of a genuine interest to understand what was going on and I gave you every benefit of the doubt. But from your point of view, everyone is conspiring against you and you are unable to take people's words at face value.


You were implying what you were implying. I'm not being paranoid. I don't need to "search" for any "hidden meaning", it's all out in plain view with you. I'm not doing anythhing to anyone, maybe figure that out and please don't stuff words in other people's mouths. Thanks a bunch!


It’s the normal ahalee cycle. People tried to tell him to let things go since December 2023. He assume everyone is out to get him and he was a victim of a “scam”, when it boils down to the partyleader kicked him from a party, although it might been rude without telling or explaining. But making a 2+ month drama around it, is odd to me.

If you say anything, you’re just a troll.

He been stalking people, harassing people both in-game and on online platforms.

I have him blacklisted everywhere for peace of mind.

There is no "ahalee cycle", my posts have been pretty rational and logical tbh. I don't assume everyone is out to get me and I was a victim of a scam as are many people in this world. There are legit and illegitimate reasons to kick others out of a party. I haven't made any drama.

I have not stalked, nor harassed anyone. You have me blacklisted because you don't want to be confronted in-game about trolling me on the boards.

[Alhanelem]

You were implying what you were implying.No.
I was not implying anything. I used the exact words to state exactly what I meant. No percieved implication on your part is correct. The literal words and only the literal words are what I mean. Period.

I am done with this conversation, you can not accept that people actually mean what they say and read too far into things. Until you do something about this, you're going to continue having these kinds of arguments with nearly everyone you interact with. This clearly isn't the only time you've run into this situation, and you really need to ask yourself why that is and what you can do about it.

It is really not easy at all to earn a spot on my ignore list- far more difficult than probably anyone else here.

Good bye.

[Ahalee]

No.
I was not implying anything. I used the exact words to state exactly what I meant. No percieved implication on your part is correct. The literal words and only the literal words are what I mean. Period.

I am done with this conversation, you can not accept that people actually mean what they say and read too far into things. Until you do something about this, you're going to continue having these kinds of arguments with nearly everyone you interact with. This clearly isn't the only time you've run into this situation, and you really need to ask yourself why that is and what you can do about it.

It is really not easy at all to earn a spot on my ignore list- far more difficult than probably anyone else here.

Good bye.

It really doesn't help to deny what you were implying. You absolutely meant what you said. Implying something doesnt preclude that. I think you need to ask yourself why you continue to attempt to troll and antagonize others.

[Rinuko]

There are legit and illegitimate reasons to kick others out of a party. I haven't made any drama.

Who decided what is and isn't a legitimate reason to kick anyone? You?
A party leader can kick whoever they like for whatever reason. It's not that big of a deal. You are entitled to whatever feeling about being removed from a party but throwing a fit like you have since Christmas, going on a campaign to try to ruin multiple people's enjoyment in the game and, spread falsehood, is simply sad. If you're just trolling, it's not even a good troll.

But congrats on ruining whatever reputation you may had on Bahamut, everyone who knows about your yelling drama wants to stay away and not invite you.

But you will ignore all of this and just go ahead and call me a troll and me harassing you.

[Ahalee]

Who decided what is and isn't a legitimate reason to kick anyone? You?
A party leader can kick whoever they like for whatever reason. It's not that big of a deal. You are entitled to whatever feeling about being removed from a party but throwing a fit like you have since Christmas, going on a campaign to try to ruin multiple people's enjoyment in the game and, spread falsehood, is simply sad. If you're just trolling, it's not even a good troll.

But congrats on ruining whatever reputation you may had on Bahamut, everyone who knows about your yelling drama wants to stay away and not invite you.

But you will ignore all of this and just go ahead and call me a troll and me harassing you.

I never said I decided what a legitimate reason to kick someone is. It's either legitimate or it's not. You may want to read the ToS that you agreed to, to be able to play this game, because it seems like you didn't bother the first time. The party leader cannot orchestrate an in-game scam and therefore cannot kick for the purposes of that. I haven't been throwing any fit. I think you're just looking to libel someone over the official forums with that at this point. I'm not on a campaign to ruin anyone's enjoyment, quite the contrary. I don't want anyone to have the same experience getting scammed by Euvedant/Lecroucond that I did. I haven't ruined my reputation by the way.

I seriously do think you should grow up and stop trolling others. Thank you.

[Alhanelem]

The only illegitimate reason to kick someone out of a part is as a form of harassment. The TOS covers no reasons for kicking someone from a party to be a rule violation. Even if someone wanted to make a case for scamming (which would require a transaction), that's it's own rule and doesn't directly have anything to do with kicking people. Scamming is a player dispute. GMs in some cases have mediated such disputes (i.e. telling users to give money / items back, or whatever), but generally this isn't punished by the TOS with bans or suspensions.

This guy really just can't let this go can he? Never heard of quitting while you're behind, just keeps digging a bigger hole.

.... it's almost like I've ran into myself

[Ahalee]

The only illegitimate reason to kick someone out of a part is as a form of harassment. The TOS covers no reasons for kicking someone from a party to be a rule violation. Even if someone wanted to make a case for scamming (which would require a transaction), that's it's own rule and doesn't directly have anything to do with kicking people. Scamming is a player dispute. GMs in some cases have mediated such disputes (i.e. telling users to give money / items back, or whatever), but generally this isn't punished by the TOS with bans or suspensions.

This guy really just can't let this go can he? Never heard of quitting while you're behind, just keeps digging a bigger hole.

.... it's almost like I've ran into myself

So in-game scams are against the ToS, if someone is kicking someone to effectuate that, then they are breaking the ToS. Pretty simple. The ToS does cover it. There was a transaction. Its called time investment for an implied return in this case and it CAN have something to do with kicking people if that is what is required to effectuate the scam.

[Alhanelem]

https://i.imgur.com/ZXxAO7o.png
It seems like someone isn't able to cope with not having the last word.

[Ahalee]

https://i.imgur.com/ZXxAO7o.png
It seems like someone isn't able to cope with not having the last word.

Yeah, like you. Because you posted nothing of value yet again.

[Vold]

There's so few of us left. Has age not improved ourselves on how we treat one another? Do we really need to act like we're all still in our teens and 20s? I mean, we're all who we are but it's been over 20 years. Age can and does change people. Maybe the youngest buck around here is up to their teens for XI experience. Am I the only one who ran out of the energy for MMO arguments like ten or fifteen years ago?

I let go of my vitriol for player strangers a long time ago when I realized I was taking things out on innocent players who never brought any harm against me. I was harsh to people for the sins of the many youthful players back in the early days. I became very angry that people would give me crap over my name. They never wanted to hear how I came up with it. They just went straight to mocking for somehow misspelling it. Some even went well past that to downright harassment by their own free will that I didn't encourage in the least by anything I said, that to this day I have their names on my blacklist. None of them are playing anymore, and I don't even know how to clear it. XI was my first MMORPG. Like a child being raised by their parents, I learned how to be nasty to people from my experiences in game. I thought it was the thing to do, the way to be.

My rep will probably never recover as far as any forums go. My more youthful stances and nature early on on these forums have ensured that. I've been tempted more than once of server jumping, creating a new char with the same name here, so I could transfer back and change my name. But I don't do it because I am owning up to the rep I stuck myself with. And I push on here, farming my mythics while my bro squad is on their yearly break, alone. As I deserve. But at least my bros know the real me. If not for my friends who were forgiving enough to play around me, I'd probably been gone from here 18 years ago.

What I hope for, besides SE finding a heart to spend the money and make XI great again just for us so it can be updated like a normal MMO that doesn't have a trillion people playing it, is everyone today can look back at their youthful selves playing MMOs and say(if they deserve it) 'wow what an asshole. Let's be better now.' XI had a way of creating monsters. Well that's long gone now and the game is all the better for it. Why can't we move on and be better, too? Be less confronting. Be less dismissive. Think how you can put something into words that come from your point of view rather than stating it like it's a cold hard fact. That one is alittle hard to let go. We all think our opinion is a matter of fact I don't care if you're 15 or 55.

If you're reading this you're probably in your late 30s to early 40s, hell maybe some 50s even. I know at least one couple who are probably in their very late 40s or early 50s. I know it seems important to defend yourself, or to put someone in their place. I say this with all the pieces of my heart: Let it go. You are half way through your life, give or take 10 years. Let it go, and leave the gamer vitriol for the young.

[Ahalee]

There's so few of us left. Has age not improved ourselves on how we treat one another? Do we really need to act like we're all still in our teens and 20s? I mean, we're all who we are but it's been over 20 years. Age can and does change people. Maybe the youngest buck around here is up to their teens for XI experience. Am I the only one who ran out of the energy for MMO arguments like ten or fifteen years ago?

I let go of my vitriol for player strangers a long time ago when I realized I was taking things out on innocent players who never brought any harm against me. I was harsh to people for the sins of the many youthful players back in the early days. I became very angry that people would give me crap over my name. They never wanted to hear how I came up with it. They just went straight to mocking for somehow misspelling it. Some even went well past that to downright harassment by their own free will that I didn't encourage in the least by anything I said, that to this day I have their names on my blacklist. None of them are playing anymore, and I don't even know how to clear it. XI was my first MMORPG. Like a child being raised by their parents, I learned how to be nasty to people from my experiences in game. I thought it was the thing to do, the way to be.

My rep will probably never recover as far as any forums go. My more youthful stances and nature early on on these forums have ensured that. I've been tempted more than once of server jumping, creating a new char with the same name here, so I could transfer back and change my name. But I don't do it because I am owning up to the rep I stuck myself with. And I push on here, farming my mythics while my bro squad is on their yearly break, alone. As I deserve. But at least my bros know the real me. If not for my friends who were forgiving enough to play around me, I'd probably been gone from here 18 years ago.

What I hope for, besides SE finding a heart to spend the money and make XI great again just for us so it can be updated like a normal MMO that doesn't have a trillion people playing it, is everyone today can look back at their youthful selves playing MMOs and say(if they deserve it) 'wow what an asshole. Let's be better now.' XI had a way of creating monsters. Well that's long gone now and the game is all the better for it. Why can't we move on and be better, too? Be less confronting. Be less dismissive. Think how you can put something into words that come from your point of view rather than stating it like it's a cold hard fact. That one is alittle hard to let go. We all think our opinion is a matter of fact I don't care if you're 15 or 55.

If you're reading this you're probably in your late 30s to early 40s, hell maybe some 50s even. I know at least one couple who are probably in their very late 40s or early 50s. I know it seems important to defend yourself, or to put someone in their place. I say this with all the pieces of my heart: Let it go. You are half way through your life, give or take 10 years. Let it go, and leave the gamer vitriol for the young.


Given that I wasn't even participating in these forums until my name got dragged into a topic out of nowhere, I feel like this is a false equivalency. The fact of the matter is that Rinuko and Alhanelem are continue to act as the aggressors here in this situation to the detriment of this topic and board and just won't let things go.

[Alhanelem]

There's so few of us left. Has age not improved ourselves on how we treat one another? Do we really need to act like we're all still in our teens and 20s? I mean, we're all who we are but it's been over 20 years. Age can and does change people. Maybe the youngest buck around here is up to their teens for XI experience. Am I the only one who ran out of the energy for MMO arguments like ten or fifteen years ago?

I let go of my vitriol for player strangers a long time ago when I realized I was taking things out on innocent players who never brought any harm against me. I was harsh to people for the sins of the many youthful players back in the early days. I became very angry that people would give me crap over my name. They never wanted to hear how I came up with it. They just went straight to mocking for somehow misspelling it. Some even went well past that to downright harassment by their own free will that I didn't encourage in the least by anything I said, that to this day I have their names on my blacklist. None of them are playing anymore, and I don't even know how to clear it. XI was my first MMORPG. Like a child being raised by their parents, I learned how to be nasty to people from my experiences in game. I thought it was the thing to do, the way to be.

My rep will probably never recover as far as any forums go. My more youthful stances and nature early on on these forums have ensured that. I've been tempted more than once of server jumping, creating a new char with the same name here, so I could transfer back and change my name. But I don't do it because I am owning up to the rep I stuck myself with. And I push on here, farming my mythics while my bro squad is on their yearly break, alone. As I deserve. But at least my bros know the real me. If not for my friends who were forgiving enough to play around me, I'd probably been gone from here 18 years ago.

What I hope for, besides SE finding a heart to spend the money and make XI great again just for us so it can be updated like a normal MMO that doesn't have a trillion people playing it, is everyone today can look back at their youthful selves playing MMOs and say(if they deserve it) 'wow what an asshole. Let's be better now.' XI had a way of creating monsters. Well that's long gone now and the game is all the better for it. Why can't we move on and be better, too? Be less confronting. Be less dismissive. Think how you can put something into words that come from your point of view rather than stating it like it's a cold hard fact. That one is alittle hard to let go. We all think our opinion is a matter of fact I don't care if you're 15 or 55.

If you're reading this you're probably in your late 30s to early 40s, hell maybe some 50s even. I know at least one couple who are probably in their very late 40s or early 50s. I know it seems important to defend yourself, or to put someone in their place. I say this with all the pieces of my heart: Let it go. You are half way through your life, give or take 10 years. Let it go, and leave the gamer vitriol for the young.
Yeah, 40 here. Started playing in college. And you're right about most of this. It's not always easy but we really all should be getting more chill in our old age lol. I see also that like me you popped on here at the very beginning. :)

And one last genuine piece of advice: Stop caring so much what other people think. if several pages worth of posts are made and people are still arguing, it should be obvious at that point that no one involved is going to budge on their feelings. If you can't convince someone after a few posts, then oh well. let them remain in ignorance. Which is something I need to remind myself of as well.

[Uroah]

just won't let things go.

Stop feeding the damn trolls and ignore them. Go back to ignoring the whole site, there's nothing of value here.

Devs and reps dont care about your opinions and no one cares about your honor or whatever you think you're defending. All you're doing is entertaining trolls.

[Rinuko]

Given that I wasn't even participating in these forums until my name got dragged into a topic out of nowhere, I feel like this is a false equivalency. The fact of the matter is that Rinuko and Alhanelem are continue to act as the aggressors here in this situation to the detriment of this topic and board and just won't let things go.

I'm not acting as any aggressor. You have been trying to paint me as the bad guy since I called you out on your definition of being "scammed" on Reddit.

You then have followed me around in-game, spamming me with lies and harassing me both in-game and by making 20-30+ Reddit accounts.

Not to mention how much you tried to throw me and others under the bus in yells when I haven't even interacted with you.

Meanwhile, here you're trying to come off this innocent and pure person who gets everyone's heat unprovoked. You're fake.

There is a reason I need to have you blocked everywhere, otherwise I see comments like this.

Grow up and enjoy the game, or leave. I couldn't care less.

[Sp1cyryan]

Nothing but good things have/will come from this thread.

[Ahalee]

Yeah, 40 here. Started playing in college. And you're right about most of this. It's not always easy but we really all should be getting more chill in our old age lol. I see also that like me you popped on here at the very beginning. :)

And one last genuine piece of advice: Stop caring so much what other people think. if several pages worth of posts are made and people are still arguing, it should be obvious at that point that no one involved is going to budge on their feelings. If you can't convince someone after a few posts, then oh well. let them remain in ignorance. Which is something I need to remind myself of as well.


I don't see myself as old, however at the same time, I was chill before this mess happened and I still feel like when I wasn't chill that I wasn't out of line for being not chill given the circumstances.

Obviously you should take your own advice on not caring what others think given you've been taking left and right cheap shots at me for a while now. Just saying.



Stop feeding the damn trolls and ignore them. Go back to ignoring the whole site, there's nothing of value here.

Devs and reps don't care about your opinions and no one cares about your honor or whatever you think you're defending. All you're doing is entertaining trolls.

I'm not going to put up zero defense while people come onto forums and try to defame me and sludge my name. That doesn't make sense to me at all. It shouldn't make sense to anyone really.

I care about my rep and I feel strongly that that it what I am defending by coming on here to defend myself after my name was dragged onto these boards unprovoked in an effort to defame me.



I'm not acting as any aggressor. You have been trying to paint me as the bad guy since I called you out on your definition of being "scammed" on Reddit.

You then have followed me around in-game, spamming me with lies and harassing me both in-game and by making 20-30+ Reddit accounts.

Not to mention how much you tried to throw me and others under the bus in yells when I haven't even interacted with you.

Meanwhile, here you're trying to come off this innocent and pure person who gets everyone's heat unprovoked. You're fake.

There is a reason I need to have you blocked everywhere, otherwise I see comments like this.

Grow up and enjoy the game, or leave. I couldn't care less.


You clearly have been acting as the aggressor party and anyone can see that based on your post history that hasn't been edited to try to cover things up. I never followed you around in game at all or anyone else for that matter. I never even sent you any /tells. You aren't even on the same server anymore as far as I know. I'm not on Odin. I never once mentioned you in /yell.

I never said I was perfect, if I was perfect I wouldn't have let Euvedant get under my skin when he /yells for groups with zero remorse for things he has done. I wouldn't have wasted hours of my time in /yell with that mess that day earlier this month. There's other things obviously too. I'm not claiming anything you're acting like I'm claiming in that regard. At the same time the heat has been unprovoked.

If you want to block me go ahead. I'm not going to lose sleep over it. But I doubt you will because it seems like you just want to troll me honestly.

[Alhanelem]

I'm not going to put up zero defenseThat's exactly what you should do. This is the internet, what happens there stays there. Why are you getting emotionally invested in a dispute with people you've never seen and will never actually meet and don't really know anything about (and vice versa)?

[Sp1cyryan]

That's exactly what you should do. This is the internet, what happens there stays there. Why are you getting emotionally invested in a dispute with people you've never seen and will never actually meet and don't really know anything about (and vice versa)?

But, people said things on the Internet. If they get away with it then what message does that send to all the unwashed masses?!

Next thing you know we will have an unfettered horde of bots plaguing the game while people argue over old level capped fights no one thinks about.

[Alhanelem]

Next thing you know we will have an unfettered horde of bots plaguing the game while people argue over old level capped fights no one thinks about.
Hang on, nobody doe- ... wait...

[Ahalee]

That's exactly what you should do. This is the internet, what happens there stays there. Why are you getting emotionally invested in a dispute with people you've never seen and will never actually meet and don't really know anything about (and vice versa)?

Why are you initiating unprovoked attacks and lies against people that never did anything to you and how is that not getting "emotionally invested" ? You must think I'm a fool or something.

[Haldarn]

But, people said things on the Internet. If they get away with it then what message does that send to all the unwashed masses?!

Next thing you know we will have an unfettered horde of bots plaguing the game while people argue over old level capped fights no one thinks about.

Dude, hasn't Final Fantasy XI taught you anything??? If we don't argue about stuff, the Cloud of Darkness won't get blown away and our existence will be obliviated! We are doing Altana's work!!

[Ahalee]

Dude, hasn't Final Fantasy XI taught you anything??? If we don't argue about stuff, the Cloud of Darkness won't get blown away and our existence will be obliviated! We are doing Altana's work!!

People have the right to defend themselves. I'm sorry people like you feel the need to mock that.

[Haldarn]

People have the right to defend themselves. I'm sorry people like you feel the need to mock that.

Hello Ahalee. I was talking to Spicy because he was indirectly referring to a conversation I was having elsewhere. If I was mocking anyone, it was myself, as because that way we can all have a laugh without anyone feeling bad.

I feel sorry that people like you think everything is against them, when more often than not it is neither intended for you, nor particularly against you. It is doubly sad that you choose to attack everyone in your close vicinity, and I would ask that if you are doing so in good faith that you stop and consider yourself.

[Ahalee]

Hello Ahalee. I was talking to Spicy because he was indirectly referring to a conversation I was having elsewhere. If I was mocking anyone, it was myself, as because that way we can all have a laugh without anyone feeling bad.

I feel sorry that people like you think everything is against them, when more often than not it is neither intended for you, nor particularly against you. It is doubly sad that you choose to attack everyone in your close vicinity, and I would ask that if you are doing so in good faith that you stop and consider yourself.

Don't try to lie. It was obvious you were referring to my posts among others. I don't choose to attack everyone in my vicinity and I think that is pretty obvious.

[Haldarn]

Don't try to lie. It was obvious you were referring to my posts among others. I don't choose to attack everyone in my vicinity and I think that is pretty obvious.

I don't lie, sonny - that might be something you like to do, but I dropped that sort of behaviour in preschool.

I was referring to the portion of Spicy's post that was referring to a discussion I was having elsewhere on the forum. Nothing to do with you. You've just proved my point with your comment.

It's clear that you're acting in bad faith for some weird reason (I guess you find it entertaining? ok...), which should have been obvious from all of the other interactions you've had across this forum since you started posting the other week. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but that doubt's now gone. As with other posters here, I'll now mute you. Feel free to have whatever last word on the matter you want.

[Ahalee]

I don't lie, sonny - that might be something you like to do, but I dropped that sort of behaviour in preschool.

I was referring to the portion of Spicy's post that was referring to a discussion I was having elsewhere on the forum. Nothing to do with you. You've just proved my point with your comment.

It's clear that you're acting in bad faith for some weird reason (I guess you find it entertaining? ok...), which should have been obvious from all of the other interactions you've had across this forum since you started posting the other week. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but that doubt's now gone. As with other posters here, I'll now mute you. Feel free to have whatever last word on the matter you want.

Sad that you have to call names to try to prove you're right when you clearly aren't. You can repeat a lie as much as you want but it doesn't make it the truth. You were taking a swipe and myself and the person who started going after me. It's obvious I'm not acting in bad faith.

[Alhanelem]

I don't lie, sonny - that might be something you like to do, but I dropped that sort of behaviour in preschool.

I was referring to the portion of Spicy's post that was referring to a discussion I was having elsewhere on the forum. Nothing to do with you. You've just proved my point with your comment.

It's clear that you're acting in bad faith for some weird reason (I guess you find it entertaining? ok...), which should have been obvious from all of the other interactions you've had across this forum since you started posting the other week. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but that doubt's now gone. As with other posters here, I'll now mute you. Feel free to have whatever last word on the matter you want.
It is impossible to reason with them. Everyone is out to get them and ruin and defame them and the world has to know what horrible people we all are.

They never stop and consider the fact that them having this problem with basically everybody might indicate that maybe, just maybe, they aren't taking the most optimal approach to interpersonal interaction, and rather than taking offense to people trying to explain this to them, acknowledge that they aren't perfect and have some things they can work on- like not treating every even slightly critical comment as a personal attack.

[Rinuko]

https://tenor.com/boK9p.gif

[Alhanelem]

you can link to images here, if they don't display properly, after uploading an image right click on it and click "copy image link" rather than using the link the image site provides, and then in the post, click the picture icon on the formatting bar and paste in the link there.

That said, you probably should have made the popcorn earlier :p

[Ahalee]

It is impossible to reason with them. Everyone is out to get them and ruin and defame them and the world has to know what horrible people we all are.

They never stop and consider the fact that them having this problem with basically everybody might indicate that maybe, just maybe, they aren't taking the most optimal approach to interpersonal interaction, and rather than taking offense to people trying to explain this to them, acknowledge that they aren't perfect and have some things they can work on- like not treating every even slightly critical comment as a personal attack.

I never said everyone was out to get me or defame me. I'm not having problems with "basically everybody". Not sure where you are coming up with this mess.

[Alhanelem]

The last post in this thread was over a month ago, you could have just let it die. No one else needs to no the IRL deets, if you have to take action IRL, you do so, it doesn't need to bleed back into here. Everyone else had moved on and accepted that this person isn't playing with a full deck already lol

I don't think any giver of legal advice would advise posting publicly about the issue like this.

**This is not legal advice, and this thread really should be locked.

[Jedigamer]

I didn't realize you were a moderator. Anyway, Ahalee doxxed me last night and I chose to post in this thread for my own reasons. I'd be less concerned about my decision to post here and more concerned about a person on this forum commiting a crime. You might be their next target.

[Alhanelem]

I didn't realize you were a moderator.
I never claimed to be. However, I am the OP of this thread, and I certainly didn't create it for this purpose. This forum is not the place to discuss IRL legal issues and if you're actually being doxxed, you shouldn't be posting about it for the world to see, you should be talking with a lawyer and keeping it in confidence.

I will not be dragged into an actual legal feud and I have reported this so that it will hopefully be closed and that will be the end of it. If I was an actual moderator and could do it myself, I would have done it already, because this is the kind of thing S-E wouldn't want to touch with a 10 foot pole, and I will not either beyond this point.

[Jedigamer]

Thanks for reporting it and getting moderators eyes on it. Mission accomplished.

[Jedigamer]

Still waiting for the screenshots. I posted mine, which includes you posting your motivation and saying you hope someone hurts me.

[Ahalee]

Still waiting for the screenshots. I posted mine, which includes you posting your motivation and saying you hope someone hurts me.

I never said I hope someone hurts you. That's also a lie. Grow up and stop being so dishonest.

[Immortal]

I didn't realize you were a moderator. Anyway, Ahalee doxxed me last night and I chose to post in this thread for my own reasons. I'd be less concerned about my decision to post here and more concerned about a person on this forum commiting a crime. You might be their next target.

He is NOT a moderator, just pretends to be one which is actually against the rules.

[Alhanelem]

He is NOT a moderator, just pretends to be one which is actually against the rules.I'm not pretending to be a moderator and I'm not breaking any rules.

It's too bad I'm not though because trolling as you are now, IS against the rules.


If I was an actual moderator and could do it myself
Makes it plain and obvious that I am not nor pretending to be.

You don't have to like me, but you also don't have to be intentionally destructive.

[Zenion]

The last post in this thread was over a month ago, you could have just let it die. No one else needs to no the IRL deets, if you have to take action IRL, you do so, it doesn't need to bleed back into here. Everyone else had moved on and accepted that this person isn't playing with a full deck already lol

I don't think any giver of legal advice would advise posting publicly about the issue like this.

**This is not legal advice, and this thread really should be locked.

Looks like the last post before yours had been over a month prior... you could have let this just quietly bury itself, and now everyone has to see the "oh look, new posts in General" notification flag, and check in just to be disappointed with this.

Please, stop engaging. Let Ahalee and Jedigamer finish with whatever they're going through, it doesn't sound like they need an audience.

[Ahalee]

Looks like the last post before yours had been over a month prior... you could have let this just quietly bury itself, and now everyone has to see the "oh look, new posts in General" notification flag, and check in just to be disappointed with this.

Please, stop engaging. Let Ahalee and Jedigamer finish with whatever they're going through, it doesn't sound like they need an audience.


As far as I'm concerned I'm already finished with Jedigamer. Don't nobody got time to think about him. As far as Alhanalem, to be fair; Jedigamer deleted his post that Alhanelem was referring to. Jedigamer was the one that stirred things up but Alhanelem definitely added gas onto things. This drama needs to die already.

[Alhanelem]

Looks like the last post before yours had been over a month prior... you could have let this just quietly bury itself, and now everyone has to see the "oh look, new posts in General" notification flag, and check in just to be disappointed with this.

Please, stop engaging. Let Ahalee and Jedigamer finish with whatever they're going through, it doesn't sound like they need an audience.
Did you actually look? I wasn't the one who bumped it. In fact I commented on the person who DID bump it for the month of inactivity prior.

If you want to hate on me at least base it on something factual. And you know, the best way to kill a thread is not post in it. By replying to criticize me, you're doing the exact same thing you accused me of...

[Ahalee]

Did you actually look? I wasn't the one who bumped it. In fact I commented on the person who DID bump it for the month of inactivity prior.

If you want to hate on me at least base it on something factual.

I hit the like button on your post because I enjoyed seeing you call Jedi on some of his crap. Thank you.