Could please lower the Omen Paragon Card exchange rate from 10:1 to 5:1?

[Gwydion]

Dear SE,
With all due respect, would you please consider lowering the exchange rate for Omen's Paragon cards from 10:1 to 5:1? This doesn't have to be an outright change, but can be modified through, perhaps game content such as completing Voracious Resurgence. Alternatively, we could spend excess job points to lower the exchange rate from 10:1 to 5:1. Another possible option is to trade an Ou Pop (5 KIs) to Coelestrox for a single exchange of 5:1?

I don't know why you have chosen to keep the exchange rate so high. Omen has been available for almost 7 years and currently has the highest exchange rate of any other content in the game.

Alternatively, I do wish there was more items to purchase with omen cards. Items which cost 100, 250 and 500 Omen cards should be a reality.

Please consider it. Thank you.

[Alhanelem]

Omen has been available for almost 7 years and currently has the highest exchange rate of any other content in the game.

You really can't compare exchange rates when different contents have different levels of difficulty, durations, and rates of obtaining items.

[Sp1cyryan]

There is a card campaign right now. Go do it.

[Immortal]

They are going to pop into literally every thread to be contrarian, you can't make this up. Get a life

[Sp1cyryan]

They are going to pop into literally every thread to be contrarian, you can't make this up. Get a life

What is contrarian about saying to go do the active campaign? Seems as though you can't help yourself out of an infatuation with myself.

[Tokimemofan]

I’d rather see them allow trading multiple cards types. That way I can do something with these random ones from AMAN trove

[Gwydion]

I’d rather see them allow trading multiple cards types. That way I can do something with these random ones from AMAN trove

I like this idea as well. Trading a mix of cards would be nice to reforge AF would be nice. What do you when you have a mix of cards, like 3, 5, 12, 15,20. That's a really good point. I wish I could use them towards something.

Also, yes, the card campaign is underway but in the past 3 days, I have only seen 2 merc shouts (and zero actual groups looking for people to play with). Being able to use my extra cards would help lower the barrier.

[Alhanelem]

They are going to pop into literally every thread to be contrarian, you can't make this up. Get a life
Stop using that word as an excuse to complain about people. Just becuase our opinions aren't always the same as yours doesn't mean we're "contrarian." How many times do I have to say it?

It's not like we've never agreed on anything before. There is no reason to say anything like this other than to be destructive. Doing so just turns threads where we're actaully discussing the topic into threads about hating on / trolling people. Which I'm pretty sure isn't exactly endorsed by the rules (not that they're enforced well...). So yeah...

[Tarmarkvar]

They are going to pop into literally every thread to be contrarian, you can't make this up. Get a life

I think maybe he was just pointing out that there's a campaign going on, which would be useful knowledge to anybody who needs Omen cards. I don't think there was any comment on the reasonableness of the original request.

[Sp1cyryan]

Stop using that word as an excuse to complain about people. Just becuase our opinions aren't always the same as yours doesn't mean we're "contrarian." How many times do I have to say it?

It's not like we've never agreed on anything before. There is no reason to say anything like this other than to be destructive. Doing so just turns threads where we're actaully discussing the topic into threads about hating on / trolling people. Which I'm pretty sure isn't exactly endorsed by the rules (not that they're enforced well...). So yeah...

It's just immature reasoning and lashing out. It be one thing if it had a sone decent basis, but it is just attempt at glib insult. The fanaticism over their idea of the game is pretty sad. Comes off like a psychological defense mechanism.

[Gwydion]

Bumpity, bump, bump! help us out SE!

[Pixela]

I can't see them doing this, they added cards to Aman and have double drops. You can even send them to alts.

[Gwydion]

I can't see them doing this, they added cards to Aman and have double drops. You can even send them to alts.

Sending items doesn't have to be an indication of a plan or intention. You'd be surprised what items can be delivery-boxed on the same account, equipment sendable but only with or without augments, etc. etc. Anyway, lowering the number of cards exchanged to 5:1 would make it Omen more favorable for jobs that are not Omen-objective-friendly.

[Horadrius]

They could also implement the ability to exchange scales for cards. Like you can exchange one Kin's scale for 5 cards. This is similar to the old Limbus system where you could exchange chips for Ancient Beastcoins.

[Gwydion]

Fingers crossed. We get a reply on this Omen configuration change.

[Sp1cyryan]

Fingers crossed. We get a reply on this Omen configuration change.

Lol.

. . . .

[Alhanelem]

Fingers crossed. We get a reply on this Omen configuration change.
They don't reply to anything anymore, other than certain big huge isssues and the community contest stuff.

[Pixela]

When someone makes a suggestion, we aren't making a demand. We are making a suggestion, if they add it great, if they don't oh well.

The replies of lol or they will never do that are worthless and only designed to demoralize people from asking.

We asked for a long time for something to be done about dropping ultra rare equip, they did it and we have trashcan.

We asked for more wardrobes, they added more.

We asked for fixes for the lag problems only impacting NA players in Ody, they fixed it.

We asked for more capacity camps, they did it and even added new monster skins and unlocked new areas with CN(s).

We asked for dark relics, they added them.

We asked for new merch, they added some.

We asked for Mieru fixes, they did.

We asked for some kind of fix for the annoying bard dummy song system, they made a new bard instrument that negates that exact issue.

You're acting like an ideas person, they do read them and they do implement some things.

[Alhanelem]

"Stuff
That's a lot of words for nothing.



You're acting like an ideas person, they do read them and they do implement some things. I really have no idea where you draw any of your conclusions from. This statement makes no sense.

But most of the stuff we've asked for and got were going to be done anyway. Wardrobes chief among them. That was part of the plan all along. Merch? That didn't happen because of us, it happened because of the Japanese, as did most of the suggestions that were actually considered.
When did we ask for dark relics? Thread search turns up nothing.
Capacity camps were going to happen anyway
Fixes for lag was going to happen anyway. Or at least I really hope it was. Because that's not something we should have to ask for- Why should we get a subpar experience just because we aren't Japanese?

I never said we never got anything we ever asked for. Why are you talking to me as if I said that?

But face facts: Future updates are going to be much fewer and farther in between. We'll be lucky to get anything we ask for. And as far as this thread goes, they would have done this a long time ago if they had any intention of budging on this issue, as it's been requested for a long time.

Regardless, This wasn't even about whether or not we get things we ask for. It was about dev replies. And they've only gotten rarer with time. Which is exactly why I said we don't get them anymore, because we pretty much don't.

This line of conversation is rather funny, because historically i've constantly been called a white knight for SE. But I guess I have to yield that title to you.

[Sp1cyryan]

When someone makes a suggestion, we aren't making a demand. We are making a suggestion, if they add it great, if they don't oh well.

The replies of lol or they will never do that are worthless and only designed to demoralize people from asking.

We asked for a long time for something to be done about dropping ultra rare equip, they did it and we have trashcan.

We asked for more wardrobes, they added more.

We asked for fixes for the lag problems only impacting NA players in Ody, they fixed it.

We asked for more capacity camps, they did it and even added new monster skins and unlocked new areas with CN(s).

We asked for dark relics, they added them.

We asked for new merch, they added some.

We asked for Mieru fixes, they did.

We asked for some kind of fix for the annoying bard dummy song system, they made a new bard instrument that negates that exact issue.

You're acting like an ideas person, they do read them and they do implement some things.

<rolls eyes>

[Tarmarkvar]

Previously, somebody had presented a screenshot of an ASCII penis to this thread. So I reported it and then it was removed. So I guess the moderators DO exist.

[Sp1cyryan]

Previously, somebody had presented a screenshot of an ASCII penis to this thread. So I reported it and then it was removed. So I guess the moderators DO exist.

Removing only the grossest offenses is effectively the same thing.

[Tarmarkvar]

Removing only the grossest offenses is effectively the same thing.

Yes but you have to admit that this proves they exist, in the literal sense.

[Sp1cyryan]

Yes but you have to admit that this proves they exist, in the literal sense.

I was aware they existed and do nearly nothing before. Sure I am not alone there, but that is why we say they don't exist. It's a bit like leaving out tuna for a neighborhood animal you never see. Could it just be a stray cat? Sure, but it's just as easily a possum with rabies.

[Alhanelem]

Previously, somebody had presented a screenshot of an ASCII penis to this thread. So I reported it and then it was removed. So I guess the moderators DO exist.
I kinda wish I had the chance to see it, but it definitely wasn't me lol

[Pixela]

I don't really get the fascination with if they are around or not, of course they are. They pass stuff back if they think it's worth passing back.

The reason they don't really post anymore is because over the past 5-6 years our society has lost its collective mind, and anything anyone says that can be taken as being offensive to some random .0001% nobody turns into some massive controversy that can hurt the entire company and damage the share price. Even people who live in some other nations now are expected to conform and understand all the intricate nonsense of california liberals who find everything offensive and are waiting and ready to cause a massive stink about something on twitter.

Also because people act like children and if some community manager says something off the cuff, it will then be taken as a blood oath from jebus and people will lose their marbles if it turns out the devs didn't actually want to do that and they were wrong.

This is company wide, there are barely any official posts on XIV forums much either now. Same for blizzard and pretty much every company.

Years ago a GM would pop up in jeuno and talk with people and have a laugh. They are afraid of their own shadow now, they go 100% by the book and are smart to do so.

As for moderation, they moderated extremely hard years ago and it got to the point there were 3 people left that posted.

[Alhanelem]

I think big companies have been interacting with their community far less these days because they can't say anything without it being treated as gospel truth and if what happens doesn't match EXACTLY with what they say, they get immense backlash and it tends to be better just not to raise expectations so that when something does happen, people can be excited instead of whining (Speaking in general terms of game companies interacting with players less)

[Catmato]

california liberals who find everything offensive

This is satire, right? Have you seen the bud light controversy? All the book bans? Mr. Potato Head? Sexy M&Ms?

[Immortal]

Nope its the truth, thats just the reaction from people fed up with it only going in one direction and get back at them and let things be fair. Its pretty much true, you have to walk on eggshells these days so it makes sense for them.

[Pixela]

This is satire, right? Have you seen the bud light controversy? All the book bans? Mr. Potato Head? Sexy M&Ms?

To be clear, the right is no better but the left have more social and buisness power currently so they get their way more and the punishments are more severe. However yeah I should of just said it in a more generic way here.

It's more a problem with mass use of social media than one side or another in particular.

[Alhanelem]

Can we not bring politics into this?

[DoctooOkay]

Can we not bring politics into this?

No no, we need to bring some actual politics into this, instead of this empty ideological bickering. Call your Senator, write your Representative, Protest at your Governor's Residence. If we all work together we can bring the Omen Card exchange rate down. Reforged Artifact Armor +2 and +3 for all!

[Catmato]

No no, we need to bring some actual politics into this, instead of this empty ideological bickering. Call your Senator, write your Representative, Protest at your Governor's Residence. If we all work together we can bring the Omen Card exchange rate down. Reforged Artifact Armor +2 and +3 for all!

The most based take in the thread.

[Alhanelem]

No no, we need to bring some actual politics into this, instead of this empty ideological bickering. Call your Senator, write your Representative, Protest at your Governor's Residence. If we all work together we can bring the Omen Card exchange rate down. Reforged Artifact Armor +2 and +3 for all!
We''ll have to compromise and raise the rate of starstone exchanges and doubling the AH tax.

[Pixela]

Complained about Raminel april fools effect still showing under certain circumstances, fixed today.

[Sp1cyryan]

Can we not bring politics into this?

None of these people should engage in political discussion outside here anyway. They are clearly living in their own confirmation bias.

[Catmato]

None of these people should engage in political discussion outside here anyway. They are clearly living in their own confirmation bias.

What do you mean "those people"?!

https://i.zoomtventertainment.com/story/Tropic_Thunder_Robert_Downey_Jr.jpg?tr=w-400,h-300,fo-auto

[DoctooOkay]

Complained about Raminel april fools effect still showing under certain circumstances, fixed today.

Wow this thread really has just become a hodge-podge of whatever people have a bone to pick with inside or outside of the game.


We''ll have to compromise and raise the rate of starstone exchanges and doubling the AH tax.

Doubling the AH tax?! Do you want my children to starve?!

[Immortal]

No there is only a single poster on this site making things personal and being weird.

[Sp1cyryan]

No there is only a single poster on this site making things personal and being weird.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

[Pixela]

Wow this thread really has just become a hodge-podge of whatever people have a bone to pick with inside or outside of the game.

There is a narrative that they don't ever listen, they don't care, the sky is falling.

I'm pointing out they do read what we post.

[Sp1cyryan]

I'm pointing out they do read what we post.

And that is why they don't listen, and we are generally better off for it overall.

[Alhanelem]

And that is why they don't listen, and we are generally better off for it overall.
lol 567890

[Pixela]

And that is why they don't listen, and we are generally better off for it overall.

They do listen, they are under no obligation to do what we ask for.

[Alhanelem]

They do listen, they are under no obligation to do what we ask for.
You know that's exactly what they meant, you're just antagonizing.

[Sp1cyryan]

You know that's exactly what they meant, you're just antagonizing.

Lol 567890

[Pixela]

Can you two flirt somewhere else?

[Kylos]

I don't agree it needs to be changed. The only "quality of life" update I'd give to Omen would be to allow the trading of any 10 cards for one of your choice, but that would probably need a lot of work to change how the npc handles trades. Omen is old content and the campaigns help a lot. Play the game guys, like everyone else who had to farm their cards before you.

[Sp1cyryan]

Omen is so easy, and card campaigns are so frequent. People just don't seem to understand what a courtesy feature is. Perhaps it was just easier in the past where you had no such courtesy features and that was it.

[Gwydion]

Thank you for the omen campaign SE. I sincerely hope you'll consider adjusting the conversion ratio. Currently, it is 10:1 of the SAME card type. If you could reduce it to 5:1 of any card type, it would be a huge improvement and less annoying. It would mean that every 2 Omen runs (~5 cards) that I go as a much-needed Samurai or Bard, I can still trade the cards to be used on other jobs.

As it currently stands, I have a bunch of single cards, less than 10 currently and they are utterly useless. It is impractical that do an omen run for 1-2 cards to make 10 cards....to execute the 10:1 ratio, in order to obtain 1 card on the job I that I actually want. Please understand this.

Here is an example, as you can see, I'm not trying to game the system or ask for some incredibly unfair advantage. I am asking you to please be respectful of our time, our inventory and our patience.

https://i.imgur.com/jcKy41J.png

[FaithfulWafa]

Sorry for the thread bump, but I'm also struggling with a lot of random Omen cards that I cannot use in a more meaningful way. These are all random cards that I got from Troves and other places that drop single omen cards. I appreciate the gesture from the Omen campaign, but I don't know what to do with anything less than 10. It just seems wasteful.

https://i.imgur.com/URbPK9x.png

[Eth]

Given the age of the content, even an exchange rate of 2:1 would be reasonable.

[Alhanelem]

or here's an even crazier idea, just don't make them job specific in the first place. Most people are only going to play meta jobs, requiring that you be on the job just makes it hard to get those because meta.

[Stuzey]

The problem is, you're reducing want to do content, look I get you, I have thousands of cards, but what is the benefit to FFXI to make it quicker to do?

You have to look at the big picture, do you want the game to die quicker, or keep it hanging around?

[Gwydion]

The problem is, you're reducing want to do content, look I get you, I have thousands of cards, but what is the benefit to FFXI to make it quicker to do?

You have to look at the big picture, do you want the game to die quicker, or keep it hanging around?

I personally understand what you mean, but why does the alternative have to be "the game dies quicker"? If any 10 cards could be traded for 1 specific card, the game doesn't die faster, as a result, in my opinion, since people were never going to farm those cards to 10 in the first place.

Keeping that line of thinking: People don't even like to come as jobs to complete objectives. Every Omen shout is 15/18 people, leeching, and shouting for SAM/BRD/GEO for 6-step Skillchain, Song Buffs and 30K Magic Burst objective.

[Eth]

The game can die quicker from burnout and frustration as well as from content that is too easily completed.

I think the current 10 to 1 card exchange ratio is too punitive, and more likely to contribute to burnout and frustration.

[Gwydion]

The game can die quicker from burnout and frustration as well as from content that is too easily completed.

I think the current 10 to 1 card exchange ratio is too punitive, and more likely to contribute to burnout and frustration.

Yeah, we are in agreement there. I think Omen card exchanged rate can be safely modified without affecting player burnout or contributing to the game being completed too quickly

[Stuzey]

heh the good thing about a forum is we can discuss...

Yes just reduce the trade rate, it's old content, why make it harder for new players

[Stuzey]

Hopefully we can have new content