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Yoji_Fujito
05-10-2023, 02:17 PM
The latest FINAL FANTASY XI Digest is now available! The digest covers key features from the most recent version update. Check out the video, try the version update, and leave a feedback based on your experience of playing the new content.

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Uriah
05-10-2023, 04:07 PM
Great work causing problems or screwing up 6 consecutive monthly updates.

You do so little and still do it wrong. It impresses.

Sirmarki
05-10-2023, 04:12 PM
Monthly ROE's are completely blank?

EDIT: And Content > Ambuscade.

Pixela
05-11-2023, 12:01 AM
Ageist sucks, don't add it. poop emoji.

It was supposed to be a joke, leave it that way.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/60727-%E3%82%A8%E3%82%A4%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%81%AE%E8%89%B2%E3%82%92%E5%A4%89%E3%81%88%E3%81%A6%E3%81%8F%E3%81%A0%E3%81%95%E3%81%84

Also Raminel is bugged now, and when you come into range of him he shows the april fools smoke trails still for 1 second. Remove the effect.

Also RoE > content > Ambuscade > broken text on the top 2

Also I think you broke mipmapping.

Nice to see Matsui in the video.

Sp1cyryan
05-11-2023, 12:23 AM
Ignore Pixela and Uriah if you don't already.

Pixela
05-11-2023, 12:25 AM
https://i.imgur.com/K56QSTU.jpg

Sp1cyryan
05-11-2023, 01:18 AM
I hope everyone enjoys one of the greatest cosmetic items ever added to the game, and lockstyles the Aegist. May the 10th should be national Vana'diel wear your Aegist day.

Immortal
05-11-2023, 09:40 AM
Ignore Pixela and Uriah if you don't already.

Ignore this guy, drama alert.

Alhanelem
05-11-2023, 09:46 AM
Just ignore everybody. :D

Sp1cyryan
05-11-2023, 12:16 PM
Just ignore everybody. :D

FFXI in 2023.

Pain
05-11-2023, 03:21 PM
I have been enjoying the game as of now. I hopefully get the time to work on Voracious Resurgence. Unlike FF14 I love how diverse your jobs can be and the gearing system feels good and I get this accomplishment feeling that Final Fantasy 14 doesn't give me, because the gearing is FF14 feels stale and becomes glamour.

I don't want to be strong like FF14 Warrior of Light,who look pretty (glamour model), I want to be strong like Morimar who fight bears in the forest! FF11 God Warrior of Light!

Alhanelem
05-11-2023, 04:28 PM
because the gearing is FF14 feels stale and becomes glamour.That's because FFXIV isn't really about gearing at all. It's about completing challenges and collecting things. If you can seperate yourself from the need to have fancy stats you can see there's a lot more to ALL MMOs, even FFXI, than gearing. Gearing is just a progression mechanic. FFXI dresses it up a lot more than the average game but it's still just a means to an end.

That's not to say gearing is meaningless, but I feel like people put too much weight on it. There's a lot more to FFXI and to all MMOs than gathering gear and pumping stats.



I don't want to be strong like FF14 Warrior of Light,who look pretty (glamour model), I want to be strong like Morimar who fight bears in the forest! FF11 God Warrior of Light! This ... makes no sense at all. You want to look ugly or gritty? You can certainly do that in FFXIV if you want to. And you can fight bears in forests too. I find there is little correlation between "looking pretty" and strength. in fact in most games today it seems like strength is inversely proportional to how much clothing or armor you're wearing.

Also... FFXI doesn't really have bears. I don't recall Morimar ever fighting one either.

Pixela
05-11-2023, 10:59 PM
FFXI doesn't really have bears. I don't recall Morimar ever fighting one either.

it's a metaphor for aesthetic and strength

https://i.imgur.com/oHDHZja.jpg

Sp1cyryan
05-11-2023, 11:39 PM
it's a metaphor for aesthetic and strength

https://i.imgur.com/oHDHZja.jpg

Oh look, you are posting more cringe and poor memes.

Teraphim
05-11-2023, 11:42 PM
Great work causing problems or screwing up 6 consecutive monthly updates.

You do so little and still do it wrong. It impresses.

Why are you even here?


Ageist sucks, don't add it. poop emoji.

It was supposed to be a joke, leave it that way.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/60727-%E3%82%A8%E3%82%A4%E3%82%B8%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%81%AE%E8%89%B2%E3%82%92%E5%A4%89%E3%81%88%E3%81%A6%E3%81%8F%E3%81%A0%E3%81%95%E3%81%84

Also Raminel is bugged now, and when you come into range of him he shows the april fools smoke trails still for 1 second. Remove the effect.

Also RoE > content > Ambuscade > broken text on the top 2

Also I think you broke mipmapping.

Nice to see Matsui in the video.

Oh no! They added a fun cosmetic item to the game! Whatever shall we do? It has more cultural meaning for Japanese players so I get it's not to your taste, but here's the best part: You don't have to get it. It's completely optional!

Sp1cyryan
05-11-2023, 11:46 PM
Why are you even here?



Oh no! They added a fun cosmetic item to the game! Whatever shall we do? It has more cultural meaning for Japanese players so I get it's not to your taste, but here's the best part: You don't have to get it. It's completely optional!

It's just possibly a matter of ASD.

Pixela
05-12-2023, 12:03 AM
It's just possibly a matter of ASD.

You think it's funny to mock people with learning disabilities?

Pixela
05-12-2023, 12:06 AM
You don't have to get it. It's completely optional!

Stupid take, people like you used this in other games when they added cash shop outfits. The point is you have to see it.

Regardless, it's in the game now and so that's the end of the discussion.

Sp1cyryan
05-12-2023, 12:15 AM
You think it's funny to mock people with learning disabilities?

That isn't mockery. Understand the difference.

Pain
05-12-2023, 12:32 AM
That's because FFXIV isn't really about gearing at all. It's about completing challenges and collecting things. If you can seperate yourself from the need to have fancy stats you can see there's a lot more to ALL MMOs, even FFXI, than gearing. Gearing is just a progression mechanic. FFXI dresses it up a lot more than the average game but it's still just a means to an end.

That's not to say gearing is meaningless, but I feel like people put too much weight on it. There's a lot more to FFXI and to all MMOs than gathering gear and pumping stats.

True FF14 feels more as of a single player game, I rarely talk to players Unless I PvP and they barley respond, pretty anti social "MMO" I do say from experience from 1.0 until now. From my experience of MMO's I always party up with someone and talk and progress with them, however in FF14 reminds me of WoW and very little communication and recycled content.

In every MMO gearing has always been a progression mechanic, I remember getting good rare gear In Ultima Online or Dark of Camelot that really helped pump your character and it feels good getting something rare unlike FF14 it feels stale and I have done Ultimates in FF14 and I do not feel it or some kind of flex in getting something that will eventually be Glamour.

The MMO games that I've played before FF11 were great at the time and FF11 feels different for me as I see it a stair step getting stronger and going up and yes eventually they'll be a cap but their is so many other jobs to work on aswell that feels good investing on your character.

Pain
05-12-2023, 12:41 AM
This ... makes no sense at all. You want to look ugly or gritty? You can certainly do that in FFXIV if you want to. And you can fight bears in forests too. I find there is little correlation between "looking pretty" and strength. in fact in most games today it seems like strength is inversely proportional to how much clothing or armor you're wearing.

Also... FFXI doesn't really have bears. I don't recall Morimar ever fighting one either.

I know FF11 does not have bears lol my dude...
It's basically What I want is "Glam that I can go Ham" on mobs. I was referring to a tiktok video with the statement. ("I don't want to look strong like men who look pretty." "I want to be strong like b*$@* who fight bears in the forest.")

Glam is nice but with no stats it feels useless.

Pixela
05-12-2023, 12:52 AM
That isn't mockery. Understand the difference.

Lucky escape, I was ready to report you to twitter.

Pain
05-12-2023, 01:08 AM
You get it!

Immortal
05-12-2023, 09:50 AM
It's just possibly a matter of ASD.

You would know that

Alhanelem
05-12-2023, 11:51 AM
Glam is nice but with no stats it feels useless. If it makes your avatar fit your image then it is not useless. I mean, it's fine if you don't want to customize your character in this way, but don't hate on other people for valuing their character's appearance.

Alhanelem
05-12-2023, 11:57 AM
True FF14 feels more as of a single player game, I rarely talk to players Unless I PvP and they barley respond, pretty anti social "MMO" I do say from experience from 1.0 until now. From my experience of MMO's I always party up with someone and talk and progress with them, however in FF14 reminds me of WoW and very little communication and recycled content.

In every MMO gearing has always been a progression mechanic, I remember getting good rare gear In Ultima Online or Dark of Camelot that really helped pump your character and it feels good getting something rare unlike FF14 it feels stale and I have done Ultimates in FF14 and I do not feel it or some kind of flex in getting something that will eventually be Glamour.

The MMO games that I've played before FF11 were great at the time and FF11 feels different for me as I see it a stair step getting stronger and going up and yes eventually they'll be a cap but their is so many other jobs to work on aswell that feels good investing on your character.
I rarely talk to other people much within the game regardless. We talked a lot in FFXI because we had lots of time to- Combat was REALLY slow paced in the old days and especially in the early levels, and it was easy to type chats to each other when you didn't need to press many buttons and it took like 1-2 minutes to kill a snipper. FFXI still requires far less inputs in combat than most games. FFXIV on the other hand, you require constant attention to keep moving and performing frequent actions, so chatting is more difficult. In the end, it's a game we're playing not a chat room. That doesn't make it a "solo game," at least not any more than FFXI already is. But in all actuality, there's tons of chatting and roleplay, it just doesn't take place in combat. You and most people are searching for the community in the wrong place.

As far as "recycled content," FFXIV doesn't have a lot of that, certainly not any more than FFXI does- and yes, FFXI recycles a lot of content and has a lot of copypasta in its level design (Though this is partially due to the technical limitations of the PS2 era, you couldnt use too many models or textures because of memory limitations). As for being reminded of WoW, I'm not sure what the problem with that is? WoW was a very successful game when it came out and is still doing remarkably well. While I don't play it, I don't understand this hate. That game has come a long way and there is a lot to do.



In Ultima Online or Dark of Camelot that really helped pump your character and it feels good getting something rare unlike FF14 it feels stale and I have done Ultimates in FF14 and I do not feel it or some kind of flex in getting something that will eventually be Glamour.
FFXIV has plenty of rare stuff, and I don't see how the use of an item has any relevance if people still want it. As I told someone in another thread, if you don't care about customizing your character, that's fine, but lots of people do and looks matter more to them than stats.

In fact, the less functional stuff is in FFXIV, the harder it tends to be to obtain. The reason why things stay this way is most people like it. it's fun collecting different stuff and creating a unique appearance from it. There is so much gear in FFXIV that it's very easy to create something totally unique from everyone else.

And you may have forgotten but FFXI has had vanity items for a very long time, but they were never really used until lockstyle was introduced, because your stats were tied to your appearance, and you were forced to wear ugly gear if it had stats you needed.

I remember when the yinyang robe was popular for summoner and I never actually got it because I hated how it looked- it was low level monk armor and I thought that was stupid. So while you may not care much about appearances, lots of people do. I was so happy for the lockstyle feature to be added in FFXI because it finally meant I could make my character look good without losing stats. And this is why practically every game with gear has a "transmog" system so you can wear the gear you like without worrying about it making you weaker.

Pixela
05-12-2023, 06:29 PM
To compare XI and XIV.

XI is the definition of less is more.

XIV is annoying and overwhelming of your thoughts, it's constantly keeping you busy with rotations, dailies, quest counters and stuff you have to do to the point you can't just zone out and enjoy the moment. It's like a stressful job with lots of busy work.

XI allows you to have downtime and is the better for it, there are high engagement things to do like endgame stuff and long goals to work on but it's ultimately a very relaxing universe to be in.

Pain
05-12-2023, 09:11 PM
If it makes your avatar fit your image then it is not useless. I mean, it's fine if you don't want to customize your character in this way, but don't hate on other people for valuing their character's appearance.

I'm just trying to save space by combination of both Glam & stats. But I'm not looking to be some model in a MMO.

Pain
05-12-2023, 09:58 PM
I rarely talk to other people much within the game regardless. We talked a lot in FFXI because we had lots of time to- Combat was REALLY slow paced in the old days and especially in the early levels, and it was easy to type chats to each other when you didn't need to press many buttons and it took like 1-2 minutes to kill a snipper. FFXI still requires far less inputs in combat than most games. FFXIV on the other hand, you require constant attention to keep moving and performing frequent actions, so chatting is more difficult. In the end, it's a game we're playing not a chat room. That doesn't make it a "solo game," at least not any more than FFXI already is. But in all actuality, there's tons of chatting and roleplay, it just doesn't take place in combat. You and most people are searching for the community in the wrong place.

As far as "recycled content," FFXIV doesn't have a lot of that, certainly not any more than FFXI does- and yes, FFXI recycles a lot of content and has a lot of copypasta in its level design (Though this is partially due to the technical limitations of the PS2 era, you couldnt use too many models or textures because of memory limitations). As for being reminded of WoW, I'm not sure what the problem with that is? WoW was a very successful game when it came out and is still doing remarkably well. While I don't play it, I don't understand this hate. That game has come a long way and there is a lot to do.


FFXIV has plenty of rare stuff, and I don't see how the use of an item has any relevance if people still want it. As I told someone in another thread, if you don't care about customizing your character, that's fine, but lots of people do and looks matter more to them than stats.

In fact, the less functional stuff is in FFXIV, the harder it tends to be to obtain. The reason why things stay this way is most people like it. it's fun collecting different stuff and creating a unique appearance from it. There is so much gear in FFXIV that it's very easy to create something totally unique from everyone else.

And you may have forgotten but FFXI has had vanity items for a very long time, but they were never really used until lockstyle was introduced, because your stats were tied to your appearance, and you were forced to wear ugly gear if it had stats you needed.

I remember when the yinyang robe was popular for summoner and I never actually got it because I hated how it looked- it was low level monk armor and I thought that was stupid. So while you may not care much about appearances, lots of people do. I was so happy for the lockstyle feature to be added in FFXI because it finally meant I could make my character look good without losing stats. And this is why practically every game with gear has a "transmog" system so you can wear the gear you like without worrying about it making you weaker.

I'm just wanting to play with MMO gamers and not a SIMS game you feel me? Glam is nice and it's cool to look awesome, however I would love it to be a combination of both so save space, but tbh I'm just enjoying the diversity of how jobs are in FF11 then FF14 aswell.

FF14 jobs are stuck with 1 weapon that is their main weapon that goes with their class. FF11 You can use different weapons and gear swap when necessary in mid combat and I beleive other mmo's have similarity of changing weapons in mid combat and this is something I would love for FF14 aswell. But hey we can ask for so much.

Just sharing a bit of my experience of MMO's that I have played before & after and see the difference from other MMO's that resemble WoW and beyond. Not stating FF11 is the best MMO, it just hits different.

Sp1cyryan
05-12-2023, 10:10 PM
You would know that

Your one dimensional attempts at reversals are as impressive as they have always been.

Alhanelem
05-13-2023, 01:09 AM
I'm just trying to save space by combination of both Glam & stats. But I'm not looking to be some model in a MMO.
The whole point of lockstyle (XI) and the glamour system (XIV) is you don't have to find the best combination. Since in FFXI lockstyled sets don't need to be on your person, and in FFXIV, there's a massive, dedicated space for equipment to be used as glamour, you don't really need to save space.

Zehira
05-13-2023, 02:31 AM
Combat was REALLY slow paced in the old days and especially in the early levels, and it was easy to type chats to each other when you didn't need to press many buttons and it took like 1-2 minutes to kill a snipper.

That's my favorite type of MMORPG. I enjoy exploring in Vana'diel and taking my time to do stuff in slow progress. No need to rush to the endgame to get bored and quit. That was when most of the social platforms were still new and most of us didn't have one but hey there is a plenty of players still doing like the old days. They help each other, work, tip a WHM for the teleportation, listen to leader's battle plan, etc.. The economy is very healthy even without RMT and bots. In retail, you don't have to trust us anymore since SE already brought you your trusts to play with.

In XIV, you were supposed to have friends you know and love to able to keep enjoying the game. Glam is one of things. We make many screenshots together of doing weird and kinky stuff for fun. That's how things are even though XIV is the game that is very hard for most people to find the right place they want to be in. I have seen several players constantly jumped into different FCs and still felt disappointed. Duty Finder/Party Finder exist for that reason but most of them hate it and beg us to play with them or nothing.

Pain
05-13-2023, 03:55 AM
That's my favorite type of MMORPG. I enjoy exploring in Vana'diel and taking my time to do stuff in slow progress. No need to rush to the endgame to get bored and quit. That was when most of the social platforms were still new and most of us didn't have one but hey there is a plenty of players still doing like the old days. They help each other, work, tip a WHM for the teleportation, listen to leader's battle plan, etc.. The economy is very healthy even without RMT and bots. In retail, you don't have to trust us anymore since SE already brought you your trusts to play with.

In XIV, you were supposed to have friends you know and love to able to keep enjoying the game. Glam is one of things. We make many screenshots together of doing weird and kinky stuff for fun. That's how things are even though XIV is the game that is very hard for most people to find the right place they want to be in. I have seen several players constantly jumped into different FCs and still felt disappointed. Duty Finder/Party Finder exist for that reason but most of them hate it and beg us to play with them or nothing.

I love a medium progress myself, not too fast or too slow, 1 of the reasons I play retail. Happy gaming!

Alhanelem
05-13-2023, 09:35 AM
In XIV, you were supposed to have friends you know and love to able to keep enjoying the game. Glam is one of things. We make many screenshots together of doing weird and kinky stuff for fun. That's how things are even though XIV is the game that is very hard for most people to find the right place they want to be in. I have seen several players constantly jumped into different FCs and still felt disappointed. Duty Finder/Party Finder exist for that reason but most of them hate it and beg us to play with them or nothing. What I'm trying to get at though is that a lot of ppl think FFXIV has no social interaction and call it a "solo MMO," but that's really far from the truth. There is tons of social activity, it's simply that dungeons and boss fights are not where the social activity takes place, because that's not easy to do. You can't type a chat during a battle without compromising your performance (whereas in FFXI, it isn't hard to manage). Social activity happens in towns and company/personal estate halls. People hold social functions 24 7, people have dance nights, game nights (within a game lol), contests, shops, brothels whatever you can think of, it happens in the game. FFXI is simply much more focused on action so there is less oppertunity to socialize during battle content.

That said, I like the somewhat more upbeat pace that FFXI moved towards into its later years. I think current retail strikes a decent balance between the snails pace of yore and the rapid action of modern MMOs, and is one reason among many that I prefer the current live game to the idea of playing a "classic" server.

Pain
05-13-2023, 10:57 AM
What I'm trying to get at though is that a lot of ppl think FFXIV has no social interaction and call it a "solo MMO," but that's really far from the truth. There is tons of social activity, it's simply that dungeons and boss fights are not where the social activity takes place, because that's not easy to do. You can't type a chat during a battle without compromising your performance (whereas in FFXI, it isn't hard to manage). Social activity happens in towns and company/personal estate halls. People hold social functions 24 7, people have dance nights, game nights (within a game lol), contests, shops, brothels whatever you can think of, it happens in the game. FFXI is simply much more focused on action so there is less oppertunity to socialize during battle content.

That said, I like the somewhat more upbeat pace that FFXI moved towards into its later years. I think current retail strikes a decent balance between the snails pace of yore and the rapid action of modern MMOs, and is one reason among many that I prefer the current live game to the idea of playing a "classic" server.

Honestly it's not the ingame battles, its the community outside of battles. They rather go afk in a rp club then go do some savage or pvp lol.

Zehira
05-13-2023, 12:59 PM
I love a medium progress myself, not too fast or too slow, 1 of the reasons I play retail. Happy gaming!

Happy gaming to you too! ;)

Alhanelem
05-13-2023, 01:58 PM
Honestly it's not the ingame battles, its the community outside of battles. They rather go afk in a rp club then go do some savage or pvp lol. That's jsut where you meet people, interact and relax. If you meet the right people, you might indeed do those things. Community interaction is a choice, it doesn't happen unless you seek it out.

Pixela
05-13-2023, 10:27 PM
That's jsut where you meet people, interact and relax. If you meet the right people, you might indeed do those things. Community interaction is a choice, it doesn't happen unless you seek it out.

Do you dance in the nightclubs and /lean on the walls? I bet you do, you filthy animal.

Alhanelem
05-14-2023, 12:17 PM
Do you dance in the nightclubs and /lean on the walls? I bet you do, you filthy animal.
I don't participate in any of this stuff. I simply know it exists.

Zuidar
05-16-2023, 06:22 AM
Another update with no increase to the maximum cap of Sortie's Gallimaufry. SE Devs, any plans to address this?

Alhanelem
05-16-2023, 09:36 AM
Are you going to post those exact words every month?

Tarmarkvar
05-16-2023, 08:46 PM
Another update with no increase to the maximum cap of Sortie's Gallimaufry. SE Devs, any plans to address this?

I don't understand why this would be a problem. If you are hitting the gallimaufry cap, why don't you just buy something with it? Like, start hoarding starstones? If you have nothing to buy, why are you still doing Sortie?

Having said that, it looks like the update later this month is going to introduce another stage in prime weapons, so the chances are good this will come with an increase. Or at least give you something new to spend the gallimaufry on.

By the way, did you know that "gallimaufry" is literally just a fancy word for "stuff"? More accurately, it means "a jumble of things". Ruspix is literally selling things in exchange for random dungeon garbage.

Zuidar
05-16-2023, 11:00 PM
Are you going to post those exact words every month?

No I won't do that


I don't understand why this would be a problem. If you are hitting the gallimaufry cap, why don't you just buy something with it? Like, start hoarding starstones? If you have nothing to buy, why are you still doing Sortie?

Having said that, it looks like the update later this month is going to introduce another stage in prime weapons, so the chances are good this will come with an increase. Or at least give you something new to spend the gallimaufry on.

By the way, did you know that "gallimaufry" is literally just a fancy word for "stuff"? More accurately, it means "a jumble of things". Ruspix is literally selling things in exchange for random dungeon garbage.

I apologize for all that, I haven't played in a few months so I don't have a lot of starstones or Galli. But in light of TVR missions coming to a conclusion and months since Sortie released, that could be a possible thing right?

Uriah
05-17-2023, 04:41 AM
Galli cap is officially raising, congrats, you'll wish you hadn't wished for that one, believe it.

pipz
05-17-2023, 08:46 AM
I think with all the new content for established players. I think it would be a perfect time to make FFXI free to play up to level 75 with access to wotg content. I think it would help keep interest in the game for years to come. I have been loving the new storyline.

Sirmarki
05-17-2023, 04:18 PM
I think with all the new content for established players. I think it would be a perfect time to make FFXI free to play up to level 75 with access to wotg content. I think it would help keep interest in the game for years to come. I have been loving the new storyline.

I'll quote yesterdays post on POL:

"Starting this spring, we significantly scaled down development to create a more realistic roadmap for the game. Though the amount of new content will gradually decline over time, we're cooking up some new things that should help keep you motivated to play"

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11eu/detail/20526/detail.html

Sirmarki
05-17-2023, 04:19 PM
Galli cap is officially raising

Is it?....

Alhanelem
05-17-2023, 05:10 PM
Dunno where he's getting that.

BobbinT
05-17-2023, 05:11 PM
I think with all the new content for established players. I think it would be a perfect time to make FFXI free to play up to level 75 with access to wotg content. I think it would help keep interest in the game for years to come. I have been loving the new storyline.


75 cap equivalent would be ToAU, WotG cap is 99 (non ilvl), it'll murder players with lvl 75 cap. ^^;

Also again, we do currently has return home campaign running, which is free to play. Maybe you're thinking about unlimited free trial instead, like FF14 does?

Sp1cyryan
05-17-2023, 10:04 PM
Is it?....

100,000,000

Catmato
05-18-2023, 12:23 AM
75 cap equivalent would be ToAU, WotG cap is 99 (non ilvl), it'll murder players with lvl 75 cap. ^^;

The vast majority of WotG (campaign, most missions) is 75 era.

jasnekholin
05-24-2023, 08:56 PM
Even the stage 3 Prime weapon requirements are absurd. I hate to imagine stages 4 and 5. Extremely dissatisfied that you think so little of our free time.

Sp1cyryan
05-24-2023, 10:19 PM
Even the stage 3 Prime weapon requirements are absurd. I hate to imagine stages 4 and 5. Extremely dissatisfied that you think so little of our free time.

Ultimate weapons aren't supposed to be something you pay a Merc for in a weekend. The requirements are more or less correct. If you can't do an event that already existed for an hour. Not only is your criticism clearly too late, but it's not for you anyway.

jasnekholin
05-24-2023, 10:39 PM
thanks spicy, don't expect anything less from you.

ergon are the only weapons with a similar time gate, and that's for the whole weapon (plus the one you didn't pick, you can do right away). this is just one of 3 final stages. its not cool at all.

Tarmarkvar
05-24-2023, 11:12 PM
thanks spicy, don't expect anything less from you.

ergon are the only weapons with a similar time gate, and that's for the whole weapon (plus the one you didn't pick, you can do right away). this is just one of 3 final stages. its not cool at all.

Have you considered just NOT having them? 30 hours of effort for a brand new, cutting edge weapon is perfectly reasonable. Before they lifted the once per day restriction on Dynamis and Salvage, relics and mythics were a multi-month effort for the currency portion.

It's weird that you talk about this as some onerous new work assignment. It's a video game -- a leisure activity. If you want Prime weapons and are willing to put in the effort, go for it. If the time commitment is too much for you, there are still relics, mythics, empyreans, aeonics, those Ambuscade weapons, and a host of other decent weapons. Why would you feel the need to go for a Prime weapon on something you've been playing forever anyway? I've got an R15 Spharai on my MNK and subsequently have no interest in any other weapon for it.

Haxetcetera
05-24-2023, 11:27 PM
Ultimate weapons aren't supposed to be something you pay a Merc for in a weekend. The requirements are more or less correct. If you can't do an event that already existed for an hour. Not only is your criticism clearly too late, but it's not for you anyway.

It's not really about being Merced. I personally don't mind the time gate as it's content to do. However, this forces you to pretty much choose between focusing on your Prime weapon or completing Empy +2/3 upgrades which seems kinda wrong to me. Not only as someone who has returned to the game recently but also for anyone that starts playing the game. I don't really understand why the gate couldn't be the drites. Ultimate weapons should have ultimate requirements but it usually doesn't take away from being able to concurrently do other content (upgrades in this case). Correct me if I'm wrong.

Sp1cyryan
05-24-2023, 11:47 PM
It's not really about being Merced. I personally don't mind the time gate as it's content to do. However, this forces you to pretty much choose between focusing on your Prime weapon or completing Empy +2/3 upgrades which seems kinda wrong to me. Not only as someone who has returned to the game recently but also for anyone that starts playing the game. I don't really understand why the gate couldn't be the drites. Ultimate weapons should have ultimate requirements but it usually doesn't take away from being able to concurrently do other content (upgrades in this case). Correct me if I'm wrong.

You just choose to make armor or weapons.

People are going to need to accept these weapons either aren't for them. Which is no big deal as plenty of other vastly quicker weapons exist. Or that it will take a long time.

Nothing here is unexpected.


thanks spicy, don't expect anything less from you.

ergon are the only weapons with a similar time gate, and that's for the whole weapon (plus the one you didn't pick, you can do right away). this is just one of 3 final stages. its not cool at all.

Weapon likely isn't for you.

Gwydion
05-24-2023, 11:57 PM
Hi SE,
On behalf of a new player, who won't be getting to this content soon, we are all excited to finish VR missions in the future. This question is unrelated to the update but is a simple one:

(1.) Would you consider making the Goblin Skillchain mini-game available permanently? It was an enjoyable and engaging tool to better understand skillchains. I am happy to see the Mandragora mini-game in various towns as well.
(2.) Would it be possible to make vanity items from past years available, like Tidal Talisman, Moogle cap (Rainbow/Gold Mog Pell), etc?

Thank you

jasnekholin
05-25-2023, 01:03 AM
Weapon likely isn't for you.

it shouldn't be for anyone, that's the point. 20 years ago when we were kids maybe, but now? ffxi people all enjoy being given long arduos tasks for the enjoyment both along the way and when finished, but you gotta draw the line somewhere or its just ridiculous.

Sp1cyryan
05-25-2023, 02:39 AM
it shouldn't be for anyone, that's the point. 20 years ago when we were kids maybe, but now? ffxi people all enjoy being given long arduos tasks for the enjoyment both along the way and when finished, but you gotta draw the line somewhere or its just ridiculous.

Perhaps the game is no longer for you then?

Idk what to tell you. It's a long term objective. That is the point. If you have time to do Sortie then you have time to work towards one.

Alhanelem
05-25-2023, 04:43 AM
Honestly it's a problem if the game is no longer for people who have been playing it. That means the game loses players and continues to shrink.

There are already tons of long term goals in the game,they should have been focusing on making the game more fun for people who can't commit an extreme level of time investment.

Sp1cyryan
05-25-2023, 05:02 AM
Honestly it's a problem if the game is no longer for people who have been playing it. That means the game loses players and continues to shrink.

There are already tons of long term goals in the game,they should have been focusing on making the game more fun for people who can't commit an extreme level of time investment.

People, particularly those who frequent this board, and think they will be heard or something ridiculous. Are perpetually complaining about every change to the game.

jasnekholin
05-25-2023, 05:54 AM
give gallimaufry from other content, make it tradable.

there, that's my feedback, for what little good it does. thank you for your consideration.

Catmato
05-25-2023, 06:31 AM
People, particularly those who frequent this board, and think they will be heard or something ridiculous. Are perpetually complaining about every change to the game.

People typically don't post when they're content. Do you want the forums to just be full of "Nice update, SE! Keep up the good work!"? Or do you just want them to be closed altogether?

Immortal
05-25-2023, 10:40 AM
People, particularly those who frequent this board, and think they will be heard or something ridiculous. Are perpetually complaining about every change to the game.

Then why in the world are you posting? lol


People typically don't post when they're content. Do you want the forums to just be full of "Nice update, SE! Keep up the good work!"? Or do you just want them to be closed altogether?

He just wants them to be closed, hes going thru some doomer phase where he wants to burn everything around him. People should just begin blocking him, hes honestly trolling at this point. Just constantly being contrarian to literally every singe post and offers nothing constructive or thought provoking.

BobbinT
05-25-2023, 11:29 AM
The vast majority of WotG (campaign, most missions) is 75 era.


I started mine on WotG days. Only reason 75 (or less) ppl goes there either to grind or leech xp, usually on worm parties @ La Theine abby. And there are mobs there also have true aggro type. Even when we're in alliance parties, some mobs there can still give hard times. I even got mocked back then when joining on my "obviously" abby pink set. So yeah, even if some missions on abby "might" only requires lvl 75, can't imagine one having fun getting thru those dangerous swarm of mobs which has faster repop times, over trying to grind xp to lvl 99.

ManaKing
05-25-2023, 11:49 AM
Any chance we can knock the stage 3 galli costs down to like 250k~500k and tack it onto the stage 4? It would be nice to try out the new WSs and since you can only use them in Sortie on stage 3, we'd have more fun while we were in there.

Sp1cyryan
05-25-2023, 01:31 PM
Then why in the world are you posting? lol

What a silly attempt at a dig.

On another note, it isn't healthy to explain everything away as "doomer" or "trolling", Draylo. It is a really bad habit of oversimplification at best and mischaracterization for convenience.

Alhanelem
05-25-2023, 06:10 PM
People typically don't post when they're content. Do you want the forums to just be full of "Nice update, SE! Keep up the good work!"? Or do you just want them to be closed altogether?
Much as I hate to say so, pretty much the primary purpose of forums is to complain. :D

leia
05-25-2023, 07:34 PM
Best choice SE has made, like returners do not work togather to clear bosses in odyssey, just pay merc then Pay for RP, that killed odyssey experience as content, as the Escha clears, now totaly relied on mercenry, etc.


Just do it on your own pace, FFXI is not a race.

30 days = 1m Galli or 20 days if you get 50k galli a run.

Just enjoy your time online with your friends.

Sp1cyryan
05-25-2023, 10:56 PM
Best choice SE has made, like returners do not work togather to clear bosses in odyssey, just pay merc then Pay for RP, that killed odyssey experience as content, as the Escha clears, now totaly relied on mercenry, etc.


Just do it on your own pace, FFXI is not a race.

30 days = 1m Galli or 20 days if you get 50k galli a run.

Just enjoy your time online with your friends.

This is along the lines of how I feel about this content.

If anyone thinks the rampant mercing and botting didn't influence how this was created. Then they will only be left fuming more that they can't circumvent all this so easily as the rest of the weapons.

BobbinT
05-26-2023, 12:57 PM
Best choice SE has made, like returners do not work togather to clear bosses in odyssey, just pay merc then Pay for RP, that killed odyssey experience as content, as the Escha clears, now totaly relied on mercenry, etc.


I don't see how this would even possible, considering returnee like mine never has many gils to even think to pay for mercs. At best to do is cashing out weekly sparks/accolades, which is not really alot. :confused:

BobbinT
05-26-2023, 01:04 PM
People typically don't post when they're content. Do you want the forums to just be full of "Nice update, SE! Keep up the good work!"? Or do you just want them to be closed altogether?


Funny... think I still spot post about gratitudes on forums, tho admittedly mostly on more popular MMO forum. FF14 for example, ppl been praising left & right when shadowbringers & endwalker came out, or when mod did exceptionally well. Even FF11 did receives overall praises as well when Rhapsodies delivers.

Hunewearl
05-27-2023, 12:08 AM
(2.) Would it be possible to make vanity items from past years available, like Tidal Talisman, Moogle cap (Rainbow/Gold Mog Pell), etc?
I wouldn't expect most paid/limited items to make a come back but it'd be nice. A slap in the face to people back then, but nice.


I don't see how this would even possible, considering returnee like mine never has many gils to even think to pay for mercs. At best to do is cashing out weekly sparks/accolades, which is not really alot. :confused:Money is easy to make in this game, dedicate a few days to it, maybe a week if you're hungry, and you'll have enough money to merc anything you want.

Sirmarki
05-27-2023, 10:24 PM
and you'll have enough money to merc anything you want.

Using Mercs is pathetic full stop. People were/are mercing Chaos for something like 25 million gil. I did it with two others in Ambuscade gear. Seriously.

Tarmarkvar
05-27-2023, 11:35 PM
Using Mercs is pathetic full stop. People were/are mercing Chaos for something like 25 million gil. I did it with two others in Ambuscade gear. Seriously.

25 million seems awfully steep. The fight is definitely harder than everything else in Voracious Resurgence, but it's not exactly top tier elite content. On Bahamut, people were hanging around the entry point offering help. I got wrecked the first two times simply because we didn't have a healer (on account of that requirement to have the stage 2 prime weapon equipped). Then I burned 20,000 gallimaufry on my WHM to get the club and beat it the 3rd time with 5 strangers from another linkshell.

That's the thing about fights for storyline stuff. People are always more willing to help out with it. Maybe because it's just a one and done thing that doesn't take a lot of time.

Armarc
05-28-2023, 12:49 AM
25 million seems awfully steep. The fight is definitely harder than everything else in Voracious Resurgence, but it's not exactly top tier elite content. On Bahamut, people were hanging around the entry point offering help. I got wrecked the first two times simply because we didn't have a healer (on account of that requirement to have the stage 2 prime weapon equipped). Then I burned 20,000 gallimaufry on my WHM to get the club and beat it the 3rd time with 5 strangers from another linkshell.

That's the thing about fights for storyline stuff. People are always more willing to help out with it. Maybe because it's just a one and done thing that doesn't take a lot of time.


Sudden Lunge works and makes the fight a complete joke. You won't even see a Fetter.

Tarmarkvar
05-28-2023, 10:02 AM
Sudden Lunge works and makes the fight a complete joke. You won't even see a Fetter.

I heard that. I wish the BLU that was in my group had known that. But I did the fight within like 12 hours after it was released.

Sirmarki
05-28-2023, 04:08 PM
25 million seems awfully steep. The fight is definitely harder than everything else in Voracious Resurgence, but it's not exactly top tier elite content.

I found that it was all about how quickly you recall trusts back up.

Pixela
05-30-2023, 11:13 PM
I would like to ask this question please:

In 2022 in the AMA someone asked this question and we were given this answer:


With the curation of new content like Voracious Resurgence, are there any plans on implementing new zones?


A: We're preparing a battle area with an all-new appearance.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxi/comments/uwcrva/20th_vanaversary_official_ffxi_developer_ama_with/i9quptn/

All I would like to ask is, was this in relation to the BCNM areas we fight Chaos or was it something else? also if it was something else is that still in production / to be released or has it been shelved?

Sp1cyryan
05-31-2023, 12:12 AM
I would like to ask this question please:

In 2022 in the AMA someone asked this question and we were given this answer:





https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxi/comments/uwcrva/20th_vanaversary_official_ffxi_developer_ama_with/i9quptn/

All I would like to ask is, was this in relation to the BCNM areas we fight Chaos or was it something else? also if it was something else is that still in production / to be released or has it been shelved?

Probably Chaos, but you know the place to ask (and obviously not be answered) is in a thread of it's own, and not the digest.

Gwydion
05-31-2023, 02:39 PM
I wouldn't expect most paid/limited items to make a come back but it'd be nice. A slap in the face to people back then, but nice.

Money is easy to make in this game, dedicate a few days to it, maybe a week if you're hungry, and you'll have enough money to merc anything you want.

I don't think it's a slap in the face. Many paid/limited items were only intended to be sold in Japan (unless it was a conference held in NA, but not likely). Some folks who have these items are just lucky importers or happen to originate from Japan.

Pixela
06-01-2023, 12:16 AM
Probably Chaos

I think so too but would be nice to be told that's what they meant.

Sp1cyryan
06-01-2023, 12:42 AM
I think so too but would be nice to be told that's what they meant.

You know that won't happen. They don't respond like that, ever.

Pixela
06-01-2023, 06:46 PM
I know the CM team reads these posts and I know they can ask the question if they want to, I'm chancing they do so.

Alhanelem
06-01-2023, 07:04 PM
I know the CM team reads these posts and I know they can ask the question if they want to, I'm chancing they do so.
I'd bet a winning Powerball ticket against them doing so.

Pixela
06-01-2023, 09:30 PM
I don't expect them to, and I kind of understand why they wouldn't (it's easier for JP CM teams to reply to stuff) but it was minimal effort to ask.

Better to have a 1% chance of something by asking, than a 100% of nothing by not.

Sp1cyryan
06-01-2023, 11:34 PM
I'd bet a winning Powerball ticket against them doing so.

Depends. Powerball ticket on it going well or trusting in what they ask? Sure. That they don't read? That's false, as they do. It's very unproductive to have everyone foolishly peacocking though, and that's on them for making it even more unproductive. Case in point, backchanneling the AH Prime weapon thread. There needs to be more in place overall otherwise it's just a mess, and is

Immortal
06-02-2023, 10:16 AM
You know that won't happen. They don't respond like that, ever.

Why do you care who posts what?? Goodness, I don't get why you are so obessed with being a doomer lately. They just made a thread on ffxiah discussing Sortie and the new weapons. Surely you wanted to jump in and tell them STOP DISCUSSING ANYTHING! None of it matters! We are all doomed, and nobody is going to read your posts or care!

You have no idea who is reading these posts, surely the one guy still working on the game has someone that reads things and keeps him informed.

Alhanelem
06-02-2023, 01:35 PM
Depends. Powerball ticket on it going well or trusting in what they ask? Sure. That they don't read? That's false, as they do. It's very unproductive to have everyone foolishly peacocking though, and that's on them for making it even more unproductive. Case in point, backchanneling the AH Prime weapon thread. There needs to be more in place overall otherwise it's just a mess, and is
The bet is against them providing the response he desires, not on them simply reading it. I do agree that stuff here gets read periodically, I know people on the community team and so I know they read the forums. But giving replies or actually acting on forum threads is another matter entirely.

Alhanelem
06-02-2023, 01:37 PM
Why do you care who posts what?? Goodness, I don't get why you are so obessed with being a doomer lately. They just made a thread on ffxiah discussing Sortie and the new weapons. Surely you wanted to jump in and tell them STOP DISCUSSING ANYTHING! None of it matters! We are all doomed, and nobody is going to read your posts or care!

You have no idea who is reading these posts, surely the one guy still working on the game has someone that reads things and keeps him informed.
I feel like you're more obsessed with trying to break down people you disagree with than anything else. Man, if you really hate what someone posts that much, just do what everyone else who doesn't like someone does: Put them on ignore. He won't mind, I don't mind. You can still read and reply at your choice, but using the ignore feature will make you weigh whether or not it's worth it in a given circumstance.

Not putting someone you dislike on your ignore list honestly suggests that you enjoy arguing with them.

Sp1cyryan
06-02-2023, 09:14 PM
Why do you care who posts what?? Goodness, I don't get why you are so obessed with being a doomer lately. They just made a thread on ffxiah discussing Sortie and the new weapons. Surely you wanted to jump in and tell them STOP DISCUSSING ANYTHING! None of it matters! We are all doomed, and nobody is going to read your posts or care!

You have no idea who is reading these posts, surely the one guy still working on the game has someone that reads things and keeps him informed.

In your haste to go bonkers attacking me. You missed that I literally said they won't get a direct answer like they want.

You will have to get good and step up or give up with lashing out. It is unproductive and unamusing. Otherwise, it is just hopelessly flailing around like your spirit animal is a Magikarp.