View Full Version : Fix Cuelebre please.
My main is a Paladin I can solo the majority of the NMs in abyssea. However I can not kill Cuelebre.
This mob is very poorly designed due to the fact I can not melee it since it is always flying. I ask you SE to make it so this NM Cuelebre lands from time to time to give melee a chance to kill it. Its not really fair to not be able to have a fair chance at killing this NM because my job is a melee class.
I am going around collecting all the abyssites and atmas on my Paladin I am about 85% of the way done and this mob blocking me at the moment since I can't get the Viridian abyssite of destiny, and Atma of the Claw.
Randwolf
04-24-2011, 08:10 AM
In before anyone else calls the troll a troll.
In before anyone else calls the troll a troll.
If you are not going to be helpful don't post anything at all.
Screen shotted evidence of what just happened
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5863/cue.jpg
Yea nothing but "Too Far Away".
Mrbeansman
04-24-2011, 08:24 AM
Have you considered trying a main that isn't useless?
Arcon
04-24-2011, 08:27 AM
Have you considered trying a main that isn't useless?
Agreed. Try MNK, they're awesome! Oh wait.. WAR, they do massive damage! No... THF? Um... DNC? Nah, not it.. WHM? Almost there.. Could you please remind me again which job isn't useless?
Speaking of spotting the troll..
Alkimi
04-24-2011, 08:27 AM
Not sure if this is serious or not.
You do know this is an MMO? If you could solo everything then it would kinda be missing the point. Get a friend to help?
Besides I've seen this soloed on WHM/SCH, it's not hard. It can also be meleed during it's 2hr phases.
Mrbeansman
04-24-2011, 08:28 AM
Agreed. Try MNK, they're awesome! Oh wait.. WAR, they do massive damage! No... THF? Um... DNC? Nah, not it.. WHM? Almost there.. Could you please remind me again which job isn't useless?
Speaking of spotting the troll..
It's like you don't even know how to fight Cuelebre.
Arcon
04-24-2011, 08:30 AM
It's like you don't even know how to fight Cuelebre.
Yes, one night I got drunk, next morning I had the dagger. Then the same happened for ten of my friends. Then again when we wanted his Atma and Abyssite, they all just magically appeared in our inventory over night.
Agreed. Try MNK, they're awesome! Oh wait.. WAR, they do massive damage! No... THF? Um... DNC? Nah, not it.. WHM? Almost there.. Could you please remind me again which job isn't useless?
Speaking of spotting the troll..
All of those jobs can not kill this NM. I actually have Monk, War, Thf and a handfull of other jobs leveled. They do not solo as well as PLD. And in this case are all useless on this mob which is why it needs to be fixed.
Mrbeansman
04-24-2011, 08:35 AM
All of those jobs can not kill this NM. I actually have Monk, War, Thf and a handfull of other jobs leveled. They do not solo as well as PLD. And in this case are all useless on this mob which is why it needs to be fixed.
So get a mage job and solo it?
Randwolf
04-24-2011, 08:35 AM
If you are not going to be helpful don't post anything at all.
Screen shotted evidence of what just happened
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5863/cue.jpg
Yea nothing but "Too Far Away".
Not sure if this is serious or not.
You do know this is an MMO? If you could solo everything then it would kinda be missing the point. Get a friend to help?
Besides I've seen this soloed on WHM/SCH, it's not hard. It can also be meleed during it's 2hr phases.
This. You MAY be able to solo hard (relatively speaking) stuff in the game. But, that didn't go into its design. So, if you can't solo it, it's because it wasn't designed for you to solo it. It is an MMO and if you aren't purposely trolling, you are trolling none the less. Because, most players know this is an MMO, will read your post, and say "WTF?"
Alkimi
04-24-2011, 08:39 AM
A mob needs to be fixed because you can't solo it? Could always use a brew and banish it to death if it bothers you that much.
Only thing I'll agree with is yes, it is pretty damn hard to trigger red on this due to it's constant flight. Not even sure if you can actually, even during it's 2hr phase when it can be meleed.
Arcon
04-24-2011, 08:39 AM
All of those jobs can not kill this NM. I actually have Monk, War, Thf and a handfull of other jobs leveled. They do not solo as well as PLD. And in this case are all useless on this mob which is why it needs to be fixed.
Yeah that was my point. I'm just allergic to zero IQ posts. PLD is an exceptional job inside Abyssea, which people fail to realize because they only look at its role as a tank, which they've undoubtedly lost in almost all cases. Especially if you want to solo and still cover red and blue procs, it's arguably the best, so very well suited for Atma/Abyssite farm for Abyssea completion. It also has a few other great niche uses, but it's pointless even trying to explain it to some people. All they want is an Almace PLD with GH/RR/Apoc Atma dealing damage.
Rezeak
04-24-2011, 08:39 AM
Do it as a party.
This post is definitly one of the dumbest requests i've ever seen.
it's like asking to kill AV solo at lvl 1 ... SE design mobs to be killed a certain way get over it.
This. You MAY be able to solo hard (relatively speaking) stuff in the game. But, that didn't go into its design. So, if you can't solo it, it's because it wasn't designed for you to solo it. It is an MMO and if you aren't purposely trolling, you are trolling none the less. Because, most players know this is an MMO, will read your post, and say "WTF?"
SE wants to support many styles of play and soloing is a viable playstyle and I don't want to have to get a bunch of people to do something I should be able to do solo. They have put in many more ways to solo in FFXI FoVs for example.
Making it so all melee jobs are useless against a certain NM is poor game design.
Its not too much to ask for them to have this NM have ground phases like the other wyrms in the game. Being in the air all the time is just stupid and practically makes it required to have a mage job or ranger to kill it.
Mrbeansman
04-24-2011, 08:44 AM
SE wants to support many styles of play and soloing is a viable playstyle and I don't want to have to get a bunch of people to do something I should be able to do solo. They have put in many more ways to solo in FFXI FoVs for example.
Making it so all melee jobs are useless against a certain NM is poor game design.
Its not too much to ask for them to have this NM have ground phases like the other wyrms in the game. Being in the air all the time is just stupid and practically makes it required to have a mage job or ranger to kill it.
It's not like there's a mob in the game thats totally immune to magic damage oh wait.
Rezeak
04-24-2011, 08:46 AM
here this how you solo with stagger
sub anything that gives you cyclone and Aeolian Edge get a regain atma keep
aggroing--> cyclone --> deaggro until you get stagger
then once you get stagger brew it with Aeolian Edge
if you can't do that get a party if ya too lazy to do that please be too lazy to make posts like this...
Randwolf
04-24-2011, 08:48 AM
SE wants to support many styles of play and soloing is a viable playstyle and I don't want to have to get a bunch of people to do something I should be able to do solo. They have put in many more ways to solo in FFXI FoVs for example.
Making it so all melee jobs are useless against a certain NM is poor game design.
Its not too much to ask for them to have this NM have ground phases like the other wyrms in the game. Being in the air all the time is just stupid and practically makes it required to have a mage job or ranger to kill it.
You're partly correct. They are expanding the play styles that can get more out of the game. Although it isn't that hard, this is considered an NM which is designed to be fought by more than one person. S/E does this so that you are forced to team up with other players. It's a major premise of the game. I imagine that you will not find support from S/E or many in the community who want to make every mob in the game a solo mob. Otherwise, we could just be playing a single player RPG with periodic new content downloaded from S/E.
p.s. - Most of the mobs that have both ground and air phases require you to damage it a certain percent to make it come to the ground.
noodles355
04-24-2011, 09:54 AM
I agree with Rezeak and many other players. The fact that you are bitching that a monster in an MMORPG is not killable solo shows you do not understand the nature of MMORPGS.
I hate to sound like a twat but seriously: The answer to your problems is "make some friends". Maybe if you stopped tryinto solo everything, this goal would be easier!
HFX7686
04-24-2011, 01:16 PM
Can't you melee Cuelebre while it's doing Mighty Strikes, or is that some other mob?
And yeah, making everything soloable would be dull.
Also, how on earth have you completed 85% of atmas and abyssites on solo PLD? I think you've miscounted.
Andylynn
04-24-2011, 01:26 PM
If you are not going to be helpful don't post anything at all.
Screen shotted evidence of what just happened
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5863/cue.jpg
Yea nothing but "Too Far Away".
It's called challenging, not every monster is 'put on tank, watch it die.' Get a smn, it can kill it.
Shoko
04-24-2011, 02:42 PM
My main is a Paladin I can solo the majority of the NMs in abyssea. However I can not kill Cuelebre.
This mob is very poorly designed due to the fact I can not melee it since it is always flying. I ask you SE to make it so this NM Cuelebre lands from time to time to give melee a chance to kill it. Its not really fair to not be able to have a fair chance at killing this NM because my job is a melee class.
I am going around collecting all the abyssites and atmas on my Paladin I am about 85% of the way done and this mob blocking me at the moment since I can't get the Viridian abyssite of destiny, and Atma of the Claw.
Can attack/stagger it when it uses Mighty Strikes. You can also spam Cyclone on it regardless for trigger/discernment proc.
ShepardG
04-24-2011, 02:48 PM
I can't climb this tree outside my house, could you please chop it down because I am unable to climb it, even though there are plenty of children that live near me that can climb it, I CAN NOT, so it would be best if, instead of me working out, or getting better at climbing trees, they just chopped the tree down instead. I know i should be able to climb it, because I climbed up onto my roof 2 months ago, and it had minimal to slight problems doing that but i still accomplished it (GOME!!!)
look at what your asking these people you nit wit. why don't you solo that new NM "Common Sense" and maybe it will drop "A clue"
Henihhi
04-24-2011, 03:12 PM
OMG cuelebre is soo hard. WTF i hope this was a troll thread.
Seriha
04-24-2011, 04:50 PM
You know, part of me's wondered that if you kited down to one of the little tunnel valleys if melees higher up could actually land their strikes then. I've only fought it ranged style, though, for obvious reasons.
Alhanelem
04-24-2011, 05:22 PM
Culebre isn't malfunctioning. He just has special attributes that require a different strategy than other mobs.
Alkalinehoe
04-24-2011, 07:11 PM
Culebre isn't malfunctioning. He just has special attributes that require a different strategy than other mobs.
No one said it was malfunctioning. OP is just sad her PLD can't kill something an afk smn can kill.
Nidhogg
04-24-2011, 08:04 PM
I've solod this NM on WHM with Banish and Holy while my LS farmed time, took me about 90 minutes.
Kindra
04-24-2011, 09:21 PM
You know, part of me's wondered that if you kited down to one of the little tunnel valleys if melees higher up could actually land their strikes then. I've only fought it ranged style, though, for obvious reasons.
My Bf myself and a friend did this. There is a little cliff by flux 3 that if you position him just right you can melee him. We did this as a thf drk and whm. Granted it took us a bit but we did it :). And we did Proc it :).
Secondplanet
04-24-2011, 09:28 PM
Just find a SMN with garuda's staff (they're a dime a dozen personally i'm a titan man) and get them to grab the a regen atma, atma of gales and MM and garuda can solo the whole fight in about 5-10mins. I did it for people out of boredom for about 1 week on my server to help people get the dagger. Again though be careful of the summoner you ask, they may have all the +2 but a summoning skill of 5 c.c;
HFX7686
04-24-2011, 09:42 PM
My Bf myself and a friend did this. There is a little cliff by flux 3 that if you position him just right you can melee him. We did this as a thf drk and whm. Granted it took us a bit but we did it :). And we did Proc it :).
Are you sure he wasn't just using Mighty Strikes a lot? I did this with a THF, MNK, and WHM and the melee just whiffed til he did Mighty Strikes.
Also, OP still has not responded about his dubious claim of having done 85% of the abyssites/atmas.
Kindra
04-24-2011, 10:24 PM
Yea when mighty strikes was up yes we could. But if he is positioned just right even without MS up he can be hit. Still faster for BLM, SMN, or RNG to kill it though lol.
Are you sure he wasn't just using Mighty Strikes a lot? I did this with a THF, MNK, and WHM and the melee just whiffed til he did Mighty Strikes.
Also, OP still has not responded about his dubious claim of having done 85% of the abyssites/atmas.
I am very close to getting atma of the savior now.
Yesterday I did what someone said took out my garudas dagger and spammed Cyclone on it with 2 regain atmas and MM for MP for cures. I saw a SMN which I knew log on, they wanted the atma and abyssite too so they came. However it was not going to die fast even with a SMN. Later a BLM I knew showed up on my friend list I asked him to come he already had both the atma and abyssite but came regardless.
During the Cyclone spam i got the hint and I saw it was earth crusher for red. Eventually he used mighty strikes, I used earth crusher. Me and the blm then finished him off easy when he was staggered.
Although this isn't even my problem anymore since I got it. Having to bother people to come do 3 patch old content for completion is pretty lame. I should not have to do it. I was pretty annoyed I had to ask people to come.
Not really my problem anymore but regardless SE should fix it for other melee who want to solo this NM.
Niklz
04-25-2011, 07:08 AM
Having to bother people to come do 3 patch old content for completion is pretty lame
ehhh, huh.
how old is too old? lol
finding it hard to express my discontent in this statement...
Andylynn
04-25-2011, 07:17 AM
I am very close to getting atma of the savior now.
Yesterday I did what someone said took out my garudas dagger and spammed Cyclone on it with 2 regain atmas and MM for MP for cures. I saw a SMN which I knew log on, they wanted the atma and abyssite too so they came. However it was not going to die fast even with a SMN. Later a BLM I knew showed up on my friend list I asked him to come he already had both the atma and abyssite but came regardless.
During the Cyclone spam i got the hint and I saw it was earth crusher for red. Eventually he used mighty strikes, I used earth crusher. Me and the blm then finished him off easy when he was staggered.
Although this isn't even my problem anymore since I got it. Having to bother people to come do 3 patch old content for completion is pretty lame. I should not have to do it. I was pretty annoyed I had to ask people to come.
Not really my problem anymore but regardless SE should fix it for other melee who want to solo this NM.
Oh lord, imagine the fit she'd have if she found out she couldnt solo Dynamis Lord!! What would we do with content that old!?
Pikel
04-25-2011, 07:28 AM
What if SE tried to reinstate old content by making something like Land gods easier to obtain or bring back the old endgame content by allowing us to upgrade threw synergy. What would we do then when we had to get friends to do things dating back several years?
Niklz
04-25-2011, 07:35 AM
ehhh, huh.
how old is too old? lol
finding it hard to express my discontent in this statement...
JADED!
that's the word i've been looking for!
The FFXI playerbase has become Jaded.
Tamoa
04-25-2011, 08:40 AM
Tiamat is old content too! SE should fix Tiamat so I can solo it for a free pair of gaiters!
Gennadi
04-25-2011, 08:53 AM
My main is a Paladin I can solo the majority of the NMs in abyssea. However I can not kill Cuelebre.
This mob is very poorly designed due to the fact I can not melee it since it is always flying. I ask you SE to make it so this NM Cuelebre lands from time to time to give melee a chance to kill it. Its not really fair to not be able to have a fair chance at killing this NM because my job is a melee class.
I am going around collecting all the abyssites and atmas on my Paladin I am about 85% of the way done and this mob blocking me at the moment since I can't get the Viridian abyssite of destiny, and Atma of the Claw.
Sub whm and dia it to death
ShepardG
04-25-2011, 02:41 PM
Zumi you act like an idiot
Lidenbok
04-26-2011, 02:00 AM
I don't know whats more fail.
You asking for Cuelebre to be "fixed" because you can't solo it on Paladin or the person in your screenshot asking for yellow/blue stagger for glavoid shells...
On topic though, Level RDM. Put Magic Defence/Earth resist atmas on and profit.
Just because you can't solo it on a job like paladin doesn't mean the encounter needs fixing.
Dfoley
04-26-2011, 03:00 AM
Use puppetmaster and afk for 10 minutes while your pet solos it... profit!
Megatron
04-26-2011, 03:28 AM
SE does support amny diffrent playstiles. but abysse was and still lited as a mass group event. thus why no single job can prock everything. so you haveto bring......... thisis a hard consept ..........stick with me.........you may have a real one.......friends.....
SE is not goingto redesign a NM becasue you fail to realize that a RNG and a mage can beat this thing with ease. no go level a diffrent job.