No new zone is a huge mistake with VR.

[Pixela]

A big part of what people love about XI is exploration, not adding even just one new zone is a huge mistake and a major flaw with VR.

When I came back for Rhapsodies I loved Reisenjima, I loved exploring it and I loved how detailed it is. That along with the storyline re-ignited my love of the game, especially since it was a far east area.

Just adding a new storyline is not enough, a new zone needed to come with it too.

I know there will be a whole new endgame dungeon, frankly it's just not enough because many many players don't really do that much endgame content and a zone people can grind / explore it keeps everyone happy.

I think this is the biggest mistake with VR, no new zone.

I can accept no new expansions (even though I think this is a mistake because many players would come back for it and it would pay for itself), but not even one new zone for a storyline is a real bad decision.

[Immortal]

They refuse to spend more money on XI because the one in charge is the guy from XIV... We have to make him give more money up for the XI budget. Yoshida...

[Alhanelem]

Technically there is a new zone. Crisis averted!


Yoshida is the head of Creative Business Unit III. They do more than just FFXI and FFXIV, so it's not simply "take money from my baby? how dare you!"

Yoshida actually saved FFXI when they were actually considering shutting it down.

[Immortal]

We need to force him to increase the budget, this game deserves it ok

[Sirmarki]

When I came back for Rhapsodies I loved Reisenjima

You did? It's my least favourite zone.

There are some pretty cool zones though, with stunning scenery.

I'm just speculating, but I suspect that there are technical limitations in the way, as well as each new zone would have to be game tested, so players don't get "stuck".

I remember years back falling through the pier in Windhurst.

[Pixela]

Technically there is a new zone. Crisis averted!


Yoshida is the head of Creative Business Unit III. They do more than just FFXI and FFXIV, so it's not simply "take money from my baby? how dare you!"

Yoshida actually saved FFXI when they were actually considering shutting it down.

They can outsource, you know how I know? a lot of the work on Seekers of Adoulin was outsourced because the core XI team was working on ARR.

My feeling with Yoshida is that although what you said is correct, he has no interest in extending the game and instead just wants to sustain what there is. A new expansion would be huge for the game, it's a mindset thing.

Rhapsodies brought a ton of people back and sustained them because it was such a good "free" expansion, VR is nowhere near as good.

[Sp1cyryan]

A big part of what people love about XI is exploration, not adding even just one new zone is a huge mistake and a major flaw with VR.

When I came back for Rhapsodies I loved Reisenjima, I loved exploring it and I loved how detailed it is. That along with the storyline re-ignited my love of the game, especially since it was a far east area.

Just adding a new storyline is not enough, a new zone needed to come with it too.

I know there will be a whole new endgame dungeon, frankly it's just not enough because many many players don't really do that much endgame content and a zone people can grind / explore it keeps everyone happy.

I think this is the biggest mistake with VR, no new zone.

I can accept no new expansions (even though I think this is a mistake because many players would come back for it and it would pay for itself), but not even one new zone for a storyline is a real bad decision.

You are asking too much at this stage in the game.

[Pixela]

Really not.

[Stuzey]

reusing old zones, old mobs, old armour etc.. will only get you so far.

At some point you need something brand new or the game feels stale, so much of vanadiel remains unexplored

Although, didn't they say they were near or at the map limit a while ago?

[Sp1cyryan]

Really not.

Yes, you are.

You want something beyond the standard from the Devs of a game in maintenance mode. This isn't the 2000s anymore where you get to blurt out requests for new assets. Take what you get and have fun. That is it.

[Alhanelem]

Yes, you are.

You want something beyond the standard from the Devs of a game in maintenance mode. This isn't the 2000s anymore where you get to blurt out requests for new assets. Take what you get and have fun. That is it.

A game that's still getting new content is not in "maintenance mode."

[Immortal]

I want to close my eyes and pretend they still love this game and we will get a new expansion.

[Sp1cyryan]

A game that's still getting new content is not in "maintenance mode."

Lol, doesn't matter how you define it. They did, and the result is clear. Took them multiple years to do Empyrean +2/3 and even then they widely missed thier deadline.

[Alhanelem]

Lol, doesn't matter how you define it. They did, and the result is clear. Took them multiple years to do Empyrean +2/3 and even then they widely missed thier deadline.


Point is, this is something certain members of the playerbase invented, and not something that ever actually happened.

To me, "maintenance mode" implies "we're not updating anything anymore, The only action we'll take is if something breaks down to keep it running." Which is what maintenance is: Keeping it running. Adding things, regardless of your opinion of how much substance those things have, goes beyond keeping it running. therefore it is not in "maintenance mode."

[Sp1cyryan]

To me, "maintenance mode" implies "we're not updating anything anymore, The only action we'll take is if something breaks down to keep it running." Which is what maintenance is: Keeping it running. Adding things, regardless of your opinion of how much substance those things have, goes beyond keeping it running. therefore it is not in "maintenance mode."



Well, people can say that, but then they also ask for more, lol. Results are pretty clear.

[Pixela]

Why are you posting in this manner.

Maintenance mode means no new content at all, simply keeping the game running. They said that, then after being surprised by how many players came back for rhapsodies changed their mind.

The game is not in maintenance mode.

Part of the reason they spent money on adding VR was because Rhaps was so successful, but they missed part of the reason for that.

[Alhanelem]

A rare moment of agreement for me with pixela.

Like I said, you can debate all day how substantial or good the new content is. But new conten IS new content. Even if it came late, even if its not what we were expecting. "maintenance mode" means "bare minimum to keep things running." This is clearly more than that. How much more, that's totally open for debate. but it's not zero.

[Immortal]

I think its because a lot of players have become a little upset since that anniversary "announcement." it was a huge fail and maybe some can see the writing that SE really doesnt care as much about this game as we all do. I wish they did, the producer seems to and he wanted to do an expansion and keep it going strong. The success of their other games has made them care very little for this one.

[Sp1cyryan]

Why are you posting in this manner.

Maintenance mode means no new content at all, simply keeping the game running. They said that, then after being surprised by how many players came back for rhapsodies changed their mind.

The game is not in maintenance mode.

Part of the reason they spent money on adding VR was because Rhaps was so successful, but they missed part of the reason for that.

Someone has to be more in touch with reality and not behaving like we are sitting on Santa's lap making Christmas wishes.

Game is in maintenance mode. Devs have conveyed this, and the results have conveyed this. It has taken years to complete basic content and story lines. Other planned changes still not even materializing. Years. Deal with it.

VR isn't even after, years. Prime weapons need more content to reach completion. How do you know we don't just get a new zone over this? Asking or declaring your unmet desires thus far to be a mistake is silly.

[Alhanelem]

I think its because a lot of players have become a little upset since that anniversary "announcement." it was a huge fail and maybe some can see the writing that SE really doesnt care as much about this game as we all do. I wish they did, the producer seems to and he wanted to do an expansion and keep it going strong. The success of their other games has made them care very little for this one.

The anger at the anniversary announcement was unjustified IMO. what they were alluding to could have been literally anything and the playerbase chose to let their imaginations run wild and assume all kinds of things that weren't realistic.

Anyone with any common sense would have tempered their expectations that they were going to be revealing a new expansion or something else on that order of magnitude.