View Full Version : FFXI REMASTERED! Do eeeet!
Trublade
10-08-2021, 07:58 AM
Ok, so I bought FFI-FFVI, 2D remastered recently.
I’ve bought VII-X remastered..
SE loves remastering games so why not remaster what could be considered the best FF game ever?!
FFXI online remastered!
Come on people. If ever a game deserves it, it’s this game!
For the love of God get behind this!
There are too many contrarians running around who say no just to say no.
I mean imagine it. A new engine, same gameplay, same feel?!
It’d be epic!
Come on SE, do eeeet!
Zehira
10-08-2021, 09:24 AM
If I'd like to understand the term "Role-Playing Game" means. This is the best thing that could happen though. :)
Lortheron
10-09-2021, 07:14 AM
Ok, so I bought FFI-FFVI, 2D remastered recently.
I’ve bought VII-X remastered..
SE loves remastering games so why not remaster what could be considered the best FF game ever?!
FFXI online remastered!
Come on people. If ever a game deserves it, it’s this game!
For the love of God get behind this!
There are too many contrarians running around who say no just to say no.
I mean imagine it. A new engine, same gameplay, same feel?!
It’d be epic!
Come on SE, do eeeet!
Yes, please. Waiting for it : )
Pixela
10-10-2021, 05:49 PM
Content is all that matters.
I have alittle hope left that the big 20th anni surprise will be a facelift to the game, but if it doesn't happen, you can rest assured it will never happen. Ever. I will completely forget about it ever being a possibility and we will just have to rely on 3rd parties to make the time out of passion to do it and continue to put SE to utter shame and embarrassment of failing to do what every other MMORPG has done.
Lortheron
10-11-2021, 04:21 PM
I have alittle hope left that the big 20th anni surprise will be a facelift to the game, but if it doesn't happen, you can rest assured it will never happen. Ever. I will completely forget about it ever being a possibility and we will just have to rely on 3rd parties to make the time out of passion to do it and continue to put SE to utter shame and embarrassment of failing to do what every other MMORPG has done.
Agreed. Everquest 1 is a good example if graphic and interface improvements over years, as well as having servers with many different rulesets to suit different kinds of players.
Pixela
10-11-2021, 06:42 PM
I have alittle hope left that the big 20th anni surprise will be a facelift to the game, but if it doesn't happen, you can rest assured it will never happen. Ever. I will completely forget about it ever being a possibility and we will just have to rely on 3rd parties to make the time out of passion to do it and continue to put SE to utter shame and embarrassment of failing to do what every other MMORPG has done.
Check who the head of the online division is and who would sign off on something like this.
JKap_Goat
10-11-2021, 09:02 PM
I think a remake is definitely needed.
Especially for accessibility options to make the texts bigger for people who have poor eyesight like me
Lortheron
10-11-2021, 11:29 PM
Check who the head of the online division is and who would sign off on something like this.
Who (is the chief of Square Enix online division)?
Pixela
10-11-2021, 11:55 PM
Naoki Yoshida, and FFXIV is his baby.
Lortheron
10-12-2021, 04:13 AM
Naoki Yoshida, and FFXIV is his baby.
That's sad : (
Burialfaith
05-17-2022, 11:34 AM
I was hoping big to see the game graphics being improved for the 20th anniversary.
So true that all games are remastered except FFXI. (But FFXI mobile reboot didn’t reached the market)…
At some point in FFXI history, the devs said it was the most profitable game ever of the franchise. With all the extra income the game has made, couldn’t HD graphics/textures be produced??
For when FFXI 8K ??
Lortheron
05-17-2022, 05:30 PM
I was hoping big to see the game graphics being improved for the 20th anniversary.
So true that all games are remastered except FFXI. (But FFXI mobile reboot didn’t reached the market)…
At some point in FFXI history, the devs said it was the most profitable game ever of the franchise. With all the extra income the game has made, couldn’t HD graphics/textures be produced??
For when FFXI 8K ??
At this point, I just really wish Square Enix would sell the rights to make further remakes / remasters / spin offs of older IPs, like FFs they don't care about (VI, VIII, IX, XI, XII), Chrono Cross, Tactics Ogre, etc., and just kept working on the IPs they actually care (FFVII and XIV) as those makes them enough money while freeing up beloved older IPs the company does nothing good with to be explored by smaller and more caring developers whom would actually give a damn. So many IPs deserve better treatment than SE gives, specifically given the latest "demasters" the company released and the way they always treated and treat FFXI.
Think of the Bioware ~ Obsidian relationship, or maybe the Fromsoft ~ Bluepoint one. Clearly SE themselves are NOT the best for their older, less profitable (compared to XIV at least) IPs and their remasters are usually terrible. They should just give those IPs a much deserved freedom while making some money out of it, I bet there would be many great third party companies, even big ones (smaller than Square Enix), that would love to, for example, buy the rights to remake FFVIII or take care FFXI further updates, expansions, etc..
They already sold Tomb Raider...
Venat
06-29-2022, 07:46 AM
XI remake isnt gonna happen until Yoshi P gives up XIV. All the funding going to 14 & 16. They already doing a bad job with xiv to even have any funds go anywhere else.
If XI remake did happen it would likely be closer to ARR then XI in terms being a casual game/themepark. Majority of XI want to go back to the old hardcore days where every level earned meaned something.
XI was made in the early Everquest days before WoW. I don't think they would ever go back knowing they make more money selling a themepark.
I personally think there's a middle ground between them but I don't think the current devs could pull it off. If they do decide to do it. Just recycle xiv engine, assets and double the size of the dev team so they can work on both games. Then have both teams help each other with like new features. Making it easier to move 1 feature to the other game.
Alhanelem
06-29-2022, 01:14 PM
Naoki Yoshida, and FFXIV is his baby.
FFXI is also technically his baby. He is the head of the business unit that controls both games. It may shock you to learn that he has helped to keep the game alive.
Pixela
06-29-2022, 04:00 PM
XI was merged with XIV long ago, so XI boosts XIV player numbers and profits.
As such you're correct, but it's not for our benefit.
Alhanelem
06-29-2022, 04:08 PM
XI was merged with XIV long ago, so XI boosts XIV player numbers and profits.
As such you're correct, but it's not for our benefit.
This is both false and disingenuous. XI does not "boost XIV player numbers." Even if that were true, FFXI's numbers are insignificant against XIV's and wouldn't matter for any statistic, metric, or decision making. As for profits, you're only correct in the sense that all projects under the business unit have their finances reported to the same accounting person. Not just FFXI, or FFXIV, but every project managed by Business Unit 1 (or whichever number it is). This is just standard practice for any company's accounting, and has nothing to do with any sort of judgement for or against any specific project. Rest assured that even if FFXIV didn't exist, monies generated by FFXI would contribute to the income for the entire business unit. There is no way to say that this dollar earned from this project was spent on that project. It is literally as if you dumped sacks of cash from each game into a pot, stirred it, and then disbursed that cash into the budgets of each active project in some porportion. FFXI's income is miniscule compared to FFXIV's in the first place, so even if it could be proven that X dollars earned from FFXI directly went into FFXIV's operating budget (which it can't), it would be irrelevant against the money the game generates for itself. Thus there isn't even a need to do this.
look man, I know you resent FFXIV's existence, but spreading false and/or misleading information serves no one. If you don't want to in any way fund any project that isn't FFXI, your only option is to both unsubscribe and not purchase or partake in any other Square-Enix title, as all money SE earns funds all its projects. There is no way to separate out how many of which game's dollars go to the budgets of which projects.
Pixela
06-29-2022, 06:58 PM
Then remove XIV from steam, since XI has more player numbers than XIV does on Steam. If one matters they both do.
The problem is you idolize XIV in a way even I don't with XI. You think it's the king of the world when it's not at all, it has decent player numbers but they are nowhere near market leader and they inflate player numbers by counting during free access times and by adding XI numbers onto it. They very much need XI to boost player numbers and profits and that is the real reason XI will not be shut down, they need it. Fun fact, this is also why XIV became "the most profitable FF game", because a) they stopped counting profits XI makes as its own product long ago when they merged playonline accounts with the ff14 account system (it has never been counted on any financial report since the accounts merged) and b) because they add all the profits XI makes onto XIV.
You know how I know XIV is nowhere near as big as they pretend it is? they never give expansion sales numbers, because this would be a guaranteed number of active players and they can't lose face by exposing them.
XI is part of XIV operations, the same staff work on both (this would never happen unless they are in the same product line), the XIV developers can use any assets they want from XI any time they want that is normally impossible for other square enix games and takes months of clearances from project leads, xi is never mentioned on any financial report (even though smaller games are), yoshida stated tanaka gave him xi, the money when paid intro crysta goes to XIV. Everything XI achieves, is counted towards XIV to make it look better.
In a way this is good becasue it means they will keep XI running as long as possible, it also means they won't do above and beyond the bare min though.
Square struggled for years to make us play XIV and failed, they finally found a way. They just pretend we are FFXIV players and it just works.
Zero-Hour
06-29-2022, 08:33 PM
In some ways I am hoping they never re-master XI. If they would do a straight-up graphics and GUI update, I would be all for that, but there is no way that would happen. They would do a "George Lucas" and 'improve things' which never ends well. I include VII remaster in this.
It would probably require not far off a total re-write of most of the core code, as I doubt that many of the original programmers are even still with SE and that was written 20 years ago which is a different age as far as technology goes.
I tried to play XIV twice, and hated it. The whole system was bad to me. The NPCs were unlikable and the hap-hazzard story left me cold. If they tried to push any of this into a XI remaster, as they would inevitably do it would kill it.
We would then get the split of the community would push for a "classic" game.
No thanks.
Alhanelem
06-30-2022, 01:35 AM
The problem is you idolize XIV in a way even I don't with XI.The problem with your entire post is this statement isn't true at all. I don't "idolize" FFXIV, in fact I would really not use that word to describe anything. I've told people multiple times about the extent of what I do in that game, which isn't really a whole lot- just PvP and deep dungeon. Two things most people don't care about lol.
I just don't hate it, deride it, and resent it for merely existing the way you do. Times change, and people's interests change. Not hating and resenting != idolizing.
Square struggled for years to make us play XIV and failed,
They stopped trying to convert you after 1.0.
You know how I know XIV is nowhere near as big as they pretend it is? they never give expansion sales numbers, because this would be a guaranteed number of active players and they can't lose face by exposing them.Expansion sales numbers doesn't accuirately indicate active players. You can deny FFXIV's success all you like but that won't make it go away. Funny how they're expanding all of the datacenters and adding more Worlds because they didn't have enough capacity after Endwalker's release. Sure sounds like a sales failure to me! [/sarcasm]
This isn't a Square Enix policy either. MMOs generally don't release sales numbers or other data beyond a vague "X number of players" in promotional advertising. WoW doesn't give these numbers and neither does any other MMO I've ever played.
In some ways I am hoping they never re-master XI. If they would do a straight-up graphics and GUI update, I would be all for that, but there is no way that would happen. They would do a "George Lucas" and 'improve things' which never ends well. I include VII remaster in this. It ends just fine many times. The problem is you can never please everyone, there's always an "old salty" who thinks all change is bad and nothing can be legitimately improved. While FFXI is classic, the idea that it can't be improved is nonsense.
Pixela
06-30-2022, 01:50 AM
You're allowed to be wrong.
Alhanelem
06-30-2022, 01:56 AM
You're allowed to be wrong.
So are you.
Then remove XIV from steam, since XI has more player numbers than XIV does on Steam. If one matters they both do.https://i.imgur.com/MDhXEF5.png
https://i.imgur.com/uSjFScG.png
Of course in both cases, the vast majority of all players in either game are not using Steam. And in both cases, removing the game from Steam wouldn't have a big impact on total player counts. And to be fair to FFXI, it wasn't added to steam for several years, so few people ever got the game that way.
I don't give a rats behind about any of these numbers, I'll love FFXI til I'm the only person with a sub. I'm just putting this here so people know you're talking out your behind while trying to call other people wrong.
Pixela
06-30-2022, 02:05 AM
You're now mad. You are well aware that I was saying XI has more players than XIV on steam.
I was also not saying XIV doesn't have a lot of players, I was saying it doesn't have as many as they pretend it does and benefits from the XI player numbers and profits. Especially when they use vague language, for instance I alone have over 80 "characters" on XI that are on XIV square enix accounts.
https://i.imgur.com/BeX9gm4.jpg
If they didn't need XI to boost player numbers, they would state them separate on financial reports.
Alhanelem
06-30-2022, 02:08 AM
You're now mad. You are well aware that I was saying XI has more players than XIV on steam.Yes. And I proved you wrong by showing you both games' steam numbers. :) And then you proceeded to change the goal posts, as # of characters != # of players. FFXIAH is showing you all the characters it has ever seen created. Those aren't all active players. And while you can add up all the people who did something on the AH and get a reasonable idea of the people playing, that's an entirely different number than what Steam is giving you- that's total players, not concurrent players. Steam only gives concurrent players- which needs to be multiplied several times over to get any semblance of an idea of how many total active players there are, as most people aren't logged in 24 7.
And again: Most players on FFXIV are not on steam. The numbers I gave you are ONLY steam users, and only concurrent users. This doesn't include non-steam PC players, Mac players (okay not many of those), and PS4 and PS5 players.
You can not compare total users to concurrent users.
If they didn't need XI to boost player numbers, they would state them separate on financial reports. Your logic is flawed. Both games operate under one business unit. There is no reason to state them seperately on financial reports. Your accusations of number fudging are ridiculous.
Also it bears mentioning that in measuring AH transactions in particular, you're including tons of RMT bots, who make new characters EVERY DAY, which inflates those numbers over the period which FFXIAH says constitutes "active." These users can only ever be counted once at a time in concurrent user numbers.
DISCLAIMER: This doesn't mean FFXIV doesn't have bots, because it does. I"m merely pointing out how FFXIAH's method of calcualtion can count the same player multiple times.
Pixela
06-30-2022, 02:19 AM
My logic isn't flawed at all you're just outraged, when you cool down you'll be fine. Give it a an hour or so and you'll stop hyper ventilating.
Alhanelem
06-30-2022, 02:24 AM
I know what you're trying to do, you're trying to "prove" that I "idolize" FFXIV by provoking me to argue about it.
But I apparently need to make one thing clear: I post on this forum because I play FFXI and I care about the game. I'm not an FFXIV worshipper, if anything, I'm just a sucker for people who make false and disingenuous statements. I'm not going to pretend that FFXIV isn't successful when it has been- the idea that they need to add numbers from FFXI to make FFXIV's numbers look better is ridiculous. The size of FFXIV's population is plain from the servers being full all the time and them needing to bend over backwards during a chip shortage to buy new server machines to increase capacity. FFXIV's success was being limited by their inability to expand the servers in a timely fashion.
My logic isn't flawed at all you're just outraged, when you cool down you'll be fine. Give it a an hour or so and you'll stop hyper ventilating. Your logic is flawed. You've proven as well that your only purpose here is to bait me. :)
Okay, the way I phrased that was a bit mean. So I made it a little nicer. One day you'll make it past the denial phase.
I mean, you claimed FFXI had more players than FFXIV did on steam.
FFXI has 5 concurrent users on steam.
FFXIV has 22k.
that is /thread. You then changed the goal posts and compared concurrent users on steam to "active users based on FFXIAH auction history." Two different and uncomparable numbers.
Take your own advice and stop being mad that FFXIV was a bigger success.
Pixela
06-30-2022, 02:52 AM
The point I made was simply that XI boosts XIV player numbers and profits (which is 100% does), it has a sizeable playerbase comparable to games like EVE, Everquest, New World and many other medium sized mmorpgs. The only difference is that every XI player pays money, there are no free players here. The money it brings in is very substantial in this genre and any mmorpg would want to add it to their main product as a booster.
I'm not saying XIV isn't a successful game, I'm just saying it's not as successful as they wish it was and XI helps them appear bigger than they actually are.
They want to keep 11 running for a reason, and that reason is XIV.
Nothing you say about XI player numbers of whatever hurts my feelings at all and is meaningless, because I know what XI is. However I know any swipe at the size of your XIVmanhood cuts deep to your soul, because you are emotionally attached to the fictional PR storytime of what XIV is.
You have absorbed the fairlytale success story of XIV into your being to such a degree that saying it doesn't have millions of players is an personal attack on you as a person. Which is sad.
https://i.imgur.com/OfL0ue5.jpg
Alhanelem
06-30-2022, 10:14 AM
They want to keep 11 running for a reason, and that reason is XIV. Seriously man, just stop, and take your own advice. You're taking your FFXIV hate to a whole new level. You don't have to like it, I really don't have a problem with you not liking it. But stop making up all kinds of BS to justify why you hate it and why everyone else should too.
Catmato
06-30-2022, 09:22 PM
You're now mad. You are well aware that I was saying XI has more players than XIV on steam.
As much as I hate to agree with Analhelm, he's right about this one. The way you phrased it implies XIV has fewer Steam players than XI does.
Pixela
06-30-2022, 10:29 PM
As much as I hate to agree with Analhelm, he's right about this one. The way you phrased it implies XIV has fewer Steam players than XI does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpWj2vOEBmA
Alhanelem
07-01-2022, 03:04 AM
As much as I hate to agree with Analhelm, he's right about this one. The way you phrased it implies XIV has fewer Steam players than XI does.
This is why I always tell people precision in wording is important. Yes, some people may see it the way the person speaking intended, but poor / ambiguous phrasing can send a different message than was intended. We can't read each other's minds.
I guess he was trying to say that FFXI has more *total* active users than FFXIV has players on Steam by itself. While probably true (even though I think FFXIAH's method of calculation disporportionately represents bots, as bots use the AH all the time and some players may go long periods of time without using the AH and not appear in this chart), I think it's a largely meaningless observation. FFXIV was not released on steam until later, and is still on a console (well, two sort of) platform, so Steam represents a relatively low percentage of FFXIV players- In no small part because new players are often advised to buy the game standalone from SE rather than from steam.
Pixela
07-01-2022, 03:51 AM
The point I was making is that FFXI player accounts make up a significant addition to FFXIV's overall player numbers and profits for PR and financial presentations, there is no argument here. This is a fact, this would be like Blizzard buying Eve Online and secretly adding their players numbers and profits to wow and saying it wouldn't matter. Of course it would, there will always be a benefit in this kind of tactic.
I made the comparison to Steam and indeed PS4 because I knew they were comparable and I knew your pride would force you to say one doesn't actually matter to "XIV" as an entity and not say the same about the other two (aka if XI doesn't matter to the total then neither does steam).
It also helped XIV claim the PR award of being "the most profitable FF title" much sooner because they stopped counting XI profits when ARR launched and they forced us all to be merged with XIV account systems (if you check the places that calculate these things, you will see they magically stopped counting XI revenue when they stopped appearing on financial reports after ARR...cause they merged XI profits into XIV). This is like going into a race and taking the leader, and forcing him to move behind the runner up and push him so he can win and then shouting how amazing it is the runner up won gold.
Again I'm not saying XIV does not have more players than XI, I'm not saying XIV isn't successful and I'm also fully aware that being useful to XIV is a benefit to us. What I'm saying is XIV wants and needs XI players numbers to add to its own for PR and financial report reasons and they would not want to lose all steam players or all XI players equally.
If you can't accept XIV operations value XI for numerous financial and pr reasons, you're purely arguing form a position of fanboy pride.
Since you play both and are fully aware XI and XIV have been merged I'm not sure why you're even arguing at all.
Alhanelem
07-01-2022, 04:30 AM
The point I was making is that FFXI player accounts make up a significant addition to FFXIV'sI know this, and I still fundamentally disagree. You're comparing the entire game to one segment of the other game's population.
FFXIV doesn't "need" its numbers padded by any other game, be it FFXI or anything else. Finanical reports not seperating this information has no meaning whatsoever. (You still haven't linked these financial reports). You are implying a relationship and meaning that quite frankly I don't agree exists.
Zero-Hour
07-01-2022, 06:54 AM
It ends just fine many times.
Possibly, not seen one yet though.
The problem is you can never please everyone, there's always an "old salty" who thinks all change is bad and nothing can be legitimately improved. While FFXI is classic, the idea that it can't be improved is nonsense.
Yes, indeed FFXI could be improved, but the history of re-mastered and tinkered with says otherwise.
The problem would probably manifest itself in the guise of some higher-up business-type in SE who think they know what the target audience want and go all out pushing that agenda, all the time while having no actual clue what the players really want. For instance, totally changing the battle system for "something more up to date". Doing so would completely change the game.
The best re-masters are those where they take the original game as-is and just 1080p the graphics, while leaving the story, game play, battle system exactly as it was.
Lets face it, they are not going to be selling a remastered FFXI to anyone other than the original player base, a modern audience would quit if they were not in endgame within a week of starting.
Pixela
07-01-2022, 04:40 PM
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Sp1cyryan
07-02-2022, 04:10 AM
So about the topic at hand...
Dihlyte
07-03-2022, 12:46 AM
I would love if FFXI was remastered (not remade) with the exact same mechanics and similar minimalist UI.
The only things I would like to see changed for FFXI is the camera, hotbars (or lack-thereof) and graphics. Keep everything else exactly the same. I mean there is a reason we play FFXI instead of FFXIV, and its not because we're poor, or have outdated PC's, its because we enjoy the immersive, expansive, and extremely deep gameplay! At least that is why I play XI now.
If FFXI looked and played like say FFXIV 1.23b in terms of the graphics/hotbars but with the FFXIV 2.0-6.0 Camera control system (not the angles, just how fluid it moves) and everything else like FFXI now, I personally feel it would make so much more money!
I think it might even go toe to toe with FFXIV. There is a large playerbase out there who love traditional true RPG gameplay, that are floating from MMO to MMO, not quite satisfied, and I think if XI got a graphics and controls update, it would do amazing to capture that audience!
Dragoy
07-03-2022, 01:28 AM
The camera is actually one of the things I'd /not/ change too much. It has a kind of a weight to it that I like, and even though I often find myself kind of fighting against it, I still prefer how it works most of the time when compared to modern game engines.
Similarly the characters seem to have more weight to them than those in X¦V for example, which is a bit funny.
I played with the completely new GUI they were working on for a bit on the test server, and I'd really like to see that being worked on once more again even though I don't personally really mind the GUI being what it is. It would be great to have it as an alternative though.
I'm not sure how I would feel about higher resolution and more detailed textures even. Maybe I could live with those.
I think one of the things on top of my list graphics-wise would be the draw distance, which makes things look pretty broken at times.
In general I don't think I'm in favour of a "remaster" for the reasons that others have already mentioned as well: they're often making things worse, wasting everyone's time and money, but it would still be interesting to see what they would do with the GUI if they had the funding to work on it again (I think Matsui mentioned he'd like to overhaul it too).
Aside from all that, I'd like the general performance of the client to be improved, since it's pretty dated in all kinds of aspects, being tied to old technology and all that.
Alhanelem
07-03-2022, 02:09 PM
I would love if FFXI was remastered (not remade) with the exact same mechanics and similar minimalist UI.
The only things I would like to see changed for FFXI is the camera, hotbars (or lack-thereof) and graphics. Keep everything else exactly the same. I mean there is a reason we play FFXI instead of FFXIV, and its not because we're poor, or have outdated PC's, its because we enjoy the immersive, expansive, and extremely deep gameplay! At least that is why I play XI now.
If FFXI looked and played like say FFXIV 1.23b in terms of the graphics/hotbars but with the FFXIV 2.0-6.0 Camera control system (not the angles, just how fluid it moves) and everything else like FFXI now, I personally feel it would make so much more money!
I think it might even go toe to toe with FFXIV. There is a large playerbase out there who love traditional true RPG gameplay, that are floating from MMO to MMO, not quite satisfied, and I think if XI got a graphics and controls update, it would do amazing to capture that audience!
FFXI's interface isn't minimalist, it was just designed for a much lower resolution than most of us are playing at today.
However, I agree about the mouse control. FFXI's mouse controls are just utter garbage, the mouse is essentially useless in this game even though it supports it. The camera control is indirect- it's really just pressing the IJKL keys depending on how you move the mouse.
The other big thing I think needs to be iimproved for the game to resonate with people today is for the game to be more responsive. Get rid of or reduce animation locks throughout the game. Yes, it would affect gameplay, but I think anybody would be hard pressed to come up with an argument as to why animation lock shouldn't be revisited. I the game's behavior in this area is inconsistent at best, where some things will happen regardless of animation, some things will interrupt some animations, and other things have to wait for any and all animations to play before they can happen. Most egregious is simply engaging/disengaging. I can press attack on a target, and simultaneously get cured by an ally. This forces me to wait. Then a monster casts a spell, forcing me to wait longer. Then someone else casts another spell.... the way the game can chain animation locks is just silly. This has been probably my biggest gripe with the game since forever.
The only valid argument against this I can see is "we've played with it this way for decades." While a valid argument, just because we've played with the game this way doesn't mean it was a good design. It adds an artificial element of challenge- i.e. not the good kind. Making the game more responsive to input (i.e. always doing something when you press the button) will make it a lot more fun just by itself.
Pixela
07-04-2022, 06:57 PM
Some things to keep in mind if they did this.
They would have to change the dat file system to add proper mipmap support (this is a system that adds smaller versions of every image to stop shimmering as you move closer / further away from things), every single file would need to be updated and mipmaps added if they added larger textures. This is something near every game has, and something they could not add to XI because PS2 hard drive space was so limited.
The PS2 and more accurately the hard drive limitations off the ps2 crippled this game.
I don't even know if the devkit has the functionality to add mipmaps, if it does it would still require every file to be manually updated. That's a lot of work.
The install size of the game would more than double.
This is purely if they did a simple remaster and added the original textures or scaled them up.
It needs to be kept in mind that modders do things in ways that would never be allowed be a proper game developer, so just cause modders can do something it doesn't follow a developer can do it the same way.
Cesil
07-10-2022, 12:51 PM
I wish this game would get updated, but I gave up hope once Yoshida said in an interview that the FFXIV devs work on FFXI when they have free time.
This game deserves so much more, it makes me so sad. FFXIV 1.0, when we were told it was FFXI part 2, was the biggest MMO launch in history (although it quickly died out of course :P ) If they remastered it, for sure we'd see a lot of folks come back to check it out, but it'll never happen. They're updating FFXIV graphics though :/ I play both games...FFXIV gets boring fast, but FFXI has so much potential. Anyway, I could go on and on lol I'd love to see it would happen but highly doubt it ever will.
Pixela
07-10-2022, 08:03 PM
xi is kept running to appeal to xi players, they don't want to take any spotlight from xiv.
updating graphics for xi would be kind of dumb from a business standpoint
Cesil
07-11-2022, 12:22 AM
xi is kept running to appeal to xi players, they don't want to take any spotlight from xiv.
updating graphics for xi would be kind of dumb from a business standpoint
If they actually updated it they could appeal to more than just the "xi players", that was my whole point. Point is moot though, they're never going to do it anyway lol ; ;
And yeah, it seems like they don't want to do anything to take away from XIV :/
Zehira
07-11-2022, 05:15 AM
Yeah, FFXIV gets boring. WoW killed mmorpg's for us old schoolers.
After I got bored and wanted to do something and share the gifs with my friends. More reasons why FFXI's engine needs to be updated. (Something I couldn't do in FFXI though)
I am the Captain MEOW!
https://i.imgur.com/A5D1wVA.gif
And my alt character. Oh, another lady with the blonde hair! <3
https://i.imgur.com/joertDY.gif
Animated blood from the movie "Shoot em up." One of my favorite underrated movies. (A British actor in an American movie XD) Though, this seems inappropriate but they thought this is sick!
https://i.imgur.com/AKPIonu.gif
Lortheron
07-11-2022, 10:41 PM
https://youtu.be/klIXa5EfqJQ
Square Enix = Rockstar;
FFXI = RDRO;
FFXIV = GTA5.
Alhanelem
07-12-2022, 03:35 AM
Lol, yeah sucks to be an RDR fan right now HAH
Zehira
07-17-2022, 10:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pPizWrL6ao
My thoughts exactly.
Monsuta_Man
07-28-2022, 08:11 AM
xi is kept running to appeal to xi players, they don't want to take any spotlight from xiv.
Last time xi and xiv were getting major updates at the same time, one shutdown and the other got an expansion the following year.