The STF does nothing and I'm going to post every report I file as proof.

[Immortal]

So what is your point to all this then if you don't care? You are more concerned about bots that do almost nothing to your average player, rather than one that is actively hurting the playerbase and live streaming it to show his narcissism.

[Immortal]

Also it looks like their original account got banned from the forums lol

[Uriah]

"Original" was years ago. I'm on version twenty something. I guess "lol" though teehee.

I also guess you're just going to have to get blocked. I have no interest in your opinions.

[Alhanelem]

I know he's not, he's streaming it, I also don't care. If you care, you report it, maybe it'll work but you've got 70 reports minimum before it gets seen. Better get started.
man it would be pretty hilarious (ant telling) if I reported them and they got in trouble when yours didn't >.>

[Uriah]

I didn't pay that sub so I had to switch. Too much heat. Change lightning rods, buy more time etc

[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

#259
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[Gwydion]

I still can't believe you're paying SE to stay subscribed to FFXI ....for the privilege of posting these STF reports daily for over 2 months.

[Uriah]

Well, start believing. I'll be doing it every single day until the servers close. Or they offer terms, but my terms are unreasonable.

[Alhanelem]

I still can't believe you're paying SE to stay subscribed to FFXI ....for the privilege of posting these STF reports daily for over 2 months.
It seems like a hobby at this point.

Some people collect things.
Some people like to build lego sets.
Some people like to play sports.
He likes to stuff the STF mailbox.

[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Cesil]

Yeah I reported plenty of folks many times and they're still there a year later ^^;

[Uriah]

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[Immortal]

this guy are sick

[Pixela]

If you report a bot and the person is at the keyboard they cannot ban them.

People doing this usually oversee them.

[Uriah]

If you report a bot and the person is at the keyboard they cannot ban them.

People doing this usually oversee them.

lol, the hell are you talking about. They don't check if you're there or not, this isn't 2005

[Uriah]

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[Dzspdref]

My question then is this:

The ONLY way you can have ABSOLUTE PROOF of the bot being there is if YOU are also there 24/7 watching it every second of this time as you claim it is doing, and then YOU can be considered a bot for doing something that you claim is impossible to do 24/7 - watching someone cheat, ergo you are cheating yourself.
And if you are recording a video of them there, then posting malicious (possibly not 100% true but also possibly not 100% false), then YOU can be brought up on termination by harrassment to a player.

Have you ever thought of that?

"Don't throw stones...."

And no I don't use ANY 3rd party tools, I use 100% vanilla FFXI ingame options only. (I run on Windows VISTA so there are no possible ways for me to use any.)

[Uriah]

Take that stupidity somewhere else. They're botting all day long. Go look.

[Catmato]

My question then is this:

The ONLY way you can have ABSOLUTE PROOF of the bot being there is if YOU are also there 24/7 watching it every second of this time as you claim it is doing, and then YOU can be considered a bot for doing something that you claim is impossible to do 24/7 - watching someone cheat, ergo you are cheating yourself.
And if you are recording a video of them there, then posting malicious (possibly not 100% true but also possibly not 100% false), then YOU can be brought up on termination by harrassment to a player.

Have you ever thought of that?

"Don't throw stones...."

And no I don't use ANY 3rd party tools, I use 100% vanilla FFXI ingame options only. (I run on Windows VISTA so there are no possible ways for me to use any.)

You mean the bot just happens to be there, running, every single time he checks, but isn't there 24/7?

[Alhanelem]

You mean the bot just happens to be there, running, every single time he checks, but isn't there 24/7?
Maybe the guy controlling it knows he's being stalked and takes his breaks whenever his stalker isn't online? :p

[Catmato]

Maybe the guy controlling it knows he's being stalked and takes his breaks whenever his stalker isn't online? :p

Maybe, but judging by how often he posts here, he seems like the kind of person to never be offline.

[Gwydion]

I think what amazes me the most is that many STF reports and forum posts doesn't constitute harassment or griefing, then I don't know what else does. (I mean, that's also against TOS and enforce-able, right?)

[Uriah]

That's why the name is blacked out. No name, no rule broken.

Which is apparently their stance on it, they deleted the thread 6 times before I started blacking it out.

[Pixela]

You know they can just block you sending reports if you're spamming right?

[Uriah]

You know they can just block you sending reports if you're spamming right?

lol, no, they can't. I can't even fathom why you would think something so incredibly stupid.

The only thing they can do is keep ignoring the reports, which is the entire point. They already do that. You could suggest (and I already pretty much guarantee this is the case) that the .com and/or any english submission doesn't even go through. And again. That's the entire point. The whole premise of the STF is a lie.

[Uriah]

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[Alhanelem]

That's why the name is blacked out. No name, no rule broken.

Which is apparently their stance on it, they deleted the thread 6 times before I started blacking it out.
He's not talking about on the forums. He's talking about issuing like 70 reports against one person. Which, technically doesn't break any rule that I can see, but you could subjectively call it harassment.

I mean, to be fair, I've reported the same two wintraders/cheaters at least as many times for deliberately throwing PvP matches in FFXIV, which they have clear rules against but don't enforce at all.

Apparently to get SE to uphold its rules, you have to be a famous twitch streamer coming to your game from a competing MMO getting harassed on camera in order for them to actually ban someone for that.

[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

#284
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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Ariandra]

HI!
I used to have an obsession over finding, tracking(stalking) and reporting RMT bots all day too, started to consume me, then I discovered India scammers, now that's fun, keep them on the phone for up to 2 hours while pretending to be old and not knowing how to use a computer.
Also if you really want to put RMT bots and SE on blast, stream them 24/7, SE will either remove you, or the bots, to save face.

[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

#291 87th time reporting the same bot for botting to the task force that does nothing
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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Catmato]

Do you have any special plans for report #100?

[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Catmato]

Do you have any special plans for report #100?

I take that as a no?

[Uroah]

I might do 100 on the jp site in jp from a jp ISP. The fact that I can report a player one hundred times for a banable offense to prove that the people in charge do not care about anything but money is not something to celebrate.

[Uroah]

(un)Lucky report number 100 for the same bot.
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[Pixela]

I might do 100 on the jp site in jp from a jp ISP. The fact that I can report a player one hundred times for a banable offense to prove that the people in charge do not care about anything but money is not something to celebrate.

Chances are you're botting and a RMT too and you're trying to get rid of the competition.

I would bet money on that being the case actually.

[Uroah]

I couldn't care less, actually

Feel free to report me to the STF, but as you can see, it will accomplish nothing. They can't be bothered to do anything.

[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Alhanelem]

I don't care if they fix it, Just saying it's problem I have seen happening. That's the beginning and the end of it for me.

Unity chat is randomly broken. That's something they should look into with someone else's time. If they care. Because I can't reply there-
This isn't how software development works. A bug report with incomplete information is worse than no bug report at all. Almost any QA team reads through hundreds (or more) of internal and external reports every day. If you don't provide clear and concise steps, I'm just going to ignore it and move on to the next one until I find one that gives me the information I ask for in a bug report. I write this as an actual game dev QA. You don't get to dig someone for ignoring your bug report when you didn't follow the guidelines that were clearly spelled out. If you really don't care enough to do that, then don't post it, and let someone else who does care post it. Otherwise, you're in fact sabotaging issues that legitimately may need to be addressed. And as a bonus, taking the time to declare *in your report* that you're not going to follow the rules just gives me all the more incentive to ignore it in favor of investigating issues where all the information has been provided. You have no idea how many bug reports I see from players of the games I've worked on where I get a one sentence report in broken english saying "game is broked" or "I lag lots" or "XYZ thing is broken, fix your game". And that's with a pre-made template that the user doesn't even have to copy paste or otherwise set up.

You've made your point with the RMT reports, but bug reports are an entirely different situation- properly sent bug reports with a solid 100% repro do in fact get addressed (at least in cases where the issue is significant enough to warrant the effort to fix it.

[Uroah]

I can only assume you want your last strike, keep it up, you'll get it

Arguing with me ain't where it's at chief

[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Alhanelem]

I can only assume you want your last strike, keep it up, you'll get it

Arguing with me ain't where it's at chief
Don't have any, so not concerned, you can't intimidate me
Threats are kind of counterintuitive to the whole concept of reports.

[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Uroah]

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[Alhanelem]

Welp. Secretly even while heckling you here, ive been having a similar experience in that other game, though for a different reason.

"Square Enix GMs do nothing and I'm going to post the reports I made of FFXIV PvP abusers to prove it"
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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Alhanelem]

I realize the odds of this are probably remote, but have you been also issuing reports via the help desk -> I want to report a violation of the playonline agreement ?

If we want to be generous and assume anyone has read any of these reports, it is possible that they couldn't find an RMT connection and that's why they're not acting. The STF only deals with RMT.
In other words, if this is just a guy botting this NM for personal gain and not to funnel gil into an RMT bank, it's possible that regular GMs could act where the STF would not. Botting is a user agreement vilation even if there is no RMT.

[Uriah]

If you send a report via the help desk all you get is an automated reply. GMs do absolutely nothing with third party tools, the STF exclusively deals with automation now. I'm legit not even sure why GMs exist anymore. They don't recover lost items (unless you twist their arm and only with very specific items and only one time), they don't answer questions, the "i'm stuck" option is automated, they don't help players in ANY way, they don't answer calls about harassment, they don't take action against bots, they don't do anything about the 24/7 rmt yells, they don't send people to gaol anymore, they don't do a damn thing.

But yes, I do it ANYWAY.

[Dragoy]

The STF Unit has always seemed to be like something that works with a (large) delay, so to some extent this is to be expected I think.

Similarly, it can be a bit difficult to actually contact a GM in game, but it does happen, and sometimes they even '/tell' you to ask if a bug you reported is still happening! Crazy, right?

Sometimes they even asked if I suspected botting being involved in a case that I was reporting... and no, while it was a while ago, it wasn't 15 years or so in the past.

But yeah, I've reported some super obvious bots every week or so for over a year, and nothing happened, but I actually haven't seen some of them around for a while now, so maybe something did finally happen... or they got bored at running their bots.

I can relate a bit due to having worked as a GM elsewhere myself, but I was doing it for free, which most definitely is not what is happening here, so I would expect to see quite a bit more happening.

On that note, while I do find this thread a bit silly in ways, it is highlighting existing problems, and that is good.

[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

#351
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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

Another extremely rare occurrence, the standard Sahagin bot is offline, replaced by the other Sahagin bot tonight.
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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Dzspdref]

I was in SSG today, for over an hour. I stole quite a few sagahin away from the "bot" you are complaining about. When I did, they did emotes of /angry, /huh, and ran circles around me. Obviously NOT a bot at that point, so guessing possibly SE did a check on your supposed bot and found out like I did that there's an actual player there, and then your complaints and filing of activity will be totally ignored.
Just though I would be going there to help you and your claims, and found out I disproved your claims... at least for that hour or more I was there.
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You might want to do something better with your time, so that the person (or persons) running that character don't file complaints of harassment against you for stalking them and not playing your game yourself. (I politely did NOT mention anything to the player that you are following, stalking, and using your time as you see fit to follow them. Nor did I say anything about your postings here. Not my place and it's your money to waste following and watching him play a game..... oh wait! That's a thing now for idiots on YouTube... watching other people play games that they could be doing themselves! Got it! Have your own fun and enjoy!)

[Uriah]

Just because you're dumb enough to not know what botting looks like doesn't mean he isn't botting. You can watch the screen and bot at the same time.

I have forcefully moved the player on several occasions. You can't do that unless they're botting. Players also don't stand completely still and rotate their body 180 degrees in first person when enemies spawn behind them.

And he logged out after you posted. Wonder why.

[Uriah]

#361
As you tipped off the sahagin bots for the day, I get to report the Reisenjima bot instead.

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[Uriah]

Well Sahagin bot has been offline for 30 hours, not the first time they've been gone for long enough to fool me into thinking you actually did your job for once.
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[Dzspdref]

Just because you're dumb enough to not know what botting looks like doesn't mean he isn't botting. You can watch the screen and bot at the same time.

I have forcefully moved the player on several occasions. You can't do that unless they're botting. Players also don't stand completely still and rotate their body 180 degrees in first person when enemies spawn behind them.

And he logged out after you posted. Wonder why.

I never said he logged out. I posted that WHILE I was on the game, and he was still there with me for quite a while and was still there after the hour I spent there, NOT doing that spin in a circle motion, but trying to claim them before me. He DID get another, but we did about a 50/50 mix of claims.
Please do not add words I didn't type, nor do not assume I am dumb as someone that spends their time sitting and watching other people play. That is not necessary as I was only seeing what you were talking about and trying to verify claims. NOR did I mention to them that they were being pointed out and harassed online for how they play the game by you, which I thought was polite of me. Seems YOU'RE the one that likes to be spiteful and venomous in your replies. Ok, that's last time I try to help you prove your claims.
Have fun not playing your game just watching other people play! Viva Vana' Diel!!

[Uriah]

Rather than waste my time explaining to you how to identify a bot and why you aren't too bright. You've already proven that would be wasted effort. It's much easier to simply block you and carry on.

You offer nothing of value and wasted space in my thread.

Tharly is also blocked, they seem to have forgotten.

[Tharly]

You offer nothing of value and wasted space in my thread.

This entire thread has nothing of value and is wasted space.

[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

Alright, if I hadn't been fooled 3 times previously I might actually think you FINALLY temp banned Sahagin bot, after 140 reports. The fact that it has taken one hundred and forty reports is absolutely revolting.

[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

#371
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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Catmato]

keep fighting the good fight

[Uriah]

#381
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[Dzspdref]

Wow you put someone like her on blocklist, and the spam miraculously disappears!

[Uriah]

Yes coming to the thread where I say IN THE TITLE I will be spamming every single day, and then complaining about the spam.

Again, you really aren't very intelligent. Glad you won't be wasting your time further. This threads purpose is not communication. It is to show how many times I can report the same bot while the STF does nothing. NOT for you to look at it every day and wonder why there isn't anything but the thing that is supposed to be there and whine about it.

[Uriah]

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[Catmato]

Yes coming to the thread where I say IN THE TITLE I will be spamming every single day, and then complaining about the spam.


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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Alhanelem]

Yes coming to the thread where I say IN THE TITLE I will be spamming every single day, and then complaining about the spam. Saying ahead of time that you're going to be breaking a rule doesn't make it okay to subsequently break the rule.

[Uriah]

Ironic we're almost on the same page. The entire point of the thread is that they have a severe and obvious lack of rule enforcement.

Weird.

[Alhanelem]

Ironic we're almost on the same page. The entire point of the thread is that they have a severe and obvious lack of rule enforcement.

Weird.
Actually, they did enforce the rules. But given how you created/started using an alternate account, it seems to me like they know how you will likely respond if they do enforce the rules in this case, thus deciding that, in this specific instance, the consequences of not enforcing the rule are better than those of enforcing.

In other words, you're carefully walking a line where you know you will be tolerated, but not acting so egregiously that they will be willing to deal with what happens by taking the appropriate actions perscribed by the rules.

[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Uriah]

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[Alhanelem]

My question to SE is this: While I don't generally approve of the behavior of this user, I don't have any reason to believe they are being dishonest. While the STF is only supposed to investigate whether someone is engaging in RMT activity or not, why hasn't the reported user ever been, at the very minimum, suspended for terms of service violations? While it's technically possible that someone could have so little of a life that they'd actually enjoy just repeatedly killing the same NM over and over day in and day out without using any third party tools (and while many of us are probably guilty of using certain tools to improve the quality of the game experience and not to harm anyone else), at the very minimum they're disrupting the game experience for others by denying anyone else the opportunity to hunt this NM.so why have they not been actioned in any way whatsoever after 6 months? Why not just slap them on the wrist and see if they dare to continue?

[Uriah]

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My question to SE is this: While I don't generally approve of the behavior of this user, I don't have any reason to believe they are being dishonest. While the STF is only supposed to investigate whether someone is engaging in RMT activity or not, why hasn't the reported user ever been, at the very minimum, suspended for terms of service violations? While it's technically possible that someone could have so little of a life that they'd actually enjoy just repeatedly killing the same NM over and over day in and day out without using any third party tools (and while many of us are probably guilty of using certain tools to improve the quality of the game experience and not to harm anyone else), at the very minimum they're disrupting the game experience for others by denying anyone else the opportunity to hunt this NM.so why have they not been actioned in any way whatsoever after 6 months? Why not just slap them on the wrist and see if they dare to continue?

Because they don't actually do anything. The STF is a lie now, it only exists to scare you into avoiding their wraith. You should see the other bots that have been in the same camps for years too. The one in QSC. The one(s) in reisenjima. The ones that camp tonberries in Rancor. There are dozens of them in the same place for years, not months.

I am still waiting for them to try to say that the website where you report wasn't actually sending the reports and they've "never seen" any of these reports. "we didn't know!"

[Alhanelem]

I'm just approaching this from the angle of "okay, RMT pay us lots of money in sub fees (or something)".

But again, not all botters are RMT, this one may or may not be. You'd think though that they would at least create an appearance of action by, as I said, giving them a warning or a 24 hour suspension or something. It won't likely cost them any money to do this, and could deter more casual abuse.


i.e. money can't be an exuse for this. Eliminating botting is impossible, but they could certainly cut down on the more flagrant (and long term) abuse with little risk or cost.

Don't get me wrong, i'm still tired of seeing this section light up only to find its another report post. But I do not doubt that these reports are real and I agree it's pretty sad how long this has gone on and the user in question apparently hasn't had so much as a talking-to.

[Dzspdref]

I'm just approaching this from the angle of "okay, RMT pay us lots of money in sub fees (or something)".

But again, not all botters are RMT, this one may or may not be. You'd think though that they would at least create an appearance of action by, as I said, giving them a warning or a 24 hour suspension or something. It won't likely cost them any money to do this, and could deter more casual abuse.


i.e. money can't be an exuse for this. Eliminating botting is impossible, but they could certainly cut down on the more flagrant (and long term) abuse with little risk or cost.

Don't get me wrong, i'm still tired of seeing this section light up only to find its another report post. But I do not doubt that these reports are real and I agree it's pretty sad how long this has gone on and the user in question apparently hasn't had so much as a talking-to.

The person he/she (Uriah) is complaining about is an actual person. I've talked to them in game. I've stolen kills from them. I've watched them try to steal back from me when I was double-killing targets when I was on PUP with me on one and robot on 2nd. They chatted back to me asking me why I was there (I said i needed a drop for a quest and i'd be gone). They stood and watched me for a bit after that leaving pops for me, and /checked me and my bazaar.
I've told this to him/her (Uriah), I've told this to STF. They told me they read my report. They won't do anything yet since it was an actual interaction with a real person. Uriah is wasting their time. This happened WAAAAY back not long after her first reports on this.
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[Alhanelem]

The person he/she (Uriah) is complaining about is an actual person. I've talked to them in game. I've stolen kills from them.
I'm aware of this... I never said they weren't lol.

[Uriah]

Of course it's a person, someone has to run the bot. The person also bots in dho gates on their other similarly named accounts.

And they're very obviously botting when they're botting.

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They need their cell number, SSN and the last four digits of their cat.

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The Abyss Sahagin bot was offline there for a moment, I almost had to report a different bot today.

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[Alhanelem]

Can you show us a confirmation to show that you're actually clicking submit?

[Uriah]

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Can you show us a confirmation to show that you're actually clicking submit?

Literally impossible

You click submit, you get a generic page that is identical every time.

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They provide ZERO confirmation, and zero way to prove it's being sent or received, so they never have to follow through. That's the entire point of the thread. They pretend they're getting no reports and no one can prove they're lying.

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[Alhanelem]

that was the only confirmation I was looking for actually. The page that appears after you click submit. I just wanted to make sure you were actually following through.

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[Catmato]

Maybe he's just gotten really unlucky with that BRD testimony drop.

[Haldarn]

Maybe he's just gotten really unlucky with that BRD testimony drop.

He'll realise it's in his Mog Locker in a few months time and kick himself.

[Uriah]

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[Alhanelem]

Maybe he's just gotten really unlucky with that BRD testimony drop.
FFXI Forums post of the year?

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What you need to do is somehow catch them interacting with an RMT character to collect the items/gil etc. If he literally never leaves the area, someone's got to come to him.

Even if someone's reading these reports (who knows, probably not), the STF's mission isn't to stop botting, it's to stop RMT. I still don't see the evidence that this botter is RMT. Not every botter is.

[Uriah]

Whether they sell the gil or not is completely irrelevant.

Reports to the Special Task Force can be used to report illegal activity within FINAL FANTASY XI (such as the use of third-party software or the selling of game data through RMT).

[Alhanelem]

Whether they sell the gil or not is completely irrelevant.
Despite your citation and the likes you've recieved, I've never known the STF to be involved with anything that isn't RMT related. If anyone wants to provide examples of STF involvement in non-RMT actions, I'd be happy to see it....

[Catmato]

I'd be happy to see it....

We'd all like to see evidence of that. This is a 50 page thread asking for it.

[Uriah]

If you call the GM's via the support menu, they tell you to contact the STF (when they finally bother to answer the call, 12 hours later). The STF does nothing. The GM's do nothing. That's the point.

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[Alhanelem]

We'd all like to see evidence of that. This is a 50 page thread asking for it.That's not what this thread is asking for, it's asking for them to do *anything at all."

I'm specifically noting i've only ever, in the history of its existence, known the STF to action reports of RMT, not merely cheating. The periodic reports they historically gave out give numbers of accounts banned for RMT activity and the amount of gil taken out of circulation, which reinforces that as the true purpose.

[Catmato]

That's not what this thread is asking for, it's asking for them to do *anything at all."

I'm specifically noting i've only ever, in the history of its existence, known the STF to action reports of RMT, not merely cheating. The periodic reports they historically gave out give numbers of accounts banned for RMT activity and the amount of gil taken out of circulation, which reinforces that as the true purpose.
okay

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