View Full Version : Remove the logout timer in towns.
Pixela
02-24-2021, 02:32 AM
There is no reason to have a 30 second logout in towns as there is in the open world, it's just annoying.
Players that have a large number of alt characters to get gobbie box items have to endure 30 second logouts on each one, every time, every day. There is a financial incentive to encourage players to want to do this, 30 second logouts go against this.
I get that it's probably difficult to differentiate between zones for normal logout but how about adding a new "/flogout" text logout command that only works in capital city zones?
Just use the box next to the Mog House, like Windurst Walls for an example, instant logout once inside.
I think the 30 second timer should be removed everywhere. even 20 years ago it was dumb. Log out and drop hate, who cares.
Immortal
02-24-2021, 08:33 AM
signed and agreed
Gwydion
02-24-2021, 06:01 PM
30 second logout is most likely a synchronization method to the server.
Alhanelem
02-26-2021, 10:46 AM
I think the 30 second timer should be removed everywhere. even 20 years ago it was dumb. Log out and drop hate, who cares.
No, in combat areas it has a purpose, so you can't log out in combat to avoid death / strip hate etc. Basically if you're not in a safe enough position to be able to wait 30 seconds then it's not okay to log out instantly.
avoid death / strip hate
who cares.
Ten Characters
Alhanelem
02-26-2021, 11:37 AM
Ten Characters
The devs do and that's all that matters.Ut
But, of course, you cared enough to comment and make a childish post about it. Ultimately the ability to exploit logging out for combat advantage / death avoidance is the very reason you can't log out instantly. The original idea was about logging out in town areas, where death is not normally possible outside of being poisoned or otherwise KO'd by a status. In such places, it is not an issue.
It's explotable and it has a reason to exist elsewhere.
A pointless reason that no longer matters.
Exp penalty is all but non existent and fast travel makes a death moot. it's merely an annoyance for the sake of annoyance in all instances.
Alhanelem
02-26-2021, 12:40 PM
A pointless reason that no longer matters.
Exp penalty is all but non existent and fast travel makes a death moot. it's merely an annoyance for the sake of annoyance in all instances.It has nothing to do with EXP penalties.
Pixela
02-27-2021, 12:43 AM
I think the 30 second timer should be removed everywhere. even 20 years ago it was dumb. Log out and drop hate, who cares.
It exists to stop players killing any monster in the game with bio. Cast bio > logout > login with no aggro > cast bio > repeat till dead 4 hours later.
I remember trying to kill the RDM af3 ghost like this but it would always kill me before 30 seconds allowed me to logout.
Alternatively, you could take a monster to 50% HP then logout and log back in. call all fresh trusts wiht full HP and MP and go back to it.
It makes sense in battle ares, not towns.
Again. Who. Cares.
You give entirely too much energy to giving a shit if someone kills a mob by logging out, when there are literally one thousand bots active.
Let's get technical. It's imbalanced. A pup/smn/bst can Cast Dia, sic pet, log out, kill an enemy by logging out ad-infinitum. Non pet jobs can't. So it's a moot point.
Pixela
02-27-2021, 05:36 AM
I and a lot of other people care.
No you don't. You don't care at all you just argue over dumb shit because you're bored. It has no affect on anything whatsoever.
Absolutely no one cares if some rando is able to log out fast enough to avoid a death. It in no way affects you or anyone in any capacity in the slightest.
Alhanelem
02-27-2021, 01:41 PM
Again. Who. Cares.
You give entirely too much energy to giving a shit if someone kills a mob by logging out, when there are literally one thousand bots active.
Let's get technical. It's imbalanced. A pup/smn/bst can Cast Dia, sic pet, log out, kill an enemy by logging out ad-infinitum. Non pet jobs can't. So it's a moot point.
Maybe you don't care about exploits and zombie tactics, but if it worked, everyone would do it. There wouldn't be any point in doing anything else.
Do you really want the entire game to be log out with dots for ez win?
Your rationale of "people cheat, so why not give us exploits?" is absurd.
Pixela
03-03-2021, 01:22 AM
During free access I was checking all my level 1 characters for gobbie box items, it was taking me around an hour a day to do them all.
Now free access is over I have no desire to pay for them to do it, because it takes too long to logout. I and others would do this and pay for those characters if it wasn't so annoying.
I don't get why this isn't changed when there is a long term financial gain in doing so.
Stompa
03-03-2021, 09:14 AM
I personally enjoy the thirty seconds logout. It makes me feel happy.
However, I think there should be a Toggle, so that people who want to logout instantly, can choose that Toggle Setting.
And people like myself, who enjoy the Old School thirty seconds logout, can choose that Toggle Setting, and retain our thirty seconds logout.
Also, Automaton /Lockstyle Pyjamas. The time is now!
:)
Alhanelem
03-03-2021, 01:34 PM
As I said, I think quickly logging out in town areas is fine and should be implemented. I just 100% oppose it in any area where combat can take place.
alytez
03-10-2021, 08:18 PM
For "outside" towns, why can't the servers just keep your character there? This is what many other games do. Even though you've decided to close the game your character still lingers for X amount of seconds. If you ALT+F4 this is what happens anyway.. This allows both instant logout if you desire, but also prevents you from avoiding death since your character is still on the server for the next 30 seconds being beaten to death.
though I doubt they will do this on a technical sense (outside of R0 flag)... In town, I agree removing timer would be nice.
Alhanelem
03-11-2021, 07:33 AM
For "outside" towns, why can't the servers just keep your character there? This is what many other games do. Even though you've decided to close the game your character still lingers for X amount of seconds. If you ALT+F4 this is what happens anyway.. This allows both instant logout if you desire, but also prevents you from avoiding death since your character is still on the server for the next 30 seconds being beaten to death.
though I doubt they will do this on a technical sense (outside of R0 flag)... In town, I agree removing timer would be nice.
If you really want to do that, you can use task manager (or should you be using the windower thing, you can use the terminate command)