Take all delivery box

[Isola]

It's been a long long long long long time. And I've asked in the QOL thread at least 6 or 7 times but individual threads seem to occasionally get your attention.

If the delivery box is loaded with 8x gil can we PLEASE get a take all button. it's just an unnecessary step to click 8 times.

[Isola]

Bump.

Take All option for Delivery Boxes. YES! PLEASE!

It takes around THREE HUNDRED button presses to clear a "full" delivery box. and "full" is only a temporary term, as Delivery boxes only load actively every hour (I think) the maximum active amount is 100. so you if you have 200 items you have to wait for the other 100 to load after emptying the first 100.

[TullemoreAsuraFFXI]

Completely agree here /w this QoL upgrade if it's possible. The display (interactive) inbox and outbox could definitely be enlarged to 32 slots, 48 slots or 64 slots. The larger the better. FFXI can retain it's current active amount in queue, upgrading and renovating the UI for it would reduce alot of unnecessary irritation.

[Isola]

Bump.

Take All option for Delivery Boxes. YES! PLEASE!

It takes around THREE HUNDRED button presses to clear a "full" delivery box. and "full" is only a temporary term, as Delivery boxes only load actively every hour (I think) the maximum active amount is 100. so you if you have 200 items you have to wait for the other 100 to load after emptying the first 100.

[Fatty]

There are still so many little things that can be implemented in this game, which can make a big impact in terms of quality of gameplay. This is one of them. This should definitely be implemented.

I'd say, anything that cuts down interactions & waiting time MUST be implemented. Because over time, those little things create fatigue and wear you down. They make the game really tedious, especially when you have to manage your inventory so much. And when you go and play another game, the difference in quality of gameplay is like night and day.

For FFXI to sustain (or even increase) its player numbers, QoL updates must have high-priority, and they must be implemented on a continuous basis.

[Isola]

Take All option for Delivery Boxes. YES! PLEASE!

It takes around THREE HUNDRED button presses to clear a "full" delivery box. and "full" is only a temporary term, as Delivery boxes only load actively every hour (I think) the maximum active amount is 100. so you if you have 200 items you have to wait for the other 100 to load after emptying the first 100.

Ten Characters

[Okieeomi]

It's been a long long long long long time. And I've asked in the QOL thread at least 6 or 7 times but individual threads seem to occasionally get your attention.

If the delivery box is loaded with 8x gil can we PLEASE get a take all button. it's just an unnecessary step to click 8 times.

Greetings and salutations!

We've checked with the development team and there are few reasons why this is difficult to implement:

Under the current system, even if a "Take All" button were added, it would not change the processing speed when receiving all of the items.

Additionally, one would not be able to stop the process once the "Take All" is activated until all items have been placed in the player's inventory. This could be very problematic in situations involving large number of items. For example if there were 50+ items, it would take a long time to load and would prevent the player from moving while this is being processed.

For these reasons, unfortunately the development team is not considering implementing a "Take All" feature for the Delivery Box.

[Isola]

Ok see, you completely ignored what I said.

IF; there is 8x gil in the CURRENT box - allow "take all" as in "take only the 8x gil in the current box" not TAKE EVERY SINGLE THING IN THE ENTIRE BOX.

Also; Gil only. Not items.

Also; not concerned about SPEED, but BUTTON PRESSES. Confirming. every. single. time. is. excessive. yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money.

I made all this very clear.

PS. we would stop using dboxes as extra inventory if you would stop making 1000 new items every year with no where to put them.

[Alhanelem]

Ok see, you completely ignored what I said.

IF; there is 8x gil in the CURRENT box - allow "take all" as in "take only the 8x gil in the current box" not TAKE EVERY SINGLE THING IN THE ENTIRE BOX.

Also; Gil only. Not items.

Also; not concerned about SPEED, but BUTTON PRESSES. Confirming. every. single. time. is. excessive. yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money.

I made all this very clear.

PS. we would stop using dboxes as extra inventory if you would stop making 1000 new items every year with no where to put them.
You know, you don't need to be rude.

And I know what you're trying to say but it treats gil the same as items, so it probably isn't trivial to make an exception for one thing over another.

[Alhanelem]

I DO have to be rude. Because when I simply ask, they don't bother to read properly.

But, you don't need to reply. I'm going to push this until it happens. And that's the end of it.
And I'll keep calling you out for being rude, because being rude doesn't get you what you want. And unless you're a Square Enix developer, you don't know how the system works internally and how easy or hard it would be to change. I don't see any evidence that they "didn't read it properly." And if they didn't, then you need to word your request better. Not be a jerk.

I only have a hypothesis, although a fairly reasonable one based on observation and available information, to be fair. But this isn't even that big of a deal. It doesn't even make sense to be so adamant.

I've never really used the dbox as inventory space, either. If I don't have immediate need of something, I sell it or toss it. If I need it later, then I can just buy it or get it again. I don't keep every crafting material or other random junk item that drops to me .

[Isola]

Then we'll keep bumping the thread and they'll keep seeing it. Win/Win.


If the delivery box is loaded with 8x gil can we PLEASE get a take all button. it's just an unnecessary step to click 8 times.

Not concerned about SPEED, but BUTTON PRESSES. Confirming. every. single. time. is. excessive. yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money.

[Alhanelem]

Then we'll keep bumping the thread and they'll keep seeing it. Win/Win.

That's fine, and they'll keep doing nothing because if they're smart, they'll listen to people who make civil posts over those who rage over minor things.

I mean, seriously, what do you think their motivation would be to lie to you. If they say it's not feasible, then it's not feasible. And if they did as they said they could and just mad auto take each sack of gold one at a time, the increase in convenience would only be in the number of buttons pressed- the wait time would still be the same.

[Isola]

Ask me if I care. You should already know the answer. I've gotten mutliple things fixed/changed/adjusted. And I'm rude about it every time.


If the delivery box is loaded with 8x gil can we PLEASE get a take all button. it's just an unnecessary step to click 8 times.

Not concerned about SPEED, but BUTTON PRESSES. Confirming. every. single. time. is. excessive. yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money.

[Alhanelem]

Ask me if I care. You should already know the answer.

I don't expect you to care, but it sure does look silly if you keep making that kind of reply. You clearly have too much time on your hands.

[Isola]

I very much currently do.


If the delivery box is loaded with 8x gil can we PLEASE get a take all button. it's just an unnecessary step to click 8 times.

Not concerned about SPEED, but BUTTON PRESSES. Confirming. every. single. time. is. excessive. yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money.

[Isola]

Bump

If the delivery box is loaded with 8x gil can we PLEASE get a take all button. it's just an unnecessary step to click 8 times.

Not concerned about SPEED, but BUTTON PRESSES. Confirming. every. single. time. is. excessive. yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money.

[Dzspdref]

No. They said no. Live with it.
If you're THAT worried about wasting that extra 8~10 seconds to click boxes individually because you need to get back to the game OMG SOOOO fast, then here's that programming reasons why they cannot do it, and stop asking because it CANNOT be done unless you REALLY want to lose more stuff, and it is not fixable from that "Ooops I oopsied and hit the wrong button, can I get a fix it please?" request:
1. They would have to make it for ALL items, not just for gil, and changing the deliverable status of 40,000+ items is a LOT of work in the database functions.
2. If you sent yourself from an account alternate a rare/ex item and they did have "Take All", then it would happen same way as treasure drops: You would DROP the items you cannot carry since it is Rare and cannot get them back if you unknowingly or accidentally have one in inventory or mog house anywhere, like if you sent yourself 2+, or someone else sent you a rare item unknown to you.
3. If you sent yourself items and you have a full or near full inventory, and there are more items in delivery box than you can hold (especially if people sent you stuff and yourself stuff unknown to you), then the overflow would Drop or be lost, just like treasure pool, and there's no way of retrieving them. And if you think "Oh but gil doesn't take up any inventory slots so that shouldn't count!", well when it is in Delivery box, it does. It has a tag of (item|gil|received|###) and then AFTER you take it, it converts to gil quantity, but while it is being moved from DBox to inventory to gil balance, it IS an item. So other items over the 80 count inventory are lost.
Hopes this helps explain why they cannot and will not, but knowing you, you'll just complain even more to no avail and then wonder why SE hates reading complaints about what you want and what they said cannot be done, and you can lose those 8~12 seconds of you game time and be happy when your game-wallet pouch goes "SPROINGGGGG!" from being too full instead of going "OMG No No NOOOOOO!!!!" when you lose items you didn't mean to drop into oblivion. :D

[Isola]

You clearly don't read, but thanks for the bump

In fact, for the people who can't read, I'm going to draw a pretty picture, so even you can understand.

It doesn't get any easier than this.

https://i.imgur.com/0pWaieC.png

[Gwydion]

Isola,

I understand your assertions and your insistence based on your logic. However, the internal representation of things in the delivery box, such as Gil (or Crystals in your picture) is still AN ITEM. The delivery box can hold a maximum of 128 such items despite that it can only show you 8 items to "Take". For the reasons our Rep. Okieeomi posted as well, such as being unable to speed up the loading performance and also delaying the player's ability to move, and even the corner-cases mentioned by Dzspdref, it makes sense that the development team would be unwilling to attempt to engineer a solution for a "Take All" button that could adequately cover all cases for both small and large delivery boxes simultaneously.

Please understand that the development team (while I personally disagree with their (Beastmaster) solutions sometimes) do try to preserve the gamer's experience when considering any new implementations.

I hope you understand, politely accept and move on.

[Isola]

Regardless of what gil is represented as, the game still knows that gil is gil.

I know that it knows this, because there is specifically a limit on how much GIL you can send to someone, so there is a specific flag for it. It can be done, exactly like I want it to.
Again, I don't want "take all available" I want "take all visible" But if they want to revamp the entire delivery box system so I can take ALL the gil in the entire box, that'd be great too. or if they want to cut the system entirely and put the gil straight in my repository that'd be incredible!

[Alhanelem]

Regardless of what gil is represented as, the game still knows that gil is gil.

I know that it knows this, because there is specifically a limit on how much GIL you can send to someone, so there is a specific flag for it.

There is a limit in how much you can send at once. If there is an actual provable limit in the combined total you can send in multiple seperate transactions, then that logically would just be a variable on the sender's end- keeping the same information in multiple places is a waste and I can't see them having implemented any such limit that way.

Really though, if the button presses aggravate you that much, just set up a keyboard macro to run through each of the 8 slots and pressing enter the appropriate number of times. Then you can just press your macro and go get a drink. This isn't a problem most players have to deal with on a constant basis. (emphasis to dodge arguments about how many people have to do it how often)

[Isola]

Bump to say Bump


If the delivery box is loaded with 8x gil can we PLEASE get a take all button. it's just an unnecessary step to click 8 times.
https://i.imgur.com/0pWaieC.png
Not concerned about SPEED, but BUTTON PRESSES. Confirming. every. single. time. is. excessive. yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money, yes, I want my money.

[Gwydion]

Regardless of what gil is represented as, the game still knows that gil is gil.

I know that it knows this, because there is specifically a limit on how much GIL you can send to someone, so there is a specific flag for it. It can be done, exactly like I want it to.
Again, I don't want "take all available" I want "take all visible" But if they want to revamp the entire delivery box system so I can take ALL the gil in the entire box, that'd be great too. or if they want to cut the system entirely and put the gil straight in my repository that'd be incredible!

You've received an answer that a Take-All-Gil button was technically infeasible, and would provide no return for the investment of limited development resoures as you are not most players. You are an outlier for this request.

You even go so far as to disregard facts when I stated the underlying representation of your delivered gil is still an item named "Gil." You don't want to hear reason or logic, but in your petulent, infantile, narcissism, you still expect SE to devote developer resources to this task.

I hope the moderators lock this thread. This is a waste of everyone's time.

[Isola]

It's not going to stop me from bumping this forever, and always. Because I feel like it, and I can.

Their answer was inadequate.

[Catmato]

You've received an answer that a Take-All-Gil button was technically infeasible,The response was provided under a mistaken premise: that people want to take everything out of every deliver box slot, including queued items, in a single button press. If they would give a response to the actual request, be it positive or (most likely) negative, I'm sure they would stop bumping the thread.

Edit:spelling

[Alhanelem]

The response was provided under a mistaken premise: that people want to take everything out of every deliver box slot, including queued items, in a single button press. If they would give a response to the actual request, be it positive or (most likely) negative, I'm sure they would stop bumping the thread.

Edit:spelling
I mean, you're splitting hairs here. I don't think the nature of your request substantially changes the work they would have to do to fufill it. Yes, your request was made under the basis of reducing button presses (rather than explicitly to save time), but technically "take all at once" would also save button presses, so they in effect shot down your idea as well even if it isn't exactly the same as what they thought you were saying.

I also personally don't believe that spamming the board with the same request over and over is going to produce a result. I can certainly tell you that if I was a staff member of a game studio (or even a moderator/community manager) I would ignore someone the more they repeatedly posted the same thing. Badgering people is never an effective means of getting what you want.

Just post it once. Weeks or months later if it still doesn't go anywhere, start a new discussion on it, ideally adding new or better information.

[Catmato]

I mean, you're splitting hairs here. I don't think the nature of your request substantially changes the work they would have to do to fufill it. Yes, your request was made under the basis of reducing button presses (rather than explicitly to save time), but technically "take all at once" would also save button presses, so they in effect shot down your idea as well even if it isn't exactly the same as what they thought you were saying.

I also personally don't believe that spamming the board with the same request over and over is going to produce a result. I can certainly tell you that if I was a staff member of a game studio (or even a moderator/community manager) I would ignore someone the more they repeatedly posted the same thing. Badgering people is never an effective means of getting what you want.

Just post it once. Weeks or months later if it still doesn't go anywhere, start a new discussion on it, ideally adding new or better information.

First, I'm not Isola, I didn't make any requests, and I don't agree with how rude and confrontational they can be.

Second, I really don't feel that it's splitting hairs. The work required for the actual request seems to me (though I am admittedly ignorant) like it would be much less work than the idea they denied.

Either way, every reply you make is bumping the thread and increasing the visibility.

[Alhanelem]

First, I'm not Isola, I didn't make any requests, and I don't agree with how rude and confrontational they can be.

Second, I really don't feel that it's splitting hairs. The work required for the actual request seems to me (though I am admittedly ignorant) like it would be much less work than the idea they denied.

Either way, every reply you make is bumping the thread and increasing the visibility.
As a hack (i.e. a keyboard macro) no, not difficult. As an actual code change? Nobody knows but SE, but tinkering with the same system, no matter what you're doing, is not likely to be any easier. But only SE knows this. Keep in mind all the other million things we've asked about that seem easy to us but SE said no can do.

And I don't care if talking to you bumps the thread because II (unlike a certain someone) know that it isn't going to magically trigger a new dev response because it won't.

[Isola]

Let's make a bet. If I get their attention, you delete your account. If I don't I'll delete mine.

[Dzspdref]

How about if you get their attention and (in some form or fashion) tell you to PLEASE SHUT UP AND LEARN GRAPHICAL INTERFACE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE to understand why No means "NO!!!" , then you delete your account.
If they get your attention and say they will put in on their "thing-to-do" list.... then you STILL delete your account, because we already know you're going to be too impatient to want to wait in line, since waiting 8~10 seconds is already WAAAAY too much for you to wait.
Here's the best option: delete your account, remove yourself from forums, and stop being a persistent illogical and selfish (programming illiterate) person always wanting more for yourself without thinking about the workload you'd be asking others to do for you for A GAME!
Innately, I DO understand the programming that goes into this game, I DO know the limitations for the interface technology (of which I think I was nicely eloquent and dumbed-down enough for even you to understand, even if unacceptable for your childish "I want it i want it i want it now!" standards), I DO understand you pay to play the game, and I DO understand you don't want to be logically acceptable of the things that cannot be done and just want to 'bump' in order to be annoying and just plain stubborn.
If it isn't what you want and you are paying to play, then go play another game that WILL pander to your stubbornness and ignorance and lack of understanding.

[Alhanelem]

Let's make a bet. If I get their attention, you delete your account. If I don't I'll delete mine.It's too bad we don't have that ability. But even if we did, you'd have to specify a time frame. After all, BSTs have been raging about the pet command changes nonstop since they happened, and SE hasn't even acknowledged that discussion since. And that's a significant gameplay issue. You're raising hell over a minor inconvenience and expecting them to respond a second time when they didn't for a debatably larger issue.

But I agree with the overall message of the user above, that regardless of whether they can do it or not and whether they respond or not, you're really making a mountain out of a molehill. UNless you're selling duped items you don't have to remove 8 stacks of gil from your dbox often enough for this chore to b e that much of a burden.

[Mikah]

I don't know why they deleted my response. But I'll just repost it.

I cared because I was selling so many items daily that my dbox literally failed to function. it would block my ability to sell on the AH, you can see this in my "auction house will not work" post.

Bumpity Bumpity Bumperoni.

It's not going to stop me from bumping this forever, and always. Because I feel like it, and I can.

Their answer was inadequate.

[Alhanelem]

I don't know why they deleted my response. But I'll just repost it.

I cared because I was selling so many items daily that my dbox literally failed to function. it would block my ability to sell on the AH, you can see this in my "auction house will not work" post.

Bumpity Bumpity Bumperoni.
it might shock you to discover there's more to the game than the auction house. I couldn't be in the situation you describe without literally living in front of it 24/7.

[Seish]

This thread should be closed. The Devs said no and nothing fruitful is coming out of it other than insults.

[Mikah]

it might shock you to discover there's more to the game than the auction house. I couldn't be in the situation you describe without literally living in front of it 24/7.

Wrong.

It only takes 100 sales to "soft cap" a Dbox and only about 500 to "break" the dbox. That's easy to do in a week when you don't feel like emptying the dbox because the terribad UI

[Seish]

You know what the simple solution is? Just select it by hand or even better, have multiple mules to sell your items.

[Alhanelem]

Wrong.

It only takes 100 sales to "soft cap" a Dbox and only about 500 to "break" the dbox. That's easy to do in a week when you don't feel like emptying the dbox because the terribad UIThat's nobody's fault but yours. I check my box every time I enter the mog house so theres never any chance of it even being full much less backed up with 100+ items.

[Mikah]

That's my whole argument. If the UI weren't such trash, I wouldn't mind doing that. But it is. So I don't.

The entire AH system and delivery box system are archaic garbage.

It's one of the only things in the whole game from inception that hasn't had any form of ease of use/quality of life upgrade. And this one is extremely easy to do, compared to the things they should've done.

[Seish]

So you want this out of being lazy?

[Alhanelem]

That's my whole argument. If the UI weren't such trash, I wouldn't mind doing that. But it is. So I don't.

The entire AH system and delivery box system are archaic garbage.

It's one of the only things in the whole game from inception that hasn't had any form of ease of use/quality of life upgrade. And this one is extremely easy to do, compared to the things they should've done.
Then perhaps you should channel your energy into something everyone would benefit from, a whole new UI. Like the one we were supposed to get that got abandoned.

[Mikah]

Bump, Take all option for gil, lemme have it!

[Alhanelem]

Maybe if somebody else cared enough to chime in....

Til then there's always the macro to press ENT → ENT → ENT → ENT ↓ ENT ← ENT ← ENT ← ENT for you.

[Alhanelem]

You can bump it 3,847 times, it wont change anything. Get over it and use a macro if it bothers you that much.

But since I know I can't dissuade you, you'd probably at least have better luck starting a new thread to re-frame your issue with the official response not clearly understanding what you were actually asking for (since you weren't asking to take out the entire item backlog, just what you could see in the box, negating their second point). If I was that passionate about something and they clearly didn't understand what I was talking about, that's what I'd do, since in my casual observation they rarely respond to the same thread more than once. (Then, if they're that worried about people being stuck during the processing, they could just add a single confirmation prompt and it would still be signficantly fewer key presses)

[Isola]

You can bump it 3,847 times, it wont change anything. Get over it and use a macro if it bothers you that much.


I really don't care how you feel about it, and I already told you I'm going to.

[Alhanelem]

I really don't care how you feel about it, and I already told you I'm going to.You should still seriously consider a new thread if it matters that much to you. Write a new post that makes it abundantly clear what you do want and don't care about. Just bumping this thread doesn't make that any more obvious by itself.

But whatever, you do you. I'm just saying, if you really want to persist, there are probably more effective ways to make your point. I suppose you think it's enough that it's in your siganture when you bump, but they probably have signatures turned off.

[Isola]

It was more than clear this time, I don't need a new thread.

[Zehira]

He is correct. We don't need a new thread. The problem is he lost all his supporters after the official response.

[Alhanelem]

He is correct. We don't need a new thread. The problem is he lost all his supporters after the official response.
I agree, but I thought I'd try a hand at being helpful to steer this away from being silly and towards being meaningful. But I guess he doesn't really want his take all button as bad as he says. :p

[Isola]

All I need is the thread to keep getting bumped, which you do, that's enough for me

[Zehira]

Off-topic: This is very interesting. Japanese players already have been doing that since 2011! Do we have one for the English speaking players too? :)

ＦＦ１１のスタッフさん達への応援スレッド (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/15431-%EF%BC%A6%EF%BC%A6%EF%BC%91%EF%BC%91%E3%81%AE%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%83%E3%83%95%E3%81%95%E3%82%93%E9%81%94%E3%81%B8%E3%81%AE%E5%BF%9C%E6%8F%B4%E3%82%B9%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%83%89)

[Gwydion]

What does it say?

[GoltanaBuukki]

Isola/Mikah = Eiryl

[Isola]

That's a bold and incorrect statement

I guess that makes Buukki = Pchan

[Zehira]

For years, Japanese players have been supporting the FF11 staff, worshiping, licking their boots, crying, and BEEEGGGING for stuff they want. They don't give a [beep] what you think about why they are doing that. That's very Japan for us all. We should do that too. Just give it a try and I promise you I won't laugh at you. :)

Anyway, I am sure Alhanelem, FF11/FF14 staff, and some other people could remember my infamous signature through the official FF14 forum during alpha and beta. Haruhi Suzumiya. aka God of Anime. I hope that makes a lot of sense to you. I don't know what the FF11 staff are thinking of you doing in Vana'diel but if you could give them some love and they will protect you with all their hearts. That's only a matter of time.

While I am perma-banned from the official FF14 forum not so long after FFXIV:ARR officially released, I always wanted to say to Yoshi and his dev team, Thank you for the Red Mage (actually took me 4 years of waiting). It's meant a lot to me. Everyone looked at me how strange I am with Red Mage, looked at my Legacy tattoo, and named me "Zehi".

For me, I already forgot Yoshi and my life is with Matsui and Fujito. Well, that's enough for me to say. :)

https://i.imgur.com/EEDkzLU.gif

[Zehira]

I agree with one Japanese player's wall of text. Thank you for reading my post about licking the boots. I also think the developers are wrong. (laughs)

The problem is we don't know what the developers are planning for the 20th anniversary. Replacing the game engine but keeping the battle system? The battle system itself needs to be fixed and well-balanced? (shrugs)

A lot of players are very rich on Asura. The rules are too good to be true.

[Alhanelem]

All I need is the thread to keep getting bumped, which you do, that's enough for meI mean, if you want to keep living in the fantasy land where this thread getting bumped without any additional support for your proposal actually accomplishes something, be my guest. But it hasn't, isn't, and won't accomplish anything.

I've offered you ideas on ways to potentially get better results and it seems like you'd rather just spin your wheels than actually try to accomplish something.

[Alhanelem]

For years, Japanese players have been supporting the FF11 staff, worshiping, licking their boots, crying, and BEEEGGGING for stuff they want. They don't give a [beep] what you think about why they are doing that. That's very Japan for us all. We should do that too. Just give it a try and I promise you I won't laugh at you. :)

Anyway, I am sure Alhanelem, FF11/FF14 staff, and some other people could remember my infamous signature through the official FF14 forum during alpha and beta. Haruhi Suzumiya. aka God of Anime. I hope that makes a lot of sense to you. I don't know what the FF11 staff are thinking of you doing in Vana'diel but if you could give them some love and they will protect you with all their hearts. That's only a matter of time.

While I am perma-banned from the official FF14 forum not so long after FFXIV:ARR officially released, I always wanted to say to Yoshi and his dev team, Thank you for the Red Mage (actually took me 4 years of waiting). It's meant a lot to me. Everyone looked at me how strange I am with Red Mage, looked at my Legacy tattoo, and named me "Zehi".

For me, I already forgot Yoshi and my life is with Matsui and Fujito. Well, that's enough for me to say. :)

https://i.imgur.com/EEDkzLU.gif
what a coincidence, I'm banned from there too lol. Though I still play of course.

[Isola]

Page bump. Take all gil delivery box option. <yes, please>

Official response given was inadequate and answered the wrong question.

[Zehira]

Page bump. Take all gil delivery box option. <yes, please>

Official response given was inadequate and answered the wrong question.

You edited too much even I saw the first words... I will put a NO on this thread. You don't own FFXI you don't own this forum at all.

[Isola]

Your opinion is irrelevant, kthanks

You don't like the idea, cool, I don't care. Don't upvote, simple enough.

[Isola]

Take all gil delivery box option. <yes, please>

[Alhanelem]

His approach is backfiring, and yet he doesnt really seem to care.

You know, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Just throwing that out there.

[Dzspdref]

His approach is backfiring, and yet he doesnt really seem to care.

You know, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Just throwing that out there.

Isola was already given an adequately answered response by forum moderators and staff.
It clearly states it cannot be done due to programming restrictions.
I stated that I understand how difficult it would be with the programming alterations, since I am extremely fluent on the intricacies and necessities for changing something as involved in this.
Isola refuses to care, only thinking about whining with "Oh I don't care what you think, I want them to do it so they HAVE to do it, even if it will break the game mechanics and we won't be able to use the bazaars or Auction House anymore. As long as I get what I want then screw the rest of the game"
And that ↑ ↑ ↑ is what will happen if they go along with changing it to what Isola wants.
She/He has one alternative to fix this to his/her point of satisfaction: go learn the programming skills needed to alter this, and create her own game and go play that.
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Now to wait for Isola to deny I know what I am talking about and that they are better than every other person that also pays to play, and continue complaining like a temper-tantrum-throwing baby instead of being so lazy to check their inbox once a day to solve their own problem that SHE created for herself, instead of having other people do impossible things to alleviate problems for something SHE created and only SHE seems to have, not anyone else.
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You think they're going to do take down the game and reprogram all the lines of code for every single item and then for gil quantity "item" (yes each quantity of gil is considered an ITEM until it gets received, but not until then, i.e. why it cannot be done. Think of it as an augmented item for players that cannot be stored, same programming problem) for just one person to be happy? Don't count on it. Let's see how many times it gets bumped because she's too stubborn and stupid to realize this. Then hopefully a moderator deletes it and bans her because of stupidity, stubbornness, and callous whining and wasting of time.

[Zehira]

Yes, thank you. I am sorry I didn't mean to say no. I know my English is very simple and broken and I am sorry. Heck, my sign language is 100 times better than my English anyways.

I studied C++ programming language from college years ago however that game engine was made for PS2 in mind. No matter how many pages this thread is creating, what the community rep said still does make sense. Like every time you zone your client always contacts the server for data and that is because of PS2's so tiny memory. The game engine itself hasn't changed a bit after they ended the console service. They are just throwing a plenty of weirdo stuff into the game and awfully having fun with it. Even though, FFXIV's "Take All" button works fine in the modern engine. :)


Greetings and salutations!

We've checked with the development team and there are few reasons why this is difficult to implement:

Under the current system, even if a "Take All" button were added, it would not change the processing speed when receiving all of the items.

Additionally, one would not be able to stop the process once the "Take All" is activated until all items have been placed in the player's inventory. This could be very problematic in situations involving large number of items. For example if there were 50+ items, it would take a long time to load and would prevent the player from moving while this is being processed.

For these reasons, unfortunately the development team is not considering implementing a "Take All" feature for the Delivery Box.

[Isola]

The answer given was incorrect. They assumed I wanted "take all everything"

I want ONLY take all 8 visible, IF all 8 are gil.

They also assumed it was in regard to withdrawal speed, it is not.

So try again.

[Zehira]

I know. Not only the programming language I studied. I also studied the internet stuff when I was a senior in high school.

Understanding the delivery box (receive) is not the same thing as the delivery box (send). You want a programmer to create a new function that able to take all up to 8 visible items (gil or not so it doesn't matter what) into your game client. Function stops after all up to 8 items become invisible. I am not an admin of their servers so I can't tell.

To the FFXI staff, would you please ask the dev team if it is possible to create a function like I mentioned above? Thank you.

Edit: Function also stops if the inventory is full.

[Alhanelem]

Isola was already given an adequately answered response by forum moderators and staff.
It clearly states it cannot be done due to programming restrictions.
The dev response was less "it can't be done" and more "If we did this, it wouldn't work very well for this reason that Isola doesn't care about."
His point is that he doesn't care about the processing speed, only about the repeated button presses.

Since I do agree that they fundamentally misnuderstood his suggestion, I suggested to him the smart thing, which is to make a new post with a revised premise so they understand what it is he really cares about. But it seems he'd rather bump an already answered thread than take his own suggestion seriously.

[Alhanelem]

The answer given was incorrect. They assumed I wanted "take all everything"

I want ONLY take all 8 visible, IF all 8 are gil.

They also assumed it was in regard to withdrawal speed, it is not.

So try again.

I've suggested numerous ways you can better communicate this to them, but you don't seem as invested in getting your idea as your repeated bumping of an already answered thread would suggest- because you would think you would explore ways to clear up what you feel is an obvious misunderstanding rather than repeatedly bash your head against a wall.

[Isola]

I'm not that invested, but I do like that it annoys you, so

Bump!

Take all gil delivery box option. <yes, please>

Official response given was inadequate and answered the wrong question.

[Alhanelem]

I'm not that invested, but I do like that it annoys you, so

Bump!

Take all gil delivery box option. <yes, please>

Official response given was inadequate and answered the wrong question.

Annoyed? Heck no, I'm actually rather amused to see that you like wasting your own time. :)

By all means, carry on. I apologize for thinking you actually cared about this issue. >.>

[Zyl]

Bump

Take all gil delivery box option. <yes, please>

Official response given was inadequate and answered the wrong question.

[Alhanelem]

sockpuppeting isn't very effective either.

[Dzspdref]

Annoyed? Heck no, I'm actually rather amused to see that you like wasting your own time. :)

By all means, carry on. I apologize for thinking you actually cared about this issue. >.>


Bump

Take all gil delivery box option. <yes, please>

Official response given was inadequate and answered the wrong question.

Then do as Alhanelem told you to do. . .

Begin a new thread with a "modified correct" question to be answered.

The moderators have already flagged this post as answered to original question; they will not reply to it nor to any bumping or "reworked" questions as it has been 'closed' on their end.

Your best bet to get the answer to your re-adjusted question is to begin a newer thread with it correctly and more detailed given requests.

And fyi, now that i have seen your re-worded and redefined request (which WOULD take a lot less work to do, albeit still a good amount of line but not anywhere near as time consuming or just plain impossible as your original request), i would also like to see an answer.

[Zyl]

Then you can make the new thread.

[Alhanelem]

why would we make a thread for you about an issue that only matters to you?

[Zyl]

why would we make a thread for you about an issue that only matters to you?
Looks like you're illiterate


i would also like to see an answer.

[Alhanelem]

Looks like you're illiterateOkay. Why would we make a thread about an issue that matters to you and one other person?

(Maybe that other person is more invested than you and will actually make the wise choice and make a new thread but I guess that's wishful thinking.

Also how about leaving out the personal atacks?

In fact I'll even do you one better and come up with a better (and equally unlikely) idea:

Combine all auction house sales income on the server side, since I really don't need to know which pile of gil came from which sale- we can see when individual items sell on the AH anyway- and have it simply state "The gil you recieved from auction house sales, XYZ gil." If it exceeds the maximum gil amount, then split it off there. That will vastly reduce button presses spent collecting it and is also a good idea and therefore probably won't happen, but there you go. You're welcome.

[Zyl]

I'm down for absolutely anything that improves the archaic delivery box AND auction house system. Fully and completely.

I would love if gil from the AH would go straight to my pocket. or to my mog garden box (repository), so that I never have to check it, that would be incredible. I would love if the AH system got an entire ground up overhaul. more items, better search, more competent sale feature (if someone is willing to pay more than the absolute minimum then the highest matching priced item should sell, screw undercutters!). I would love more inventory so players dont use the Dbox as storage. I would love it if I could set up a bazaar without my character having to be there.

All of those things seem impossible. My easiest solution is just to remove double clicking sales. it's really that simple. I just don't want to click 16 times, when one would suffice. The entirety of this game has too damn many extra clicks. Too many confirmations on things that don't NEED confirmations.

And while I'm ranting about UI, I. HATE. that all interactions are not the same. I LOATHE that sometimes the affirmative is the up option and sometimes the affirmative is the down option. That is INFURIATING.

[Zehira]

Maybe if stuff sold on the AH then your gil will be sent directly to the chest in Mog Garden so you don't have to worry about too many confirmations? Of course, stuff that are not sold will be sent back to your delivery box and you have to pick them up.

[Alhanelem]

The default being yes or no in confirmations is dependent on how likely the player is going to want to choose a particular option. For things where it's really no big deal whether or not you hit yes or no, they'll make yes the default. But if something like throwing an important item away or cancelling a superweapon quest or something major like that is on the line, they're going to default to the no to make sure you don't just click through it and ruin months or years of work.

I totally get why that is frustrating but there is logic behind it.

[Isola]

Buuuuuump

Take all gil delivery box option. <yes, please>

Official response given was inadequate and answered the wrong question.

[Gwydion]

Buuuuuump

Take all gil delivery box option. <yes, please>

Official response given was inadequate and answered the wrong question.

You refuse to accept that Gil is an item and that the delivery box is a queue (not a priority queue) only capable of processing one item (Gil included) at a time. SE gave an adequate response as to what limitations prevent them from completing your request. They even went on to say that load times would not improve (and even be worse) in situations where large quantities of items are received.

Your refusal to accept this response and your insistence to continue posting reflects poorly on other NA players and is only surpassed by a level of ignorance that you proudly and obliviously display.

Please spend some time reflecting inward and do better. After that, humbly accept SE's response and stop posting in this thread.

[Isola]

I don't care if it triples the time it takes to empty. That's not the issue.

I just want to press less buttons. Continuous verification and confirmation for every single GIL withdrawl is unnecessary. That's the problem you and they don't seem to grasp. And THAT is why I keep bumping it. and WILL keep bumping it.

The sale and delivery of gil is an archaic 20 year old system. It would improve server load to have gil removed from the delivery box system entirely and given straight to the player (or mog garden repository). It may even have potential to open up more AH sale slots.

[Gwydion]

I don't care if it triples the time it takes to empty. That's not the issue.

I just want to press less buttons. Continuous verification and confirmation for every single GIL withdrawl is unnecessary. That's the problem you and they don't seem to grasp. And THAT is why I keep bumping it. and WILL keep bumping it.

No. Wrong. Every single person understands your request. It is your lack of regard and appreciation for the limitations of the current system that prevent your request from being fulfilled. In fact, why would you accept pressing fewer buttons but having to wait three times longer? Why would you advocate for this kind approach?

More importantly, why would SE subject this delay on other players whose delivery box queues are nowhere near as large?

As I've said before, your insistence screams ignorance and petulance that reflects poorly on yourself and the rest of the NA player base.

[Sirmarki]

I don't care if it triples the time it takes to empty. That's not the issue.

I just want to press less buttons. Continuous verification and confirmation for every single GIL withdrawl is unnecessary. That's the problem you and they don't seem to grasp. And THAT is why I keep bumping it. and WILL keep bumping it.

The sale and delivery of gil is an archaic 20 year old system. It would improve server load to have gil removed from the delivery box system entirely and given straight to the player (or mog garden repository).

For someone who is concerned about button presses and time. Just how do you manage the 6 or so Mithra characters you have running around in circles all day long in Reisenjima?
Also with your sparks items, you manage to npc in what seems like a millisecond, run back, and repeat the process... Just sayin'

[Alhanelem]

Bump for funsies just to continue to prove how ineffective bumping an already answered thread is. >.>

[Isola]

Any bump is a good bump!

[Zehira]

https://i.imgur.com/ESwCeyp.jpg

[Emdub]

Greetings!

Thank you for taking the time to leave your feedback on our forums! We always like seeing player feedback and we can understand why you want such a feature implemented. Although we can appreciate the dedication you have towards your request, it has already received a direct reply, therefore, we will be closing this thread at this time.

We understand this decision might be a frustrating one, and we apologize for any inconvenience.

Thank you for your understanding!

-=Senior Game Master Emdub=-