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Fayona
10-09-2018, 02:39 AM
http://tinypic.com/r/2ekrq7r/9

Not sure where to turn I just lost everything I owned in the blink of an eye.

http://tinypic.com/r/ny63dk/9

This person is sitting right next to Oboro selling individual plutons for the price of a stack. I was on my way to Afterglow my ragnarok and I lost everything.

I called a GM and they recomended I post on these forums. I've been playing this game since 2004. I love this game and I dont know I'm just really hurt right now. It doesn't seem fair.

I've been waiting for the GM's supervisor to talk to me I've lost 79 million thats months of Ambuscade. I'm devastated.

Is there anything SE can do to help me ? This isn't right this person knew what they were doigng and tricked me. And Now i've been hurt by their deception.

Fayona
10-09-2018, 02:39 AM
http://tinypic.com/r/ny63dk/9

Fayona
10-09-2018, 02:40 AM
http://tinypic.com/r/2ekrq7r/9

Fayona
10-09-2018, 02:41 AM
I lost 79 million

Fayona
10-09-2018, 02:46 AM
Their name is Emiriant

Sirmarki
10-09-2018, 03:58 AM
This is [sadly] pretty common, some people have just lost all forms of moral code. I'm not sure if SE can do anything about it though.

Fayona
10-09-2018, 05:29 AM
Yeah, i guess, its just honestly hurts more cause I was about to make My ragnarok Ag and then got punched in the gut by a deceptive practice. The person is online to i've been casting protect on him. and he immediately turns it off

Isola
10-09-2018, 06:46 AM
Sorry you got screwed. But lesson learned I hope.

It's not hard to read. How do you even screw that up. I can understand buying White shells for Jade shell prices by mistake, but not this.

Pretty dumb to see it says 388k then you click and confirm, not only once, but twice 38,412,000.

And don't tell me you thought you were actually buying stacks. You cannot even hold 99 stacks.

Dzspdref
10-09-2018, 07:02 AM
Sadly many people have lots of things in their bazaar for absurd amounts of gil (Matrimony rings for 99,999,999 ring a bell?) SE won't be able to do a thing about it because you ARE asked multiple times before accepting if you want to purchase this item at this quantity at this amount before it lets you purchase them.

If you spammed through it, without reading, without noticing, without carefully reading the chat log about the absurd amount you were spending and you feel they cajoled you and cheated you out of gil; they didn't. You didn't carefully read and notice what you were doing.

SE won't do anything about it, because the bazaar-er didn't do anything wrong. There was nothing 'deceptive' about it. He had his prices clearly marked, and the screen clearly states how much you're spending on an item as you select it, multiple times.

It has happened before (to me once as I did same thing once for an Ordelle Bronzepiece) and the reply was "Next time make sure you look before you accept. Irregular or outrageous bazaar prices are not against terms of service."

You have 2 chances to deny/back-out of the purchase; slow down and read your screens.
If you have them filtered off somehow; then again, that's all on you.

Sorry to hear about it but he didn't do anything wrong sadly; but you agreed to his prices and paid for it, in more ways than one.

Fayona
10-09-2018, 07:04 AM
He's sitting right next to Oboro and its pretty clear he's gotten other since me i've been looking at his inventory. I clicked too fast because I was excited about AGing my ragnarok i never saw until it was too late

Sirmarki
10-09-2018, 07:17 AM
Sadly many people have lots of things in their bazaar for absurd amounts of gil (Matrimony rings for 99,999,999 ring a bell?) SE won't be able to do a thing about it because you ARE asked multiple times before accepting if you want to purchase this item at this quantity at this amount before it lets you purchase them.

If you spammed through it, without reading, without noticing, without carefully reading the chat log about the absurd amount you were spending and you feel they cajoled you and cheated you out of gil; they didn't. You didn't carefully read and notice what you were doing.

SE won't do anything about it, because the bazaar-er didn't do anything wrong. There was nothing 'deceptive' about it. He had his prices clearly marked, and the screen clearly states how much you're spending on an item as you select it, multiple times.

It has happened before (to me once as I did same thing once for an Ordelle Bronzepiece) and the reply was "Next time make sure you look before you accept. Irregular or outrageous bazaar prices are not against terms of service."

You have 2 chances to deny/back-out of the purchase; slow down and read your screens.
If you have them filtered off somehow; then again, that's all on you.

Sorry to hear about it but he didn't do anything wrong sadly; but you agreed to his prices and paid for it, in more ways than one.

Pretty much this...

There is no set price for items in a bazaar. There is absolutely no official guideline on what an item 'should' cost. It can be 1 gil, it can be 1 million gil. This is why they have the steps of confirmation as mentioned by Dzspdref.
It purely boils down to moral conduct, in this case, although we all know what the player has done is morally wrong. The only thing I can see in the terms that might remotely help you, but whether or not it covers this particular situation, I don't know:

"In-Game Fraud - Defined as any action to defraud another player with the intent to gain items or gil for personal profit. "

Fayona
10-10-2018, 12:54 AM
Personally I think sitting beside oboro with stacks of Rema stones like this for days at a time meets that definition.

I’ve seen other players fall victim and have been warning people I see not to fall for the same mistake.

But I think we can all attest to a level of excitement at finishing trials and rushing to AG so that we can play with a new weapon.

He keeps restocking the bazaar with more stones so I would say he is intending to mislead players for personal benefit

Suteru
10-10-2018, 06:31 PM
This has always been the way the game has worked, sorry.

Dzspdref
10-10-2018, 09:53 PM
And here's an old saying I know we've all heard before which applies here: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

And it seems he fooled you more than once since you did it for multiple purchases. Cannot blame anyone but yourself.

Lesson learned sadly :(