When FFXI mobile is released what will you do?

[DarkStoneDragon]

I made a poll asking this, would you play both ver. or leave PC or will you just stay on PC? me personally I'm just going to stay on the PC ver.

I do wished they could release an official HD graphics pack that you can opt. in to use when playing, as well as making a client more win. 10 friendly, here is the link to the poll.

Vote here (https://www.strawpoll.me/15782033)

[Justuas]

Since you can't transfer your character into the mobile version, I see little reason to stop playing the pc version.

[Pixela]

Majority of people do not play multiple mmorpg games, it's one or the other.

So if the mobile version is good and worth playing long-term it will 100% hurt all pc players, due to a mass exodus of players. Whether you like it or not, this will happen because that is human nature.

If it's bad (as I'm fully expecting it to be) then nothing will happen (infact it might boost pc player numbers due old players being so dissapointed and going to try pc again), current players will try it be totally underwhelmed and go back to farming omen.

Anyone that really thinks another version of ffxi opening and it being good will have no impact on the pc platform has no real experience with how the world works. Keep in mind that the majority of people keeping this game running are complete casuals.

[Alhanelem]

I will certainly try it out for curiosity's sake; but whether I actively playit or not beyond that, I still can't forget hte original game. :p

[Stompa]

I will not buy the mobile version, because I don't like mobile games. I don't own any mobile devices, no phones, no laptops, no mini consoles.

I'm still using my FFXI original Boot Discs from 2004, they are carved out of stone and have like pterodactyl bites on them.

I play FFXI at a computer desk with keyboard and mouse, in a comfy spin chair, in front of a massive wall TV, which fills my vision entirely, and makes me feel like I'm actually inside Vana'diel.

And on the desk are fizzy drinks and coffee and sweets. This is how computer games are supposed to be played.

I feel that even if a person works long hours, and commutes, it is still better to spend an hour in the evening, with real gaming on a big screen, with a grown-up keyboard and mouse, comfy chair and treats.

I don't see the point in trying to play games on a tiny screen, while being jostled in the supermarket or something, with little toy mini computers.

I don't feel that saying "I'm too busy to play on grown-up computers" is a real excuse, because I'm super-busy and I still manage to play at least an hour or so in the evening, on an adult PC.

In any case, I think that the PC version of FFXI is *perfect* and it is *exactly* how I always wanted computer games to be, and since the Mobile version will be *different* this automatically means it will no longer be *perfect*.

As always I hope it is successful, and other people enjoy it. I'll just not buy it or play it. See also ff14, ff15, etc. I always hope they succeed and make people happy, but I know that they will never be as good as the FFXI game I installed in 2004.
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[Alhanelem]

I don't agree with that last setnitment, only because Every game can be good in its own ways. I don't find it fair to compare games made in different eras for audiences with different expectations. I've invested meaningful time in 4 different MMOs and love them all for varying reasons. One will capture my attention more than another at any given moment, but that doesn't mean that any one of them is truly "better" than the other. I love FFXI for its diverse and beautiful world that has aged surprisingly well, and it has a more sociable community that makes even mundane tasks lots more fun than they would be otherwise. I love FFXIV for the intensity and its ongoing storyline, and also the ridiculous amount of music; I love MapleStory for its unique gameplay style (the 2D sidescrolling action style). I can not compare them to each other, I like them each for different reasons. XI will always hold a special place for me as my first MMO and for the lasting friendships I made that extended outside the game; but the others, as well as the many other non MMO games I've played and love all fit into the puzzle too.

Don't write off mobile games too quickly though. While too many of them are all the same with the same annoying monetization mechanics etc, there are a few out there that stand out. Just because a platform is known for having a lot of crap doesn't mean there isn't any good stuff either.

[Justuas]

Majority of people do not play multiple mmorpg games, it's one or the other.

So if the mobile version is good and worth playing long-term it will 100% hurt all pc players, due to a mass exodus of players. Whether you like it or not, this will happen because that is human nature.

I disagree it would hurt PC. Mobile games are designed to be played in short succession. I don't think it can outclass pc entirely whether it will be good or bad.

[Niooo]

As if I wouldn't camp NM's on company time .... totally buying it, even if I barley play it.

[Pixela]

I disagree it would hurt PC. Mobile games are designed to be played in short succession. I don't think it can outclass pc entirely whether it will be good or bad.

There are many people subbed for ffxi on pc that play no more than a few hours a week, losing these people will also hurt you. Since regardless how many hours you play, the sub is the same.

[Stompa]

I don't agree with that last setnitment, only because Every game can be good in its own ways. I don't find it fair to compare games made in different eras for audiences with different expectations. I've invested meaningful time in 4 different MMOs and love them all for varying reasons. One will capture my attention more than another at any given moment, but that doesn't mean that any one of them is truly "better" than the other. I love FFXI for its diverse and beautiful world that has aged surprisingly well, and it has a more sociable community that makes even mundane tasks lots more fun than they would be otherwise. I love FFXIV for the intensity and its ongoing storyline, and also the ridiculous amount of music; I love MapleStory for its unique gameplay style (the 2D sidescrolling action style). I can not compare them to each other, I like them each for different reasons. XI will always hold a special place for me as my first MMO and for the lasting friendships I made that extended outside the game; but the others, as well as the many other non MMO games I've played and love all fit into the puzzle too.

Don't write off mobile games too quickly though. While too many of them are all the same with the same annoying monetization mechanics etc, there are a few out there that stand out. Just because a platform is known for having a lot of crap doesn't mean there isn't any good stuff either.

This is going to be a long post, because we are dealing with the subjects of "quality" and "novelty" but it will stay on topic since the new era is all about the struggle between those two factors.

I will be using the metaphor of comparing computergames to homes we live in, rent or buy.

I built my first computer in 1981, it was a ZX80 kit-build. I wrote a machine-code game on it, called Stickman Cricket, where a little stick man hit a "." with a "l".

The game sucked, but it was 1981, so I thought it was OK. It was my home for a while, but I knew it was not my real home, it was small and uncomfortable and had fleas.

During the 1980s, I lived in rented homes called Attic Attack, Chuckie Egg, Nemesis The Warlock, Gryzor, Rygar, Double Dragon, Exolon, Elite, etc.

Those were my homes in the 1980s, they were like small apartments I was renting, they were quite nice, and I had fun. But I knew they were not my real home. They just didn't feel right.

In the 1990s and early 2000s I was playing a lot of games, they were cool, they were my temporary rental homes. But I knew they were not my real home. They didn't feel perfect.

Then FFXI arrived in 2004, and I was amazed, because I had found my real home.

The RPG Fighting Fantasy / Swords & Sorcery theme, medieval influences, the Equipment Grid, Macros, Text Menu scrolling, attack system, weaponskills, pets, mob kiting, friends, LS system, chat system, and the massive open world of Vana'diel where I could travel to obscure places and "do my own thing" ie. I could decide how the game would be played today.

I realised for the first time in my life that I was truly happy in my new home. It was the home I had always wanted to live in. I felt so comfortable. I never wanted to leave. I never wanted to find a new home.

We often hear stories about people who live in old houses, and a property developer offers them a shiny new modern house, with bright colours and shiny stuff. But those people don't want to move, even with a cash incentive.

This is how I feel about Vana'diel, FFXI on PC. I am so happy and at home, that even when game developers dangle new shiny modern games in front of me, I just yawn. Sure, they are shiny and modern, but they are not comfortable to me. They don't feel like my home feels.

Back in the 1980s I collected all the CRASH! magazines and C&VG magazines, and I still own the full sets of those from the entire 1980s. They are worth a lot of money now, lol.

Anyway, in those days, we rated games not just on Graphics and Sound, but on Playability. Graphics and Sound were nice, but they were never as important as Playability.

What we have with FFXI is a game that is festooned with Playability. It is so Playable.

The menus and equipment grid and combat system feel so natural and comfortable, even for a new player. And when you master the game system, you can perform miracles of gaming skill, there are so many ways for your personal User Input to *shine*.

FFXI on PC just plays so nice, and feels so right. I'm so happy when I play it. I don't feel the same way about the new modern shiny games, which make me feel uncomfortable and sort of useless, like I'm watching a movie and occasionally get to do something. They don't have the Playability that I seek.

So, in summary, FFXI on PC feels like home to me, I cherish every day I can spend in my home. I don't want to move to a new shiny home, it would break my little heartaru.

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[DarkStoneDragon]

So, in summary, FFXI on PC feels like home to me, I cherish every day I can spend in my home. I don't want to move to a new shiny home, it would break my little heartaru.

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Couldn't have said it better myself (couldn't get the whole post in here but the whole thing applies - the building your won PC part), with FFXI is like home away from home, it is the best game world that I know of (and I have played a ton of MMO's), nothing beats XI, that's why I hope it stays on PC or at least keeps PC servers up.

[Alhanelem]

So, in summary, FFXI on PC feels like home to me, I cherish every day I can spend in my home. I don't want to move to a new shiny home, it would break my little heartaru.You seem to be under the impression that this new game is intended to replace FFXI. I don't think that's the intention.




Anyway, in those days, we rated games not just on Graphics and Sound, but on Playability. Graphics and Sound were nice, but they were never as important as Playability.No review source with any credibility ever put aesthetics above gameplay.

[Stompa]

You seem to be under the impression that this new game is intended to replace FFXI. I don't think that's the intention.


No review source with any credibility ever put aesthetics above gameplay.

When we pick lines out of a big post, focus on those small details, we risk losing the overall context of the larger post itself.

I wasn't just talking about me not being interested in the Mobile version, I was talking about all new games. I'm not interested in any new games.

And I have never said that I believe the Mobile Version was intended to replace any other games. I said I don't want to play it, because I will be *Too Busy Playing FFXI On PC*.

In the huge post you quoted from, I went into detail, about how the FFXI PC version has a very well crafted Menu system, for scrolling abilities and spells etc. and it also has a Macro system, and a brilliant Equipment Grid system.

Those are just three reasons why I don't want to play new games. I try playing new games, and they look very shiny and pretty, but they feel CLUNKY, because I am used to the very precise, smooth and controllable Direct User Input mechanisms in FFXI.

I go to my friend's place and she always buys all the new shiny games, and I play them, and I'm just thinking "I could be at home now playing FFXI on my PC, instead of being here, playing these relentlessly unsophisticated eye-candy games."

FFXI on PC, is my favourite game of all time. The game engine is a masterpiece, it is elegant and profound.

FFXI PC core game engine is the height of sophistication and it has a unique gracefulness that makes modern games look crude and coarse.

When I switch from playing FFXI on PC, to playing these shiny modern games, it feels like I'm changing from wielding a perfectly balanced fencing sword, to wielding a crude caveman's bone cudgel. I am going from being a fleet-footed duellist wielding her finest sword, to being a common thug wielding a heavy lump of wet wood.

Games are not about the novelty, how new they are. Games are about the quality, how good they are. FFXI on PC, the actual game engine mechanism just feels perfect, it plays just how games should play.

Like I said in my first post, I am not a hater, and I always hope that new games succeed, I hope that the new games make people happy. Because I don't like seeing new ventures fail, I want to see people succeed and be happy in their lives.

But that is not the same as saying I will surrender my precious Game Time to play these modern shiny games, which just feel so coarse and clumsy and oafish and unsophisticated to me.

I have already played the most beautiful and perfect computergame of all time, and it is called FFXI PC Version.
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[Pixela]

You seem to be under the impression that this new game is intended to replace FFXI. I don't think that's the intention.

How do you think the entire xiv forum would react if a mobile version of xiv was coming out? I already know the answer and so do you, curious if you'll answer honestly.

[Alhanelem]

How do you think the entire xiv forum would react if a mobile version of xiv was coming out? I already know the answer and so do you, curious if you'll answer honestly.

They'd probably be excited for a mobile app. The funny thing is they made an april fools joke about an app that let you craft and gather in real life, and people actually wanted it (minus the smashing your phone against a tree part, perhaps)
They're smart enough to know that a mobile app can't replicate or replace the gamepaly experience of a true MMO, and so am I. If you think you're going to be walking around and smashing robber crabs exactly as you used to in FFXI, you're almost certainly mistaken. It is most likely going to be a story based experience with forced waits or pay to do it now type of things. I'm also smart enough to know that there's no way it could be just like the PC game because it couldn't control like it. Imagine playing straight up real FFXI using a fake touchscreen joypad on the screen. They're going to have to take liberties.

You are, like most of the active FFXI player base, salty about FFXIV and assume any such project must be specifically designed to ruin or destroy the thing you love, or some other conspiracy like that.

Open up that gosh darn mind and think about what else it could be besides a deliberate attempt at sabotage.

[Pixela]

You are, like most of the active FFXI player base, salty about FFXIV and assume any such project must be specifically designed to ruin or destroy the thing you love, or some other conspiracy like that.

Open up that gosh darn mind and think about what else it could be besides a deliberate attempt at sabotage.

My aunt had a cat for well over 5 years, she decided to get a new kitten because the old cat wasn't as active as he used to be and she wanted to get a new cat to "cheer him up".

The old cat she had had for many years that got all the attention suddenly got very little attention, the treats the cat used to have were now gone and were given to the new kitten. Those two cats hate each other with a burning passion, the hatred they feel for each other was caused by my aunt.


They'd probably be excited for a mobile app.

I have friends that play the game and I read the official forums, I think you're just a little bit wrong.

[Alhanelem]

My aunt had a cat for well over 5 years, she decided to get a new kitten because the old cat wasn't as active as he used to be and she wanted to get a new cat to "cheer him up".

The old cat she had had for many years that got all the attention suddenly got very little attention, the treats the cat used to have were now gone and were given to the new kitten. Those two cats hate each other with a burning passion, the hatred they feel for each other was caused by my aunt.



I have friends that play the game and I read the official forums, I think you're just a little bit wrong.

You think I don't play the game? I saw nothing but "great idea" when asked about mobile spinoffs. The rest of your post is meaningless and irrelevant to the discussion. Time passes, things change, it's just a fact of life. Why be salty about it? I loved FFXI for years and years and I still do. The fact that I've enjoyed FFXIV also doesn't change that. No matter what it does nobody past or present is going to treat this mobile app as a replacement to FFXI. And there's no way that it could unless it was literally a new client for the same game (same servers/characters/etc). I'm smart enough to realize this, you're smart enough to realize this. FFXIV isn't a replacement to FFXI either, and I say this as a player of both.

Just drop the bitterrness and salt already, it's just a game and what's done is done. That doesn't mean you have to like it, but it does mean you should stop pissing on it and anyone who likes these things.