JPside Dev Tracker Notes

[Nyarlko]

Since we haven't gotten any NAside notices yet, just putting out a PSA that they are planning on doing an emergency maintenance tomorrow to deal with the issues from the monthly update.

JPside announcements here (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/52833-%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%A2%E3%83%83%E3%83%97%E3%82%92%E8%AA%9E%E3%82%8B%E3%82%B9%E3%83%AC%E3%80%8017%E5%B9%B47%E6%9C%88?p=598144#post598144)and here (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/52833-%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%82%A2%E3%83%83%E3%83%97%E3%82%92%E8%AA%9E%E3%82%8B%E3%82%B9%E3%83%AC%E3%80%8017%E5%B9%B47%E6%9C%88?p=598156#post598156). Exact timing details are not available yet.

Also, though my precision may be lacking occasionally, I try to keep up w/ basic translations on BGwiki here (https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/118737-Dev-Tracker-Discussion). ^^;;

[Gwydion]

Thank you for doing this. You should be a community rep!

I love the FFXI player community for reasons like this.

[Aysha]

*reads* Cute, their response to bad healer Trusts is to point us to Ygnas which requires months of gruelling grinding quests in Adoulin.... hahaha, nice one, SE. *sigh*

[Zuidar]

*reads* Cute, their response to bad healer Trusts is to point us to Ygnas which requires months of gruelling grinding quests in Adoulin.... hahaha, nice one, SE. *sigh*

Can only hope they will make adjustments to coalition assignment rank up points and recharge rate of imprimaturs. Would also be nice to somewhat ease the time it takes to upgrade mog garden gathering areas and KIs for them because of the requirements. In general they should ease some of the requirements to starting the ygnas storyline quests so people can catch up and be able to gain that trust. Its ridiculous having that big block and some people will have to take long months to even catch up, period

I made this thread regarding Coalition assignment rank and Imprimaturs charge rate http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/52859-Coalition-Assignment-Rank-and-Imprimaturs-recharge-rate

[Aysha]

Yeah, getting Furrows Rank 7 is absolutely ridiculous. We did once-per-day for the past 4-5 months now and still don't have it on our mains, lol.

I don't feel like having to log on every 2-4 hours doing Aborscent seeds or what-not, JUST to get the Rank 7 furrows....

[Zuidar]

Yeah, getting Furrows Rank 7 is absolutely ridiculous. We did once-per-day for the past 4-5 months now and still don't have it on our mains, lol.

I don't feel like having to log on every 2-4 hours doing Aborscent seeds or what-not, JUST to get the Rank 7 furrows....

do Revival tree roots, they take 1 hour

[Aysha]

do Revival tree roots, they take 1 hour

Again, the emphasis is more on "I don't want to have to log on every hour to check the stupid thing". Because yanno, you either gotta leave the game running on your computer (which means you can do little else) or you have to actually log on (which takes 5+ minutes because of all the rigamarole you gotta do with POL, etc).

[Zuidar]

Again, the emphasis is more on "I don't want to have to log on every hour to check the stupid thing". Because yanno, you either gotta leave the game running on your computer (which means you can do little else) or you have to actually log on (which takes 5+ minutes because of all the rigamarole you gotta do with POL, etc).

I agree with what you're saying, I'm annoyed by that myself having to log every hour to doing it.

[Urmom]

If you don't want to log on as much best to use a higher hour one that gets more stuff per harvest

[Nyarlko]

If you don't want to log on as much best to use a higher hour one that gets more stuff per harvest

It has nothing to do with the amount harvested. Rank ups only care about # of harvests. It takes 512 harvests total to reach rank7, so you can math out how many days it takes if you harvest once per day... >_>;; That is why people use Revival Roots (1hr) or Arborescent Seeds (2hr) to speed up the process, but that method is very annoying as it requires a lot of time spent just zoning in to Mog Garden every 1-2hrs.

This is why I asked in the QOL thread for a new fertilizer that works on all nodes and converts all drops to crystals.. 512 harvests from furrows alone is a mountain of absolute trash drops, and I'd much prefer a mountain of crystals which I can actually use instead of inventory clogging junk that sells for 10g each.

[Urmom]

It has nothing to do with the amount harvested. Rank ups only care about # of harvests. It takes 512 harvests total to reach rank7, so you can math out how many days it takes if you harvest once per day... >_>;; That is why people use Revival Roots (1hr) or Arborescent Seeds (2hr) to speed up the process, but that method is very annoying as it requires a lot of time spent just zoning in to Mog Garden every 1-2hrs.

This is why I asked in the QOL thread for a new fertilizer that works on all nodes and converts all drops to crystals.. 512 harvests from furrows alone is a mountain of absolute trash drops, and I'd much prefer a mountain of crystals which I can actually use instead of inventory clogging junk that sells for 10g each.

When was that figured out? Last I did everyone said it was total number of items but people did lower recast ones because if you could check it it still increased a bit. iirc people were reporting that longer stuff would upgrade faster than stuff like roots if you only checked once a day. Any links to this number? Because heck if that's all it is furrows could upgrade way faster than anything else if you do roots

[Nyarlko]

When was that figured out? Last I did everyone said it was total number of items but people did lower recast ones because if you could check it it still increased a bit. iirc people were reporting that longer stuff would upgrade faster than stuff like roots if you only checked once a day. Any links to this number? Because heck if that's all it is furrows could upgrade way faster than anything else if you do roots

I personally confirmed it twice after they added the ability to check Mog Garden stats. Rank7 KI became available for purchase at 512x total harvests. -_-;; Checking on them during growth, fertilizer or not, and growth time per seed all have no relation to rank ups.

And I'm guessing that furrows being technically the fastest possible node is what prevents the devs from making it easier for everyone.

[Urmom]

I personally confirmed it twice after they added the ability to check Mog Garden stats. Rank7 KI became available for purchase at 512x total harvests. -_-;; Checking on them during growth, fertilizer or not, and growth time per seed all have no relation to rank ups.

And I'm guessing that furrows being technically the fastest possible node is what prevents the devs from making it easier for everyone.

.... post in gardens threads and update the wiki then geez! Wait what is this ability to check mog garden stats? I haven't really leveled them up since well shortly after they last updated that so don't know about that and heck that might have changed things then

[detlef]

Yeah if only someone would post in the wikis.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Garden_Furrows

[Nyarlko]

Yeah if only someone would post in the wikis.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Garden_Furrows Thank you detlef. ^^

You can scroll to the bottom of that page to see what the KI req's are.


.... post in gardens threads and update the wiki then geez! Wait what is this ability to check mog garden stats? I haven't really leveled them up since well shortly after they last updated that so don't know about that and heck that might have changed things then

Green Thumb Moogle > Learn About the Garden > Tidbits of Information <<< Spits out a bunch of stats, including everything needed for rank-ups.

[Urmom]

Yeah if only someone would post in the wikis.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Garden_Furrows

Haha didn't even realize there was now a page specifically for furrows since previously all the info was just on the main garden page. Seems was added a few months ago

[Aysha]

What I don't understand is why, when EVERY OTHER SPOT IN THE GARDEN is Once Per Day, would they make the Furrows Per Harvest?

Why not drop the number down to something reasonable, say, match it with the fishing nets, and just make it so you can only get the point once per day? That would have made so much more sense than expecting players to zone into the ultra-laggy Mog Garden (I mean seriously, it takes 30+ seconds to load...) every hour or two.

[Nyarlko]

What I don't understand is why, when EVERY OTHER SPOT IN THE GARDEN is Once Per Day, would they make the Furrows Per Harvest?

Why not drop the number down to something reasonable, say, match it with the fishing nets, and just make it so you can only get the point once per day? That would have made so much more sense than expecting players to zone into the ultra-laggy Mog Garden (I mean seriously, it takes 30+ seconds to load...) every hour or two.

IIRC, Mineral vein (mining) and Grove (logging/harvesting) are both a set number of harvests for rank ups as well. The difference is that those are counted for each harvest attempt with large daily caps, while furrows are counted once per row harvested. It's just a bit of spamming Enter for maybe a minute to clear out your vein for your 10x daily harvests, but you only get your 1x per row from furrows.

The main complaint I have here is actually only that none of the details are laid out in-game. ><;; There is no where that even hints at how furrows will lag if you don't harvest 2-3x per row daily. There is also no where that explains that if you go w/ the fastest growing things and pull all-nighters, you can be done w/ furrows in ~7x days. XD Even though that is far from a good idea, goes against the spirit of the Login Warning telling you not to forget your friends and family out here in reality, and would require 43x stacks of Revival Roots, the very fact that it is mathematically and systematically POSSIBLE is most likely why the devs refuse to change it.