Ambuscade, enough

[Domille]

Alright look, this is insane.

There is a THIRTY TWO PAGE QUEUE on Asura.

Tone these mobs down so people stop soloing. Seriously. Or stop letting them do it. Seriously.

There is more than a half hour wait between fights and the fight lasts 90 seconds. That's absurd.

No one cares about the presumed "challenge". If you made these fights 1 hit KO no one would bat an eyelash. Something needs to change.

[BlackHalo714]

Was just thinking the same thing 31 books when I checked it 5 mins ago. It was 23 something 4 hours ago. Busy since the update. I understand it is the weekend and it is usually busy. Having a cp campaign in a few days doesn't help it either. Everyone trying to finish the chore called Ambuscade.

[detlef]

I was assured that people didn't have a problem doing Ambuscade on Asura.

[Diavolo]

I was assured that people didn't have a problem doing Ambuscade on Asura.

http://i.imgur.com/CXOav08l.jpg (http://imgur.com/CXOav08)

[detlef]

Thanks for posting that. Now we have two testimonials in this thread.

[Mithlas]

That pic looks like an old ambuscade?

[detlef]

That pic looks like an old ambuscade?The update would've been September 6 JST, so what's shown in that image represents what it would've been like after that particular Ambuscade had been out for a month. Compared to the OP complaining about Ambuscade that's been out for less than a week. Apples to oranges perhaps?

[Diavolo]

That pic looks like an old ambuscade?


The update would've been September 6 JST, so what's shown in that image represents what it would've been like after that particular Ambuscade had been out for a month. Compared to the OP complaining about Ambuscade that's been out for less than a week. Apples to oranges perhaps?

http://i.imgur.com/22NZCuDl.jpg (http://imgur.com/22NZCuD)

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[detlef]

Feel free to post more screen shots if you like. I don't think the point was to say it's always impossible to enter. You're showing results for the middle of the day, assuming you're NA. But the OP's testimony shows what the demand can be if people want to go at the same time. It just means that people can't do what they want, when they want and it is what it is.

[Diavolo]

Feel free to post more screen shots if you like. I don't think the point was to say it's always impossible to enter. You're showing results for the middle of the day, assuming you're NA. But the OP's testimony shows what the demand can be if people want to go at the same time. It just means that people can't do what they want, when they want and it is what it is.

It was only posted because you were quick to discount the first screen shot as being inapplicable based on the date, as if Ambuscade's popularity has changed at all over the last several months. Just making sure that orange got replaced by an apple for those of you into fruits. ;)

[Jakuk]

The same on all games a content will be vastly more populated at certain key times.

[detlef]

The same on all games a content will be vastly more populated at certain key times.OP has a point though, if it reaches the point described then perhaps it should be adjusted. Just avoiding JP and NA peak times isn't always an option for people so I can see why players would be upset.

[Ketaru]

And that is why I am against server merges (for now). Solving the Ambuscade congestion problem is practically a prereq for a server merge.

[Ketaru]

There is more than a half hour wait between fights and the fight lasts 90 seconds. That's absurd.

That's probably as a group doing the lamias. If it's a soloer, I'm guessing they're skipping the whole Charm thing and fighting the flan instead. I'm hearing it takes about 10 minutes for a soloer, and that's if the player is on a job that is decent at doing mixed damage (like, say, COR or SMN).

[Nyarlko]

That's probably as a group doing the lamias. If it's a soloer, I'm guessing they're skipping the whole Charm thing and fighting the flan instead. I'm hearing it takes about 10 minutes for a soloer, and that's if the player is on a job that is decent at doing mixed damage (like, say, COR or SMN).

I can't see how the flan could take 10min tbh.. after like 2-3min it starts taking extreme damage and just melts. o.o;;
Took ~3-4min for me to duo Difficult w/ a newish thf (new lsmate who's not geared enough to handle harder difficulties yet) w/o doing anything special. Roughly same times regardless of the physical job I went on (tried BLU/THF/BST, BST/BLU both mastered) and really just comes down to letting the tank hold hate until the phase shifts and damage skyrockets then toss out a few sc to squish it. Also tried BLM/GEO nukes and they were the usual Ambuscade MDT-99% -_-;;; Just sit on it til it switches modes, the splatter it w/ ws/sc... no need to focus on mixed dmg jobs. Any physical dmg jobs should wreck it fine (assuming capped acc of course.)

Also... I find it amusing that this is basically a "This event is too popular! Please nerf!" thread. :3

[Domille]

Also... I find it amusing that this is basically a "This event is too popular! Please nerf!" thread. :3

Far from it.

What this thread is, is a "scrubs are wasting my time thread, make them stop or fix it". People are literally going in and standing there for the entire 30 minutes apparently just to clog the system up.

There is ZERO reason to solo ambuscade. Absolutely none. I don't care if you're naked 99. team. the. hell. up. With other naked 99s.

[Folken]

I can't see how the flan could take 10min tbh.. after like 2-3min it starts taking extreme damage and just melts. o.o;;
Took ~3-4min for me to duo Difficult w/ a newish thf (new lsmate who's not geared enough to handle harder difficulties yet) w/o doing anything special. Roughly same times regardless of the physical job I went on (tried BLU/THF/BST, BST/BLU both mastered) and really just comes down to letting the tank hold hate until the phase shifts and damage skyrockets then toss out a few sc to squish it. Also tried BLM/GEO nukes and they were the usual Ambuscade MDT-99% -_-;;; Just sit on it til it switches modes, the splatter it w/ ws/sc... no need to focus on mixed dmg jobs. Any physical dmg jobs should wreck it fine (assuming capped acc of course.)

For some reason, sometimes it switches to an Addle/MDef down/MEva down aura instead of the ideal one. It starts taking very little magic damage and the physical damage doesn't go up. Sometimes it just doesn't switch auras out of the initial Slow/Def down/Eva down aura. No idea what triggers the switches.

[Nyarlko]

Far from it.

What this thread is, is a "scrubs are wasting my time thread, make them stop or fix it". People are literally going in and standing there for the entire 30 minutes apparently just to clog the system up.

There is ZERO reason to solo ambuscade. Absolutely none. I don't care if you're naked 99. team. the. hell. up. With other naked 99s.

Naked party? Sounds like fun :D

Hadn't heard about any griefing like that though.. How did you hear about this happening? Was someone foolish enough to announce that they were doing it? Unfounded rumors? (I actually want to know, since actual evidence would lend strength to the request for any necessary adjustments/actions on the devs' part.)

If that is indeed happening, perhaps an auto-boot from zone if no actions by any party members within 10min? Could be as low as 5min, but I have seen ppl DC on zone-in and it took a bit to get logged back in due to the "That character is already logged in. Please wait." issue.. -_-;; Anything lower than 10min runs the risk of creating new complaint points due to that, but 10min seems fair enough to me at least.

As far as soloing goes, a soloer has just as much right to the content as a grouper. They are getting far less reward than a grouper anyways, and the lower difficulties were made for a reason. I sincerely doubt that anyone soloing for wins is the main cause of the congestion. Anyone who is going in with the intention to afk for 30min just to clog up the queue though should be found guilty of breaking the TOS by griefing and should be punished accordingly.

[Domille]

As far as soloing goes, a soloer has just as much right to the content as a grouper. They are getting far less reward than a grouper anyways, and the lower difficulties were made for a reason. I sincerely doubt that anyone soloing for wins is the main cause of the congestion.

No, they don't. I don't mind the "it's my 12.95 argument" do whatever you want with your time. But when your being slow is affecting my 12.95. you need to stop.

Do /sea legion. There was NINE damn people soloing earlier. NINE OF THEM. ALL SOLOING AMBUSCADE. THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

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This is DISGUSTING and NEEDS to STOP NOW.

[Stuzey]

I don't think you can be angry at people for going in solo, as mentioned before the event was designed for parties (both full and low man) or solo, trusts were shown in the original pictures. Your complaint is you are on a very populated server and not enough instances exist for everyone to use.

Ambuscade has always been busy for the first weekend on Asura, it usually dies down when the events start (around the second week, but they started early this month).

It is not disgusting in any way, people pay the money and are playing by the rules. If you want to get angry, be angry about the number of zones

[Jakuk]

No, they don't. I don't mind the "it's my 12.95 argument" do whatever you want with your time. But when your being slow is affecting my 12.95. you need to stop.

Do /sea legion. There was NINE damn people soloing earlier. NINE OF THEM. ALL SOLOING AMBUSCADE. THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

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This is DISGUSTING and NEEDS to STOP NOW.

Rubbish is it, they all pay the same fee as everyone else, if they want to solo it is their choice.

[Sirmarki]

Yeh.. Think I'll pass on that one for a little while at least.

Maybe the CP Campaign that started today will somewhat ease it?

Another thing, I think Asura's population has grown lately, due to returning players, and people moving from other servers. The other day the player numbers were touching 2k.

[Diavolo]

Another thing, I think Asura's population has grown lately, due to returning players, and people moving from other servers. The other day the player numbers were touching 2k.

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[Ketaru]

No, they don't. I don't mind the "it's my 12.95 argument" do whatever you want with your time. But when your being slow is affecting my 12.95. you need to stop.

Do /sea legion. There was NINE damn people soloing earlier. NINE OF THEM. ALL SOLOING AMBUSCADE. THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

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This is DISGUSTING and NEEDS to STOP NOW.

To that, I would say that it is on the development team to find a way to streamline the grouping process then. I do put up seek and make a perfunctory shout here and there to join groups. But at the end of the day, I still need my items and intend to go in whether I get an invite or not. Maybe it's time to try and implement some sort of Duty Finder for Ambuscade?

[Mithlas]

Does searching the Legion zone return results of people that are... actually doing Legion though? :x
I farm Legion for drops myself. Crafting mats yo.

[Domille]

The zone for ambuscade and "actual" legion are the same.

If you're in legion farming mats, you're causing ambuscade congestion. Though on Quetz it probably doesn't matter.

[Nyarlko]

The zone for ambuscade and "actual" legion are the same.

If you're in legion farming mats, you're causing ambuscade congestion. Though on Quetz it probably doesn't matter.

Unless they made an unannounced adjustment, actually doing Legion has a lower entry priority than Ambuscade. -_-;; So it's actually the other way around.. Ambuscade causes Legion lockout. It's pretty much pointless to try to get into Legion in the first 1-2 weeks every month since Legion does not use the queue system. I've tried spamming Legion entry for 1-3hrs straight before and not been able to get in. So no... Legion farming is not causing Ambuscade congestion. Though farmers will most likely show up as singles/leaders in /sea.

[Domille]

Priority doesn't matter. Legion soloing takes ambuscade instances. Limited number of instances. Limited number of legions/ambuscades. 9 people aren't suddenly soloing 5 year old legion content.

1 at most 2 are.

[Nyarlko]

I don't think you can be angry at people for going in solo, as mentioned before the event was designed for parties (both full and low man) or solo, trusts were shown in the original pictures. Your complaint is you are on a very populated server and not enough instances exist for everyone to use.

Ambuscade has always been busy for the first weekend on Asura, it usually dies down when the events start (around the second week, but they started early this month).

It is not disgusting in any way, people pay the money and are playing by the rules. If you want to get angry, be angry about the number of zones

I've yet to figure out why the devs have refused to expand the zones used tbh. :/ Or add a rewards-only npc to Selbina or Rabao.. I understand that all of the instanced content in this game have a rather limited number of instances, but there should be SOME way to either increase the number of creatable instances and/or add a secondary Ambuscade zone. Would it really hurt much if they repurposed the Brenner zone for instance? How often does "Abjhalis Isle-Purgonorgo" actually have people in the zone?

[Nyarlko]

Priority doesn't matter. Legion soloing takes ambuscade instances. Limited number of instances. Limited number of legions/ambuscades. 9 people aren't suddenly soloing 5 year old legion content.

1 at most 2 are.

That was part of my point. Don't blame Legion'ers for Ambuscade issues. (There really aren't that many of us after all. XD Plus, we're not getting into Legion unless the Ambuscade queue is empty.)

Ask for increased number of instances, ask for an afk timeout to limit griefing like I suggested earlier, ask for something that can help many w/o harming any.

Complaining about people using the Legion zone to do Legion is like complaining that levelers are slowing down your HTB farming by doing actual mission fights. :/ Players using the zones for their original intended purpose are not a problem in any way.

[Domille]

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[Jakuk]

That was part of my point. Don't blame Legion'ers for Ambuscade issues. (There really aren't that many of us after all. XD Plus, we're not getting into Legion unless the Ambuscade queue is empty.)

Ask for increased number of instances, ask for an afk timeout to limit griefing like I suggested earlier, ask for something that can help many w/o harming any.

Complaining about people using the Legion zone to do Legion is like complaining that levelers are slowing down your HTB farming by doing actual mission fights. :/ Players using the zones for their original intended purpose are not a problem in any way.

Indeed.

One of Ambuscade's biggest issues was making so much limited to 1.

1. One area to enter from should have included Selbina at least.
2. One zone to fight in, they had plenty they could have used, still limited it to one enemy, but randomly teleport you elsewhere. I mean they could have used Aht Urhgan battlefield zones. They're never used.
3. Trading one item at a time to upgrade.

People soloing are NOT the real issue.

[Domille]

People soloing are NOT the real issue.

Theyre not the main complaint, no. But they're ABSOLUTELY making the problem worse.

[Diavolo]

Theyre not the main complaint, no. But they're ABSOLUTELY making the problem worse.

The biggest issue is Ambuscade's appeal, it attracts practically everyone, from the most casual to the most hardcore, and funneling entire servers into one fight every month is poor design, no other way to look at it. Instead of updating older content such as Voidwatch in meaningful ways, effectively dividing the player base across more of the world, we have players repeating Ambuscade countless times each month not only for the exclusive gear, but also for REM upgrade items.

[Aysha]

Is it hard to get groups for Ambuscade?

I've been wanting to get into Ambuscade, but I don't have an endgame linkshell, and I'm nowhere near geared good enough. Every time I see Ambuscade group shouts, they want VD (Very Difficult) and usually Volume One.

I'm a newbie who thinks they should stick with Volume Two (and I've never done Ambuscade before, so that's all I got open to me)..... but very few people shout for Volume Two and they ask for VD the few times I do see V2 shouts.

I want something a bit easier, but I bet nobody is interested in the easier difficulty, and would people take my i-118 wimpy butt into VD? Last time I checked, people are pretty picky about gear and job; I have a 99 WAR with Skirmish gear, but a family member has a THF with Reforged AF+1. Would they take her? Probably not, I'm guessing.

That's why people solo.

Unless, of course, I'm wrong and people will take lesser geared people, but we've both had bad experiences with people being picky, especially with her THF.

[Domille]

Ambuscade volume 1 is *almost* always done with an exact setup (whoever finds it works first ruins it for everyone).

Volume 2 you can take basically literally anything. You should not be in anything less than full 119 even if you started yesterday. Maybe 2 days, to be reasonable.

Any 119 DD with some sushi and uses macros, is good enough for vol2. Anything less than taking 6 people for Vol2 VD is a complete waste of your and literally everyone on your servers time.

Unfortunately, humans as a whole are a pain in the ass. and want BLU ONRY. with RMEA. for blindfolded piss-easy content.

[Aysha]

Unfortunately, humans as a whole are a pain in the ass. and want BLU ONRY. with RMEA. for blindfolded piss-easy content.

This is precisely the point I was trying to make: The community makes its own bed and then must lay in it.

If the community wants fewer people soloing, then maybe they should stop being so picky. It just drives people to avoid groups and to solo whenever/whatever possible and since Very Easy can sometimes be solo'd, people will just solo that instead of joining VD groups that are going "BLU ONRY!".

Want to see fewer soloers? Stop being so picky.

EDIT: BTW, we are full 119 (a couple of my jobs are 118, I think but we both do have enough stuff that we're 119) and we've been so for several months, but have been avoiding Ambuscade and other areas because 1). It's so difficult to find out what we can actually handle with just the two of us, and 2). How picky people are, especially with her being a THF, and 3). Finding forums that are actually populated by people of our server (Slyph) is next to impossible. Can't really find any sort of inlet to talking to other people on our server like one used to be able to do, etc.

[Domille]

It's a community problem, that's the problem. The soloers I'm seeing don't even try to ask to join.

I'm more than happy to take *almost* anyone if I run the group. You have to competent... which isn't hard. Can you hit control 1 and control 2, sometimes alt 1? cause that is the entirety of FFXI skill.

with sushi and 119? Good enough.

Talk to Jeanpaul, he's a good guy and VERY helpful slyph player. http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Sylph/Jeanpaul

[Aysha]

Talk to Jeanpaul, he's a good guy and VERY helpful slyph player. http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Sylph/Jeanpaul

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll look that guy up.

See, we're like... nobodies... and neither of us are really good at being social. And we've returned after years of being away and we don't know anybody, lol. We wouldn't know who to ask, etc. Between my family member being older with slower reaction times, and me having a variable work schedule, an Endgame LS is out of the question.

I wouldn't mind, however, having at least some decent armor that we can have fun in-game which is why I wanted to try Ambuscade to see what pieces we can squeak out. Even if it is incredibly slow progress, lol.

But thanks for the helpful information, will definitely look into it.

[Ketaru]

It's a community problem, that's the problem. The soloers I'm seeing don't even try to ask to join.

I'm more than happy to take *almost* anyone if I run the group. You have to competent... which isn't hard. Can you hit control 1 and control 2, sometimes alt 1? cause that is the entirety of FFXI skill.

with sushi and 119? Good enough.

Talk to Jeanpaul, he's a good guy and VERY helpful slyph player. http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Sylph/Jeanpaul

Then the problem is really that the Gallantry is not enough of an incentive to get people to group. Looks like they're some Empyrean reforging items so:

Building Emps-looking for group
Not Building Emps- not looking for group.

I guess whatever is being soldfor Gallantry is not enough for people to give up the freedom to come and go as they please.

[Aysha]

Well, family member and I solo'd (well, duo'd lol...) our first (and second!) Ambuscade last night.

Our wait time was about 10-20 seconds (we're on Sylph, though) and it was a rather easy fight (unlike that time we tried in November, ugh lol).

I think I can see the appeal behind soloing: We tried Yorcia Weald Skirmish which does yield armor, but that armor is only 113 until you get Vials of Transmelange, but to get those, you gotta do Ra'Kaznar Skirmish (which we've yet to do, but I wanna try it!).

One problem I'm having, is the game absolutely spews 119 gear at you and both me and family member are scratching our heads, going ".... ok so which one(s) are better?"

For example, her THF... she's got Reforged +1 which is 119. We have access to the Iuitl set from Yorcia Weald, and if we were successful in getting Transmelange, we could upgrade it to 119.

And now, there's Ambuscade (using the vouchers) armor, and THAT is 119.

Oh, and she's got Su1 and is heading towards Su2 at a decent pace, so there's those two sets.

We're absolutely confused on which armors we should actually be wearing, which is better? Everything is 119 with very little of any indicator which is "better". It's kinda annoying to pull up websites and compare the armors stat-by-stat trying to envision whether +10 STR is better than +20 Weapon Skill or what-not.

So I think that causes a lot of people to just pile into Ambuscade, because at least Ambuscade Armor seems to be rather easy to get, as long as you're capable of soloing the mob.

[Domille]

While this doesn't really relate to the topic at hand.... yes 119 is absolutely retarded.

At a quick glance someone without experience just does what you do "wtf do I wear". There's no "right" answer. Your situation doesn't have you wearing resienjima gear or ru'ann gear.

You just have to look at the pieces. Ambuscade sets are very good for people in your shoes. *very good*

[Aysha]

That's what I thought, that Ambuscade was probably the best we could hope to get (at least for now, though I doubt Reisenjima/Escha is possible with only 2 people?). It's just that... yanno, 2k Hallmarks would take absolutely forever on 50 per run lol.

Buuuut, I suppose that it doesn't matter what the monthly armor is, if you can just get the vouchers one by one. At least the first few are easy to snatch up. It's just that body one, eeew. lol.

[Domille]

It's just that... yanno, 2k Hallmarks would take absolutely forever on 50 per run lol.


Anything less than taking 6 people for Vol2 VD is a complete waste of your and literally everyone on your servers time.



Anything less than going on VD with 6 is a waste of your time... so seriously, don't do it...

[Aysha]

Anything less than going on VD with 6 is a waste of your time... so seriously, don't do it...

You're assuming we can find a group willing to take a THF, lol.

And again, wait times are <10 seconds on Sylph, so we're not wasting anybody's time lol.

Now if we were on a higher population server, that'd be different..

[Domille]

THF isn't bad for the fight. There are other people on your server. With the exact same mindset as yourself. "oh no one would let us join so we'll just waste weeks soloing".

You will never hit 14500 soloing..... and if by some miracle you do, I'm extremely sad for you

[Aysha]

THF isn't bad for the fight. There are other people on your server. With the exact same mindset as yourself. "oh no one would let us join so we'll just waste weeks soloing".

You will never hit 14500 soloing..... and if by some miracle you do, I'm extremely sad for you

I know we're not going to hit 14.5k. We're not trying for that.

We're rather casual players -- I have a variable hour job (which means my schedule is not the same week-to-week) and my family member has other things to do than to be on the game 24/7. We just want some decent gear, and to have reasonable fun obtaining it.

The Body Voucher takes what, 2,000hm? 2200? If we did an average of 11 Ambuscades per week in any given month, we would get that. Now obviously, we're not going to aim to get the whole set in a single month, though there's always the possibility that the set we want would happen to be that month's featured set and as such, some of the pieces would be free.

For example, we already got the free healer/support boots. Both family member and I dabble with WHM occasionally so we picked them up. They're free; why not?

I imagine the gloves should be easily do-able too. We do a couple ambuscades here, a couple there, we'll pick a piece or two of her THF armor this month, maybe one piece next month, yadda yadda.

We're not in a hurry. Our mission isn't to "Max our character ASAP!"

Our mission is to "Have fun checking off a ginormous checklist of things to do". We're not trying to get done asap, we're just plodding along.

That's not to say we're not going to turn down opportunities; if I see a shout asking for VD Vol2 for a job I actually have on 99 and 119, well ya, I'm gonna see if I can get in on it. But, see, all shouts are for GEO, PLD, WAR, etc. I've never seen one say "Any DD" or even DD at all. People want certain jobs, which brings us back to the point that this is a community-made problem, and the problem is people being too picky when it isn't necessary.

[Domille]

Ok, but see, if you DON'T get the HQ gear now, that means you have to waste MORE time later when you -do- want it, instead of getting it now.

It's simple logic. If you think people don't want you to join, NQ ambuscade gear absolutely won't change that.

[Nyarlko]

Ok, but see, if you DON'T get the HQ gear now, that means you have to waste MORE time later when you -do- want it, instead of getting it now.

It's simple logic. If you think people don't want you to join, NQ ambuscade gear absolutely won't change that.

Just admit that Aysha has a different POV than you do. XD The NQ armor is there for exactly the reasoning that Aysha talks about.. Little gametime available, fewer current gear options, little chance of anyone carrying them thru on higher difficulties. The pricing on the NQ sets is w/in range for a newish player to be able to get solo from lower difficulty V2 fights on purpose. You should probably stop complaining about soloers clogging things up while they are only completing content in a system-acceptable and intended way, and focus your complaints on the supposed afkers who are intentionally griefing large chunks of the population instead.

And while it's true that NQ ambuscade armors are not top-tier, they do tend to be enough for a newish player to be be not-useless for stuff like Escha-Zi'tah/Escha-Ru'aun T1/T2. The NQ sets in particular are intended to be stepping stones to be able to start on endgame progression. Sounds like this is exactly what they are being used for to me. ^^

[Aysha]

Just admit that Aysha has a different POV than you do. XD The NQ armor is there for exactly the reasoning that Aysha talks about.. Little gametime available, fewer current gear options, little chance of anyone carrying them thru on higher difficulties. The pricing on the NQ sets is w/in range for a newish player to be able to get solo from lower difficulty V2 fights on purpose. You should probably stop complaining about soloers clogging things up while they are only completing content in a system-acceptable and intended way, and focus your complaints on the supposed afkers who are intentionally griefing large chunks of the population instead.

And while it's true that NQ ambuscade armors are not top-tier, they do tend to be enough for a newish player to be be not-useless for stuff like Escha-Zi'tah/Escha-Ru'aun T1/T2. The NQ sets in particular are intended to be stepping stones to be able to start on endgame progression. Sounds like this is exactly what they are being used for to me. ^^

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This, and/or these armors are great for people who do not intend to get into Endgame Progression, who just want some decent armor for solo purposes. I have Skirmish+1 (I abused mules' Red Mog Pells to get it LOL), but I would also enjoy getting some Ambuscade Armor too for other jobs for some decent solo armor.

Escha doesn't sound like anything I'm likely to get in anytime soon, so naturally the next tier down would be Ambuscade. Since they are picky about what jobs they'll take, I'll just settle for the NQ set. Good enough for me, for now.

[Nyarlko]

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This, and/or these armors are great for people who do not intend to get into Endgame Progression, who just want some decent armor for solo purposes. I have Skirmish+1 (I abused mules' Red Mog Pells to get it LOL), but I would also enjoy getting some Ambuscade Armor too for other jobs for some decent solo armor.

Escha doesn't sound like anything I'm likely to get in anytime soon, so naturally the next tier down would be Ambuscade. Since they are picky about what jobs they'll take, I'll just settle for the NQ set. Good enough for me, for now.

Most Escha-Zi'tah T1s are actually quite doable in starter gear for smaller groups (2-4 ppl) using tank+healer trusts and ranged jobs to avoid aoe and TP feed issues. I've run sparks geared mages thru before as a non-master BST to provide the sc, and we actually made it thru all of T1 and T2 w/ no deaths other than a one of my own (due to player error ^^;; not difficulty). Try to find one helpful BST or SCH and you should be able to trio your way thru with a bit of practice. They only cost about 6k/pop using fishkabobs from Curio, so losses on learning runs don't make you wince at least. XD