Please consider adding ilvl Aegis and Ochain

[OmnysValefor]

As the title says, please add these shields.

A reasonable amount of shield skill on Aegis along with say Spell-Interruption-Down 30% would be a fantastic piece. Aegis's only shortcoming is getting a spell off when multiple things are hitting you. The standard spell interruption while still staying dt-capped is involves swapping belt, ammo, feet (odyssean), legs (founder's) and both earrings to otherwise suboptimal gear.

As for Ochain, I'd be perfectly happy with just a better blocker. Ilvl could have things like increased block value (DEF), straight normal armor defense, HP.

For most jobs, one or multiple of RMEA are the best weapons in the game but not by the distance that they used to be. Ochain could again become the best blocker and Priwen could and should be competitive while reprisal is up, even if there was also a boost to it's base block rate.

[Nyarlko]

You don't shiny new shields unless BRD's instruments get a polish too :x Devs have gone on record multiple times that they have no intention to upgrade shields/instruments any further, but doesn't hurt to get confirmation on that stance every 6mon or so. Altana knows how BRD can use any help it can get at this point. ;;

I'm all for buffs to both, tho it feels like PLD is already in a pretty good place with the shields already. (Speaking as a non-tank who watches tanks get hit for 0s when I would be getting pulped pretty fast if I were to try taking the same hits, even in 60%+ dt on BST.. and that only works in positive correlation situations.)

[Jakuk]

Devs have gone on record multiple times that they have no intention to upgrade shields

With good reason, an upgrade on already OP items would be ridiculous.

[OmnysValefor]

Aegis is very powerful, though necessary for PLD tanking. Most PLDs want it to block more. I'm okay if it doesn't. I think SIRD on it would be an awesome compromise.

Ochain isn't OP and the JSE shield outshines it in some scenarios. Yes, absolutely, Ochain used to be OP. Maybe 100% blocking outside of a specialized set (I'd be okay with that) is overpowered, but with priwen available and Ochain much easier to obtain, I don't think buffs would be unreasonable.

[Shiyo]

Do you want to pay 100m per to make them have ilvl? They're already absurdly powerful without ilvl, and MANDATORY to play paladin, but I found that ok because they're so easy to obtain and get and you don't need to spend 100m on them like a normal relic/emp.

However if they do this you'll need to ;/ It'd suck HORRIBLY for new players/paladins.

[Diavolo]

I find Ochain to be in the same boat gear-wise as RDM is on the job front, having lost its raison d'etre (re: block rate) and before anyone even tries, let's be clear that, while nice, the MP return was icing on the cake, not its primary appeal. If it takes 10,000 boulders/beitetsu/pluton to upgrade them then so be it, but like BRD instruments they deserve some sort of ilvl upgrade.

[OmnysValefor]

I would absolutely be willing to pay 100m to upgrade Aegis.

Ochain... would cots me about 250m. It would hurt but I'd do it. Yeah, FFXIAH says I have a 99 Ochain but it's wrong.

New paladins already need to make an Aegis. Ochain 90 is still an alright shield, and priwen does exist. I don't think this would put a new burden on anyone.

[Urat]

Aegis and ochain are already perfectly reasonable at their current powerlevel compared to the work they take to farm.

You can achieve 100% interruption rate down without gimping yourself while casting.

The loss of a few hundred HP from swapping off HP+ gear is just a necessary evil of wanting to achieve max interrupt rate down.

You will lose a total of 270 HP doing these swaps, and by swapping other pieces of gear correctly though you can maintain that 270 HP still and still have the 50 PDT/MDT etc etc.

I would like to see something more worthwhile added to 99+ Ochain, since it takes about twice as much effort as a 99 aegis. Preferably I'd like to see a Shield Mastery bonus added onto Ochain at lv 99.

[Kalimairo]

Aegis and ochain are already perfectly reasonable at their current powerlevel compared to the work they take to farm.

You can achieve 100% interruption rate down without gimping yourself while casting.

The loss of a few hundred HP from swapping off HP+ gear is just a necessary evil of wanting to achieve max interrupt rate down.

You will lose a total of 270 HP doing these swaps, and by swapping other pieces of gear correctly though you can maintain that 270 HP still and still have the 50 PDT/MDT etc etc.

I would like to see something more worthwhile added to 99+ Ochain, since it takes about twice as much effort as a 99 aegis. Preferably I'd like to see a Shield Mastery bonus added onto Ochain at lv 99.

i lose so much hp i am max 3470 hp as a pld with spell intteruption i go down to 3021, they need to update Shields and instruments add Stats Buff to each song by 2 of all stats maybe? and add more defence on normal shields id be down for that, no need to give it shield skill tbh if they think its op.

[Lockhart]

Do you want to pay 100m per to make them have ilvl? They're already absurdly powerful without ilvl, and MANDATORY to play paladin, but I found that ok because they're so easy to obtain and get and you don't need to spend 100m on them like a normal relic/emp.

However if they do this you'll need to ;/ It'd suck HORRIBLY for new players/paladins.

You don't need to spend any gil on anything. You can farm it, or you can farm other things to sell and exchange for the items required. This is what gives the game purpose. Saying they should not upgrade something based on the fact it would be expensive to just buy it all outright does not seem like a good argument. You do not need to be geared to the max to participate in events, you may not be geared to participate in VD mode, D, or N, but that is why they placed in VE and E for many events. Just because it would take a new player a large amount of effort to catch up to completely endgame is also a terrible argument.

[Gwydion]

Matsui said in a recent interview that upgrading Aegis and Ochain to i-level would cause a loss in magic evasion (which is the theme of most I-Level content). I would like updated Aegis/Ochain, but not if they're inherently weaker than their 99 counterparts in some way. Anyway, Matsui said it was "a future task for the battle team" and I hope they come up with something soon. (same for Beastmaster too).

[Kalimairo]

you dont have to add EVASION OR MAGIC EVASION u just increase Defence and vit for example for ochain and aegis Maybe success block +3? its simple as that or just a 24 Shield skill and a higher Defence Value,. at this point mage Shields has more Defence,

[Gwydion]

you dont have to add EVASION OR MAGIC EVASION u just increase Defence and vit for example for ochain and aegis Maybe success block +3? its simple as that or just a 24 Shield skill and a higher Defence Value,. at this point mage Shields has more Defence,

I agree, but you misunderstand. A fundamental difference between 1-99 shields and I-level is how 119 shields have innate magic evasion by way of shield skill

[Worlace]

Bumping this thread. Would be lovely if in the upcoming job updates that they added +shield skill. All of the main weapons have been getting +skill on them in the iLevel era, but not any of the main Paladin shields. As a result the block rate for Paladin has declined dramatically.

[Gwydion]

It's been 11 months since Matsui said an i-level Aegis/Ochain "will be a future task for the battle team". Given the stats of this Diamond Aspis from Nomad Bonanza, I'm really worried that Aegis/Ochain will be made inferior to their 99 predecessors:

Diamond Aspis
https://i.imgur.com/4Xhq5Kx.png
DEF:135 VIT+30
Accuracy+40 Magic Accuracy+40
"Magic Atk. Bonus"+30
Evasion+30 Magic Evasion+30
Shield skill +129
Extends the duration of standard abilities used on self by +25%
Increases Skillchain duration
LV. 99~ WAR WHM RDM THF PLD BST

[zataz]

I don't know what you all are going on about honestly 100m is chump change I've been slowly afterglowing my ochain it's what 1.2 billion if bought minimum. Ya farming and making gill is not ultra fast but I can't buy fast anyway or else I raise the price. Sorry for the rant lol