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Shiyo

11-23-2016, 02:11 AM

Where did they go?

Please keep vouchers for every months previous gear in ambu. There's no reason for gear to go away forever - it's never been a thing in FFXI before and it should not become a thing. Let us obtain gear regardless of when we decided to play the game. We should not have to log on and play during x months or forever miss out on gear.

This is supposed to be THE entry gear for new and returning players. It should be obtainable at anytime, otherwise it's another hurdle that new/returning players have to get over just because they didn't play during x months. That's silly.

There's also some BIS pieces, and they're just gone forever? That also isn't fun for veterans, either.

Urmom

11-23-2016, 02:41 AM

Shiyo

11-23-2016, 03:19 AM

Gear rewards in a category are cycled each month. One set makes way for the next. With Gallantries purpose being to give you an extra month. This is the norm whether they will change it is another question
It's really not fun or fair to new/returning players to be completely out of luck on gear just because they didn't play for x month.
Also the vouchers existed for every month since this one, didn't they? Why were they removed this month? That's my question.

Why remove something GOOD?

Urmom

11-23-2016, 05:41 AM

It's really not fun or fair to new/returning players to be completely out of luck on gear just because they didn't play for x month.
Also the vouchers existed for every month since this one, didn't they? Why were they removed this month? That's my question.

Why remove something GOOD?

I suppose though it's somewhat designed to reward people who stay playing/keep us spamming each month.

And nope they only existed that one month. First month there was gallantry at all. Then each month it contained the set that was introduced the previous month when people were wondering what would happen if they just couldn't get full points one month. Then when they finished a set of sets for each job and started with a new set of sets with flamma instead of just doing the last one they made a voucher for just that month. Completely new and one time.

And they removed it because they do that every month. Just like next month Tali'ah will be on gallantry and Flamma will be gone. And most likely when they finish up these sets there will be a voucher for them. They stated from the get go rewards would rotate as monsters would but invented gallantry to give us a method in case we miss a month. My guess that combined with points not carrying over was because they didn't want people to just spam a bunch one month and ignore it the others and want us to actually explore all the different weird experimental mechanics they are putting in. I don't remember where but I think they did mention they'd eventually go back thru sets

Nyarlko

11-23-2016, 05:01 PM

Seems to be pretty set to be a yearly/annual cycle at this point. Although, I think the current official last word boiled down to "We'll decide in March 2017."

Shiyo

11-24-2016, 12:50 AM

No matter what it is, it's a bad decision for the game as a whole and needs to stop.
Temp gear does not belong in a monthly sub MMO.
I should not be penalized for not playing the game every month of the year.
I should not be greatly encouraged to do X content and spam the crap out of for an entire month(thus burn myself out) just to get a piece of gear that will go away for a year or perhaps forever. I should be able to play whenever I want to, and be able to obtain the gear at my own pace.

Bring back the vouchers so anyone can get the gear.

Vae

11-24-2016, 01:01 AM

I've got to agree, temporary gear is ridiculous.

Vouchers should always be the gallantry item. It covers last month AND previous sets. But never talk logic in ffxi.

Urmom

11-24-2016, 03:49 AM

Just to point out you aren't penalized for not doing it every month. You are penalized for skipping 2 months in a row.

detlef

11-24-2016, 04:10 AM

Gallantry is a lot harder to accumulate than Hallmarks so the penalty for missing a month is very severe. I support vouchers being available every month.

Shiyo

11-25-2016, 12:33 AM

So am I correct in Jhakri body being the ONLY 3 refresh body piece in the game for jobs not summoner?
This piece of gear is no longer obtainable, for who knows how long. That's not cool.

This is the first time in FFXI history that items become "unobtainable" after a certain point in time. Any other time, you could simply go farm the item, but you LITERALLY CANNOT DO THAT NOW.

Bring back vouchers for ambu. There's absolutely no reason that gear should just go away for extended periods of time/forever, especially if it's gear with unique stats(refresh 3) you cannot get anywhere else in the entire game.

OmnysValefor

11-25-2016, 01:22 AM

Augmented witching robe, off the top of my head. Amalric HQ (lol) I think. Both are difficult to obtain.

I agree though. While some is very good/best for certain features, Ambu is the new entry tier. Making it obtainable periodically is silly.

A friend came back during Sulevia's and I dragged him through 15k points so his PLD had something, while he got better, and his DRK had fair gear.

Had he come back two months later: sorry for your luck (really mine, since I was carrying him).

Yeah, it got replaced but that's the point of most ambu gear, and some of it IS best in slot.

Shiyo

11-27-2016, 08:46 AM

I can't easily gear up my paladin in "entry level gear" because it's no longer available from ambu.

I can't easily gear my COR in entry level gear because it's no longer available from ambu.

I can't easily gear my RDM in entry level nuke gear because it's no longer available from ambu.

This is absurd. I should not be penalized for not playing every month ambuscade has been out and spamming it 50+ times per month.

This months current set is absolutely useless for a lot of player as well, as it's ACC PET GEAR and only for 3 jobs, two of them being incredibly underplayed.

Diavolo

11-27-2016, 09:02 AM

I can't easily gear up my paladin in "entry level gear" because it's no longer available from ambu.

I can't easily gear my COR in entry level gear because it's no longer available from ambu.

I can't easily gear my RDM in entry level nuke gear because it's no longer available from ambu.

This is absurd. I should not be penalized for not playing every month ambuscade has been out and spamming it 50+ times per month.

I'm of the opinion that those vouchers should be permanent, but you don't need Ambuscade gear on your way up the gear ladder. We managed just fine before that content was introduced.

Shiyo

11-27-2016, 09:17 AM

I'm of the opinion that those vouchers should be permanent, but you don't need Ambuscade gear on your way up the gear ladder. We managed just fine before that content was introduced.

Oh, I know you don't! I'm just saying it's meant to be the starter gear but it's not because it rotates.

The design behind it contradicts itself, basically.

Diavolo

11-27-2016, 01:37 PM

Oh, I know you don't! I'm just saying it's meant to be the starter gear but it's not because it rotates.

The design behind it contradicts itself, basically.

Yeah, it really does, on multiple levels.

OmnysValefor

11-28-2016, 01:05 AM

I'm of the opinion that those vouchers should be permanent, but you don't need Ambuscade gear on your way up the gear ladder. We managed just fine before that content was introduced.

In fairness, it's tremendously easier to make that ascent when plenty oc people are always looking for it.

Now a newbie, even in rawhide (which is fine cor apex, t1 nm's without acc bubble roll or songs) competes with others in significantly better offensive gear.

Olor

11-28-2016, 02:45 AM

how does a newbie even get rawhide without folks carrying them? Even with some ambuscade gear, a lot of [a] skirmish gear, and trust buff I can't solo most T1 escha.

Shiyo

11-28-2016, 04:57 AM

T1 escha mobs only take like 900 accuracy I'm pretty sure, I had no problems hitting them with 920ish. However, you're going to need ambuscade gear to reach that accuracy because most 119 af+1(the most accessible starter gear) has zero accuracy/magic accuracy.

I duo'd all my T1 gear but I have no idea if most job combos can actually do that, especially not in AF+1 reforge.

Ambuscade normal can be duod in full AF, escha zitah t1's have a much steeper gear requirement and I'm not exactly sure if most jobs can duo them half ambu half af+1 reforge gear - let alone full af+1.

You basically need to be carried to full escha t1 gear if you can't do ambuscade, which is honestly awful design and not fun(imo). Being able to contribute is fun, coming as a support/mage while someone(or people) carry you through gear doesn't feel like you earned it.

Ambuscade sets need to be available at all times in order to ensure a proper well designed new player progression path.

Diavolo

11-28-2016, 04:58 AM

how does a newbie even get rawhide without folks carrying them? Even with some ambuscade gear, a lot of [a] skirmish gear, and trust buff I can't solo most T1 escha.

A newbie could carry their weight in those T1 fights with a little time invested in getting some quests/missions and XP/CPing done beforehand. I would be disappointed if one could successfully clear that content solo.

I've probably said this before, but feel free to send me a /tell in game if you ever want a hand with those NMs, I'll gladly knock them out for anyone that needs a little help and no, I won't charge for it either, something I feel needs to be stated these days as this server is "merc" heaven/hell (depending on your point of view, of course).

Shiyo

11-28-2016, 05:03 AM

Urmom

11-29-2016, 02:48 AM

how does a newbie even get rawhide without folks carrying them? Even with some ambuscade gear, a lot of [a] skirmish gear, and trust buff I can't solo most T1 escha.

Are you missing a lot of trusts or something? Cause T1 zitah are ridiculously easy. Like my shantotto was doing 15k mb on them last time I was doing clears. Have you tried bst? Even if your fairly new returning a 119 jug with skirmish/old content gear is still pretty strong on easy stuff like that

Olor

11-29-2016, 12:15 PM

Olor

11-29-2016, 12:17 PM

Are you missing a lot of trusts or something? Cause T1 zitah are ridiculously easy. Like my shantotto was doing 15k mb on them last time I was doing clears. Have you tried bst? Even if your fairly new returning a 119 jug with skirmish/old content gear is still pretty strong on easy stuff like that

I haven't really tried bst but I don't really enjoy playing it so much anymore and I replaced a lot of my bst augments on my light DD skirmish gear to stuff better for thf/blu since I played them more. My bst gear is so-so at best at the moment. But it is hard to put a lot into a job that I feel constantly annoyed and disappointed in when I play it.

Nyarlko

11-29-2016, 12:33 PM

A newbie could carry their weight in those T1 fights with a little time invested in getting some quests/missions and XP/CPing done beforehand. I would be disappointed if one could successfully clear that content solo.

I've probably said this before, but feel free to send me a /tell in game if you ever want a hand with those NMs, I'll gladly knock them out for anyone that needs a little help and no, I won't charge for it either, something I feel needs to be stated these days as this server is "merc" heaven/hell (depending on your point of view, of course).

I've done the same many times as well for many newbies/returnees, and never charged for it.
But I think I should also note that I stomped on E-Z T2s as non-Job-Master BST w/ 3x sparks geared BLM (I was basically there to give them a SC to MB off of,) and I've seen myself that it's also possible for a group of good players in sparks to down T1s if they have the game and communication skills to pull it off. The point of this is that you don't need to be geared for 135+ in order to take them down. The content was designed with group play in mind, not soloing. It's not a binary choice between "being carried" OR "solo Ambuscade". There is the option of playing the game with others after all. >.>;;

The merc heavy environment we're seeing now is probably less due to greed of players, and more to do w/ cost of pops w/o guaranteed drops, at least in the beginning.. It was a way to shift the cost from the ones who wanted a drop but didn't want to deal with possible cost incurred by bad luck to those who were willing to take on that risk in the hopes that they beat the odds and got the drop earlier than the full cost to cover the drop rate average in the hopes that they would have a profit leftover in the end. More recently tho, a lot of the merc offers are for dirt-cheap pops with a high price per drop.
-_-;; Price of laziness I guess..

How are you gonna CP in 800 accuracy gear? lol

The games new player progression path LITERALLY tells you to do ambuscade(ROE intermediate tutorial) and it's very, very, very clearly designed that it's the final step of gear before you do escha. However, unless you're playing a job that benefits from that months sets, you're pretty screwed.

It's awful.

edit:
Back in the day we asked people for help, and they helped us for free. Then sometimes people would ask us for help, and we'd help them for free too.

I remember rank10 level 75 JP's carrying me through shadow lord fight back in 2004.

I remember those days too. ^^ I actually miss the awkward but friendly communication between NA/JP that I normally experienced. (Probably helped that I have a basic grasp of the language, so could at least talk in romaji tho tbh.)

You should be able to reach pretty close ~900acc in sparks w/ non-sublime sushi IIRC. That's enough to grind in E-Z for your first 100JP. Then you can buy one of those Su2 weapons from an NPC for only 100k. Being useful for GF/DI might require you to put in some time doing missions and the like in order to gather a few vorseals, but you really should be knocking all of those out before you try to enter endgame anyway. :/

Prep work = win. Any job 117+ should have absolutely no problems clearing out any pre-SoA missions, and with a quickness, so there really aren't too many viable excuses for not getting them done. Seems like most of the newer content requires completing the old, so knock that stuff out in the beginning and never worry about it again. You need to do most of 'em anyway for escha/reisen access, so you might as well finish them while you are at it (and pick up a bunch of CP+ bonuses along the way for doing so.)

I help others for free very frequently. Only takes an hour to clear out E-Z T1s after all. All I hope to get out of helping is the warmfuzzy feeling of doing my good deed for the day and maybe encouraging someone else to pass it forward and help someone else out.
But, I'm not going to farm for others for free... And gear farming seems to be what the majority of merc shouts are offering these days since a lot of the pops used are actually quite cheap.

As far as Ambuscade vouchers go, I really wouldn't be too surprised if they give us a new way to get them once the dev cycle restarts next spring. I honestly expect Ambuscade development to end after it has done it's 12 month cycle, then just restart and go on a permanent loop. Even if they don't give easy access to vouchers, there will be more chances to get the same gear, you just might have to wait 6/12 months for it to roll back around.

Also, it is not punishment to have time-limited events/rewards. It is rewarding their current paying customers. If you are not paying, then why would you get access to a monthly product/service? Would you expect to be able to get Starlight Festival items in June? Probably not. Then why should you be able to get December's Ambuscade set outside of that month? ^^;; I am not saying that I like the system, but it's far from being bad design. It just means you have to pay for the game if you want the gear.

Urmom

11-29-2016, 01:04 PM

I haven't really tried bst but I don't really enjoy playing it so much anymore and I replaced a lot of my bst augments on my light DD skirmish gear to stuff better for thf/blu since I played them more. My bst gear is so-so at best at the moment. But it is hard to put a lot into a job that I feel constantly annoyed and disappointed in when I play it.

If those were good augments ouch. Would've tried getting another taeon set. Can kind of understand that though. I only really bring out bst when I want to power thru some stuff using aoes and/or unleash. But part of that is having pup which lets me still use the same pet auged gear and is amazingly sturdy with okish dmg. But bst still pretty strong just a bit more dangerous (unless you want to play the will the move go off game with running in and out)... though not anymore so than thf

Shiyo

12-01-2016, 06:15 AM

Flamma +1 is samurai's BIS helm.
This item is going to go away for a long time(perhaps forever) after this month. That means if you didn't play during these last 2 months, you're always going to be weaker than a samurai who did.

This is the first time in this entire games history that items simply CANNOT be obtained ever again. Please bring vouchers back.

Urmom

12-01-2016, 06:53 AM

They said they'd cycle thru again so it's not a forever thing. Vouchers wont fix flamma since it wasn't on the voucher but chances are they made a V2 voucher for the new group of sets. So you need up with a 2 months + an extra chance at the end/beginning of groups

Shiyo

12-01-2016, 07:15 AM

Well, they should keep the gear on the NPC forever then.
Also, lower the costs of obtaining stuff with gallantry, because if you miss the month the sets are up for it's a pretty ungodly grind to get full HQ.

Also, it might as well be gone forever. In a years time there will probably be better items, which is silly because it means for x amount of months you just had a worse item and could never obtain it because temp gear in my MMO.

Temp gear needs to never be a thing in this game.

Diavolo

12-01-2016, 10:05 AM

In a years time there will probably be better items

This is the reason I don't think you should sweat it too much. Yes, it's poor design at worst and questionable at best, but our gear is getting replaced faster than ever. That stuff you missed out on probably won't be best for all that long.

Catmato

12-01-2016, 11:00 AM

it's a pretty ungodly grind to get full HQ.

Then be happy with NQ. HQ isn't for everyone.

Shiyo

12-01-2016, 11:43 AM

Then be happy with NQ. HQ isn't for everyone.

It's not an ungodly grind if you played during the month the gear was new.

So what you meant is "HQ gear is for people who played during the month x gear was new", which was my entire post.

So sorry, no. Ambuscade system needs to be re-evaluated 3 months ago.

Catmato

12-01-2016, 12:29 PM

So what you meant is "HQ gear is for people who played during the month x gear was new", which was my entire post.

No, that's not what I mean.

It's not an ungodly grind if you played during the month the gear was new

Yes, it is.

So sorry, no. Ambuscade system needs to be re-evaluated 3 months ago.

I'm not arguing against that.

Vae

12-01-2016, 12:42 PM

Ok, now, wait.

Last months ambuscade was incredibly easy, it wasn't grindy at all. just to get that out of the way. If you missed last month, you got screwed. 100%

2ndly, you get half the gallantry(or less!) as you get hallmarks. and the gallantry items don't have a total. So the grind is a larger "penalty" for missing "last month" that's really stupid. On top of the fact you can't get a previous set. That's incredibly stupid.

The ONLY reason vouchers aren't available every month, is cash grab.

You people need to start complaining more when square is CLEARLY reaching into your pockets. The fact that people can't get certain trusts 100% of the time is a huge slap in the face. Now gear too? How long until you realize what they're doing.

Are you all ready to go p2w, cause this is how it starts.

Shiyo

12-01-2016, 01:32 PM

Agreed, Vae.

I made this thread because I was so confused there wasn't one about this gigantic horribly designed system that's supposed to make you feel greatly encouraged(forced) to log on and play the game every single month or you'll lose out on it forever. Between this, login campaigns and limited time trusts it's clearly obvious they're trying to copy f2p games (failed) system of "getting people to play the game/login".

You want to know what makes me not want to log in and play? When the game feels like a chore -which is exactly what TEMPORARY content with LIMITED rewards that I >>HAVE<< to spam every month or I can't ever get that gear again.

Fix the anti-player friendly reward system, please, square enix. I'm begging you. Your intentions behind it are very clear - you want to get people to log in and play, however, the actual design around it is causing the exact OPPOSITE of what you want it to do.

It will drive people away, if it hasn't already. Fix this awful system before it's too late.

Olor

12-02-2016, 03:03 AM

I don't mind the trusts, they return them frequently enough that I've never been without one I missed for very long.

Ambu is an issue. And they should add a way to let us carry some points over because right now it is demotivating. I don't want to spend the whole month doing nothing but ambuscade.

Urmom

12-02-2016, 03:05 AM

I'd say the effects are more mixed than you think. There are definitely those that only really do much during campaigns they like or right after an update etc or just grind out a bunch a few months later after it's easier. And there was definitely some wondered what the point of logging each day was when they saw others leave for long periods to come back and catch up real quick. Se wanted to encourage those people to log in and for some it worked.

It's a little more onerous with ambuscade because unless you can get a group to do higher lvls of intense it's going to take around 50 runs with running back to get KI off of mobs people will steal off of you. But that's more an issue with the grind itself and the bar/annoying mechanics they set for intense and the way it is often designed to not be low manned

But rejoice SE has heard the crying and is thinking about it

Olor

12-02-2016, 03:06 AM

But rejoice SE has heard the crying and is thinking about it

Really? I didn't see that... where is it?

Also, I am fine with there being advantages for being regularly subbed. Like I don't mind trusts etc because they rotate enough that it's not like you are not going to get them EVER without logging in every month...

I think the main advantage to logging in every month should be login campaigns. I know they definitely get me to sub where I otherwise wouldn't.

But Ambu literally makes me not want to play the game. Like I just couldn't even bear to do November's even though I have 99 BST 99 PUP and 99 SMN (the latter two which really could use some more gear)... because it is such a grind. It makes me hate the game. So I just stop logging in.

Urmom

12-02-2016, 03:09 AM

Really? I didn't see that... where is it?

jp dev post from like last night I Think

Urmom

12-02-2016, 03:19 AM

But Ambu literally makes me not want to play the game. Like I just couldn't even bear to do November's even though I have 99 BST 99 PUP and 99 SMN (the latter two which really could use some more gear)... because it is such a grind. It makes me hate the game. So I just stop logging in.

Yeah that's where I see the problem/difference is. The grind. And the highly varying nature of it and well how it's often incredibly geared against low man intense is (which shouldn't be necessary with gallantry) . Like last month oh boy was a lot more friendly. Took a couple of days to figure out intense but once I did triboxing it on VD so ended up being like 10 runs plus the fooling around I did to learn to get full gear... so heck I went and kept farming till I had like 100k total hallmarks. Meanwhile I don't think there was a single other month I've been able to tribox an intense even on D. And some are kind of hard on normal so I'm forced to do normal or regular on VD which ends up being like 4x the grind for exactly the same rewards

And then there is the mechanics which take time to figure out on their own and often lead to a flavor of the month for jobs which have to be done before we can really start the grind that we only have a month to do <.<. While this month also having that rare cp campaign we want to do...

Camate

12-02-2016, 03:47 AM

We'll be bringing the gear vouchers back soon as a permanent reward option! We're hoping to add this in the version update to follow the December version update.

Olor

12-02-2016, 04:26 AM

Yeah that's where I see the problem/difference is. The grind. And the highly varying nature of it and well how it's often incredibly geared against low man intense is (which shouldn't be necessary with gallantry) . Like last month oh boy was a lot more friendly. Took a couple of days to figure out intense but once I did triboxing it on VD so ended up being like 10 runs plus the fooling around I did to learn to get full gear... so heck I went and kept farming till I had like 100k total hallmarks. Meanwhile I don't think there was a single other month I've been able to tribox an intense even on D. And some are kind of hard on normal so I'm forced to do normal or regular on VD which ends up being like 4x the grind for exactly the same rewards

And then there is the mechanics which take time to figure out on their own and often lead to a flavor of the month for jobs which have to be done before we can really start the grind that we only have a month to do <.<. While this month also having that rare cp campaign we want to do...

Yeah I could nearly (though not quite) solo intense on N last month. If I had tried different jobs/strats/trusts I actually might have been able to do it. But, knowing I am going to have to grind the whole month pretty much nonstop to only get NQ gear that is worse than almost everything I already have... really kills it for me. The HQ is usually nice but the grind is just stupid, especially for someone who isn't geared enough to do VD runs with other players.

I wouldn't mind the grind as much if I could do it at my own pace - it's the having to do it all in one month that kills me. And worse, it doesn't even make sense in terms of a "get people to keep subbed" strategy. I'd be more likely to keep subbed if I could work for the gear I wanted at my own pace.

Heck I'd be okay with having to do TWICE as many runs and get TWICE as many points if I could do it at my pace. I'm not asking for it to be made easier - just to be made less frantic.

Vae

12-02-2016, 04:27 AM

We'll be bringing the gear vouchers back soon as a permanent reward option! We're hoping to add this in the version update to follow the December version update.

I would like this etc, but fixing a mistake that should've never happened in the first place isn't something I reward.

Stop setting things up to see if you can get away with it, and just do it right the first time.

Shiyo

12-02-2016, 04:33 AM

We'll be bringing the gear vouchers back soon as a permanent reward option! We're hoping to add this in the version update to follow the December version update.
Yay!!
Thanks so much for the response.

Nyarlko

12-02-2016, 11:20 PM

We'll be bringing the gear vouchers back soon as a permanent reward option! We're hoping to add this in the version update to follow the December version update.

Wow, that's a lot sooner than I predicted O.o;; Guess even know-it-alls can get the details wrong occasionally XD

Now, how about adding a reward-only npc to Selbina so we can deal w/ augs w/o the horrible lagfest that Mhaura has become? >.>

Obysuca

12-03-2016, 12:13 AM

We'll be bringing the gear vouchers back soon as a permanent reward option! We're hoping to add this in the version update to follow the December version update.

I know it most likely won't be, but I kind of hope they're from hallmarks instead of gallantry. Only for the reason that on a small server, depending on the mobs in ambuscade or the campaigns going on, you might never get a pt to actually get gallantry.
Or at the very least, up the gallantry for being in a pt and put the current amount towards solo. It'd still be a grind, but doable if ambuscade is dead on your server.
I get why you can only get gallantry in a pt, since solo defeats the purpose of a mmo, but the population isn't what it once was and if you don't want to move to Asura, then you're kinda stuck soloing.

Shiyo

12-03-2016, 04:24 AM

Wow, that's a lot sooner than I predicted O.o;; Guess even know-it-alls can get the details wrong occasionally XD

Now, how about adding a reward-only npc to Selbina so we can deal w/ augs w/o the horrible lagfest that Mhaura has become? >.>

No lag in Mhaura on servers that aren't asura :)

Shiyo

12-03-2016, 04:26 AM

I get why you can only get gallantry in a pt, since solo defeats the purpose of a mmo, but the population isn't what it once was and if you don't want to move to Asura, then you're kinda stuck soloing.
Valefor is one of the least populated servers and I have no problem finding people for ambuscade.
I agree that the vouchers need a GREATLY reduced voucher gallantry cost, vouchers need to be "Rewards for reaching x amount of gallantry" or you need to get massively more gallantry per run.

It's too much of a grind for gear on months it isn't that set, which is stupid. You should not be punished for not playing/grinding 1 form of content for a month, ffs.

Games shouldn't be chores, ambu is making FFXI a chore. Chores = not fun. Don't make the same mistakes over MMO's have been making for the past decade, please.

Urmom

12-03-2016, 05:08 AM

No lag in Mhaura on servers that aren't asura :)

Yeah even last month when a lot more people were doing it for gil items still no real lag. Think most I saw was around 100ish in one

Diavolo

12-03-2016, 05:14 AM

No lag in Mhaura on servers that aren't asura :)

I play on Asura and an empty Whitegate is still laggier than Mhaura the day of an update. Gotta love that PS2 engine. :x

Rifaran

12-08-2016, 12:34 PM

yes I agree it should always have been there, it did make me NOT want to do ambuscade, and it's a good thing they are making it permanent

zataz

12-12-2016, 03:49 AM

No matter what it is, it's a bad decision for the game as a whole and needs to stop.
Temp gear does not belong in a monthly sub MMO.
I should not be penalized for not playing the game every month of the year.
I should not be greatly encouraged to do X content and spam the crap out of for an entire month(thus burn myself out) just to get a piece of gear that will go away for a year or perhaps forever. I should be able to play whenever I want to, and be able to obtain the gear at my own pace.
Bring back the vouchers so anyone can get the gear.

stop depending on the welfare gear. they basically are handing out and go get some escha hq and res gear =P then it wont matter

Teraniku

12-21-2016, 03:14 AM

stop depending on the welfare gear. they basically are handing out and go get some escha hq and res gear =P then it wont matter

Some people need the Welfare gear to be able to survive long enough to get Escha and Reseinjima gear lol

Shiyo

12-21-2016, 03:32 AM

Too much of the gear is BIS for many, many things this month. I feel sorry for anyone who isn't playing during this month

PristineChicken

12-21-2016, 12:08 PM

Too much of the gear is BIS for many, many things this month. I feel sorry for anyone who isn't playing during this month

I don't think you know what BiS means.

Vae

12-21-2016, 03:20 PM

At least one piece from every set is BiS for something. So, she's not far off.

This months set, is so-so, it DOES have quite a few BiS pieces. Not that they're really great reasons, but highest MACC on the jobs listed.

Reasonably certain it's 5/5 best in slot for status bolts, not that I care enough to verify though.

BBWallace

12-21-2016, 08:06 PM

People still use status bolts?

Shiyo

12-21-2016, 09:57 PM

4/5 for QD, 4/5 for landing ninjitsu. Probably other uses too, 27% crit is pretty nice.

MilkMansKid

02-11-2017, 08:51 AM

When are we going to see the newer sets added to the vouchers or new vouchers being released. There are quite a few sets out now that can't be gotten with the current vouchers.

Jakuk

02-11-2017, 09:37 AM

Most likely in the new Voucher next month.

Sicycre

02-15-2017, 03:49 AM

When are we going to see the newer sets added to the vouchers or new vouchers being released. There are quite a few sets out now that can't be gotten with the current vouchers.

Hi there!

For Ambuscade, instead of using existing vouchers, we're planning to add new vouchers soon which can only be exchanged for the newer items.

Thanks for your inquiry!

Domille

02-15-2017, 06:57 AM

Seriously, what is the point in doing that.

Just put ALL the items on the same tickets. STOP MAKING EVERYTHING MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT NEEDS TO BE!

Nyarlko

02-15-2017, 12:21 PM

It makes sense that each cycle is on their own ticket. Each cycle is connected both thematically and mechanically, so it makes sense they would be grouped together. Also.. can you imagine trying to cram all that text into a single box? XD There are more things against shoving everything onto a single ticket than for doing so, so why would you expect them to?

Domille

02-15-2017, 12:38 PM

it doesnt need text. "all ambuscade +1 "

problem solved.

Urmom

02-25-2017, 02:04 AM

Seriously, what is the point in doing that.

Just put ALL the items on the same tickets. STOP MAKING EVERYTHING MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT NEEDS TO BE!

Because you'd have to reprogram the vouchers/trade in npcs each time you add a new set....

Domille

02-25-2017, 03:57 AM

Because you'd have to reprogram the vouchers/trade in npcs each time you add a new set....

And you have to CREATE A NEW ITEM EVERY TIME INSTEAD.

What makes more sense. Write one new line of code or create a whole new item.

Their way, you have to wait 5 months to get the first 5/5 if you missed it from the new set. My way there is no wait. And no need to complain.

Dale

03-07-2017, 07:32 AM