Can you make haste work with accession now?

[Cabalabob]

I believe the original reason they didn't make haste accessionable was because it would effect SMN (whose only use at the time was garuda's hastega).

But SMN has since then gotten hastega 2 and rdm has gotten haste 2. Phalanx and refresh are accessionable while phalanx 2 and refresh 2 are not, now with the existence of haste 2 can we get the same treatment for haste?

And maybe reraise as well? At least reraise 1 but not 2 and 3?

[Zuidar]

I believe the original reason they didn't make haste accessionable was because it would effect SMN (whose only use at the time was garuda's hastega).


I 2nd this. Last year they mentioned about looking into this and haven't heard anything since.

Any follow-ups regarding to this Dev Team?

[Urmom]

It wasn't just smn. They didn't want cross pt or even out of alliance hastegas

[Vae]

Just to add to this argument, and stir the pot.

BLU can Diffuse Haste II AND Mighty Guard.

Accession haste I is so outdated, it wouldn't even have much use at this point.

[Shiyo]

RDM should be able to accession haste2/refresh3/etc as well.

[Tesahade]

RDM should be able to accession haste2/refresh3/etc as well.

This will never happen(and it should never happen) the JA is for SCH not RDM. The age old definition of spells that could be accessioned was if SCH had access to the spell(wether the spell was from a /rdm /blm /etc. or from sch it's self) it could be used with accession. This should be maintained with any expansion to the spells that can be used with accession.

[Jakuk]

This will never happen(and it should never happen) the JA is for SCH not RDM. The age old definition of spells that could be accessioned was if SCH had access to the spell(wether the spell was from a /rdm /blm /etc. or from sch it's self) it could be used with accession. This should be maintained with any expansion to the spells that can be used with accession.

And that is plain wrong.

[Shiyo]

This will never happen(and it should never happen) the JA is for SCH not RDM. The age old definition of spells that could be accessioned was if SCH had access to the spell(wether the spell was from a /rdm /blm /etc. or from sch it's self) it could be used with accession. This should be maintained with any expansion to the spells that can be used with accession.
Well then RDM will forever be subpar and useless because "my sch needs to be special".

Even if RDM was good, waiting for them to cast haste2 on every single party member after popping a NM is a huge DPS loss and worse than indi-haste/hastega2 just because groups maxing efficiency will kill bosses in 30-60 seconds and you can spend upwards of 30 seconds just haste2ing all the DD's.

Meanwhile a geo or SMN presses 1 button and everyone is immediately hasted.

[Jakuk]

Well then RDM will forever be subpar and useless because "my sch needs to be special".

Even if RDM was good, waiting for them to cast haste2 on every single party member after popping a NM is a huge DPS loss and worse than indi-haste/hastega2 just because groups maxing efficiency will kill bosses in 30-60 seconds and you can spend upwards of 30 seconds just haste2ing all the DD's.

Meanwhile a geo or SMN presses 1 button and everyone is immediately hasted.

tbh it's not even about that as such, this idea a JA shouldn't work with all known spells is ridiculous. if Accession works with Refresh it should work with Refresh II and III, If it works with Enspell I it should work with Enspell II, if it works with Phalanx it should work with lolPhalanx II and if they make it work with Haste it should work with Haste II.

Elemental Seal works with ALL spells.
Convert works the same for ALL jobs.
Sekkanoki works the same for ALL jobs.
Last Resort works the same for ALL jobs.
Hasso works the same for ALL jobs (albeit STR/ACC Capped at SJ level).

These aren't the only JA's not limited.

So this idea a JA shouldn't be as good subjob is ridiculous, there is already limits on Accession.

2 charges every 4 minutes.
Double MP cost, Triple spell recast.

Even without this, crap, only certain tier lines of a spell if SCH can use it we are not in the 75 era when the job was first introduced, where Accession was all SCH really got, they are so past AoE Enhancing magic only it's unreal.

[Zuidar]

I forgot about this subject for a long time :p. Years back the Devs said they were going to look into whether to allow Haste to be stacked with Accession, is there any possibility of this happening?

EDIT: Okay the last Dev response was July 31st, 2015


We’re currently looking into making Accession work with Haste, so please wait a bit longer.

However, we have no plans to add additional AoE haste spells for players as it would reduce the effectiveness of Garuda's utility.

but they have pretty much left no follow-up on it

[Zuidar]

I forgot about this subject for a long time :p. Years back the Devs said they were going to look into whether to allow Haste to be stacked with Accession, is there any possibility of this happening?

EDIT: Okay the last Dev response was July 31st, 2015



but they have pretty much left no follow-up on it

Almost 2 years has passed and still no follow up on the subject. Please consider allowing Accession to work with Haste.

[Shiyo]

Needs to happen, I spend the majority of my game time buffing and waiting around for buffs.