View Full Version : Level 91-99 Content (OUTSIDE ABYSSEA).
Abyssea was/is awesome, but i would like to return to the old world now. Anyone else agree?
We're, probably, not likely to see another expansion but a new zone akin to Sea/Sky etc.., would be a nice start.
Leveling would likely still be done in Abyssea, but i believe it's time for something fresh & challenging.
WORST CASE SCENARIO:
We end up with recycled zones, the new BC's or raid-like content(dynamis etc).
What do YOU want for endgame? Update:[Majority Say Box-expansion & new zones]
What type of content do you guys want for FF11 now?
I would really love to see a new expansion with "New" areas. I was a little disappointed with Aby just being rebuilds.
Dymlos
03-08-2011, 09:34 PM
Honestly I want to see a new 'boxed' expansion with new zones. Look at how much lore they can give us by letting us to go to other continents. Hell, I'd like to go to the far east and see Tenzen again.
Kimiko
03-08-2011, 09:42 PM
Or the Mithran homelands, or the far north, or the undiscovered countries to the west? Eh, eh?
Coldbrand
03-08-2011, 09:48 PM
I definitely agree we need a boxed Far East expansion which could probably also sneak in the Mithra homeland. As for how I'd like my endgame content? I'd like an another entirely new gameplay concept like dynamis or einherjar, that's why I like FFXI, always something new instead of just more of the same.
You know what I'd really enjoy? Something like the arena in FFVII's gold saucer. Give me round after round of brutal boss battles one after another designed for solo or small parties. Have it so we can choose between tweaking it to be customized to our choice (via MMM) or maybe offer greater rewards for taking on random enemies. Have all kinds of different optional settings too, like removing time to recover between fights, adding limitations (via salvage), or making certain types of attacks work best.
MistaPita
03-08-2011, 09:53 PM
I just want to play in zones with weather effects and clouds again instead of black to red gradient...
I miss the pretty skies!
Vivik
03-08-2011, 09:55 PM
I would love to see a new expansion. Maybe even three new jobs to go along with it. Not a rehashed old zone expansion. Make it happen SE!
I definitely agree we need a boxed Far East expansion which could probably also sneak in the Mithra homeland. As for how I'd like my endgame content? I'd like an another entirely new gameplay concept like dynamis or einherjar, that's why I like FFXI, always something new instead of just more of the same.
You know what I'd really enjoy? Something like the arena in FFVII's gold saucer. Give me round after round of brutal boss battles one after another designed for solo or small parties. Have it so we can choose between tweaking it to be customized to our choice (via MMM) or maybe offer greater rewards for taking on random enemies. Have all kinds of different optional settings too, like removing time to recover between fights, adding limitations (via salvage), or making certain types of attacks work best.
Reminds me of the Colosseum in Kingdom Hearts. In FF11 it could be similar, but be like BCNM-Progression fights.
It would only be bosses each time, and you could progress or take different "tiers" for different "ultimate" bosses.
I'd like a Box-expansion, but it took them ages to actually finish the content for them. I"m willing to wait if it's new zones though.
Unctgtg
03-08-2011, 09:58 PM
They make enough off us to make an entire new expansion. How about Port the FFXIV world to FFXI . That can be your expansion.
Yer I'd like to see a new expansion with a whole new area. Don't get me wrong Abyssea and WotG are good expansions but they use the same zones from Vanadiel.
I'd like to see a hidden island to the east discovered where a primal mithra tribe live. They have hidden ancient magic and their main city is underground or in a cave under the sea, (Sort of like where Atlantis is believed to be). And the tribe's architecture and culture are all very spiritual, tribal and basic and the ancient magic given to them by the gods lets them use these vehicles, which look kinda steam punk design and tacky but they have no engine and are driven by this ancient magic within the spirit of the Mithra there.
Maybe bring 1 or 2 new Jobs which fit in with that.
Vivik
03-08-2011, 10:01 PM
They make enough off us to make an entire new expansion. How about Port the FFXIV world to FFXI . That can be your expansion.
Or better yet port ffxi gameplay to ffxiv. It would not suck so bad then.
Coldbrand
03-08-2011, 10:01 PM
Or rather than retcon Eorzea open an inter-dimensional portal.
Or better yet port ffxi gameplay to ffxiv. It would not suck so bad then.
That's basically already happening since every survey they have just has us and the JP voting for just that.
Vivik
03-08-2011, 10:03 PM
Or rather than retcon Eorzea open an inter-dimensional portal.
OOOOOoooo! inter-dimensional portal! There we go.
Coldbrand
03-08-2011, 10:04 PM
Yer I'd like to see a new expansion with a whole new area. Don't get me wrong Abyssea and WotG are good expansions but they use the same zones from Vanadiel.
I'd like to see a hidden island to the east discovered where a primal mithra tribe live. They have hidden ancient magic and their main city is underground or in a cave under the sea, (Sort of like where Atlantis is believed to be). And the tribe's architecture and culture are all very spiritual, tribal and basic and the ancient magic given to them by the gods lets them use these vehicles, which look kinda steam punk design and tacky but they have no engine and are driven by this ancient magic within the spirit of the Mithra there.
Maybe bring 1 or 2 new Jobs which fit in with that.
The mithra continent is to the south and there's another also spiritual culture with the western continent. (We know about the western continent from the bison jackets etc. that are all very obviously derived from Native American culture.)
Kimiko
03-08-2011, 10:05 PM
Personally, I'm hoping within the next version update or two that we'll see some challenges actually worthy of level 90+ characters outside of Abyssea (stuff like non-brewed Shinryu, Rani, etc...). The game has frankly become too easy in most circumstances.
Gigas Homeland to the North?
Vivik
03-08-2011, 10:08 PM
Or rather than retcon Eorzea open an inter-dimensional portal.
That's basically already happening since every survey they have just has us and the JP voting for just that.
I was thinking a bit more all encompassing. Take the animations for JAs, WSs, and Magic for instance. They are just plain horrible in ffxiv, but they are pretty freakin awesome in ffxi.
SE said they would especially keep an eye on the hottest topics. I hope it doesn't end up being some pointless thread.
Showmo
03-08-2011, 10:19 PM
I'd love another boxed expansion. I always have so much fun exploring the new areas and events, and I'm sure many others do too. More storyline and background Vana'diel history on the related area is always fun too, especially when they're incorporated within the storyline missions and side quests for that expansion.
LeChuck
03-08-2011, 11:00 PM
Another full expansion like CoP, the story was sooooo good. With new (really new) areas to explore, new kind of mobs/beastmen, new end-game activity and, hopefully, 2-3 new jobs. As it's already been stated, there's a lot of Vana'diel we already know (far east/Mithra land/Nortlands/the west) that we haven't seen, it's all already there, let us just explore it
Rosalie
03-08-2011, 11:02 PM
There's also the Far West to consider (where all those Bisons are to make jackets out of)
Masekase
03-08-2011, 11:31 PM
I would actually like new areas inside abyssea or at least in the same style of abyssea.
ShadowHeart
03-08-2011, 11:42 PM
There is a far off land below the seas where lays a city called Atlantis. ARRRRR these are the waters that black beard dare not go so be wary. Here tenzen awaits to avenge his wrath with a vengeance but beware there be mighty monsters to challenge the weary travelers even at the highest of levels so bring your friends bring them all because its here you will begin to fall!!!
Nichelsyn
03-08-2011, 11:56 PM
They have an entire world map showing the lands to the north, the far east, and much more. I would be nice to revisit our old far eastern friend, perhaps settle the war between the far east and aht urhgan. With FXIV not being as successful as they hoped, they should continue adding expansions to xi. They did say one that as long as they were people playing xi the stories & content would continue. That was awhile back though, along with a rumor that they had a storyline written for 11 to cover 10-15 years of playing.
Gadanae
03-08-2011, 11:59 PM
I think SE has already hinted about this actually. If you pay attention to your cutscenes from Abyssea quests, it will become somewhat clear.
The new end-game area will be:
Moon.
Think about it. We have sky, and sea. Watch and see if i'm right.
Dreimar
03-09-2011, 12:18 AM
YAY!! To The Moon!! chaaargee!
Woah cant wait to quest my SpaceChocobo license! :XD
Seriously.
I also wish in something far away from abyssea, challengin , even frustrating difficult !
A new boxed expansion set will be huge but remeber WoTG 286MB overall?...
well abyssea gameplay will be "imported" to Dynamis , or thats what its seems to became, good idea.
But we want more! right ? -.^
Masekase
03-09-2011, 08:15 AM
I think SE has already hinted about this actually. If you pay attention to your cutscenes from Abyssea quests, it will become somewhat clear.
The new end-game area will be:
Moon.
Think about it. We have sky, and sea. Watch and see if i'm right.
Moon has always been around its behind moon gate.
Andevom
03-09-2011, 08:27 AM
Awww man. Every time the moon is involved in Final Fantasy, it means massive KOs and a surge of jellies.
Enaula
03-09-2011, 08:35 AM
I want:
90-95: Far east, war between near east and far east. Need help for peace? :p
95-99: The continent of Olzhirya (Mithra homeland) :)
Moon for endgame lvl99 ll be nice
I know just a dream :)
Wenceslao
03-09-2011, 09:01 AM
I would like to see the Northlands and Mithra's land, the Northlands belongs to the orcs and gigas, they could take advantage of it and make a new sea/sky like zones that would be a challenge to all 90+ ppls, don't you think?
Kagato
03-09-2011, 09:14 AM
I am all for this. Selbina only has one boat trip. Make it have a 2nd boat like Mhaura does. That boat takes you to the far east or the northlands. Maybe even give the town of Rabao some love by giving it an Airship that takes you to a new land?
Until every continent on Vana'diel is explorable, this game is not finished.
I think most people seem to want a Box expansion and new zones. Now then, would you guys be willing to pay $50, $30 for it?
Personally, I'd pay $50 for another good expansion. However, if it were released with barely any content i think $30 seems appropriate.
sharkie
03-09-2011, 09:57 AM
Make the ghost ship in Norg accessible and go somewhere new :)
Fearforever
03-09-2011, 09:57 AM
I'd love to see a new boxed expansion with maybe 1-2 new jobs, a brand new endgame area (like ToAU gave us with nyzle/salvage) but could the PS2 support this without causing issues?
And i'd happily pay $30 for a new boxed expansion if it gave brand new, decent content
Amanie
03-09-2011, 10:36 AM
the boxed expansion were $19.99. dont let SE know that you'll pay more for one!!! whats wrong with you!!!!
Gwynplaine
03-09-2011, 10:39 AM
Honestly, I'm going to be disapointed with anything less than original content in 2011. Things like: sincerely new zones that aren't like a chopped up version of Gusgen Mines (Ruhotz Silvermines). New mobs, new towns, etc.
Is that a lot to ask at this point? Probably, but it's what I'm willing to continue paying to play for.
Abyssea has done a good job of starting the bridge to 99. Sure, it was old reused content wrung out, shaken, and remixed. But it did work. It's fun, casual, and rewarding for the money.
Now with the next whole year before us, we have to wonder again if we'll see much genuinely new content on the horizon. We've been patient but the wait has just been so incredibly long. Wings of the Goddess was released over 3 years ago which began the new norm of reusing old content. Then came the Quest Addon Scenarios, and last year Abyssea.
It doesn't help that the characters at the end of Wings gloat about leaving on their journeys to go to other, more interesting places :D At this point I'm convinced most players would hand over all their money to Square for either just expanding onto new continents or making skillups faster/easier.
Even smaller, more compact zones full of pathways would be great. That was one of the secrets behind Treasures. Unlike the old zones (which are hugely vast but empty), Treasures featured relatively small zones that were long, winding and more constrained. But the result was more intimate and scenic zones with a refreshing feel.
I don't know how much resources the FFXI team has at their disposal at this point. But as it is I'm not sure my interest will hold if 2011 only brings spring cleaning to old content I've done.
Killanthype
03-09-2011, 10:51 AM
It's good that we beat up Shinyru in Abyssea. Now we have no reason to go back there for anything but passing amusement (and maybe a few drops we missed on the first pass.)
I can not agree more with the above posters calling for a full boxed expansion to this game with new stories and zones. WotG did a respectable job of adding in new zones (even the recycles had substantial modifications), but anything less is unacceptable. Something along CoP or ToAU is in order. Quest lines are just as important as the rewards.
And don't even think of charging us 10$ for a single quest chain and some augmented body piece that is not only ugly, but of questionable value.
I'd also like to see the leveling to 99 slowed just a little bit. Not 50k a level at 5k/hour XP rate, but something that takes more than a day to cap. Now if we could come up with some innovative way to level up that wasn't based on XP grinding....
DurtieSweat
03-09-2011, 10:56 AM
but could the PS2 support this without causing issues?
This is why FFXI will die. Dont get me wrong, Id love to see a real expansion so the adventure can continue, but our retard brother PS2 keeps us handicapped.
I think it would be a great idea to not only get a box expansion but be able to use our newly earned atma in these new areas.
Moink
03-09-2011, 11:06 AM
I say make a petition saying "Drop the PS2, upgrade local speed connections, and build a new expansion!"
But thats just me.
Wenceslao
03-09-2011, 11:07 AM
SE should stop supporting PS2 in favor for better gameplay experience, i would like to see a new expansion too, but most of all i would like to see an Oracle like job (like in FFT), i know many of you could tell me that BLM, RDM, WHM, and SCH has some of their abilities, but think about a job entirely dedicate to that kind of issues, that would set the other mages jobs focus on their primary duties....
Kagato
03-09-2011, 11:25 AM
This is why FFXI will die. Dont get me wrong, Id love to see a real expansion so the adventure can continue, but our retard brother PS2 keeps us handicapped.
I think it would be a great idea to not only get a box expansion but be able to use our newly earned atma in these new areas.
You have to understand something, though. The PS2 HDD can hold up to 40GB (if you bought the official one). HDD support is very very small, even smaller for the US players. Most, if not all games with HDD support are no longer being played. Resident Evil Outbreak, for example, closed it's online servers YEARS ago in the USA and it's barely alive in japan.
FFXI, right now, only uses 1/4th of the HDD. When FFXI fills up all 40GB, that's when it truly must end.
Wenceslao
03-09-2011, 11:28 AM
Or they just can stop giving support to PS2 players (im one of them) n make us change plataform, to pc, xbox, or ps3, n keep going with better issues
Starcade
03-09-2011, 11:31 AM
Or they just can stop giving support to PS2 players (im one of them) n make us change plataform, to pc, xbox, or ps3, n keep going with better issues
If they're going to ditch PS2, get rid of XLax CrashBox support while you're at it.
It's almost comedic to hear all the XLax users crash during Besieged.
DurtieSweat
03-09-2011, 11:55 AM
You have to understand something, though. The PS2 HDD can hold up to 40GB (if you bought the official one). HDD support is very very small, even smaller for the US players. Most, if not all games with HDD support are no longer being played. Resident Evil Outbreak, for example, closed it's online servers YEARS ago in the USA and it's barely alive in japan.
FFXI, right now, only uses 1/4th of the HDD. When FFXI fills up all 40GB, that's when it truly must end.
1st I understand. Understand the that HDD for PS2 came out 8 years ago and they stopped making them 4-5 years ago and they are as rare now as a HD-DVD player and as useless. Wenceslao is right... Just phase ps2 support and users out. And a good way to start is to make a box expansion that does not support PS2. That way we can have better graphics and framerates for EVERYONES enjoyment. 'cept PS2.
Starcade
03-09-2011, 11:59 AM
1st I understand. Understand the that HDD for PS2 came out 8 years ago and they stopped making them 4-5 years ago and they are as rare now as a HD-DVD player and as useless. Wenceslao is right... Just phase ps2 support and users out. And a good way to start is to make a box expansion that does not support PS2. That way we can have better graphics and framerates for EVERYONES enjoyment. 'cept PS2.
People continually forget that the majority of JP players use PS2s.
PS2 support is *NOT* going away as long as this is true.
Wenceslao
03-09-2011, 12:00 PM
1st I understand. Understand the that HDD for PS2 came out 8 years ago and they stopped making them 4-5 years ago and they are as rare now as a HD-DVD player and as useless. Wenceslao is right... Just phase ps2 support and users out. And a good way to start is to make a box expansion that does not support PS2. That way we can have better graphics and framerates for EVERYONES enjoyment. 'cept PS2.
Yep, an actually it would be an epic win for SE
tlaloc
03-09-2011, 12:40 PM
now that jobs and subjobs can be combinated to better addapt to the play style and situation; some ballista based content to level up to 99 with limit break for subjobs... of course new zones, storyline, new jobs inside a new shiny boxed expansion
From another thread. Thought i would link the entire world map.
http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/6/63/CompleteWorldMap.jpg
So much room for expansion.
DurtieSweat
03-09-2011, 01:57 PM
From another thread. Thought i would link the entire world map.
http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/6/63/CompleteWorldMap.jpg
So much room for expansion.
Sad thing about this map is I 1st seen it years ago. Its like we're the Bermuda triangle of Vana'dial.
Aliron
03-09-2011, 05:34 PM
Well there are a few continents left to explore, the rest of the Eastern Continent of Aradjiah, were Tenzen and the Yagudo if from, the Southern continent of Olzhirya, where the Mithra were from, along with Rhazowa the Northern continent filled with Gigas's and probably Orc, and finally the western continent I belive is called Ulbuka, which Tavnazia had dealings with, all of which were in the previously posted map link. I would love to be able to explore these areas, also has anyone seen the 8th Protocrystal; the Protocrystal of Light? Everyone's familiar with the usual 6 to get the Celestial Avatars, and those familiar with CoP know about the Dark Protocrystal. I may not have progessed in the remaining storylines I have left to do in orger to be privy to the info.
I personally am not all that interested in the what if storylines they've pumped out with WoTG and Abyssea, the Time Travel and Dimension hopping should have been saved for after the other continents were explored. Plus the zones are getting a little full with entrances to other realms really. I would really like to see content that rewards usage of the older content as well as lightly promoting its own rewards like they touched on with abyssea, but still maintain some semblance of balance. As well I would like to see more emphasize on other aspects of jobs, for example WHM can use club, but there is next to nothing to encourage it, or the WAR ability to use so many weapons, but still the game content forces them towards what they think should be the norm of using an Axe or Great Axe, and as many have probably said before me, the RDM melee capability being heavily ignored by both Party oriented and the game content itself. Where's our customization that SE mentioned really?
Several ways that they can address it as well, such as their new favorites, Synergy and Magian Trials to make gear semi-customizable, or even allow the regular crafts to do such but have Key Item requirements as per normal. Maybe allow mages to make charged and rechargable gear, but to make it, they require the spell and a special item to channel the spell. I know that last idea came right out of D&D, but if it worked, why toss it.
It does seem like they should have not got off track with existing lore (aka. Abyssea) and just used what we already knew. This parallel, alternate universe seemed like pathetic storytelling, imo.
Miiyo
03-10-2011, 05:14 AM
I think OUTSIDE ABYSSEA in itself can bring a real challenge back to the game. We've gotten so used to ridiculous mp/hp, insane strength, and limitless mp for cures. Bring back reality where you have to use skills and actually pay more attention to detail. However, as a full time mage i think all, and only, mp atma should be used outside abyssea. :D
However, as a full time mage i think all, and only, mp atma should be used outside abyssea. :D
Agreed. I look forward to challenge outside abyssea, but I don't look forward to having to sit down and rest MP. There's nothing more boring than having to stop doing everything and sit doing nothing.
I also wonder if they will find some kind of Buffing NPC that will let us use our Atma's outside. However if they were to do this for content 91-99 i really hope they scale the fights to be much harder in comparison to Abyssea (Need good AI NM's these days).
I still welcome abyssea for 91-99 ( just because i doubt anyone really loved the old idea of LFG for 10h and just bc you used the bathroom to pee, you missed the only chance to get an invite ) But i also wish SE still give alternative for who love to play hardcore, even if the only difference is the texture on the gear (and both have same stats) at least that give some interest to do it, so everyone is happy.
Dreimar
03-11-2011, 12:38 PM
From another thread. Thought i would link the entire world map.
http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/6/63/CompleteWorldMap.jpg
So much room for expansion.
"Shrink not from your future, my friend..." "Your destiny is yours alone to forge"
"For this is neither the beginning nor the end, but merely one stop on a journey of limitless possibilities.."
"But that is a story for another time. Another day, when the stars in the heavens align to bring our paths
toegether once more ..."
Seems thers alot more stuff to enjoy in the future.
PS2 limitation isnt the HHD size, they just play with ugly 3D quality >_<;
Mirage
03-11-2011, 04:21 PM
I too would like some content that isn't in abyssea
Nightstrike
03-11-2011, 05:39 PM
id like to see a new expansion like the far east. Id also like to see them add the area's like Grauberg, Fort Karugo-Narugo, and Vunkerl Inlet accessible outside of the past. You can toss in high lvl mob's(like stuff lv70-80's could party on) and make them area's only accessible at a certain lvl/rank or mission completion in WoG.
maj0ga
03-11-2011, 06:28 PM
Definitely would like new expansion with new areas. Far East, South, West, and North all I'd like to see and as mentioned before Moon would be awesome 99 Endgame (and no not Ro'Maeve), heck I even think the technology in the Far West could even take us there. And also access to the first city we've ever seen in Vana'diel, Tavnazia (could see this being part of "The Last Verse").
Tsukino_Kaji
03-11-2011, 07:28 PM
Abyssea was/is awesome, but i would like to return to the old world now. Anyone else agree?
We're, probably, not likely to see another expansion but a new zone akin to Sea/Sky etc.., would be a nice start.
Leveling would likely still be done in Abyssea, but i believe it's time for something fresh & challenging.
WORST CASE SCENARIO:
We end up with recycled zones, the new BC's or raid-like content(dynamis etc).
What do YOU want for endgame? Update:[Majority Say Box-expansion & new zones]
What type of content do you guys want for FF11 now?They didn't uncap COP just so they could go back and make it impossible again.
They didn't uncap COP just so they could go back and make it impossible again.
COP was good for it's time and frustrating at the same time. Also, what does COP have to do with new content?
(opening up more floors in the palace is the best i can think of)
My concern is not that content becomes accessible to everyone. My concern is simply that we need new zones & content. Not rehashed areas & copy pasta etc...