Ambuscade future rewards

[Zeldar]

OK, so we can only assume that next months Ambuscade will see an updated version of the Morrigan set, since it is the last in the line of what they have upgraded so far. My question is, what is next? Maybe you guys at SE plan to "reforge" the assault sets. I'm not expecting a response. I just wanted to create a post where the community can give some feedback. It would be a shame if the cycle of current gear is just repeated every few months.

[BBWallace]

Next is probably Nyzul.

[detlef]

I'm not sure what i want. Repeating gear is good and bad; if you missed Sulevia gear you'd probably love to see it again but for people who capped out I'm sure they'd be disappointed to see the repeat. Maybe they should've released all 5 sets at the beginning and then placed a monthly limit like they did with capes. New gear is always great though.

[Zeldar]

They could continue to offer past gear with gallantry, only they would need to maybe put 2 prior sets in each rotation....like 1 from the salvage and 1 from whatever other set they decide to do next (if any).

[Nyarlko]

I would like to see the BST cape adjusted so it doesn't effectively have a blank/no-effect buff slot. ^^ "Reward +30" literally does nothing for a BST who has just 2x reforges...

I'm wondering if they are going to limit themselves to dropped gear only. It could be rather smile-inducing to see people running around again in ilvl versions of Scorpion Harness, Brigandines and/or Vermillion Cloaks for instance. XD

[Zeldar]

There are iLevel versions of that stuff. Check out Emets Harness and Respite cloak.

[Nyarlko]

There are iLevel versions of that stuff. Check out Emets Harness and Respite cloak.

:x Forgot about those, but was mainly just pointing out that there are lots of old lower level gear that would be nice to have ilvl versions available. Plenty of potential other than Salvage, Einherjar, etc

[Camate]

Greetings, everyone!

As pointed out by Zeldar, the newly added Jhakri equipment makes it so all jobs have Ambuscade equipment now, and in terms of what comes next, we will be making it possible to reacquire past pieces for those who might have missed certain months of Ambuscade. In the next version update we'll be introducing tickets that can be purchased with total hallmarks, which will allow you to select the piece of gear you would like.

[Olor]

oh, that is nice. Is it possible that these tickets will require less total hallmarks than a regular HQ set has been recently? Because, frankly, as a mostly solo/duo player it is just too many hallmarks to get enough for all the HQ gear.

Either that, or if we could carry some over. I am fine with working hard to get the HQ set, but it really sucks when my progress gets wiped every month. Are the devs looking at a way to make sure that these sets are still attainable once the interest in the event goes down and people are forced to solo it?

Even an item that could be bought with total hallmarks and traded in for hallmarks at a 50 per cent basis would be helpful. Even if it took me 6 months to get the HQ item I want I wouldn't mind, but there is just no way I can get HQ sets with it resetting each month.

Like "Hallmark Token" - trade in for 500 hallmarks - buy it with 1000 hallmarks. Then I could save them up to buy a HQ body one month.

[BBWallace]

So does that mean we aren't getting a new set next month?

[detlef]

It sounds like Jhakri with Gallantry combined with either Sulevia with total Hallmarks/Coupon for old gear or just coupons.

[Ketaru]

oh, that is nice. Is it possible that these tickets will require less total hallmarks than a regular HQ set has been recently? Because, frankly, as a mostly solo/duo player it is just too many hallmarks to get enough for all the HQ gear.

Either that, or if we could carry some over. I am fine with working hard to get the HQ set, but it really sucks when my progress gets wiped every month. Are the devs looking at a way to make sure that these sets are still attainable once the interest in the event goes down and people are forced to solo it?

Even an item that could be bought with total hallmarks and traded in for hallmarks at a 50 per cent basis would be helpful. Even if it took me 6 months to get the HQ item I want I wouldn't mind, but there is just no way I can get HQ sets with it resetting each month.

Like "Hallmark Token" - trade in for 500 hallmarks - buy it with 1000 hallmarks. Then I could save them up to buy a HQ body one month.

On this point, I agree there should be some sort of choice to carry over progress from month to month. I could understand if they don't want people to spam Ambuscade one month just so they can buy next month's right off the bat, but there should be an option to do so for older gear.

[Catmato]

we will be making it possible to reacquire past pieces for those who might have missed certain months of Ambuscade. In the next version update we'll be introducing tickets that can be purchased with total hallmarks, which will allow you to select the piece of gear you would like.

I hope this doesn't mean that there's no new gear for Ambuscade. You kinda need to give people incentive to keep playing.

[Rydal]

So will the coupons be usable on non-gear items for people that have all the armor already?

[detlef]

I hope this doesn't mean that there's no new gear for Ambuscade. You kinda need to give people incentive to keep playing.Capes and money items are kinda good incentives on their own. Besides I'll bet there are a lot of people who would be relieved that they'll only have to do as much Ambuscade as they want instead of feeling pressured to surpass 14.5k each month (and even more for dyes).


So will the coupons be usable on non-gear items for people that have all the armor already?I think you already know the answer to this.

[Jakuk]

Personally, maybe not from Ambuscade, but I think they should put more time into making the forth JSE Armor.

If anything should be done with Ambuscade, it should be another JSE accessory.

[Rydal]

I think you already know the answer to this.

I want them to say it.

[Akivatoo]

Ambuscade can also provide jse accessories like waist neck ammo.
@se why did you forgive hp/mp on ambuscade equipment ?

[detlef]

I want them to say it.Your expectations seem unrealistic. If you don't need the gear, why not just stop doing Ambuscade?

[Jile]

So will the coupons be usable on non-gear items for people that have all the armor already?


While the answer seems self evident, I'd expect their answer to be:

No plans.

[truxton]

I don't think Ambuscade really needs to add any new gear, other then maybe waist pieces would be nice. Augmented Waist pieces would be great since many of the best waist pieces are in awkward outdated areas that most can't solo like vagary, woe lvl 120, incursion

It takes a lot of grinding to get 4 or more jobs done with capes, so to me this is enough right here. There is always a benefit to doing ambuscade even if you got all the gear and cape augments. Lots of HMP and other valuable items to gain for profit just for helping others.

[Camate]

I hope this doesn't mean that there's no new gear for Ambuscade. You kinda need to give people incentive to keep playing.

Not what it means at all! The development team first would like to give those that may have missed out on previous months’ Ambuscade rewards by implementing these tickets, but they are also actively working on creating new equipment to be added to Ambuscade after this.

Also, as another quick note, the tickets that can be purchased through Ambuscade will require the same amount of points as usual.

[Mithlas]

Hey Camate,

Can we get confirmation if the tickets will require Hallmarks or if they will require Gallantry?
Gallantry are kind of a pain to gather.

[Camate]

Hey Camate,

Can we get confirmation if the tickets will require Hallmarks or if they will require Gallantry?
Gallantry are kind of a pain to gather.

The tickets will actually be available for total Hallmarks only. These tickets will only be exchangeable for all of the Ambuscade equipment introduced thus far, and not for any other type of items.

While I mentioned that we would be adding new equipment after September, we’ll be looking into methods so that these previous sets can still be obtained by those who missed prior months. However, there is a possibility that we do not limit this to Hallmarks and may do something different.

[ZetaEpyon]

These tickets will only be exchangeable for all of the Ambuscade equipment introduced thus far, and not for any other type of items.

Well, this kinda sucks. Means that they're essentially useless for those of us who have stuck to doing Ambuscade every month so far, negating a huge part of the incentive to actually do it...

[Nyarlko]

Well, this kinda sucks. Means that they're essentially useless for those of us who have stuck to doing Ambuscade every month so far, negating a huge part of the incentive to actually do it...

The end result would be the same if they simply started the loop back over, which I imagine was the short-term alternative. I for one appreciate the ability to choose which body+1 to grab instead of a specific set. We will still need to attain the same number of total hallmarks, so it's not any easier to get than it has been so far, but at least now there's a choice for those whose available playtime varies per month.

[Mookies75]

Well, this kinda sucks. Means that they're essentially useless for those of us who have stuck to doing Ambuscade every month so far, negating a huge part of the incentive to actually do it...

Needs to be some way for people to get sets/pieces they missed... Plus he said that new armor sets are coming. I don't understand how this is bad. It actually sounds like it's being done right and they're leaving the door open for tweaks if needed.

[ZetaEpyon]

I'm not saying that making the older sets accessible to players who missed them is a bad thing. In fact, I think that using tickets to allow people to choose which pieces they want is a great idea.

I'm lamenting the fact that September is going to have considerably less appeal for those of us who already have all the existing sets. Being able to exchange the tickets for something would be nice.

[Nyarlko]

I'm not saying that making the older sets accessible to players who missed them is a bad thing. In fact, I think that using tickets to allow people to choose which pieces they want is a great idea.

I'm lamenting the fact that September is going to have considerably less appeal for those of us who already have all the existing sets. Being able to exchange the tickets for something would be nice.

Well, you can still make yet another cape for some job or another since many are BIS at least. ^^;; Or make money off of selling upgrade mats. Or help out some freshly 99'd sparks geared returnee. Or simply enjoy the breathing room given by a month w/ no pressure to get yet another set of armor that you are likely to toss at the porter moogle once you get some good Reisenjima augs. XD
You'll still get the benefit of every other "Total Hallmarks" loot, just a lack of armor rewards. Plenty of other reasons to dive in.

[RichLester]

I like the idea of adding waist pieces but can SE also add neck & ammo slot pieces to the armour list too?

In terms of the new tickets, I'm quite disappointed. I wished I could get my body/head/legs +1 for the pieces I missed using these vouchers. I think that all +1 vouchers are the same price (1000 hallmarks, say) & purchasable via hallmarks, not total hallmarks. The new waist/neck/ammo pieces will be via total hallmarks next time.

[Nyarlko]

OK, so, we've gotten all 5x sets of Salvage gear (plus a catch-up month), and the assumption everyone is making right now is that the 3x Assault sets are next up... But what's coming after that? >_>;;

Assuming there is another catch-up month w/ vouchers for the new sets, that gives us a total of 10 months accounted for.. The impression I've gotten from dev feedback is that Ambuscade is going to be running on an annual cycle, so what's going to happen with the last two months? Even one month is used for a full catch-up (all vouchers available), that still leaves one orphan month..

Devs: Is the current plan to continuously add new sets/vouchers from now on, while not repeating and basically ignoring the calendar? Or if Ambuscade is intended to be a repeated annual cycle, what are you going to fill the 11th/12th months with?

Was chatting w/ LS earlier about this and came up with the idea to fill that 11th month with an updated RSE set. (Since there was no head, perhaps a non-displayed one like a hairpin could be used to fill out the set.)
Similar to the originals, it should be "All Jobs" with appearance varying based on race. Wearing the full set would give even stats across the board (all attributes +100ish) with a solid chunk of HP/MP, and enough of the baseline ilvl stats to be competitive with gear from other 119-125 content. If there are concerns that an "All Jobs" set could impact balance, then maybe go with a defensive focus with "Damage Taken -%, higher-end MDB, Regen/Refresh and "Resist all elements" spread out over the set, but include enough direct combat stats (specifically accuracy, magic accuracy, ranged accuracy, evasion, magic evasion and haste) for the set to be useful to players who are trying to get into 119-125 content regardless of their current job, but generalized enough so that there are still plenty of clear/obvious upgrades to hunt down for each job. A leg up for all newer players and a potential space-saver for experienced ones. It could also be amusing to see everyone running around in basically their starter/onion gear once again. :D

I'm sure there would be concerns over receiving the wrong race's gear for some if all choices were displayed in the reward menu, so some form of racial check would have to be performed to only display equipable gear. If it would not be possible to implement a racial check within the rewards menu itself, then I think it would be best to use vouchers which could be traded in for the appropriate piece based on player race. The voucher system could allow for a simple race check without having to alter the coding of the base rewards menu itself.

[Dekusuta]

I hope we don't keep getting more sidegrade gears that's 90% filler with one piece that's great for min-maxing.
I feel like the Salvage version 3.0 gear from the Ambuscade set does a pretty good job of providing 1 or 2 or more (set dependent) excellent pieces, with a few OK pieces new players or players gearing up a job for the fist time can sort of use instead of the heavily outdated 117 RoE sets.

But doing that over again with the Assault pieces would be too much. Besides, when the Assault pieces came out during the ToaU era, the salvage pieces were near unobtainable and mos to of the assault pieces weren't great.

That said, they can reskin the Nyzul Isle and Assault gear for i119 purposes, but I just hope they have a good solid theme to work from or we're just going to get a lot of junk we won't use. I feel like Ambush gear already covers the generalist i119 niche.

[esmrambo]

Is there going to be a use for the NQ gear for those that we get HQ?
Or should we just toss the NQ pieces once we acquire HQ pieces.

[detlef]

Have you tried storing it? There's an NPC called a Porter Moogle that can store a lot of your gear. There are different slips for different sets and one of them happens to be for Ambuscade.