WHM/MNK (this is not a troll)

[Rezeak]

This other day i was reading about how counterstance + roaring laughter atma = ~70% counter-rate on ANY job

Anyway the other day i tried it and it's pretty insane i soloed the rabbit that gave the orisons cape.

I used RR MM and R.Laughter i used some hp gear and pizza with the usale WHM gear and i have to say it's a pretty solid solo combination (pretty fast too since ur reflecting dmg + no downtime casting shadows)

Either way i recommend trying it out if your into playing WHM properly also i'll leave ya with this ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DFrnTKBwHg&feature=player_embedded

[Tsukino_Kaji]

It just goes to show you that with a change in play style, any job is still strong.
So no more complainer PLDs complaining please. ^^

[Kaych]

I cant wait to try this^^ MNK lvl 24 :D Only 25 lvls to go :P

[Hoshi]

Oh geeze... going to have to actually level monk now. That sounds like so much fun!

[Kuvo]

That seems awesome, I guess it's time for me to refocus on MNK too. Great post.

[Kaych]

Just got my monk to lvl 45^^ And I have to say, its working quite good :D

Now for the Counter Atma^_-

[Kaych]

I wonder if this could work with my Avatar^^

I gave up upon getting the Counter atma ; ; I need lvl 4 fame >_> I just dont wanna repeat more quests...

[Rezeak]

U need counterstance for it to be worthwhile so it wouldn't be good on a avatar

Ducal guard is insane on avatars making a avatar take 10% DMG from melee and 50% from magic or something

[Korpg]

U need counterstance for it to be worthwhile so it wouldn't be good on a avatar

Ducal guard is insane on avatars making a avatar take 10% DMG from melee and 50% from magic or something

Avatars have always taken 50% damage from all forms of damage (except the element they are weak against).

Ducal Guard only adds more damage reduction to physical because avatars also have a 100% guard proc rate and the atma gives a superior damage reduction for guarded damage.

As for /MNK, you should try Roaring Laughter and Gnarled Horn, with counterstance up its insane.

[Rezeak]

I'm not sure about the magic but i take more than 10% magic DMG when fighting mobs with that atma

As for Avatars guarding i'm calling BS on that lol

Roaring Laugher and Gnarled horn means u lose RR or MM which as WHM/MNK help alot.

[Charismatic]

A few refresh pieces and an Ethereal Earring more than makes up for the loss of MM on certain NMs and using both means less damage intake because of a higher counter rate. You definitely don't want to give up RR though.
As always, shit's situational.

[Dallas]

As for Avatars guarding i'm calling BS on that lol

Per DG Atma, one of 2 things is true about avatars:

1) They always got their natural 50% damage reduction from auto-guard. The atma accidentally pushed avatars to 100% pdt.
2) They were considered to have less than 50% hp for this atma only. SE decided not to fix this error during a nerf.

The simplest explanation, in absence of a more accurate explanation, is generally accepted as the correct one.

[Bulrogg]

I just unlocked AoRL and AoDG yesterday and haven't had much time to play (test it out) with it.

I'm thinking for NIN/mnk or MNK/xxx: AoRL AoRR & AoGH

[Rezeak]

Per DG Atma, one of 2 things is true about avatars:

1) They always got their natural 50% damage reduction from auto-guard. The atma accidentally pushed avatars to 100% pdt.
2) They were considered to have less than 50% hp for this atma only. SE decided not to fix this error during a nerf.

The simplest explanation, in absence of a more accurate explanation, is generally accepted as the correct one.

it's 2) you can see this by reduced movement speed.

Also u can't guard magic and the atma reduces the magic DMG the avatar takes not to mention u can't guard backwards.

Either way this is a discussion for SMN topic not WHM lol.

[Nakts]

tested this... got my ass handed to me in no time at all, countered once

[Greatguardian]

Was your accuracy capped? You can miss counters, and the mob will hit you if you do.

[WanderingWhiteMage]

WHM/MNK on full HP gear in Abyssea (over 7k HP). Here is the link (http://jarriane.blogspot.com/)