Simian Horns needed once again for npc Emporox

[dasva]

So think meebles is a content we really need to revisit the cost of again.

Most older content has had it's costs lowered a lot either just as the game progressed or from RoV KIs... but not meebles.

And given that we now need Simian horns again for emporox well the reward to cost ratio is all out of whack. Basically as is right now unless I missed something you are doing hours of doing clears (25 different objectives some of which you just can't do super fast) or 1.65 mil and still having to fight 5 bosses not counting going back and getting th/spoils just for a chance to fight Umagrhk which can still kill you relatively easy even at 119 and then only have like 1/3 chance of getting one. If you just try to buy all the clears and assuming you only get spoils for the boss and assuming lvl 2 requires 24 (not sure anyone has finished lvl 1 yet) you are still looking around 130mil and still several hours spent just to finish this.

Fulfilling this objective is way more time/gil intensive than all the others. On par with a relic or 2. And really just completely out of sync with most old content.

tl;dr we should lower meebles requirements like we have almost everything else. Maybe make the clears cost much less with RoV Ki similar to how displacers are

[Gwydion]

So think meebles is a content we really need to revisit the cost of again.

Most older content has had it's costs lowered a lot either just as the game progressed or from RoV KIs... but not meebles.

And given that we now need Simian horns again for emporox well the reward to cost ratio is all out of whack. Basically as is right now unless I missed something you are doing hours of doing clears (25 different objectives some of which you just can't do super fast) or 1.65 mil and still having to fight 5 bosses not counting going back and getting th/spoils just for a chance to fight Umagrhk which can still kill you relatively easy even at 119 and then only have like 1/3 chance of getting one. If you just try to buy all the clears and assuming you only get spoils for the boss and assuming lvl 2 requires 24 (not sure anyone has finished lvl 1 yet) you are still looking around 130mil and still several hours spent just to finish this.

Fulfilling this objective is way more time/gil intensive than all the others. On par with a relic or 2. And really just completely out of sync with most old content.

tl;dr we should lower meebles requirements like we have almost everything else. Maybe make the clears cost much less with RoV Ki similar to how displacers are


I thought there was a RoV KI to let you replenish meebles pheremone sacks every hour ..or am I mistaken?

[dasva]

I thought there was a RoV KI to let you replenish meebles pheremone sacks every hour ..or am I mistaken?

Oh yeah you can go more often that is true but the cost in time or gil is still insane.

[Pups323]

Mauve reduces the timer, not sure what else you need to 'buy' other than a 2k grimore which works for several meebles.

The only way you are getting 130m, is if you are just buying the simian horns at 100k each which i am not sure why you would do since by the time you buy enough horns you could have gotten the item to drop.

Plus simian horns are only needed to buy meeble drops, at either 500 merits or 25000 merits, so if you hand in the 36+ simian horns to unlock the buying of items, you still need 500 or 25000 merits per item, at that rate you could literally get the item to drop for you as many times as you wanted...

[dasva]

You can buy T1-4 clears to speed up the process (extremely nice for final boss run since you can just buy the T4 only instead of working up to it). But they cost 50, 70, 90 and 120k each

Alternatively you can just go thru and do them all even assuming ~5 min each that's over 200 hours of farming for this. And like mentioned if you just want it to buy drops you could just get the drops in that time. But really all of these have higher time/gil requirements that it takes to just get the item. It just seems odd that really old outdate stuff like this would effectively be like farming 2 relics or so. I mean it'd be like if they had a dynamis one and it was 1 1000 piece for the first lvl 2 for the 2nd level or even crazier a few stacks of marrows and it just let you buy base armor/weapons for a bunch of points

[Kensagaku]

Don't give SE ideas, they'd do something like that for Arch-boss drops from Dynamis. :P They're already charging insane merit costs for items!