What exactly is going on with this games future?

[Makenshi]

I thought the november update was the final one and everything after would just be minor bug fixes and balancing. But on the front page we have

"Announcing the Next Version Update (16/11/2015)
The next version update is scheduled for early December.

Scheduled for the upcoming patch are further festivities in Geas Fete with powerful notorious monsters, and further steps in the aeonic weapon questline, culminating in the completion of the weapons themselves. New emotes and Unity outfits are on the docket as well! "


So what exactly is or isnt happen with this games future support?

[Shirai]

See: http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11eu/detail/14306/detail.html

Condensed:

As announced in March, we will continue minor version updates through and beyond April 2016. Each month we will bring you battlefields, Record of Eminence additions, balance adjustments, and bug fixes. Vana'diel's story does not end here, and in the near future we are planning a version update for December. We will have further updates in the weeks ahead, so stay tuned for more.

Aside from that, the game will still host a plethora of (seasonal) events, log in campaigns, etc.

The only things really ending are the major storylines and game console support (per March/April 2016).

[peculiar]

I thought the november update was the final one and everything after would just be minor bug fixes and balancing. But on the front page we have

"Announcing the Next Version Update (16/11/2015)
The next version update is scheduled for early December.

Scheduled for the upcoming patch are further festivities in Geas Fete with powerful notorious monsters, and further steps in the aeonic weapon questline, culminating in the completion of the weapons themselves. New emotes and Unity outfits are on the docket as well! "


So what exactly is or isnt happen with this games future support?

They have always been an odd company, their communication has always been bad. Like terribly bad.

It either means that they simply don't want to make any more expansion packs for ffxi and still plan to update the game on a tri-monthly basis as they always did or or that we are getting a few updates past that date and then they will cease.

Who knows.

[Fahzewn]

It's possible they weren't able to get everything ready in time for the November update and December's would be a continuation of it.

[Rubicant82]

The only things ending are: Main Story lines & non-PC support. That is it. Everything else is staying the same. We will be getting new high tier battle fields (I assume that eventually there will be a high tier for ever event battle field we have), there is goign to be job adjustments, tweeks, creeks, nerfs, buffs, etc. Basically anything they can do that doesn't take up a lot of time (new new stuff). Expect armor re-skins for new gear, but no Vana' shattering changes. If we have it in game now, and it can be augments in some way it might be. That is the future. The adventures will continue until the servers shut down.... hopefully sometime in the far far far away future.

[Angemon]

I think they changed their mind halfway after they realized people were NOT going to pay the same sub price for 0 new additions. So now they have to come up with anything to try and keep those people subscribed as they probably realize by now they wont be moving to XIV.

[Zarchery]

They have always been an odd company, their communication has always been bad. Like terribly bad.

It either means that they simply don't want to make any more expansion packs for ffxi and still plan to update the game on a tri-monthly basis as they always did or or that we are getting a few updates past that date and then they will cease.

Who knows.

They were very clear and held a big recorded Q&A session earlier this year. It was never their intention to completely and totally walk away from all updates and abandon this game forever after November 2015. The intention was ALWAYS to stop major updates. But disinformation crept in so everyone thought they were.

[YosemiteYogorockBlondelle]

I think they changed their mind halfway after they realized people were NOT going to <{sorry in advance, angemon but only snipping a lil bit here on yuh}> So now they have to come up with anything to try and keep those people subscribed as they probably realize by now they won't be moving to XIV.

I could believe it being this but who knows entirely for sure too as I know most to be a final other than the usual sometime in march 2016 but oddly enough I did find just recently a Mr.Happy YouTube Video on him discussing over it a bit as well. "Not" really related but I found his Thank you YouTube video by Mr.Happy Fun to watch in addition to his Discussion over FFXI's coming to a close? video.

[Zumi]

Finally played till the end of FFXI. That pretty much felt like the end to me and felt like a nice end for my FFXI character. I liked the last missions a lot was a nice way to end the game. But I am off to play FFXIV now pretty much feels like the continuation of the Final Fantasy series.

[YosemiteYogorockBlondelle]

Upon zoning into an area such as my blondelle character did using the stairway from upper jeuno into Ru'Lude Gardens just a lil bit ago around 12:15am-CST time'ish, you get nothing but a Black screen and then after maybe about a minute or two you finally get a msg that says: No Response from the FFXI Server, please shutdown game but after clicking okay, Your presented back at the character selection screen. :eek: Anyone same thing??


Seems to be the zones of Upper Jeuno and Ru'lude gardens on leviathan server having server problems as it has just done it again at around 1:05am-CST time with Error Code: FFXI-4001, No Response From The FINAL FANTASY XI server. Connection Timed Out. Press OK to shut down. ..But Before that there were Linkshell member search failures and not positive but even a AH search failure once. I wanted to test to see if it would do it again to me after seeing those search failures by just zoning out of mh this time back over to the Upper Jeuno Side and sure enough it did it again. "Anyways I hope with the future of FFXI, I hope these become a thing of the past!." :o

[Alhanelem]

I thought the november update was the final one and everything after would just be minor bug fixes and balancing. But on the front page we haveMajor updates will continue until console service ends. After that, there will still be minor updates, including content (Stuff they can add without changing any game code) into the future.

[Angemon]

Major updates will continue until console service ends. After that, there will still be minor updates, including content (Stuff they can add without changing any game code) into the future.

That is incorrect actually, they stated major updates would cease after the NOV update. Now they are saying we will get new battlefields every month and such. Never was it stated major updates will continue until console service ends (which is in march 2016.)

[KineticSoul]

Since they are dropping console support entirely, can we can expect any kind of technical improvements? Like larger draw distances for the environment?

I read about something called "windower" that will do that, but I am always skeptical of third-party software.

[Catmato]

Since they are dropping console support entirely, can we can expect any kind of technical improvements? Like larger draw distances for the environment?

I read about something called "windower" that will do that, but I am always skeptical of third-party software.

DirectX limitations.

[KineticSoul]

DirectX limitations.

Read: The bane of my existence. That bites. But if that's the issue how is it that Windower does it? We've dropped all this dead weight. It would be nice to see some kind of improvements since we don't have PS2 users to worry about.

I was really excited when I heard they were dropping console support. It sucks it has to come with a cutback in development and stuff as well. Either way, if I can, I'm going to be playing this until the sun burns out and the Milky Way goes dark and cold. VIVA LA VANA'DIEL!

[Catmato]

I was being sarcastic. If they can't blame PS2 anymore, they need a new scapegoat.

[KineticSoul]

I was being sarcastic. If they can't blame PS2 anymore, they need a new scapegoat.

It can be hard to catch sarcasm through text, plus I'm not tech savvy when it comes to stuff like DirectX. They are making those phone ports though, so... scapegoat?


I will always worry about PS2 users! XD

Admittedly, I started on PS2, so I'm not entirely without a bit of a soft spot, but even I can admit they should have dropped support for that years ago. It was never designed to do what they did with it. The fact that they managed it is a marvel in itself. I remember getting that huge box with the PS2 HDD extension. Lol! I went through hell getting it all to work, but it was so worth it!

[peculiar]

I was being sarcastic. If they can't blame PS2 anymore, they need a new scapegoat.


They don't need a scapegoat anymore, they just say no. The days when they cared what we think are long, long gone.

[YosemiteYogorockBlondelle]

...But here is what he discussed with this youtube video of his for ffxi back in the time of posting of March 2015 and i'm going to say that I think a lot has changed for future of ffxi since his posited RIP FFXI video (https://youtu.be/Z7pLd-bk0uo)? :D :p

Note: I was just going to edit this video into the previous post of mine too. Oh, by the way found Mr. Happy's "Thank You!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp_Q9NMAQho)" youtube video too! ;-)

[Zehira]

I think they changed their mind halfway after they realized people were NOT going to pay the same sub price for 0 new additions. So now they have to come up with anything to try and keep those people subscribed as they probably realize by now they wont be moving to XIV.

Yesss... I hope so. I got really tired of FFXIV and the community feels too different even I have never played WoW.

Went to the official FFXIV forum and read the thread of Bunny ears for men and closed it... So disappointed. FFXI will always the best MMO for me as long as people are still playing it.

[KineticSoul]

Yesss... I hope so. I got really tired of FFXIV and the community feels too different even I have never played WoW.

Went to the official FFXIV forum and read the thread of Bunny ears for men and closed it... So disappointed. FFXI will always the best MMO for me as long as people are still playing it.

I am recently returning here from FFXIV and this game is such a breath of fresh air. FFXIV is so homogenized and it makes everything feel so generic. I'm always doing something, but I never feel like I'm accomplishing anything. The community is awful and completely divided between "elitists" and "casuals". Nobody will think twice to look at or talk to you where in this game, I started up and in 10 minutes someone walks up, starts talking to me, gives me some starting gil and shows me some of the changes; such as being able to get linkshells from concierges. Now I'm in a Linkshell with awesome people who help me level, hunt, and unlock things so I can join them in end-game. This community is fantastic. With console support dropping I really wish they'd take the opportunity to dig in and make this the game it always could have/should have been on PC. Sorry for the rant, but I am just loving this game and everything about it

[Angemon]

My friend just came from XIV too, its strange ppl are coming back saying the same thing lol

[Naraku_Diabolos]

I play FFXIV and just decided to come back to FFXI. I was in La Theine Plateau and I zoned to Ronfaure. I don't even feel like getting to San d'Oria because the game just feels so archaic. Meh, it feels dead to me on Carbuncle. No one is on it. One day during the evening there was only around 300-some people online. It's pathetic. If you think FFXIV has nothing to do, you are wrong. There's enough content, but FFXI has years of it. There's so much content in FFXI it is overwhelming at times, and it's a shame that the game is now streamlined and all past content (Sky and Sea) is now dead. All of it died pre-Abyssea before the level cap went to 99. I don't even mind the grinding on FFXIV, and I haven't had anyone be mean to me in the Duty Finder at all.

"People on the FFXIV forum complaining that male character's can't have bunny ears." That's a glamour issue, the game isn't strange. There's too much gear on FFXI, and it's more streamlined. The progression may be vertical, but you upgrade your iLvl so you are stronger. There's less fluff with weapons, tools, gear, and such. Sure it may not have the "Dual Wield +2%" or whatnot stuff for customizing, but who needs that? FFXI was a game ahead of its time, but now time has caught up to it and it's very archaic. You guys are playing the original Pokémon games on GameBoy while us on FFXIV are playing the new games on the 3DS. "The original 151 are the best!" So? You're playing with old characters on an old format. Those "old" characters are in the new game (meaning content from FFXI to FFXIV) but with more beefed up stats, forms, and abilities. You people have to grow up and face the facts that FFXI is old and it's time to move onto something new, such as its successor. You may not like it yourself, but there are more people who talk about FFXIV than FFXI now.

Once the original FFXIV 1.0 was released, I went to it, supported it, watched it changed, became satisfied, and NEVER looked back into going further in FFXI.

[Umisame]

I play FFXIV and just decided to come back to FFXI. I was in La Theine Plateau and I zoned to Ronfaure. I don't even feel like getting to San d'Oria because the game just feels so archaic. Meh, it feels dead to me on Carbuncle. No one is on it. One day during the evening there was only around 300-some people online. It's pathetic. If you think FFXIV has nothing to do, you are wrong. There's enough content, but FFXI has years of it. There's so much content in FFXI it is overwhelming at times, and it's a shame that the game is now streamlined and all past content (Sky and Sea) is now dead. All of it died pre-Abyssea before the level cap went to 99. I don't even mind the grinding on FFXIV, and I haven't had anyone be mean to me in the Duty Finder at all.

"People on the FFXIV forum complaining that male character's can't have bunny ears." That's a glamour issue, the game isn't strange. There's too much gear on FFXI, and it's more streamlined. The progression may be vertical, but you upgrade your iLvl so you are stronger. There's less fluff with weapons, tools, gear, and such. Sure it may not have the "Dual Wield +2%" or whatnot stuff for customizing, but who needs that? FFXI was a game ahead of its time, but now time has caught up to it and it's very archaic. You guys are playing the original Pokémon games on GameBoy while us on FFXIV are playing the new games on the 3DS. "The original 151 are the best!" So? You're playing with old characters on an old format. Those "old" characters are in the new game (meaning content from FFXI to FFXIV) but with more beefed up stats, forms, and abilities. You people have to grow up and face the facts that FFXI is old and it's time to move onto something new, such as its successor. You may not like it yourself, but there are more people who talk about FFXIV than FFXI now.

Once the original FFXIV 1.0 was released, I went to it, supported it, watched it changed, became satisfied, and NEVER looked back into going further in FFXI.


I started to play ffxiv 1.0 when it was released for two months and at the end of it too, ffxiv 2.0 was a great change and the game become very fun to play but after a few updates it gets very repetitive with vertical grind each 6 months, making content old very soon. Between 2.5 and 3.0 game was really boring, 5-6 months waiting for an update was very bad. And now 3.0 is following the same way with updates like in 2.0, i hope Yoshida improves ffxiv 4.0 and make it evolve again. At the moment im not going to play it more than 1 month every 6.

I came back to ffxi 2 months ago and im having much more fun than in ffxiv.
I dont know how many times i returned to FFXI, atm i changed to Asura server and im having a lot of good times, i have been in other servers and seems that Asura has very active english population.

FFXI has something special that i dont find in other games that makes me allways come back to it.

[cengeal]

I play FFXIV and just decided to come back to FFXI. I was in La Theine Plateau and I zoned to Ronfaure. I don't even feel like getting to San d'Oria because the game just feels so archaic. Meh, it feels dead to me on Carbuncle. No one is on it. One day during the evening there was only around 300-some people online. It's pathetic. If you think FFXIV has nothing to do, you are wrong. There's enough content, but FFXI has years of it. There's so much content in FFXI it is overwhelming at times, and it's a shame that the game is now streamlined and all past content (Sky and Sea) is now dead. All of it died pre-Abyssea before the level cap went to 99. I don't even mind the grinding on FFXIV, and I haven't had anyone be mean to me in the Duty Finder at all.

"People on the FFXIV forum complaining that male character's can't have bunny ears." That's a glamour issue, the game isn't strange. There's too much gear on FFXI, and it's more streamlined. The progression may be vertical, but you upgrade your iLvl so you are stronger. There's less fluff with weapons, tools, gear, and such. Sure it may not have the "Dual Wield +2%" or whatnot stuff for customizing, but who needs that? FFXI was a game ahead of its time, but now time has caught up to it and it's very archaic. You guys are playing the original Pokémon games on GameBoy while us on FFXIV are playing the new games on the 3DS. "The original 151 are the best!" So? You're playing with old characters on an old format. Those "old" characters are in the new game (meaning content from FFXI to FFXIV) but with more beefed up stats, forms, and abilities. You people have to grow up and face the facts that FFXI is old and it's time to move onto something new, such as its successor. You may not like it yourself, but there are more people who talk about FFXIV than FFXI now.

Once the original FFXIV 1.0 was released, I went to it, supported it, watched it changed, became satisfied, and NEVER looked back into going further in FFXI.

This hit the nail on the head. A lot of people in my LS claim that ffxiv is dying and that xi is thriving. This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have heard a ffxi player say. It is anything but true. I still love this game, but there is far too much to do. Ffxi has more content than xiv, but 80% or more of the content in xi is completely antiquated. The amount of grinding that you have to do detracts from the fun.

5 expansions, 6 add ons including abyssea, and now RoV. Most of The expansion mission lines are only relevant because you need them to progress in RoV. The 3 non abyssea add ons are almost completely pointless. There's not even RoE objectives for doing them. The amount of pointless content in this game is staggering.

[Zehira]

You people have to grow up and face the facts that FFXI is old and it's time to move onto something new, such as its successor. You may not like it yourself, but there are more people who talk about FFXIV than FFXI now.

Yeah, people like you always move onto something new like fantasia potions, new names, glamours, and... world transfer. I have had many idiots like that and that's enough. More than half of members won't ever talk, fortunately, I have about five awesome friends in my FC and linkshell I own that aren't going to make a world transfer or quit until the next patch.

One of my friends once told me... "Are you done with that old game?? Let's do more repeatable dungeons to gear up!" Seriously? I have finished the patch 3.1 story and it was too short. I am still waiting for plots to open up for me to buy a house and how long more do I have to wait?? I am just sitting there selling many accessories I crafted and supporting my friends for their needs.

After I came back to FFXI, my friends still remember me from a few years ago?? Wow! I met their friends.. That's why I said I like FFXI's community better whether it's small or not.

[odericko]

I play FFXIV and just decided to come back to FFXI. I was in La Theine Plateau and I zoned to Ronfaure. I don't even feel like getting to San d'Oria because the game just feels so archaic. Meh, it feels dead to me on Carbuncle. No one is on it. One day during the evening there was only around 300-some people online. It's pathetic. If you think FFXIV has nothing to do, you are wrong. There's enough content, but FFXI has years of it. There's so much content in FFXI it is overwhelming at times, and it's a shame that the game is now streamlined and all past content (Sky and Sea) is now dead. All of it died pre-Abyssea before the level cap went to 99. I don't even mind the grinding on FFXIV, and I haven't had anyone be mean to me in the Duty Finder at all.

"People on the FFXIV forum complaining that male character's can't have bunny ears." That's a glamour issue, the game isn't strange. There's too much gear on FFXI, and it's more streamlined. The progression may be vertical, but you upgrade your iLvl so you are stronger. There's less fluff with weapons, tools, gear, and such. Sure it may not have the "Dual Wield +2%" or whatnot stuff for customizing, but who needs that? FFXI was a game ahead of its time, but now time has caught up to it and it's very archaic. You guys are playing the original Pokémon games on GameBoy while us on FFXIV are playing the new games on the 3DS. "The original 151 are the best!" So? You're playing with old characters on an old format. Those "old" characters are in the new game (meaning content from FFXI to FFXIV) but with more beefed up stats, forms, and abilities. You people have to grow up and face the facts that FFXI is old and it's time to move onto something new, such as its successor. You may not like it yourself, but there are more people who talk about FFXIV than FFXI now.

Once the original FFXIV 1.0 was released, I went to it, supported it, watched it changed, became satisfied, and NEVER looked back into going further in FFXI.

As someone who plays both XI and XIV (with a legacy account), I can't help but read this post as someone trying to convince themselves XI is over for whatever reason.

Ever since XIV became the gear treadmill it is now I can't help but lose interest in playing. That's why I came back to XI and gave it another shot. Already let my XIV sub lapse and plan on sticking around here to complete all the content I missed out on from when XIV launched.

[Alhanelem]

That is incorrect actually, they stated major updates would cease after the NOV update. Now they are saying we will get new battlefields every month and such. Never was it stated major updates will continue until console service ends (which is in march 2016.)
It's not incorrect, judging by the upcoming updates. This is subjective, really, but if new superweapons and updates to all the existing ones isn't a major update, I don't know what is.

[Apie]

As someone who plays both XI and XIV (with a legacy account), I can't help but read this post as someone trying to convince themselves XI is over for whatever reason.

Ever since XIV became the gear treadmill it is now I can't help but lose interest in playing. That's why I came back to XI and gave it another shot. Already let my XIV sub lapse and plan on sticking around here to complete all the content I missed out on from when XIV launched.

Hi, nice to see another person with Legacy that still has love for ffxi (I thought I was the only one. lol) I never let me ffxi subscription end (except the one month where the ffxi payment system rejected my payment and instead of letting me pay with another card, it blocked me out for a month...of which the gear the was offered that month on the repeat login was never offered again...still pissed about this MONTHS later...) and I played without stop on ffxiv 1.0-1.23b. I've seen both games change, ffxi changing since launch til now and ffxiv 1.0-3.1 or whatever we are on now.

Just like you I find myself with a TON to do in ffxiv, yet I am getting sick and tired of it. The main scenario DRAGS like crazy, hundreds of pointless main quests, such as talk to 2 people, quest done, bring me this one item from one person to another, quest done. I know that doesn't sound too bad, but when it takes HUNDREDS of these just to give your mule access to the new jobs is a joke. I've spent the last 2 weeks getting mules from starting to the last 2.0 quest (which is still FAR away from 3.0 where the jobs are, not to mention that I'm skipping every cutscene and dailog and it's STILL dragging.) Nothing but busy work. And to make things worse is SE lied about the personal housing, it will cost 800K they said, they said you can play the main scenario and be able to afford it by the time you finish 2.0. Nice lie, but personal housing costs 5 Million at the very least (and if nobody buys it in months, then you get a discount.)

Anyway, last night wife and I got our tax refund and we decided we would spend a little real life money buying some of the things they have for sale on there for in-game items. I couldn't freakin believe it. They sell the outfits for main-NPC characters and they charge $8 an outfit ($15 for one that comes with a hairstyle) and all are sex-specific and most outfits are a 1-2 pieces so you can't even break up the outfits and they only go to 1 character on your account (even though most people can have up to 8 characters per account.) Then they sell event items, for $3-$5 a piece per character, so if the event you missed had 5 items, expect to pay ~$20 for just 1 of your characters to have the items missed. Are they for real? $12-$25 for mounts... Then we decided to check out the plush and soundtracks/blurays they sell with bonus items. $40 and above for a RL thing with an ingame code...

So I decided last night to just cut the crap. FFXIV's needless grind to get to 3.0 content (yes I know it makes sense to wait that long cause the game's story has to lead to the new town Ishgard but it's still not right, SE writes the story so they could have made the new town/jobs accessible from the start, which is what they promised before the expansion was released, yet they changed it and they chose to force you to grind hundreds of busy-work quests to access something as basic as a new job) and overcharging RL money for ingame items was the last straw. I do not have the love for SE like I did years ago (man do i regret getting Final Fantasy tattooed in Japanese on my arm) and this abuse of fans is just the reminder I needed of how SE treats it's fans/customers.

The only reason I'm not quitting FFXIV is because my wife would hate me if I did that, she loves it cause it's all pretty and the outfits are all pretty, etc... But I have to be honest, I much rather play Pong than FFXIV at this point. However, FFXI doesn't seem to piss me off like FFXIV does. FFXI has done nothing but improved as time passes. Trusts were the best thing to happen to FFXI since it launched and SE had enough sense to pass the lvl75 nonsense they were stuck on for years. FFXI is just fun now and everything (most everything) is accessible solo, no need to spent most of the day gathering people to do 10 minutes of content. No needing to stop what you are doing to help LS members do content, nope, everyone can do what they want, pretty much when they want. Gil now flows like water in FFXI, so no more being too poor to afford the nice things. Nobody farms NMs anymore so no competition there. Even the pointlessly level-capped CoP areas were no longer capped. Yes I know most of these changes are years old by now, but it still has made giant (and significant) positive changes. Hell, even the moghouse had a second floor added with more room to design the house as you see fit. (My only complaint is that you can't have the second floor of the moghouse be the main floor. Seeing as how you have to tell the door that you want to go to the second floor makes the second floor a extremely rare visit.)

I just realized there is no point to my post lol Thanks for reading. It might not help you, but it helped me to post my thoughts. Almost therapeutic. :) Well time to log into ffxiv, as much as it angers me, my to do list is just too big to not log in... kill me...