Old rare gear you would like Upgraded

[Crocker]

By this I mean pre-abyssea 75 or under and not gear that will be upgraded like the sky stuff via synergy. Would also like to keep crafted gear off the list as well with maybe a few exceptions like hard to get HQ gear like Dusk Gloves +1.



Weapons:
Thief's Knife
Ermine's Tail
Sirocco Kukri
Joyeuse
Seawolf Cudgel
Sea Robber Cudgel
Nightmare Sword
Ungur Boomerang
Dryad Staff/Healing staff
Kraken Club
Ridill
Juggernaut
Valkyrie's Fork
Bahamut's Staff
Kirin's Pole
Avatar weapons (aka Garuda's Dagger, Ifrits Blade, ect)
Sky weapons (aka Byakko's Axe, Scarecrow Scythe, ect)
KS30 weapons (aka Heart Snatcher, Destroyers, ect)


Shields:
Tatami Shield


Armor:
Maat's Cap
Optical Hat
Patroclus's Helm
Resentment Cape
Reverend Mail
Leaping Boots/Bounding Boots
Emperor Hairpin/Empress Hairpin
Peacock Charm/Peacock Amulet
Hydra gear (Dynamis Tavnazia)
Adaman Hauberk
Rain Hat
Rostrum Pumps
Speed Belt/Velocious Belt
Relic Accessories
Yinyang robe
Limbus Gear (Homam, Nashira, Ancient Beastcoin buyable gear)
Cursed type gear (aka Dalmacata, Crimson Cuisses, ect)

Rings/Earrings:
Omega Ring
Rajas Ring
Sattva Ring
Tamas Ring
Evoker's Ring
Bloodbead Ring
Shadow Ring
Shadow Mantle
Defending Ring
Novio Earring
Balrahn's Ring
Ulthalam's Ring
Jalzahn's Ring
Abyssal Earring
Beastly Earring
Bushinomimi
Knight's Earring
Suppanomimi

[RAIST]

oohh...augmented evoker's and CoP rings.... <drool>

I like how this is starting out... but... you pretty much covered every thing for me.

[Kensagaku]

Some of those items I don't feel need to be upgraded. Couple of examples from your list:

Joyeuse - we have OAT and OA2-4 weapons from ToM, not to mention the Sea Weapons that are easy to fuel. Same reason we don't get a Bronze Sword with upgrades; we have new stuff to replace the old as levels increase.

OHat - this still has superior stats, even looking at the new Empyrean Armor. I can't think of a single piece that has Evasion AND Acc+10 on it off of the top of my head, which will still have a lot of use outside of Abyssea when we get to the 90-99 cap.

Leaping Boots/Bounding Boots - We have Lithe Boots, which are doubled the stats, same slot. See Joytoy - new stuff replaces the old as you level.

Peacock Charm/Amulet - I have yet to see anything that offers higher bonuses in Acc/R.acc on a neck piece. Doesn't need a boost.

Speed Belt/Vbelt - Twilight Belt/Bullwhip Belt. DRK can still use Speed/Vbelt, or go to Hoard, but again, there are already upgrades.

Evoker's Ring - Summoning Magic doesn't exist on a ring slot anywhere else, nor does Perp cost-. Again, doesn't need a boost when it already is a unique and potent item for an unusual slot.

These are just a few examples, but overall, I don't think Rare gear needs to be updated for the most part... most of it gets replaced in time by superior gear.

[RAIST]

Some of those items I don't feel need to be upgraded. Couple of examples from your list:

Evoker's Ring - Summoning Magic doesn't exist on a ring slot anywhere else, nor does Perp cost-. Again, doesn't need a boost when it already is a unique and potent item for an unusual slot...

...These are just a few examples, but overall, I don't think Rare gear needs to be updated for the most part... most of it gets replaced in time by superior gear.

Good points. Now that I think about it more, something like Evoker's ring might be the odd exception. I am still using it on my SMN--haven't managed to get anything better for that slot yet. In this one particular instance, I could maybe see justifying a way to augment it somehow. Maybe just a little tweak like maybe more mp, or a light Spell Interupt Down or something--like augments you would get from the faye fights?

[Karbuncle]

We have a new Sirocco Kukri too D: Called Rapidus Sax!

[Jalonis]

Nothing, old gear should stay old.

[hiko]

- Balrahn's Ring, Ulthalam's Ring, and Jalzahn's Ring, ??? apraised item (remove "assault/salvage :" limitation)
- Glory crown
- cop ring, ZM earring (base stat increase)
- Relic accessories
- Black Belt

[Kensagaku]

- Balrahn's Ring, Ulthalam's Ring, and Jalzahn's Ring, ??? apraised item (remove "assault/salvage :" limitation)
- Glory crown
- cop ring, ZM earring (base stat increase)
- Relic accessories
- Black Belt

1) I agree the ToAU rings could use a bit of a boost. Honestly, they're pretty useless aside from assault/salvage nowadays.

2) CoP Ring, ZM earring - em... not so much. They have a lot of stats to them for the most part that keeps them unique and useful even in the new Abyssea areas. I still get plenty of use out of my Rajas/Ethereal Earring on a number of jobs.

3) Relic Accessories have been upgraded by Empyreal Accessories. Some of them are still useful in situations though.

4) No. It already has the highest amount of Haste on any gear piece (12%!), the highest PDT on a waist piece, and a huge amount of strength plus some Subtle Blow to boot. And it's only level 70. It requires a lot of work, but most certainly doesn't need an upgrade!

[Cenz]

VALKS FORK!! Just cause its sexy and was dumb rare ....

[Karbuncle]

On the Topic of Relic Accessories. None of the Empyrean Accessories share the same slot as a Relic Accessory, So Upgrading Relic Acc Wouldn't outdate Empyrean ones at least :)!

[Zaknafein]

Duelist's Belt. There is a +7 int, and Mnd abyssea belt, and heirarch for hmp. One of the nice things about rdm acc belt was that it melded the int mnd and hmp. Now to stay current rdm's are expected to carry the 2 +7 ones and rdm belt... booo. The 80 slots is already not feasible to carry your various nuke,enfeeble,Tp/WS,haste/cure gear without having 3 belts.

[Crocker]

Remember these are just idea's of stuff they could add to Trial of Magian or the new Synergy Augments if enough people push for it maybe a few of these items can be added who wouldn't want more base dmg at the very least to Thief Knife?

Thief Knife - Trial: Proc additional effect TH on 300 beastmen that give exp.


We have a new Sirocco Kukri too D: Called Rapidus Sax!
The Sirocco Kukri is a pain to get took a lot of work maybe a simple augment of DMG +6 on it would be awesome.
Rapidus Sax is a 100% drop from an Abyssea NM not saying it isnt good (90 THF I usually use triplus dagger) but the effort to get it is very easy in comparison.


Leaping Boots/Bounding Boots - We have Lithe Boots, which are doubled the stats, same slot.
Technically Leaping boots have an upgrade through Crafting so stuff like that could be off the list but bounding boots do not they have to be earned so maybe a simple augment of more DEF would be great.(1 less than the crafted ones)
Your comparing level 7 gear with level 78 that's silly making level 7 gear have a few more def wouldn't be game breaking at all and could use on multiple low jobs small tweaks to low gear like that could give you a better chance at living since traditional parties don't happen much. Empress Hairpin they could add 3 DEF to it, yes it isn't much but better than nothing and where would +4 DEF between those 2 items be bad?

[Alhanelem]

Old rare gear you would like Upgraded None. I want new gear, thanks. But what's with that list? Why does thief knife need to be upgraded? It's only purpose is TH.... It doesn't need better stats to serve its purpose.


Your comparing level 7 gear with level 78 that's silly making level 7 gear have a few more def wouldn't be game breaking at alThose items already have extremely good stats for their level, way, way better than anything else, and adding anything more to them would make them even more so. Low level gear needs no changes.

[Karbuncle]

I got my SIrocco Kukri after camping the NM for 8 Straight hours, It popped nearly 5 hours AFTER its window closed. Despite Wind weather actually aprearing during his window in which he did not pop in, and the was only the day it finally dropped. I camped it a few times before then against others.

And I can let it die. Anyone should be able to as well :\ If its Augment able through Synergy I'll probably give it a wack, but right now I'm using Twil/Trip combo and i don't see very much changing that short of a Relic/etc

[Miiyo]

If evolith wouldn't have sucked so bad, it'd be really easy for se to implement a way to upgrade past items via synergy.

[Karbuncle]

If evolith wouldn't have sucked so bad, it'd be really easy for se to implement a way to upgrade past items via synergy.

Oh god Evolith, That failure system makes me depressed even today.

It had a good idea (Hunts, Etching, Etc) But it just died in the water cause the majority of the armor was terrible base, and the Evolith Augments were entirely too situational to be useful.

I thought the funniest insult was 1 minute off a 2hour.

[Crocker]

Why does thief knife need to be upgraded? It's only purpose is TH.... It doesn't need better stats to serve its purpose.
I said very least Base damage. SE could make it level 90 with TH+2 and 40 base dmg via magian or with synergy could add something like 3% haste. As a THF im always using Thief knife off hand relic+1 gloves and +2 AF3 feet. Yes I know swap gear out after 1st proc but you lose tp changing weapons.

There must be some old gear you just cant get yourself to toss that would be great for some form of upgrade?! Doesn't have to be high level or have endgame use, might just be an extra bonus to level some of your lowbie jobs without resorting to abyssea leeching.

1 min off 2hr ya that's just a slap in the face!

[Kiba]

armor
Hachiryu set
Hydra Gear as mentioned
Valhalla Gear

[Miiyo]

I thought the funniest insult was 1 minute off a 2hour.
I facepalmed when i saw that. I was really hoping they'd do well with evolith... I guess, if you think about it, if you take all 5 evolith body pieces, you can put 1 minute off on all of them and you have a total of 5 WHOLE MINS off of your 2 hr. It could be a macro piece. I understood that in all actuality, you can't make great evolith because you really have up to 45 different evolith options(3 per piece and 3 different colors). What they did attempt was a bit... sad? But yeah, i loved the implementation (hunts and synergy). It was really why I leveled synergy in the first place.

[Coldbrand]

AF
Relic
Mini Expansion Gear
Optical Hat
Ridill
Abjuration Sets

[Bayohne]

Make sure you all stay tuned for the announcements coming up!

[Karbuncle]

Don't tease us like this! GIMME T3H INFO ;;

[Bayohne]

Don't tease us like this! GIMME T3H INFO ;;

Tease, tease, tease!

[Fiarlia]

Tease, tease, tease!

I laughed. An honest to goodness real life laugh.

Then I realized he was teasing and I was sad. :(

[Karbuncle]

/wrists!

Now I'm all excited.

[CrystalWeapon]

Tease, tease, tease!

Gave me a good laugh.

I get the same feeling waiting for the massive updates as I do waiting for a new console. I can't wait to see it all in more detail.

[Myrid]

I can really only think of two needed upgrades/replacements:
- Joyeuse - particularly for COR, which can't use magian daggers or swords.. or just give some other oatwice+ melee weapon to Corsairs.
- Thief knife - since th+1 is not on any other weapon, 27 damage is very lacking nowadays even for offhand, and swapping weapons after applying TH is annoying because of TP loss.


I don't necessarily think the old gear has to be upgradable... rather new gear that fills the same niche that the old stuff did would be nice. Most things mentioned in this thread already have their niches filled (or are still overpowered in their own right).

[Thala]

One thing I was really disappointed to see (or more accurately, not see) in December was the CoP rings updated to be 2~6. Seems silly with the way they're designed to not be incremented again at 90.

[Rezeak]

I'd love to use my algol agian :(

[Miiyo]

Why did they have to make a post after I made a partially negative comment @.@ I blame Krab nuckle for bringing up the 1 hr evolith!

[Ohji_Lunartail]

Tbh the lv 40ish AF wepons. Would love to see em as the base weapons for new legendary weapons rivaling the Emperyan ones

[Karbuncle]

Tbh the lv 40ish AF wepons. Would love to see em as the base weapons for new legendary weapons rivaling the Emperyan ones

There was actually quite a few threads made on that in the Job-Specific Section. You could dig up em :)

[azjazo]

Yinyang robe, was a PAIN to get, can we have it upgraded and... reskin it so it doesnt look like MNK gear???

[Karbuncle]

I must have been Lucky with Yinyang Robe. It was the Easies tNM i have ever camped, and i went 1/1 on the Drop.

I mean, it has a 15 minute window. It was magnificently Easy. But i do recall some horror stories of Massive camp wars on it.

[Bayohne]

Yinyang robe, was a PAIN to get, can we have it upgraded and... reskin it so it doesnt look like MNK gear???

Make it look like SAM gear? You got it!

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Make it look like SAM gear? You got it!Make it out of fish instead.

[Mirage]

It would be awesome if yinyang robe looked like a domaruuuuu

[Tsukino_Kaji]

It would be awesome if yinyang robe looked like a domaruuuuuWHMs in full plate, SMNs in domarus, next we'll have PLDs in tutus.

[Alhanelem]

Yinyang robe, was a PAIN to get, can we have it upgraded and... reskin it so it doesnt look like MNK gear???
Or just forget about it, since empy body +2 is way better. part of the reason I refused to get that robe is because it doesn't look like something a SMN would wear. Now that's no longer a problem.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Or just forget about it, since empy body +2 is way better. part of the reason I refused to get that robe is because it doesn't look like something a SMN would wear. Now that's no longer a problem.You just want the big fluffy pimp collar, admit it.

[Shibayama]

Tbh the lv 40ish AF wepons. Would love to see em as the base weapons for new legendary weapons rivaling the Emperyan ones

No thanks. I would prefer not getting the legendary Chakram or the legendary spell.

[Jakary]

Make it look like SAM gear? You got it!

<3 community rep team =D

[Harukusan]

Or just forget about it, since empy body +2 is way better. part of the reason I refused to get that robe is because it doesn't look like something a SMN would wear. Now that's no longer a problem.

BP delay.


The Sirocco Kukri is a pain to get took a lot of work maybe a simple augment of DMG +6 on it would be awesome.
Rapidus Sax is a 100% drop from an Abyssea NM not saying it isnt good (90 THF I usually use triplus dagger) but the effort to get it is very easy in comparison.

Dropped that forever ago. I'm hoping that I won't regret the fact that I dropped tons of other old gear. Not that it matters. If any significant, game-breaking changes ever occurred to outdated equipment, it's nothing considerably difficult to re-obtain. Sure maybe some things take a little extra time to camp, but it wasn't challenging in any way. Much like the old king camps with 21-24 hour respawns, I went, I saw, I got my free points, and during this time I was able to read, play other games, cook dinners, and best of all enjoy my beer. :)

[azjazo]

Or just forget about it, since empy body +2 is way better. part of the reason I refused to get that robe is because it doesn't look like something a SMN would wear. Now that's no longer a problem.

emm you could say that from almost any gear against the Empy +2, so this thread would be useless altogether by that logic -.- And I would take the SAM look any time if it means to change the look of the robe.

[azjazo]

Make it look like SAM gear? You got it!

Yes, please! you better keep that promise! Im gonna be watching you!

[Caria]

Yinyang robe, was a PAIN to get, can we have it upgraded and... reskin it so it doesnt look like MNK gear???

If we were going to reskin the YYR, reskin it to look like either Yuna's robe (FFX) or Rydia's gear (FFIV)! Not that I expect there to be a lot of reskinning going on. It would be a lot of effort for very minimal effect, which makes it very unlikely, given the responses already given by the dev team. (At the same time, the community has already done some reskinning of things on their own (against EULA, of course) and and I wonder if SE has ever looked at just integrating some of what they did? Seems like copying some of that stuff would be much less time consuming than developing new ones on their own.

[Dew]

Adamantoise Statue needs upgrade! The turtle is too small. :P

[Bulrogg]

A quest to further upgrade the Job Gesture neck pieces? Or at least let us store them :)

[Karbuncle]

A quest to further upgrade the Job Gesture neck pieces? Or at least let us store them :)

This actually, They should let us Upgrade those Job necklaces :) They all had some really good concepts behind them.

Also, I must be the only SMN alive who loved how Yinyang robe Meshed with the rest of my armor. Truthfully i once saw this neat .dat online once of "Fenrir's Robe" it was YYrobe model in Fenrir's colors. It was neat, even has his glow.

Either way, SMN should still get it, If only for the BP Delay. I think YYrobe is one of the best pieces for BP Delay (-5? i think, thats 33% of your BP delay cap).

[Dais]

You just want the big fluffy pimp collar, admit it.

I think we all want a fine violet suit with golden leopard-print lapels, matching spats and chapeau with an extravagant plume, and a fine crystal chalice and scepter. ...but some dreams may never be.

I would actually like some of the more exotic equipment alternatives brought up to be competitive once more. I felt just a bit special when I was the 1 in 1000 DDs to wear a divisor ring rather than a sniper+1. Anything from assaults or mmm (among hundreds of other items I'm sure) would qualify since it is excruciating to get them to drop.

[Urteil]

Make new Gear, don't allow SE to be more lazy than it already is.

[Karbuncle]

Can agree New gear would be wonderful. I Think SE is allowing some old gear to be Augmentable because of some of the complaints about it becoming outdated.

I don't really share that complain, When i hit 80 I was all too happy to dispose of the same gear i had been wearing for years. (Well, not Dispose, its all stored now).

Some items i still keep on for Sentimental reasons like my Sirroco Kukri, But i won't be upset if they never upgrade them. I personally love new armor, New designs/etc. Something new to look at and fit into a Set.

[Shoko]

Make new Gear, don't allow SE to be more lazy than it already is.

PS2 Limitations.

[Soundwave]

Make it look like SAM gear? You got it!

While you at it...Bahamuts Staff as well.

[axlzero]

Why not just have it were you collect jewels or crystals or something that give stats differnet colors for different stats and different sizes for higher or lower stat boost. You can add it to any piece of armor or weapon or items like rings you toss the jewels or or crystals or whatever into a synergy furnace then toss the weapon armor or whatever into it also push a button and walla that stat is added. If you ask me that is what synergy should of been about you still make all your armor and weapons with the other crafting skills like woodworking and smithing you just improve it with synergy. If they did this with all armor that can be collected and made or bought then there would be tons of variety in end game gear people would wear what they want not what everyone if cutting each others throats in hnm or event eareas to get. I would also like to see a coloring system were armor you like the look of you can change the color pattern of i would like to see kaiser set made gold or blue or even better gold with blue underlay. what would be another nice thing to do is be able to remove penalty stats off armor or even reverse them

[SNK]

I have to agree on Thief's Knife and Valk's Fork. One just because the low DMG is awful and of course the Fork is a beautiful weapon. I wouldn't care if it kept the same stats but god just let us upgrade the base DMG

[Miiyo]

next we'll have PLDs in tutus.
It would match for Pld/Dnc

[Kaych]

I would like to see the items dropped by Carbuncle Prime in the Waking the Beast quests be upgraded:)

[Karbuncle]

My Carbuncle pole quietly sits in Storage :|

[sope]

I would like to see the items dropped by Carbuncle Prime in the Waking the Beast quests be upgraded:)

I'd at least like the Shiva's Shotel model to be re-used on a useful sword for 90+

[Karbuncle]

Do kinda hate how rare the shotel Model is.

[Mara]

After spending 13 months running a limbus shell and dealing with all the whining emo BS that pops up for the leader of an endgame shell, I'd kinda like my Homam gear to be relevant again. I worked so hard to get it, and now it's been replaced by things I can buy off the AH or solo in abyssea. I get the whole new gear is better let the past go argument, but I had to drag 30 other people through limbus run after limbus run, kicking and screaming, by my teeth to get that armor and it sucks so much that it's been replaced so easily. SE told us waaaaaay back when the lvl cap increases were first announced that we'd be able to upgrade our current gear to be comparable to the new gear, and I've been holding onto my limbus gear eagerly awaiting what I might be able to do with it.

[RaenRyong]

With 30 people you should've been finishing an Omega set every run <_<

[Satyr]

All I really want is a reskin for Optical Hat ... IMO its the biggest gear injustice that we have ever had in this game. A head piece that is still to this day one of the best pieces for evasion has the ugliest model in the game.

SE: Please reskin Optical hat to something cooler ... You can use the trader's chappeau model and just change the red areas to black. ...in fact send me the file and I will do it for you ... it will only take me like 2 min in photoshop.

[Miiyo]

..in fact send me the file and I will do it for you ... it will only take me like 2 min in photoshop.
Then just do it?

[Karbuncle]

Then just do it?

I think he wants to universally correct this great in justice!

[Rambus]

Make it look like SAM gear? You got it!

nuuuu we already have WHM look like SAM or war and DRK that look like blm.....

[Rya]

I dunno, Ohat was bad, but I think Walahra Turban (a.k.a. Walmart, Chinstrap, etc) was pretty awful too.

(yay for Zelus! now gimme one please)

I'd LOVE to be able to upgrade old stuff to be "comparable" (could still be slightly inferior, I don't care) -- we used to have 92394023840 pieces of gear at Lv.75, sidegrades galore!

Especially the melee WHM stuff, since ... well ... it's kinda my thing. :)
Plus, Reverend Mail looks really special (like SMNs in SAM gear!)

I agree about having high hopes that they'd follow through with updating old gear. I believe in you, SE! <3

[SubDragon]

1/52 on Yinyang robe here...
But at least I went 1/1 on every blu spell when blu was released.
I want my YYR to be upgradeable and my Bahamut's Staff I worked painfully to get when V2 was released.
Actually all the Bahamut Gear. If SE isn't going to give SMN's the ability to summon him because they revere him and don't want to lessen his stats, why does his gear he drops equate to garbage thanks to Magian and AF3?

[Rambus]

Especially the melee WHM stuff, since ... well ... it's kinda my thing. :)
Plus, Reverend Mail looks really special (like SMNs in SAM gear!)



yeah that is what i was talking about, do you have the relic club? do you offhand kc? , just wondering.

I hate that YY NM on asura people mpked me over it ( failed the second time since i knew it would be comming)

never camped it after that. i think they where mad because a team of 2 outclaimed 2-3 different groups of 6+

god the lag they made was horrible too just by standing on top of me.

I know people would like lots of key drops off old stuff upgraded like riddle , zenith gear, AF+1, relic +1 other weapons that are droped like v fork. (if you have relic+1 upgrade matts in dyna it could help bring life in it) same with af+1 and limbus. upgradeable homan and the other set.

could do yiget and such too ( more +hmp on it please)

[kenshyn]

Ridill - add Blue Mage no reason not to now lol
Algol
destroyers any weapon that took 500 ws to open
Sea torques
AV gear
PW gear
ZNM gear

Basically reasons for people to do other things then Abyssea again lol.

[Karbuncle]

We'll have reasons to do other things than Abyssea by 99 :)

Personally, I know i Don't share this Opinion, But i'm happy Destroyers died and left. they were like W.Turbans, you just got tired of looking at em XD

Also, I think i would laugh if Heart Snatcher ever got an upgrade. It will be an ironic twist. Cause god that weapon has caused me so much rage back at 75.

[Rambus]

Ridill - add Blue Mage no reason not to now lol
Algol
destroyers any weapon that took 500 ws to open
Sea torques
AV gear
PW gear
ZNM gear

Basically reasons for people to do other things then Abyssea again lol.

yeah lets try make a list of all good drops in past that people did to allow upgrade.

zenth gear
Armada Hauberk Set
Hecatomb Harness +1 Set
Byakko Haidate

assault gear:
yiget
that stuff that was like yiget that thf etc got
that stuff that heavy armor got that is like yiget.

savage gear
ATU point weapons.
campain battle gear
campain ws weapons ( add more, upgrade old)
limbus gear ( af+1 > af+2??, homan, mage stuff that is like homan forget name)

Einherjar gear:
make the gear from it not be crap with upgrades (99% of it was crap at 75)
upgrade weapons like v fork.

ZNM gear/weapons (like you said)
PW gear/weapons (like you said)
sea torques ( like you said)
AV drops ( like you said)
Ridill (like you said)

[Venat]

I think equipment Icons for old gear could use a change and other old items in the game.

[Rambus]

I think equipment Icons for old gear could use a change and other old items in the game.


they did that a few times already =/ seemed like a waste of time, did you know vcloak, the skill torques, mold earing used to look differently?

[Rya]

do you have the relic club? do you offhand kc?
Lv.90 Mjollnir + Kraken Club (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lhvdRWphEo) :D

I would love to wear Revcam effectually again, someday. It's so DD-looking!

Edit: Why do their links not look like links? I had to manually style it. Sadness :(

[Glamdring]

revise some of the sets that are out there to be compatible with jobs that were introduced after the armor/weapon were. i.e. was it intentional that pup gear suck that much?

[Karbuncle]

revise some of the sets that are out there to be compatible with jobs that were introduced after the armor/weapon were. i.e. was it intentional that pup gear suck that much?

You know. I'm thinking the exact same GD thing.

I'm seriously just Happy that I'm mithra when i play PUP, since Mithra RSE (body/feet anyway) are decent armor for PUP. But i'm screwed on bout everything else cause PUP is on like, Nothing but Fking Mage armor.

Why am i On SEER's Tunic when i have 0MP? If SE wanted PUP to sit back and be a Back-line-Skank they could have given us MP/basic spells. Instead the only distinctive thing about PUP is h2h skill. No magic, nothing else. (aside from Automaton) Yet its on Nothing but Mage gear through all the early levels =.=a

Been wearing Empress Hairpin, Aega's Doublet, Combat Mittens (Thank got these were added), Herder's Subligar, and RSE feet(Mithra), and from the looks of it, I'll be wearing those into a select few macro pieces of AF...

[Therin]

Any Salvage, Limbus, and Abjuration gear should receive moderate improvements through a trial-like system which allow them to be on the same level with AF3+1 gear.

For example:

Homam Manopolas +1
DEF:30 HP+35 MP+35 Accuracy+8
Enmity+5 Haste+5%
Lv.90 THF/PLD/DRK/DRG/BLU

Comparable, yet not superior to most AF3 items.

[Karbuncle]

I would like something like the Above, But i think since that Blog-post it seems clear We'll probably be augmenting that crap through Synergy :(

Though i wouldn't mind to get my Homam Pants out of my Dusty Storage...

[Glamdring]

Any Salvage, Limbus, and Abjuration gear should receive moderate improvements through a trial-like system which allow them to be on the same level with AF3+1 gear.

For example:

Homam Manopolas +1
DEF:30 HP+35 MP+35 Accuracy+8
Enmity+5 Haste+5%
Lv.90 THF/PLD/DRK/DRG/BLU

Comparable, yet not superior to most AF3 items.

Actually, I think that's already the plan based on a few GM messages on here.

[kenshyn]

Also how about expanding the use of the campaign gear especially the weapons sad to see them and campaign fall so far off the map lol.

[Glamdring]

WoTG content has been lagging for some time, evidenced by the number of people without Future Fabulous Atma. The usual complaint I see is that the reward isn't good enough. Couple that with not getting skill and showing up for campaign battles only to have them end as you get there and it's just a mediocre system. Too bad, I actually enjoyed campaign. I took my 2 jobs to 75 there, then did my bard skill-ups in Dynamis and my beast skill-ups just happened while farming. I think if they were to allow skill-ups during battles, make a few areas more pet friendly and make the rewards a bit more level appropriate and worthwhile outside campaign it might breathe a little life in.

[KigenAngelios]

Bahamut Staff, Joyeuse, and CoP Rings! {Yes, Please.}

[Caria]

It's not rare, but I would love to see the HQ Elemental staves be upgradable to be equal to the ToM staves. I'm sick of having to carry around and/or store 24 staves for what I used to need 8 to accomplish (macc (whm+sch), mab (sch), and perp cost(smn))!

[Dallas]

Especially the melee WHM stuff, since ... well ... it's kinda my thing.

If Nashira's gear gets more haste with the update, I think melee mages will be fine with that. What I want to really know though is why SE hasn't released a single haste gear set for mages since then. The only mage specific haste gear to surpass LIMBUS gear was Goliard Saio. "All jobs" does not count.

Please SE, let mages melee with dignity. Purple jackets (or that vomitous couch striped coat) and dragon print pants just looks awful. Someone link a picture of their pimp melee mage so that SE can take pity on us.

[Sydebeheln]

As cool as this is, and how much i would love for new gear to be upgraded. We need to keep in mind, that we wern't asking for lizard jerkin, or centarion gear to be upgraded when the cap used to be 50. It's part of growing, and as hard as it is to put these awesome pieces of gear down, eventually new ones will just step in there place, and one day you will be asking for those to be upgraded, and you will completely forget about the gear we want upgraded now.

[Valonquar]

Maat's Cap+1
Bump it up to +25 in every stat
Dispense: Primeval Brew
40 hour cooldown

[Atomic_Skull]

None. I want new gear, thanks. But what's with that list? Why does thief knife need to be upgraded? It's only purpose is TH.... It doesn't need better stats to serve its purpose.

THFs are forced to gimp themselves with horrible weapon.

[Atomic_Skull]

Any Salvage, Limbus, and Abjuration gear should receive moderate improvements through a trial-like system which allow them to be on the same level with AF3+1 gear.

For example:

Homam Manopolas +1
DEF:30 HP+35 MP+35 Accuracy+8
Enmity+5 Haste+5%
Lv.90 THF/PLD/DRK/DRG/BLU

Comparable, yet not superior to most AF3 items.

PLEASE no more moogles shooping the whoop at our armor.

Any Limbus and Salvage gear upgrades should be done by adding new NMs and bosses to the content that drop items which are used to upgrade the NQ gear by trading them to the NPCs that originally dispensed the equipment.

[Karbuncle]

If we get Salvage/Limbus upgrades ever, I'd rather they be Synergy Augments instead of once again having that gear being best of the best at 99. I see little point of going to 99 if they keep all our old armor better than the shit we got on the way up.

Besides, Even if it was just SYnergy Augments, the crap we got now is proof it could still be good.

[Korpg]

I want some Summoner Luven finally with old gear upgrades.

Sky stuff completely ignores SMN, and the augments do so...somewhat.

Only Zenith Pumps seems the only thing that SMN gets with augments now...and even then, it is overshadowed by both relic and emp boots....

[Hayward]

At this point, I can't really say I regret not getting a Yinyang Robe. Not only does the Caller's Doublet +1 have superior stats--and the potential for even higher stats with +2--it requires far less trouble and frustration.

Kriegsbeil & Fransisca would be great upgrade choices for Rangers.

Zoraal Ja's Axe would be a great option if it were upgradable.

An upgraded Enhancing Sword would bring me back to RDM in a hurry.

On an upgraded Maat's Cap, I don't even want to think about the trial for that (knowing these guys, it would involve either the Maat of 20 years ago or his Abyssean counterpart, both being even stronger than the Maat we knew and dreaded at level 70.

[Karbuncle]

An upgraded Enhancing Sword would bring me back to RDM in a hurry.

They have something like this, the "Chimeric Fleuret".

[Coldbrand]

Save the Queen. It's MESSED UP that they'd take the name of such a legendary sword within the series and let it go to waste.

Also, all I really, truly want is to have a haste SET that matches and caps me preferably with STP so I can stop having to resort to looking like a deranged hobo to have a 5 hit with capped haste. Aurum, or Ares sets would be good choices to give this treatment.

Also when was this supposed to happen?



Make sure you all stay tuned for the announcements coming up!

[Ravenmore]

Tired of looking at the old gear. Whats the point of even releasing new gear if you can just upgrade the old crap. They really left the old endgame at the top for far to long with far to crappy of drop rates. Also what karbuncle said that sword looks to be fun from watching my friend play with it. I mean really I knew some one that quit over thier harby +1 was outclassed by noctus mail when it was released.

[Doombringer]

Save the Queen. It's MESSED UP that they'd take the name of such a legendary sword within the series and let it go to waste.

also, bloodsword.

[Sargent]

I want some Summoner Luven finally with old gear upgrades.

Sky stuff completely ignores SMN, and the augments do so...somewhat.

Only Zenith Pumps seems the only thing that SMN gets with augments now...and even then, it is overshadowed by both relic and emp boots....

Yea, Sky gear with Augments more or less ignores SMN (bar lolMAcc on Z.Hands), but Hadean pieces do not. Pet:MAB is the guaranteed augment on Shadow Hat, and you can get Pet:Critical Hit Rate on Shadow Trews.

On topic, please for the love of all that is holy let us augment Salvage gear ASAP. That is all.

[Twille]

I don't understand what is with FFXI players insisting on upgrading old, outdated gear. The game has moved on, they've created something new. PLEASE, for the love of all that is holy, stop bickering the devs to tweak your old gear and let them work on something NEW.
Let the past be the past.

[Skyrant_Kangaroomouse]

Only gear that really needs an upgrade is Salvage. Simply because it took ages to get and is on the same level as relic weapons in terms of time invested into it.

All the other gear is either already useful or has better replacements as mentioned by others.

[Ravenmore]

Only gear that really needs an upgrade is Salvage. Simply because it took ages to get and is on the same level as relic weapons in terms of time invested into it.

All the other gear is either already useful or has better replacements as mentioned by others.

Most of thast gear was sidegrades or other gear was easier to get and far more useful and came finished. I drop salavge the day the af2/af+1 was anounsced for blu. A couple of jobs got anything from it that they couldn't get some were else.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Shell shield.
Because it takes forever to get and came first. So it should be better then relic and empyrean. ^^

[Korpg]

Shell shield.
Because it takes forever to get and came first. So it should be better then relic and empyrean. ^^

What would you hope to have augmented with?

[Meyi]

I'd like to see CoP rings augmentable because I really like their design. :< Kind of sad that I had to put my Tamas down to wear an AH bought ring instead.

[Invader]

I'd like to see CoP rings augmentable because I really like their design. :< Kind of sad that I had to put my Tamas down to wear an AH bought ring instead.
More proof that if you got anything other than Rajas from CoP, urdoinitwrong :x

[Tsukino_Kaji]

What would you hope to have augmented with?100% block rate and shield bash VIII.
Keep the 2def to be fair though.

[Korpg]

100% block rate and shield bash VIII.
Keep the 2def to be fair though.

I'll take that anyday!

[Aeonk]

I could get behind an augment to CoP rings. Maybe a few extra missions to push them up to 99 standards?

[Korpg]

I could get behind an augment to CoP rings. Maybe a few extra missions to push them up to 99 standards?

Thing is, Rajas Ring is at level 99 standards.

What other ring can give you STP+5/SB+5 and STR/DEX at the same time.

They should increase the +5 on stats to +10 for level 99 though

[Tsukino_Kaji]

There was actualy a reply in anotehr thread where they stated they were looking into an update for them. They also stated that they did not want to make them out power the ZM earrings.

[Meyi]

More proof that if you got anything other than Rajas from CoP, urdoinitwrong :x

Yes because I want a Rajas for my mage character.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Yes because I want a Rajas for my mage character.I did. lol

[Korpg]

Yes because I want a Rajas for my mage character.

I have BLM/SMN/WHM at 90, RDM at 75+, and only one real DD job (WAR) and I still picked Rajas.

[Caesaris]

Really, i'd like to see RSE upgraded for level 90's. Remember all the scrambling and hunting we did back for our first RSE? I'd love to relive those days level 90 style! I still use my RSE for every job I level when the job is at that level... I would love to see updated versions of that RSE to help carry us from 90-99.

Also, all jobs get a level 40 or so weapon as their AF1. What is the level 90 equivalent for that? Empyrean weapons? Like most people, I don't have the time or resources to dedicate to an Empyrean weapon, but i'd do another coffer/bcnm fight for a level 90 Job Specific Weapon. I'm not asking for anything to rival an empyrean or even a relic weapon. Just something useful like our AF weapon once was.