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Ulth
08-21-2015, 12:17 AM
In the 2015 August update the maximum merits for attributes, combat, and magic skills were increased. I was wondering if there was any chance that the job specific merits would also see an increase at some point. I realize that some jobs only have 4 categories so an increase to 15 would let them nearly max all, and 20 would let them max all, but other jobs have 7 and could really benefit from it.

RalphTheGalka
08-21-2015, 04:14 AM
At this point I say go for it. It's practically free content. Sure, it won't take long to max them all, but it's almost no dev time. And it's unlikely to cause many balance issues because people are already maxing out the good ones and ignoring the less useful ones. Oh, no, a useless spell might see the light of day for once.

Phafi
08-21-2015, 04:21 AM
yo dawg, 5/5 blind2 is too overpowered and will upset the balance of this here fine established game.

Kaeviathan
08-21-2015, 06:28 AM
A ninja with all elemental ninjutsu capped is OP, especially in contents outside Adoulin where the target's magic defense is very low.

Traxus
08-22-2015, 01:00 AM
Yes ninja nuking already way too strong to allow this to happen, my server is flooded with ninjutsu burn groups.

Fahzewn
08-22-2015, 03:15 AM
Not that I wouldn't want at least 5 points more per category including "Others"...

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/48119-Freshly-Picked-Vana-diel-20-Digest?p=557090&viewfull=1#post557090

Ulth
08-22-2015, 03:26 AM
Not that I wouldn't want at least 5 points more per category including "Others"...

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/48119-Freshly-Picked-Vana-diel-20-Digest?p=557090&viewfull=1#post557090

Yeah that really confused me. HP/MP are already so you can max them out completely. It's like something got lost in translation. Could it be they are talking about increasing the amount you can increase HP/MP from 15 to 20?

Bluestar2kx
08-23-2015, 05:41 AM
A ninja with all elemental ninjutsu capped is OP, especially in contents outside Adoulin where the target's magic defense is very low.

That covers pretty much every job tho, including sch. Unless we restrict ilvl gear in every zone outside adoulin.
You can go into any zone and just destroy everything there with little effort. It doesn't really matter in the end, plus, a majority of the server populations spend most of their time in ilvl zones/battlefields anyway.

I would support an increase to job specific categories for all jobs, if we could max them out, all the better, most merit categories are fairly weak anyway because people already merited the useful ones, everything else is just leftovers that wasn't practical under current caps.

Kaeviathan
08-23-2015, 09:04 AM
I was just trolling, I might be bad at it.

Bluestar2kx
08-23-2015, 09:12 AM
I was just trolling, I might be bad at it.

Or I'm bad at seeing it^^
But either way, the issue of potential balance breaking does come into play when discussing increases, you know SE will say that anyway.
But I just don't see that they would be of serious consequence anymore, esp given the power of job point/gift categories. A dozen more points or two to cap out merits in categories 1 and 2 just don't seem to be very breaking. Those were designed with a lv 75 cap in mind, now were at 99 with an ilvl cap of 119, they generally aren't as consequential to balance anymore like they used to be.

Hopefully, SE considers it.
If not released all the way like they pretty much did combat skill categories, at least enough to put 3 in each skill.
Would be nice to put 3 in each San spell for ninja for example.

Kuvo
08-24-2015, 02:30 AM
I for one would love to be able to use all my RDM merit 2 spells so I'm in favor of the increase.

Grekumah
09-03-2015, 05:06 AM
Currently we do not have any plans to increase the cap for the Group 1 or Group 2 merit point categories.

Ulth
09-03-2015, 05:46 AM
Okay I'll give it a year and ask again.

Zhronne
09-03-2015, 06:33 AM
Okay I'll give it a year and ask again.
Give it one more and they won't even bother to reply lol

Ataraxia
09-03-2015, 08:07 AM
Currently we do not have any plans to increase the cap for the Group 1 or Group 2 merit point categories.


This is very sad hear and I do not think increasing the cap for Group 1 and Group 2 break any game balance at all. It is the same for increasing the cap for meriting weapon skill to 5/5 that too do not break game balance.

At the end of the day what make a player strong is Job points and Gift points. I hope in the future Community Team change their mind and increase Group 1, Group 2 and merits weapon skill is allow to max.

Eventually if people max out everything and got all their armor from high tier mission battle than i guess people yet again will have nothing to do with 45 merits points. Since the Community team say no into converting merits points into job points. What about Converting Merits points into a copper or conquest points in different area? this will probably keep the cycle going for a long time using merits points.

detlef
09-03-2015, 11:14 AM
BOO THIS MAN.

Just kidding, I know it's not your call to make, Grekumah.

Disappointing nonetheless.