Ffxi ending

[Sonicblue]

I have a question about this game ending will it only be playable on iPad or can we still able to play it on PC

[Shirai]

As said by SE, they will keep the game up for PC after Q1 2016 for as long as enough people keep playing it.

[Zumi]

You can still play it on PC the cell phone version won't even use the same servers.

[bungiefanNA]

I have a question about this game ending will it only be playable on iPad or can we still able to play it on PC

Mobile version is a completely separate environment for the game with its own servers. The current incarnation is only losing console support. PC support will continue as long as it is worthwhile. Mobile version is starting the game completely over, and releasing in regions and languages that were not previously supported.

[Alhanelem]

I don't think it's for "ipad" specifically, rather ios and android devices (phones).

The game isn't ending (on PC), only major content updates are ending.

[peculiar]

I don't think it's for "ipad" specifically, rather ios and android devices (phones).

The game isn't ending (on PC), only major content updates are ending.

No your pet gerbil isn't going to die, it's just never going to be fed ever again. It doesn't need food to live!

[Stompa]

No your pet gerbil isn't going to die, it's just never going to be fed ever again. It doesn't need food to live!

There's enough existing content in FFXI to keep a player busy for years. So your gerbil analogy would be more like an obese over-fed gerbil that could actually use a diet anyway.

I'm farming 3000 riftcinders for my Empy AG. I get around six a month, so thats five hundred months of content for me.

Also there will be some grand-finale content at the end of RoV, which will hopefully add more long-term content rewards/challenges to keep people happy after the updates finally stop.

Also a person could just, you know, play the game and have fun in Vanadiel without needing new stuff all the time. Like some sort of wise gerbil who watches his weight and does Pilates and stuff.

[Pooty]

I'm farming 3000 riftcinders for my Empy AG. I get around six a month, so thats five hundred months of content for me.

Please don't say you're going to spend the next 41 years farming Riftcinders...

[Stompa]

Please don't say you're going to spend the next 41 years farming Riftcinders...

I'll probably hand it down so my children and grandchildren can finish building my empy after I'm gone lol.

[peculiar]

There's enough existing content in FFXI to keep a player busy for years. So your gerbil analogy would be more like an obese over-fed gerbil that could actually use a diet anyway.

I'm farming 3000 riftcinders for my Empy AG. I get around six a month, so thats five hundred months of content for me.

Also there will be some grand-finale content at the end of RoV, which will hopefully add more long-term content rewards/challenges to keep people happy after the updates finally stop.

Also a person could just, you know, play the game and have fun in Vanadiel without needing new stuff all the time. Like some sort of wise gerbil who watches his weight and does Pilates and stuff.

This is simply not true, 99% of the content is not worth doing at all.

This game is easier than ever to cap out on, once the new content dries up so will the playerbase (what's left of it).

Have any of you played any ubisoft games? They do this kind of thing too, they can't shut an older title down for the rage it will cause so instead they just ruin it to the point you don't want to play it anymore so they can then close it down and make you all move to the sequel.

[Stompa]

This is simply not true, 99% of the content is not worth doing at all.

This game is easier than ever to cap out on, once the new content dries up so will the playerbase (what's left of it).

Have any of you played any ubisoft games? They do this kind of thing too, they can't shut an older title down for the rage it will cause so instead they just ruin it to the point you don't want to play it anymore so they can then close it down and make you all move to the sequel.

I've played Ubisoft games, and most other games since my first computer in 1981. I wasn't talking about those other games, although I would be happy to write a long essay here about all the games I've played. I was talking about FFXI, and how I could (if I quit my job) play this game all day long, and I would still not be bored and I would still not finish building my empys, lol.

I love the actual physical world of Vana'diel, all the small things, the cave paintings on some of the walls in QC, the glowy lights and ancient brickwork in TC. The girl in Norg who is saving up for a new parrot. This world is atmospheric and engaging to me, it continues to beckon to me, it calls to something in my soul. When Star Sibyl said to me "please come home safely" that one time, I actually cried in real life. This world is important to me, and I feel I am important to it. And that is the sign of a well-crafted atmospheric roleplaying world.

If I beat all content on my main, I would start a new character and play the whole game again, all quests, all missions, and gear / weaps. Because I love playing this game, the way it is, with or without new content. I love the way the mini-menus are on the screen, opening up into spell lists, weaponskill lists etc. I love the Equipment Grid system, for switching gear manually. I love the macro systems. I love the way weaponskills feel solid to me, and have their distinctive styles and elements. I love the mobs and the NM spawn rule systems. I love the fishing, all the different fish with their quirky individual pulls. I love my Moghouse, which has taken me almost twelve years to get looking "just right." I love the complexity and perplexity of FFXI. I just enjoy playing it so much, I will never stop as long as it is available to play online.

I don't really care if other people crave New Stuff all the time, that is not my problem. I enjoy the game itself, I think it is wonderful, and I never get bored.

[peculiar]

I've played Ubisoft games, and most other games since my first computer in 1981. I wasn't talking about those other games, although I would be happy to write a long essay here about all the games I've played. I was talking about FFXI, and how I could (if I quit my job) play this game all day long, and I would still not be bored and I would still not finish building my empys, lol.

I love the actual physical world of Vana'diel, all the small things, the cave paintings on some of the walls in QC, the glowy lights and ancient brickwork in TC. The girl in Norg who is saving up for a new parrot. This world is atmospheric and engaging to me, it continues to beckon to me, it calls to something in my soul. When Star Sibyl said to me "please come home safely" that one time, I actually cried in real life. This world is important to me, and I feel I am important to it. And that is the sign of a well-crafted atmospheric roleplaying world.

If I beat all content on my main, I would start a new character and play the whole game again, all quests, all missions, and gear / weaps. Because I love playing this game, the way it is, with or without new content. I love the way the mini-menus are on the screen, opening up into spell lists, weaponskill lists etc. I love the Equipment Grid system, for switching gear manually. I love the macro systems. I love the way weaponskills feel solid to me, and have their distinctive styles and elements. I love the mobs and the NM spawn rule systems. I love the fishing, all the different fish with their quirky individual pulls. I love my Moghouse, which has taken me almost twelve years to get looking "just right." I love the complexity and perplexity of FFXI. I just enjoy playing it so much, I will never stop as long as it is available to play online.

I don't really care if other people crave New Stuff all the time, that is not my problem. I enjoy the game itself, I think it is wonderful, and I never get bored.

You only get to enjoy vanadiel because enough people agree with you and pay to keep it alive. So you should care.

[Stompa]

You only get to enjoy vanadiel because enough people agree with you and pay to keep it alive. So you should care.

Obviously I hope other people will sub, to keep the game alive longer.

What I meant is that I can not change other people's fixation with endless novelty, they want New Stuff all the time and that's their business and so I don't care about that.

I think my long posts submitting lavish praise at the feet of FFXI, can only help to encourage new players to sub.

The people who are posting "the game is dead, it is old and not very shiny, it should be free to play because it isn't worth a cent" those are the people who are going to discourage new or returning players from subbing.

[Bluestar2kx]

This is simply not true, 99% of the content is not worth doing at all.


Says you? Please, I still do content nobody else does anymore except JP players.
I hardly get far into the adoulin and escha stuff thats all the rage atm. 85% of my time is spent in areas released when the lv cap was 75, and I enjoy doing it. (not so much the grind for my kikoku, but, can't win them all)

If all you care about is ilvl stuff, then yeah, old content is worthless to you, but not everyone is obsessed with having new stuff that is, on average, only marginally better then the old stuff from last month. There's enough in this game to last me another 2-3 years.

I highly doubt the playerbase will dry up. I do think we'll go down to a handful of servers by the end of next year, but I don't believe it will dry up very quickly. Players love FFXI for a lot of reasons, if players dropped it when content got boring, it would have died a long time ago, but here we are, all these years later and still going fairly strong, hell the only real reason we're losing major updates is because the kits that made this game are dying and don't have replacements.

[Alhanelem]

This is simply not true, 99% of the content is not worth doing at all.It's only "not worth doing" if you hate fun and never do anything if there's no promise of an upgrade/reward.

I myself am trying to cross off an item on my bucket list: one last really good ballista match. But I probably wont get that to happen for the same reason it fell off the map to begin with: there's no reward. It's "for fun." So people won't play. But it seems like people forget how to have fun sometimes when they play an MMO.

[Draylo-]

I still do moblin maze mongers, I need 300 points for that toy club!

[Artharian]

I'm completely in agreement with the 'worth doing' argument - Stompa's description of a Golden Age is spot on...I'm having tons of fun in non-end game activities that have been opened up for me by the changes over the recent(ish) releases.

I think (hope!) that SE's plan is that game longevity will be brought about by allowing solo or small party activities to achieve much more - unlocking content for those of us who, for time reasons and outside commitments, have been unable to explore these areas.

I have no issues with continuing my subscription after updates are done - I've still got a great world to explore!

Art.

[peculiar]

I'll check back in a year, see how many of you are still around after there has been no new content for 6 months.

Also some of you that are posting don't even play the game, nor have you for quite some time.

[Shirai]

Some perhaps, but I think most people still play on a regular basis, I can't imagine that all these people pay the fee just to be able to post on these forums.

[Artharian]

I'll check back in a year, see how many of you are still around after there has been no new content for 6 months.


It's a deal! :-) I've been playing for years without getting near end-game stuff...if the servers are still running I fully expect to be on in a year (or more!). I've never really been driven by a constant supply of new content; to me there's still so much to do and enjoy that I have masses of 'new content' - it's just that it's old content to some people :-)

Art.

[Raiyara]

It ultimately depends on what happens.

True on the ONE hand the game COULD die after major content updates end..... but on the other people might stick around as well. There is ALOT of content to do even after major updates stop but that doesnt mean all updates are stopped they still might add smaller things in as well as QoL changes and that.

Also the Rhapsodies thing might be just a way of wrapping up the CONSOLE service but remember the game will still run on PC and with no more consoles holding it back they could possibly work on revamping the PC version expecially if enough people are still playing next year. If somehow they found a way around the PS2 dev issue then that could possibly change things as well.

Realistically although it might not happen afink most people did wanna see at least One more expansion. Game wouldve probably felt complete if they had added the Northern Orcish Empire (North), The Mithran Homeland (South) and of course what was wanted for a very long time but might not ever happen the Far East. Realistically if anything the only thing that was really missing was the Far East.

Ultimately It depends on what goes from here on out. The game COULD die but then again it could keep on going for many years yet. I dont expect the mobile FFXI or spinoff game to be successful in the west I personally dislike mobiles theyre small annoying to use and I'll suited to my preferred form of gaming (PC mater race! :P) and a good few people who play this game are of a similar mindset.

Even with the way the games currently at it could still go somewhere in a few years if enough people keep playing. FFXIV is far less entertaining than this in part not because of the story but the COMMUNITY is inferior and has alot of wow kiddy whingers over this.

[Stompa]

I'll check back in a year, see how many of you are still around after there has been no new content for 6 months.

Also some of you that are posting don't even play the game, nor have you for quite some time.

I already said a few months ago that I would pay full monthly subs just to watch Nashmeira Trust do her boxing animations, with her arms waggling around as she tries to avoid looking at the scary monster.
I would pay the subs just to sit there watching her boxing, it is the funniest thing I have ever seen in my life. The fact I get to see her arm-waggling animations, plus the rest of Vana'diel all included in the subs, is more than enough for me. But I would pay subs just to watch her boxing, seriously.

:)

[peculiar]

Some perhaps, but I think most people still play on a regular basis, I can't imagine that all these people pay the fee just to be able to post on these forums.

Free fortnight = free forum access.

[peculiar]

I already said a few months ago that I would pay full monthly subs just to watch Nashmeira Trust do her boxing animations, with her arms waggling around as she tries to avoid looking at the scary monster.
I would pay the subs just to sit there watching her boxing, it is the funniest thing I have ever seen in my life. The fact I get to see her arm-waggling animations, plus the rest of Vana'diel all included in the subs, is more than enough for me. But I would pay subs just to watch her boxing, seriously.

:)

Yes but you paying the sub for 100 years would not keep the game open, they need minimum player numbers to do that. Majority won't pay just do look at their characters.

[Stompa]

Yes but you paying the sub for 100 years would not keep the game open, they need minimum player numbers to do that. Majority won't pay just do look at their characters.


I understand that I can't single-handedly keep FFXI Online in profit. Also I don't just look at the trusts, I go fishing and pwn mobs and make my automaton do amusing dances.

I think you underestimate the loyalty of the core FFXI fanbase, be they Japanese or EU or US or whatever. There are a lot of people who love FFXI and will sub it until the very end. We have seen a lot of games come and go since FFXI arrived, a lot of games rose and fell, while Vana'diel remained online.

Nobody is doubting that the overall population has declined, and this is natural. What is not natural, is the fact that this groundbreaking computergame has survived, flourished and improved in so many ways, over so many years. When the history books are written, FFXI will be in those books, as a truly pioneering game that really did explore uncharted seas, remained afloat in wild and turbulent storms, and retained such a loyal core playerbase throughout the journey.

We can't change the past, or make PS2 devkits grow on trees, or un-ooops some of the big ooops that were made. We are where we are today, and FFXI, like life, is not forever. Should we enjoy FFXI now, and enjoy our lives, or should we hang around being gloomy and talking about inevitable death. Personally, I love computergames, and tabletop roleplaying, and life in general. I wish to be enthusiastic, until the very end!

I will continue to play this awesome computergame for as long as it is available to play, and I am always happy to pay subs for such a high-quality gaming experience.

:)

[bungiefanNA]

Free fortnight = free forum access.

Also, as long as you don't force something to expire your cookie, you can continue to post afterward while inactive, as long as you stay logged in. I've done that for both stints while forced to be unsubscribed.

[BurnNotice]

I strongly believe this game will be here for years to come. So much love for the game and so many new players coming to play. I've been playing this game since day one of US release and played with classmates from high school/college, co-workers, and people I've met and introduced the game to. I can't see this game dying no time soon. There is way too many things to do and accomplish.

Granted, it would be of great shock to hear that we will get new content to complete the world of Vana'diel. I, for one, look forward to the land of the Far East.

[Bluestar2kx]

I'll check back in a year, see how many of you are still around after there has been no new content for 6 months.

Also some of you that are posting don't even play the game, nor have you for quite some time.

It's cute you think you know it all about other people, but you'll forget to check long before I quit FFXI for good.
I have 11 years of accumulated playtime that started in 2003 (more time then half the people still playing the game i'd guess), and most of that took place long before aby and adoulin.

I've got plenty to do in FFXI*, I just got me a Hauteclaire sword for my pld who's 71, finishing up my kikoku for my nin who's 81, tons left to work on, rng, cor, pup, mnk, try run, geo, maybe bst, I still have most of every mission chapter to do except chains which is done, and almost all of zilart is done, tons to explore and do. Still want to pop AV, PW, finish my medals in campaign, and much more, including making my first mythic weapon. This doesn't even count all the things my partner has yet to do and try in FFXI.

So I'll be here, probably until Sunset, long after you stop posting about knowing people you don't know, but I guess it makes you feel better to do so.

But there will likely be content made still, and adjustments to ffxi, it will just be based of elements already in the game, that don't require intensive coding, and thus, the dev kits, but other things can still be done without it.

*On my new character anyway, I wanted to change race, since there's no magic potion, had to do it the hard way, and I prefer slow leveling to XP burning to 99 in a day, so that helps boost the length of time.

[peculiar]

It's cute you think you know it all about other people, but you'll forget to check long before I quit FFXI for good.
I have 11 years of accumulated playtime that started in 2003 (more time then half the people still playing the game i'd guess), and most of that took place long before aby and adoulin.

I've got plenty to do in FFXI*, I just got me a Hauteclaire sword for my pld who's 71, finishing up my kikoku for my nin who's 81, tons left to work on, rng, cor, pup, mnk, try run, geo, maybe bst, I still have most of every mission chapter to do except chains which is done, and almost all of zilart is done, tons to explore and do. Still want to pop AV, PW, finish my medals in campaign, and much more, including making my first mythic weapon. This doesn't even count all the things my partner has yet to do and try in FFXI.

So I'll be here, probably until Sunset, long after you stop posting about knowing people you don't know, but I guess it makes you feel better to do so.

But there will likely be content made still, and adjustments to ffxi, it will just be based of elements already in the game, that don't require intensive coding, and thus, the dev kits, but other things can still be done without it.

*On my new character anyway, I wanted to change race, since there's no magic potion, had to do it the hard way, and I prefer slow leveling to XP burning to 99 in a day, so that helps boost the length of time.

I kinda do yes, I've played mmo titles for a long long time and I've played a lot of them.

New content to a game is what keeps the majority of people around, if this was not the case Square would of not updated XI for the last 13 years. They would not be updating XIV now, it's the life blood. I also have very little faith in players words, some of the strongest defenders of XI that I knew (that would play it till they took the servers offline), no longer play. Words are cheap.

Also as I said, there are a handful of XIV players how post here that have not played XI for a long long time. It's incredibly obvious who those are here.

[Draylo-]

What is the point you are trying to make peculiar? People will quit? I think we know that. There will still be people left over playing the game though. Also 99% of the new content is not easy to cap out on, it would take you a long time playing 3hrs a day or so to cap gear just for one job... imagine all 22.

[Bluestar2kx]

I kinda do yes, I've played mmo titles for a long long time and I've played a lot of them.

New content to a game is what keeps the majority of people around, if this was not the case Square would of not updated XI for the last 13 years. They would not be updating XIV now, it's the life blood. I also have very little faith in players words, some of the strongest defenders of XI that I knew (that would play it till they took the servers offline), no longer play. Words are cheap.

Also as I said, there are a handful of XIV players how post here that have not played XI for a long long time. It's incredibly obvious who those are here.

Hey me too!^^

But be that as it may, as if most people don't know this. The people who flock to a new update leave a month later after they've done it, every MMO has this issue.... But assuming the game lives, these people aren't our target. We're (as in us and SE) not interested in the "majority" anymore. There's no way SE can pull them back to FFXI, esp after XIV, which is where they are. Not without spending tens of millions creating the game AS IS, in FFXIV's engine and borrowing suitable graphics assets that XIV already uses, and porting it all to the PC code base and putting it on the PS4 as well, and resume expanding our beloved world of Vana'diel, will SE get the "majority" to consider FFXI again.

We're after holding onto the dedicated players. Which don't entirely need new content like Vagary all the time or this game would be a lot more empty.
What the game has, and what bits they'll be able to add after major content ends in november will hold over a fair portion, probably enough of the games playerbase for the next few years. Maybe someday the game will sunset, but I doubt it will be anytime soon. People still play MMO's with far more outdated graphics and engines that are far older then FFXI with enough to support the games functions, and SE has said it takes little to run FFXI.

Yes some peoples words are cheap. But you can't consider just their words.
Most of the players who love FFXI most, who grew up with it, aren't teens with ample free time anymore. There's not enough time in the world for every player to be able to tend to life and play games. Some people have life sudden life changes (Me and my partner for example, just decided yesterday, we're moving in the spring (perhaps sooner) to the far side of the country), or other events that may require them to leave the game: jobs, schooling, deaths in the family, travel for any of those, having kids, all this happens in our limited awake hours.

This is not a judgement against them, but a testament to life, but I would bet money, they will never forget FFXI (Nor will I), and a fair bit would return if they could.
The old saying always was: You'll return to Vana'diel^^

[Sonicblue]

Ffxi was my 1st mmo but I stop playing when the lvl cap went to 99 and have not played since I play ffxiv right now it's a fun game. The things I miss from ffxi is old school stuff like sky sea limbus etc. it seems ffxiv is getting something like sky in the next update hope it is good tho

[Draylo-]

Ffxi was my 1st mmo but I stop playing when the lvl cap went to 99 and have not played since I play ffxiv right now it's a fun game. The things I miss from ffxi is old school stuff like sky sea limbus etc. it seems ffxiv is getting something like sky in the next update hope it is good tho

All those that you listed are already in the game in some variation lol... Sky and Sea are similar to Escha, Abyssea. Limbus is similar to skirmish, Walk of Echoes, etc.

[peculiar]

Ffxi was my 1st mmo but I stop playing when the lvl cap went to 99 and have not played since I play ffxiv right now it's a fun game. The things I miss from ffxi is old school stuff like sky sea limbus etc. it seems ffxiv is getting something like sky in the next update hope it is good tho

Just a heads-up, FFXIV is far too stuck in the wow theme park system to ever add anything you would find in old FFXI.

So if you are waiting for FFXI type content akin to sea/sky to find its way into FFXIV, well... have a nice long wait.

Also out of curiosity, why did you quit FFXI at specifically at 99? I recently asked my friend this (who now plays XIV) and I laughed at the answer he gave me, curious what yours will be.

[Draylo-]

cuz it ruined all my precious gear I got, we should still be killing byakko and pants should be best in slot for 20 more years!!! Ya know, even though gear is outdated every major patch in XIV. Most people play it for the graphics lol.

[pretre]

me and most of my ls that's been together for 8 years are just running out the clock to November, we lost interest in any kind of grind or farm the second they announced the plan. we just want to get to November for closure on this awesome game that's been a big part of our life, I see it as I finally completed ffxi.
honestly I think the second the November update is out the player base will start to drop off and when they drop consoles the game will be closed down pretty fast. just my opinion

[Olor]

I think there will be servers running for at least 2 more years, but there needs to be a merge after November.